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A93887 Zerubbabel to Sanballat and Tobiah: or, The first part of the duply to M.S. alias Two brethren. By Adam Steuart. Whereunto is added, the judgement of the reformed churches of France, Switzerland, Geneva, &c. concerning independants, who condemne them with an unanimous consent. Published by David Steuart. March 17. 1644. Imprimatur Ja: Cranford.; Duply to M.S. alias Two brethren. Part 1 Steuart, Adam.; Steuart, David, fl. 1644. 1645 (1645) Wing S5494; Thomason E274_14; ESTC R209896 100,836 110

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till_o page_n the_o 6._o sect_n 3._o it_o shall_v be_v a_o swer_v in_o a_o particular_a question_n p._n 4._o sect._n 2._o a.s._n his_o observation_n be_v like_o a_o man_n with_o a_o pole-ax_n knock_v a_o man_n on_o the_o head_n to_o kill_v a_o fly_n light_v on_o his_o herd_n answ_n what_o this_o man_n mean_v by_o his_o pole-axe_n i_o know_v not_o i_o strike_v at_o no_o man_n head_n if_o i_o strike_v at_o any_o fly_n it_o must_v be_v some_o wasp_n and_o then_o either_o a_o hornet_n that_o sting_v to_o death_n the_o horse_n of_o who_o dung_n it_o be_v breed_v or_o a_o wasp_n with_o which_o tertullian_n not_o unfit_o compare_v sectary_n faciunt_fw-la favos_fw-la vespae_fw-la faciunt_fw-la &_o ecclesias_fw-la marcionite_n quid_fw-la ni_fw-fr &_o donatista_n p._n 6._o sect._n 3_o he_o propound_v himself_o for_o a_o pattern_n to_o i_o in_o writing_n but_o he_o must_v excuse_v i_o if_o i_o tell_v he_o plain_o i_o hold_v he_o not_o worthy_a the_o imitate_v neither_o may_v i_o ever_o so_o much_o reverence_v any_o of_o his_o party_n as_o to_o quit_v my_o christian_a liberty_n to_o refute_v their_o extravagancy_n where_o ever_o i_o meet_v with_o they_o especial_o when_o they_o appear_v to_o be_v of_o so_o pernicious_a a_o consequence_n as_o for_o the_o title_n of_o most_o revenend_n that_o i_o give_v they_o i_o learn_v it_o in_o part_n of_o themselves_o that_o they_o be_v reverend_a and_o since_o their_o reverence_n be_v independent_a what_o else_o can_v i_o take_v it_o for_o but_o most_o reverend_a that_o acknowledge_v no_o superior_a reverence_n sect._n 5._o howsoever_o of_o his_o liberality_n he_o bestow_v the_o lie_n on_o i_o i_o must_v pray_v he_o permit_v i_o to_o return_v it_o home_o again_o for_o what_o i_o say_v before_o by_o his_o good_a leave_n i_o must_v say_v again_o it_o be_v most_o true_a that_o in_o your_o particular_a opinion_n you_o differ_v from_o all_o true_a reform_a church_n at_o least_o so_o far_o forth_o as_o they_o be_v distinguish_v from_o conventicle_n and_o schismatical_a assembly_n and_o as_o for_o your_o reform_a church_n in_o england_n viz._n independent_a from_o which_o you_o differ_v not_o 1._o they_o be_v invisible_a 2._o they_o be_v schismatical_a 3._o and_o erect_v without_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n consent_v and_o such_o church_n yourselves_o hold_v unlawful_a turbulent_a schismatical_a and_o punishable_a in_o n.e._n and_o if_o in_o n.e._n wherefore_o i_o pray_v not_o in_o old_a england_n also_o sect._n 6._o and_o as_o for_o that_o his_o conjecture_n that_o i_o will_v object_v some_o manuscript_n and_o master_n parker_n letter_n from_o n.e._n and_o another_o from_o zealand_n it_o be_v his_o mistake_n for_o it_o be_v not_o my_o intention_n to_o dispute_v in_o a_o liminary_a epistle_n only_o i_o say_v of_o master_n parker_n since_o he_o put_v i_o upon_o this_o subject_n that_o if_o he_o be_v at_o his_o liberty_n in_o o.e._n as_o he_o be_v in_o servitude_n under_o that_o oppression_n of_o n.e._n he_o may_v happy_o say_v more_o than_o he_o will_v be_v allow_v to_o say_v there_o p._n 7._o sect._n 1_o it_o be_v also_o a_o great_a mistake_n in_o he_o to_o think_v that_o their_o discipline_n can_v be_v abuse_v to_o ill_a it_o can_v be_v abuse_v but_o to_o good_a p._n 8_o sect._n 1_o it_o be_v a_o abominable_a accusation_n and_o a_o black_a calumny_n that_o he_o lay_v upon_o the_o reform_a church_n of_o zealand_n viz._n that_o there_o be_v in_o their_o letter_n many_o high_a passage_n seem_v so_o prejudicial_a to_o our_o worthy_a magistracy_n that_o it_o justifi_v that_o of_o the_o apology_n 2._o for_o that_o letter_n speak_v not_o at_o all_o of_o the_o magistrate_n or_o magistracy_n of_o england_n 2._o it_o speak_v only_o of_o their_o own_o whereof_o this_o little_a independent_a minister_n be_v too_o bold_a to_o think_v himself_o a_o competent_a judge_n neither_o will_v they_o depend_v of_o he_o howbeit_o he_o shall_v a_o spire_n to_o be_v as_o independent_a as_o lucifer_n himself_o 3._o 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desire_v to_o confer_v with_o you_o if_o i_o may_v know_v who_o you_o be_v you_o shall_v herein_o do_v i_o a_o singular_a pleasure_n to_o teach_v i_o better_o which_o if_o you_o do_v not_o or_o make_v i_o know_v who_o you_o be_v i_o can_v think_v this_o counsel_n to_o be_v give_v in_o sincerity_n whereas_o i_o say_v you_o sue_v for_o a_o toleration_n and_o consequent_o for_o a_o separation_n it_o be_v most_o true_a in_o the_o sense_n that_o i_o take_v a_o separation_n viz._n for_o a_o separation_n from_o our_o discipline_n and_o sacramental_a communion_n as_o i_o have_v full_o prove_v in_o this_o my_o book_n whereunto_o all_o the_o independent_a church_n in_o the_o world_n can_v answer_v for_o if_o you_o be_v not_o separate_v from_o we_o but_o entertain_v union_n and_o communion_n with_o we_o what_o need_v you_o more_o a_o toleration_n rather_o than_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o member_n of_o our_o church_n p._n 18._o sect._n 3_o what_o i_o say_v of_o your_o undervalue_v the_o parliament_n 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of_o this_o parliament_n and_o their_o affection_n towards_o they_o unless_o they_o judge_v you_o to_o be_v liar_n well_o m.s._n and_o c.c._n you_o speak_v both_o bold_o and_o saucy_o of_o the_o parliament_n and_o as_o if_o all_o this_o yet_o be_v not_o enough_o thou_o m.s._n to_o be_v sure_a to_o outrun_v c.c._n tell_v we_o that_o the_o name_n of_o stuart_n in_o four_o man_n have_v be_v fatal_a to_o england_n and_o scotland_n viz._n in_o king_n james_n king_n charles_n doctor_n stuart_n the_o divine_a and_o in_o adam_n stuart_n here_o pag._n 22._o sect._n 3_o harebrained_n fellow_n that_o thou_o be_v what_o have_v king_n james_n king_n charles_n or_o doctor_n stuart_n to_o do_v with_o this_o dispute_n can_v thou_o not_o dispute_v calm_o with_o i_o unless_o thou_o be_v snarl_v and_o bite_a like_o a_o mad_a dog_n at_o every_o one_o that_o stand_v necre_n thou_o at_o king_n parliament_z and_o all_o the_o best_a reform_a orthodox_n church_n of_o the_o christian_a world_n i_o will_v not_o cast_v horoscope_n or_o consult_v astrologue_n and_o deviner_n as_o thou_o do_v but_o if_o the_o law_n of_o the_o kingdom_n be_v consult_v god_n know_v what_o a_o sad_a account_n thou_o may_v ere_o long_o be_v call_v unto_o for_o such_o wild_a expression_n p._n 19_o sect._n 1_o i_o be_o sorry_a that_o you_o vaunt_v yourself_o that_o the_o parliament_n resolve_v with_o a_o general_a acclamation_n that_o your_o apology_n shall_v be_v leave_v unblamed_a and_o that_o you_o threaten_v so_o many_o sorrow_n that_o shall_v have_v befall_v the_o church_n if_o it_o have_v be_v condemn_v if_o it_o be_v so_o it_o be_v a_o pity_n but_o they_o shall_v make_v great_a acclamation_n to_o so_o great_a and_o mighty_a independent_a minister_n that_o think_v none_o of_o they_o so_o much_o as_o worthy_a to_o communicate_v with_o their_o church_n but_o will_v that_o they_o depend_v upon_o they_o but_o i_o believe_v that_o this_o be_v like_a to_o the_o rest_n of_o your_o vain_a bragging_n all_o that_o thou_o say_v p._n 19_o sect._n 3._o they_o be_v but_o mere_a calumny_n it_o be_v not_o i_o but_o the_o independent_o themselves_o who_o sow_v the_o seed_n of_o division_n betwixt_o themselves_o on_o the_o one_o part_n and_o the_o parliament_n here_o the_o scot_n and_o all_o protestant_a church_n on_o the_o other_o only_o i_o declare_v what_o they_o be_v and_o i_o be_o glad_a if_o any_o of_o they_o have_v the_o grace_n to_o blush_v or_o be_v ashamed_a of_o it_o nam_fw-la pudor_fw-la est_fw-la virtutis_fw-la colour_n and_o so_o i_o answer_v thou_o in_o thy_o own_o word_n nec_fw-la oleum_fw-la nec_fw-la operam_fw-la perdo_fw-la those_o 6._o thing_n proverb_n 6.16_o belong_v not_o to_o i_o but_o to_o thyself_o and_o as_o other_o say_v they_o be_v the_o very_a essential_a note_n of_o your_o independent_a church_n thou_o tell_v also_o thereabout_a that_o thou_o divine_a i_o wish_v rather_o thou_o be_v a_o sound_n divine_a than_o a_o divine_a to_o what_o thou_o say_v p._n 20._o sect._n 1_o because_o i_o have_v find_v thou_o and_o those_o who_o write_v against_o i_o such_o notorious_a liar_n i_o must_v tell_v thou_o i_o can_v believe_v thou_o be_v my_o adversary_n and_o i_o believe_v that_o no_o man_n will_v believe_v thou_o till_o that_o they_o have_v it_o from_o a_o better_a hand_n ibid._n your_o minister_n who_o preach_v we_o a_o tale_n begin_v with_o in_o the_o name_n of_o god_n and_o end_v with_o a_o goose_n seem_v to_o have_v be_v some_o independent_a minister_n like_v yourself_o happy_o your_o worthy_a self_n for_o that_o you_o take_v so_o great_a pleasure_n to_o fill_v up_o your_o book_n with_o so_o worshipful_a authority_n sect._n 2._o the_o nickname_n you_o take_v on_o you_o not_o to_o know_v they_o be_v 1._o calvinian_o apolog._n nar._n p._n 20._o 2._o bishop_n which_o you_o yourselves_o pin_n upon_o our_o minister_n p._n 9_o 3._o a_o idol_n that_o must_v be_v grind_v to_o powder_v etc._n etc._n what_o ever_o you_o say_v pag._n 20._o sect_n 4._o i_o maintain_v that_o 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