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A70986 A choice narrative of Count Gondamor's transactions during his embassy in England by that renowned antiquary, Sir Robert Cotton, knight and baronet ; exposed to publick light, for the benefit of the whole nation by a person of honour.; Vox populi Scott, Thomas, 1580?-1626.; Rowland, John, 1606-1660.; Cotton, Robert, Sir, 1571-1631. 1659 (1659) Wing S2083; ESTC R10208 19,163 38

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the Duke of Villa Hermosa President of the Council of Aragon fed his humour by the discharge of his own discontentment upon occasion of the Duke of Lerma his absence and beckned Signior Gondomor to him using this speech in the hea●ing of the Nuncio after a sporting manner how unhappy are the people where you have been first for their souls being Hereticks then for their estates where the name of a Favourite is so familiar how happy is our state where the Keyes of life and death are so easily come by pointing at the Nuncio hanging at every Religious girdle and where the doors of Justice and Mercy stand equally open to all men without respect of persons The Embassadour knew his Ironical stroak to be intended only as a by-blow at the Nuncio but fully at the Duke of Lerma whose greatness begun now to wax heavy toward declension and therefore he returneth this answer Your Excellency knoweth the estate is happy where wise Favourites govern Kings if the Kings themselves be foolish or where wise Kings are who having Favourites either foolish or the wiser sort will not yet be governed by them The State of England howsoever you hear of it in Spain or Rome is too happy in the last kind they need not care what the Favourite be though for the most part he prevent all kind of suspition in that kind being chosen rather as a Schollar to be taught and trained up then as a Tutor to teach Of this they are sure no Prince exceeds theirs in personal abilities so that nothing could be added to him in my wish but this one that he were our vassal and a Catholick With that the noise without gave notice of the Duke of Lerma's entrance at whose first approach the whole house arose though some later then other as envy had hung Plummets on them to keep them down the Nuncio only sate unmoved the Duke cherished the observance of the rest with a familiar kind of carriage too high for curtesie as not neglecting their demeanors but expecting it and after a filial obeysance to the Pope his Nuncio sate down as President under the cloth of Estate but somewhat lower then after a space given for admiration preparation and attention he began to speak in this manner The King my Master holding it more honor to do then to discourse to take from you the expectation of Oratory used rather in Pulpits and Schools then in Councils hath appointed me President in this holy wise learned and noble assembly a man naturally of a slow speech and not desirous to quicken it by Art or Industry as holding action only proper to a Spaniard as I am by birth to a Souldier as I am by profession to a King as I am by representation take this therefore briefly for declaration both of the cause of this meeting and my Master his further pleasure There hath been in all times since the worlds foundation one chief Commander or Monarch upon the earth this needs no further proof then a back looking into our own memories and Histories of the world neither now is there any question except with Infidels and Hereticks of their own chief Commander in Spirituals in the unity of whose person the members of the visible Church are included But there is some doubt of the chief Commander in Temporals who as the Moon to the Sun might govern by night as this by day and by the Sword of Justice compel to come in or cut off such as infringe the authority of the Keys This hath been so well understood long since by the infallible Chair as that thereby upon the declension of the Roman Empire and the increase of Romes Spiritual splendor who thought it unnatural that their Sun should be sublunary our Nation was by the Bishop of Rome selected before other People to conquer rule the Nations with a rod of Iron And our King to that end adorned with the Title of Catholick King as a name above all names under the Sun which is under Gods Vicar General himself the Catholick Bishop of souls to instance this point by comparison look first upon the grand Signior the great Turk who hath a large Title but not universal for besides that he is an Infidel his command is confined within his own Territories and he stiled not Emperour of the World but of the Turk and their Vassals only Amongst Christians the Defender of the Faith was a glorious Stile whilst the King to whom it was given by his Holiness continued worthy of it but he stood not in the Truth neither yet those that succeed him beside it was no great thing to be called what every Christian ought to be Defender of the Faith no more then to be stiled with France the most Christian King wherein he hath the greatest part of his Title common with most Christians the Emperour of Rome Russia Germany extend not their limits further than their stiles which are local only my Master the most Catholick King is for dominion of bodies as the universal Bishop for dominion of souls over that part of the World which we call America except where the English intruders usurp and the greatest part of Europe with some part of Asia and Africa by actual possession and over all the rest by real and indubitable right yet acknowledgeth this right to be derived from the free and Fatherly donation of his Holiness who as the Sun to the Moon lends lustre by reflection to this Kingdome to this King to this King of Kings my Master what therefore he hath howsoever gotten he may keep and hold what he can get from any other King or Commander by any Stratagem of War or pretence of Peace he may take for it is theirs only by usurpation except they held of him from whom all civil power is derived as ecclesiastical from his Holiness what the Ignorant call Treason if it be on his behalf is truth and what they call Truth if it be against him is Treason and thus all our Peace or War our Treatises Marriages and whatsoever intendment else of ours aims at this principal end to get the whole possession of the World and to reduce all to unity under one temporal Head that our King may truly be what he is stiled the Catholick Universal King as Faith is therefore universal the Church is universal yet so as it is under one Head the Pope whose seat is and must necessarily be at Rome where Saint Peter sate So must all men be Subject to our and their Catholick King whose particular seat is here in Spaine his universal every where This point of State or rather of Faith we see the Catholick Roman Religion hath taught every where and almost made natural so that by a Key of Gold by intelligence or by way of confession my Master is able to unlock the secrets of every Prince and to withdraw their subjects allegiance as if they knew themselves rather my Master his