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A80157 Provocator provocatus. Or, An answer made to an open challenge made by one M. Boatman in Peters Parish in Norwich, the 13th of December, 1654. in a sermon preached there at a fast, in which answer these questions are spoke to. 1. Whether juridicall suspension of some persons from the Lords Supper be deducible from Scripture; the affirmative is proved. : 2. Whether ministeriall or privative suspension be justifiable; the affirmative also is maintained. : 3. Whether the suspension of the ignorant and scandalous be a pharisaicall invention; a thing which wiser ages never thought of, as Mr Boatman falsly affirmed. In opposition to which is proved, that it hath been the judgment and practice of the eminent saints and servants of Christ, in all ages, of all other reformed churches in all times ... / By John Collings ... Collinges, John, 1623-1690.; Boatman, Mr. 1654 (1654) Wing C5329A; ESTC R232871 174,209 280

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good_a ground_n suppose_v that_o the_o canon_n be_v make_v long_o after_o and_o that_o dionysius_n live_v long_o after_o but_o yet_o their_o writing_n be_v all_o the_o record_n can_v be_v pretend_v let_v we_o examine_v what_o they_o say_v for_o clement_n two_o epistle_n i_o want_v they_o and_o can_v examine_v what_o they_o say_v in_o the_o pretend_a canon_n of_o the_o apostle_n i_o find_v it_o sufficient_o prove_v canon_n 130._o if_o any_o clergy_n man_n 13._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d canon_n apost_n canon_n 13._o or_o lay_v man_n excommunicate_v or_o suspend_v go_v to_o any_o other_o city_n and_o be_v receive_v into_o communion_n there_o let_v he_o that_o receive_v he_o and_o he_o who_o be_v receive_v be_v both_o excommunicate_v here_o be_v plain_o suspension_n distinct_a from_o excommunication_n assert_v there_o be_v some_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o well_o as_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o the_o pretend_a areopagite_n i_o see_v reason_n enough_o to_o believe_v he_o live_v not_o in_o this_o century_n but_o admit_v he_o do_v and_o he_o speak_v plain_a enough_o here_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o catecumeni_n and_o the_o poenitent_o 141._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d dion_n areop_n cap._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ex_fw-la edit_fw-la morellii_fw-la octavo_fw-la 1562._o p._n 141._o and_o energumeni_fw-la be_v exclude_v from_o the_o lord_n supper_n which_o he_o tell_v we_o be_v administer_v to_o none_o but_o those_o who_o have_v perfect_a eye_n to_o discern_v the_o lord_n body_n etc._n etc._n this_o be_v sufficient_a but_o this_o be_v not_o all_o for_o present_o after_o he_o subjoin_v that_o if_o penitent_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v admit_v much_o less_o ought_v profane_v person_n who_o live_v in_o lust_n and_o testify_v no_o repentance_n who_o he_o say_v shall_v be_v admit_v to_o no_o other_o ordinance_n but_o the_o preach_n of_o the_o word_n i_o will_v transcribe_v the_o place_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 144._o ibid_fw-la p._n 144._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d all_o this_o quotation_n be_v so_o full_a to_o show_v what_o person_n in_o the_o primitive_a church_n be_v suspend_v yet_o not_o excommunicate_v though_o it_o be_v something_o too_o large_a yet_o i_o have_v transcribe_v it_o all_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n i_o have_v be_v willing_a to_o transcribe_v this_o passage_n full_o because_o it_o speak_v so_o full_o to_o our_o case_n dionysius_n in_o this_o chapter_n do_v profess_o treat_v concern_v the_o lord_n supper_n and_o here_o concern_v the_o order_n of_o administer_a in_o the_o first_o place_n he_o tell_v we_o some_o be_v put_v away_o or_o go_v away_o 2._o then_o the_o administration_n proceed_v now_o who_o be_v they_o who_o be_v enjoin_v to_o go_v away_o he_o reckon_v several_a sort_n 1._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d those_o who_o be_v yet_o not_o make_v complete_a member_n of_o the_o church_n that_o have_v never_o yet_o be_v initiate_v in_o those_o holy_a mystery_n doubtless_o by_o these_o he_o mean_v the_o catechumeni_fw-la such_o as_o god_n have_v begin_v to_o work_v upon_o and_o they_o have_v evidence_v some_o good_a affection_n to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o gospel_n but_o have_v not_o yet_o sufficient_a knowledge_n to_o fit_v they_o for_o either_o sacrament_n and_o this_o be_v conform_v to_o what_o renatus_n laurentius_n de_fw-fr la_fw-fr far_o 4._o in_o lib._n 4._o in_o his_o annotation_n on_o tertullian_n marc._n tert._n advers._fw-la marc._n tell_v we_o this_o order_n of_o convert_v be_v likewise_o by_o tertullian_n and_o cyprian_n etc._n etc._n call_v audientes_fw-la &_o auditores_fw-la and_o they_o have_v a_o particular_a teacher_n eusebius_n tell_v we_o pantaenus_n be_v their_o first_o teacher_n 3._o euseb_n l._n 5_o l._n 6._o cap._n 3._o than_o clemens_n alexand._n afterward_o demetrius_n make_v origen_n their_o
orthodox_n synod_n that_o ever_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n can_v glory_v in_o here_o be_v 318_o of_o the_o most_o eminent_a servant_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o work_n of_o the_o gospel_n which_o the_o world_n then_o afford_v these_o all_o determine_v that_o such_o sinner_n as_o be_v scandalous_a though_o they_o have_v sin_v through_o temptation_n for_o fear_n of_o their_o life_n or_o estate_n worship_v idol_n i_o suppose_v they_o mean_v though_o they_o do_v profess_v repentance_n yet_o they_o shall_v give_v three_o year_n proof_n of_o it_o before_o they_o shall_v have_v any_o communion_n with_o the_o church_n if_o in_o this_o time_n they_o be_v find_v not_o to_o contradict_v their_o profession_n they_o be_v admit_v to_o some_o communion_n but_o no_o otherwise_o than_o penitent_n for_o seven_o year_n more_o after_o these_o ten_o year_n they_o must_v have_v no_o near_o communion_n than_o in_o prayer_n for_o two_o year_n long_o here_o be_v a_o suspension_n of_o ten_o year_n for_o scandalous_a sin_n distinct_a from_o excommunication_n be_v all_o these_o dreamer_n think_v we_o for_o the_o length_n of_o time_n i_o do_v not_o justify_v they_o nor_o can_v i_o altogether_o condemn_v they_o consider_v the_o juncture_n of_o time_n and_o state_n of_o the_o church_n then_o in_o this_o century_n they_o say_v be_v concilium_fw-la neocaesariense_n if_o it_o be_v so_o and_o we_o have_v a_o true_a account_n of_o their_o act_n in_o their_o second_o canon_n they_o decree_v that_o if_o a_o woman_n marry_v two_o brother_n she_o shall_v be_v reject_v to_o her_o death_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d yet_o it_o be_v plain_a she_o be_v not_o excommunicate_v so_o long_o for_o in_o the_o same_o canon_n they_o determine_v she_o may_v have_v the_o sacrament_n give_v she_o in_o her_o die_a hour_n in_o the_o same_o century_n be_v concilium_fw-la gangrense_n who_o in_o the_o preface_n to_o their_o act_n do_v plain_o distinguish_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d one_o who_o be_v deny_v communion_n with_o the_o church_n and_o one_o who_o be_v quite_o separate_v from_o it_o what_o the_o council_n of_o arles_n determine_v in_o the_o same_o century_n be_v plain_a the_o first_o council_n of_o arles_n can._n 11._o can._n 12._o can._n 23._o plain_o establish_v suspension_n distinct_a from_o excommunication_n the_o second_o council_n of_o arles_n 〈◊〉_d caranza_n p._n 55._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o same_o century_n determine_v the_o suspension_n of_o such_o from_o the_o lord_n supper_n for_o five_o year_n as_o have_v through_o fear_n in_o time_n of_o persecution_n sacrifice_v to_o idol_n see_v also_o canon_n 20_o 25._o concilium_fw-la elebertinum_fw-la in_o which_o caranza_n say_v be_v nineteen_o bishop_n do_v plain_o distinguish_v betwixt_o some_o sinner_n to_o who_o the_o sacrament_n at_o death_n shall_v be_v deny_v and_o other_o who_o shall_v be_v suspend_v from_o it_o but_o yet_o may_v have_v it_o at_o their_o death_n desire_v it_o which_o if_o they_o be_v excommunicate_v they_o can_v not_o v._o can._n 1_o 2_o 3_o 14_o 21_o 31_o 40_o etc._n etc._n for_o particular_a man_n in_o this_o century_n the_o opinion_n of_o basil_n 17._o aaron_n rod_n l._n 3._o c._n 17._o thaumaturgus_n chrys●stome_n ambrose_n augustine_n be_v evident_a in_o their_o several_a work_n basil_n be_v enough_o for_o all_o in_o his_o canonical_a epistle_n ad_fw-la amphilochium_n see_v canon_n 34_o 38_o 44_o 56_o 57_o 58_o 59_o for_o murder_n he_o determine_v twenty_o year_n suspension_n can._n 36._o for_o manslaughter_n eleven_o year_n can._n 57_o for_o adultery_n fifteen_o can._n 58._o for_o fornication_n eight_o year_n can_v 59_o for_o theft_n though_o the_o thief_n first_o accuse_v himself_o one_o year_n can._n 61._o for_o perjury_n eleven_o year_n can._n 64._o but_o if_o they_o before_o give_v good_a evidence_n of_o their_o repentance_n and_o change_n they_o be_v to_o be_v admit_v soon_o can._n 74._o it_o be_v a_o easy_a but_o tedious_a work_n to_o show_v that_o this_o be_v the_o judgement_n of_o the_o succeed_a council_n and_o father_n but_o if_o we_o can_v not_o these_o be_v the_o most_o pure_a and_o incorrupted_a time_n of_o the_o church_n and_o sure_o the_o servant_n of_o god_n be_v not_o all_o this_o time_n in_o a_o dream_n for_o the_o time_n of_o antichrist_n prevail_v betwixt_o the_o time_n of_o the_o pure_a church_n and_o the_o beginning_n of_o reformation_n by_o luther_n and_o calvin_n we_o shall_v easy_o know_v what_o be_v the_o general_a opinion_n by_o the_o schoolman_n and_o by_o their_o decretall_n and_o council_n the_o schoolman_n most_o of_o they_o handle_v this_o question_n an_fw-mi peccatori_fw-la hoc_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la petenti_fw-la sacerdos_n denegare_fw-la debeat_fw-la whether_o if_o a_o sinner_n desire_v the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n the_o priest_n ought_v to_o deny_v it_o he_o they_o general_o distinguish_v betwixt_o a_o secret_a sinner_n and_o a_o public_a and_o notorious_a sinner_n and_o betwixt_o his_o desire_v it_o in_o private_a and_o in_o public_a ibid._n vasq_fw-la in_o tert_n par_fw-fr thom._n t._n 3._o q._n 80_o disp_n 209._o cap._n 2._o in_o quâ_fw-la re_fw-la scholastici_fw-la omnes_fw-la ut_fw-la dixi_fw-la constant_a affirmant_n publico_fw-la peccatori_fw-la nimirum_fw-la de_fw-la quo_fw-la non_fw-la constat_fw-la ad_fw-la meliorem_fw-la frugem_fw-la fuisse_fw-la conversum_fw-la publicae_fw-la etiam_fw-la eucharistiam_fw-la denegandam_fw-la esse_fw-la ibid._n 1._o they_o all_o general_o determine_v that_o if_o the_o sinner_n be_v a_o manifest_a open_a sinner_n the_o priest_n ought_v to_o deny_v it_o to_o he_o though_o not_o excommunicate_v which_o be_v enough_o for_o to_o prove_v suspension_n distinct_a from_o excommunication_n they_o be_v not_o so_o well_o agree_v in_o determine_v who_o shall_v be_v account_v public_a notorious_a sinner_n nor_o whether_o the_o priest_n may_v not_o in_o some_o case_n deny_v the_o lord_n supper_n to_o occulto_fw-la peccatori_fw-la gabriel_n vasquez_n assure_v i_o that_o all_o the_o schoolman_n do_v agree_v that_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v to_o be_v deny_v to_o a_o open_a sinner_n of_o who_o repentance_n there_o be_v no_o evidence_n i_o say_v before_o they_o be_v not_o so_o well_o agree_v who_o shall_v be_v judge_v a_o scandalous_a sinner_n adrianus_n in_o his_o question_n the_o eucharistia_n say_v he_o be_v a_o public_a scandalous_a sinner_n if_o his_o sin_n be_v know_v to_o ten_o person_n sylvester_n and_o navarrus_n think_v enough_o if_o it_o be_v know_v to_o six_o dominicus_n sotus_n and_o vasquez_n think_v that_o suspicion_n be_v not_o enough_o but_o the_o party_n must_v appear_v scandalous_a either_o 1._o per_fw-la sententiam_fw-la he_o be_v declare_v so_o by_o the_o judge_n or_o 2._o per_fw-la confessionem_fw-la ab_fw-la ipso_fw-la in_o judicio_fw-la or_o by_o his_o own_o confession_n in_o court_n or_o 3._o per_fw-la rei_fw-la evidentiam_fw-la when_o the_o thing_n be_v evident_a and_o can_v be_v deny_v but_o though_o they_o disagree_v here_o yet_o they_o plain_o enough_o agree_v as_o to_o the_o grant_v a_o suspension_n distinct_a from_o excommunication_n now_o that_o this_o be_v the_o concurrent_a opinion_n of_o the_o schoolman_n 8._o bonavent_n in_o l._n 4_o scent_n do_v 9_o art_n 2._o q._n 4._o duran_n in_o scent_n do_v 9_o q_o 5._o etius_n in_o l._n 4._o scent_n do_v 9_o sect_n 4._o vasq_fw-la in_o 3._o p._n tho._n l._n 3_o q._n 8._o art_n 6._o alex_n halen_n in_o 4._o p._n sum_n q._n 11._o art_n 3._o aquin._n sum_n 3._o p._n q_o 80._o art_n 6._o becan_n in_o sum_n scholast_n thcol._n p_o 3_o c._n 5._o q_o 8._o i_o shall_v prove_v by_o refer_v the_o reader_n to_o those_o place_n in_o bonaventure_n aquinas_n durandus_fw-la becanus_n halensis_n estius_n vasquez_n where_o they_o profess_o handle_v the_o question_n and_o give_v argument_n for_o it_o vasquez_n as_o i_o say_v before_o tell_v i_o it_o be_v the_o unanimous_a vote_n of_o all_o his_o brethren_n of_o the_o school_n i_o be_o sure_a it_o be_v the_o determination_n of_o all_o these_o which_o prove_v it_o the_o opinion_n of_o the_o schoolman_n in_o all_o age_n bonaventure_n aquinas_n and_o durandus_fw-la be_v all_o betwixt_o 1250._o and_o 1300._o vasquez_n say_v helvicus_n die_v 1604._o and_o estius_n die_v 1613._o as_o may_v be_v see_v in_o the_o account_n of_o his_o life_n and_o write_n prefix_v to_o his_o commentary_n on_o the_o epistle_n if_o suspension_n distinct_a from_o excommunication_n be_v a_o dream_n these_o be_v some_o of_o the_o learned_a dreamer_n it_o remain_v that_o we_o examine_v the_o judgement_n of_o other_o and_o it_o be_v no_o great_a matter_n to_o who_o we_o turn_v let_v they_o be_v papist_n lutheran_n or_o calvinist_n we_o shall_v find_v they_o all_o in_o this_o point_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o for_o papist_n i_o shall_v not_o trouble_v my_o reader_n with_o quotation_n out_o of_o they_o though_o it_o be_v a_o very_a facile_a thing_n to_o
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