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A11806 Vox populi, or Newes from Spayne translated according to the Spanish coppie ; which may serve to forwarn both England and the Vnited Provinces how farre to trust to Spanish pretences. Scott, Thomas. 1620 (1620) STC 22100.2; ESTC S100489 19,312 28

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chaire as that thereby upon declension of the Romane Emperours and the increase of Romes spirituall splendor who thought it unnaturall that their sun should be sublunary our nation was by the Bishop of Rome selected before other peoples to conquer and rule the nations with a rod of Iron and our Kings to that end adorned with the title of Catholike King as a name above all names under the sunne which is under Gods Vicar generall himself the Catholike Bishop of soules To instance this point by comparison looke first upon the grand Seigneur the great Turk who hath a large title but not universall For besides that he is an infidel his command is confined within his owne territories and he styled not Emperour of the world but of the Turks and their vassals onely Among Christians the defender of the faith was a glorious stile whilst the King to whom it was given by his holynes continued worthy of it But he stood not in the trueth neither yet those that succeed him And beside it was no great thing to be called what every Christiā ought to be defender of the faith no more then to be stiled with France the most Christian King wherein he hath the greatest part of his title commō with most Christians The Emperour of Russia Rome Germany extend not their limits further then their stiles which are locall onely my master the most Catholike King is for dominion of bodies as the universall Bishop for dominiō of soules ouer all that part of the world which we call America except where the English intruders usurp and the greatest part of Europe with some part of Asia and Africa by actual possessiō over al the rest by real indubitable right yet acknowledgeth this right to be derived frō the free and fatherly donation of his holynes who as the sun to this moone lends luster by reflection to this Kingdō to this King to this King of Kings my master what therefore he hath howsoever gottē he may keep and hold What he can get from any other King or Cōmander by any stratageme of war or pretence of peace he may take for it is theirs onely by usurpation except they hold of him from whom all civill power is derived as ecclesiasticall from his holynes What the ignorant call treasō if it be on this behalf is truth and what they call truth if it be against him is treason thus all our peace our warre our treatises mariages and whatsoever intendement els of ours aimes at this principall end to get the whole possession of the world to reduce all to unitie under one temporall head that our King may truely be what he is stiled the catholicke universal King As faith is therfore universal the Church universall yet so as it is under one head the Pope whose seate is must necessarily be at Rome where S. Peter sate so must all men be subject to our and their Catholique King whose particular seat is here in Spayne his universall euery where this point of State or rather of faith we see the Romane Catholike religion hath taught every where and almost made naturall so that by a key of gold by intelligence or by way of confession my master is able to unlock the secrets of every Prince and to withdraw their subjects allegiance as if they knewe themselves rather my master his subjects in truth then theirs whom their birthes have taught to miscall Soveraigns We see this in France and in England especially where at once they learne to obey the Church of Rome as their mother to acknowledge the catholique King as their father and to hate their owne King as an heretique and an usurper So we see religion and the state are coupled together laugh and weep flourish fade and participate of eithers fortune as growing upon one stock of policy I speake this the more boldly in this presence because I speake here before none but native persons who are partakers both in themselves and issues of these triumphs aboue all those of ancient Rome therefore such as besides their oathes it concernes to be secret Neyther need we restrain this freedome of speach from the Nuntio his presence because that besides that he is a Spaniard by birth he is also a Iesuite by profession an order raised by the providence of Gods Vicar to accomplish this monarchy the better all of them being appropriate thereunto and as publike agents and privie Counsellers to this end Wherein the wisdome of this state is to be beheld with admiration that as in temporal warre it employes or at least trusts none but natives in Castile Portugall or Arragon so in spirituals it imployes none but the Iesuites and so imployes them that they are generally reputed how remote soever they be from us how much soever obliged to others still to be ours and still to be of the Spanish faction though they be Polonians English French residing in those countries Courts the Penitents therfore and all with whom they deale and converse in their spirituall traffique must needs be so too and so our Catholique King must needs have an invisible kingdome an unknowne number of subjects in all dominions who will shew themselves and their faiths by their works of disobedience whensoever we shal have occasion to use that Iesuiticall vertue of theirs This therefore being the principal ends of all our counsels according to those holy directions of our late pious King Philip 2. to his sonne now reviving to advance the Catholike Romane religion and the Catholike spanish dominion together we are met now by his Majesties command to take account of you Seigneur Gondomor who haue been Embassadour for England to see what good you haue effected there towards the advancement of this worke what further project shall be thought fit to be set on foot to this end And this is briefly the occasion of our meeting Then the Embass who attended bare headed all the time with a low obeisance began thus This most laudable custome of our Kings in bringing all officers to such an account where a review and notice is taken of good or bad services upon the determination of their imployments resembles those Romane triumphs appointed for the soldiers and as in them it provoked to courage so in us it stirres vp to diligence Our master converseth by his Agents with all the world yet with none of more regard then the English where matter of such diversitie is often presented through the severall humors of the State and those of our religion and faction that no instructions can be sufficient for such negotiations but much must be left in trust to the discretion judgment and diligence of the incumbent I speake not this for my owne glory I having beē restrayned and therfore deserved 〈…〉 the behalf of others that ther may be more scope alovved thē to deal in as occasion shall require Briefly this rule delivered by