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52._o m._n jewel_n do_v cunning_o to_o number_v he_o among_o other_o that_o be_v gyltie_n as_o in_o this_o error_n be_v diverse_a of_o the_o old_a learned_a father_n tertullian_n say_v i_o allow_v not_o marriage_n origine_fw-la say_v no_o man_n can_v offer_v the_o continual_a sacrifice_n unless_o he_o be_v a_o virgin_n s._n hierome_n say_v it_o be_v not_o good_a to_o touch_v a_o woman_n therefore_o it_o be_v ill_a to_o touch_v a_o woman_n upon_o occasion_n of_o which_o error_n the_o people_n sometime_o forbear_v the_o church_n where_o martyr_n be_v bury_v to_o conclude_v there_o be_v a_o certain_a figure_n of_o replyinge_v when_o in_o grant_v unto_o some_o matter_n you_o secret_o take_v it_o away_o again_o as_o i_o may_v not_o disgrace_v the_o credit_n of_o this_o story_n 136._o jew._n 136._o albeit_o in_o sozomenus_n and_o nicephorus_n of_o both_o who_o the_o same_o be_v record_v there_o be_v sundry_a thing_n that_o may_v be_v well_o file_v by_o these_o help_n then_o a_o young_a 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