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A54129 A defence of a paper, entituled, Gospel-truths against the exceptions of the Bishop of Cork's testimony by W. Penn Penn, William, 1644-1718.; Penn, William, 1644-1718. Gospel-truths. aut; Wettenhall, Edward, 1636-1713. Testimony of the Bishop of Cork. aut 1698 (1698) Wing P1274; ESTC R218266 58,772 142

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Spirit to open and move upon our Hearts before we dare offer Sacrifice to the LORD or Preach to others the way of his Kingdom That we may Preach in Power as well as Words and as GOD Promised and Christ Ordained Without Money and without Price John 4. 23 24. 1 Thess 1. 5. Isa 55. 1. Rev. 22. 17. Matt. 10. 8. IX This also leads us to deny all the vain Customs and Fashions of the World to avoid Excess in all things that our Moderation may be seen of all Men because the LORD is at hand to see and judge us according to our Deeds Tit. 2. 12. Rom. 12. ● Philip. 4. 5. Eccl. 12. 14. Mat. 16. 27. Rom. 2. 6. Rev. 20. 12. X. We believe the Necessity of the One Baptism of Christ as well as of his One ●upper which he promiseth to Eat with those that open the Door of their Hearts to him being the Baptism and Supper signified by the Outward Signs which tho' we disuse we judge not those that conscientiously practise them Mat. 3. 11. Ephes 4. 1. 1. Pet. 3. 21 22. John 6. Rev. 3. 20. XI We Honour Government For we believe it is an Ordinance of GOD and that we ought in all things to submit by Doing or Suffering But esteem it a great Blessing where the Administration is a Terror to Evil Doers and a Praise to them that Do Well Rom. 13. 1 2 3 4 5. This hath all a long been the General Stream and Tendency both of our Ministry and Writings as our Books will make appear notwithstanding what Ill-minded and Prejudic'd Persons may have strained to Mis-represent Us and our Christian Profession Dublin the 14th of the 3d Month 1698. William Penn. Thomas Story Anthony Sharp George Rooke THE TESTIMONY OF THE BISHOP OF CORK As to a Paper Intituled GOSPEL●TRUTHS held c. by the PEOPLE called QUAKERS And Delivered to Him by an eminent Member of them Friends I Am such a Reader as in your Paper you desire I have read and soberly weighed the account you give of those things which you say are chiefly Received and Professed amongst you And I will exercise so much Moderation and Charity as to lay a great weight on that word chiefly hoping these are not the Only Things or All that you Believe I should have been heartily glad to have found that you had been in the Truth as I am well assured I my self am But as I professed when the Paper was given Me That if I took it you must expect I should bear my Testimony touching It or against It So I now must tell you I think my self bound in Conscience to perform what I then professed and that upon more Reasons than I will now trouble the World with You must not be offended if I say You have such a way of Writing and Speaking that it is very hard in many matters of Religion to know what you mean But as far as I understand you I will candidly acknowledge what Truths you have sufficiently or tolerably exprest I will shew you with meekness how far your Faith if this be your Faith comes short of being sufficient or Christian and I will sincerely tell you what I apprehend to be the cause of your Delusion and how dangerous a condition I really fear nay believe you to be in And first The only Articles in which you have exprest a sufficient Christian Belief are your IV. which is touching Justification and your last touching Government and your Submission thereto I wish you may always stick to this Belief and Practice And I heartily rejoyce to find you acknowledging the Necessity of Christ as a Propitiation in order to Remission of Sins and Justifying You as Sinners from Guilt 'T is the first time I have heard of it amongst you As to all the rest of your Articles I mean those which I understand I must tell you the declaration of your Faith comes so short of what is required from People to denominate them Christians that except under each Article you believe more than you have declar'd you cannot be accounted Christians For first in those Articles of Faith which you have thought fit to mention you have set down only some little Ends I had almost called them Snaps of the Article And Secondly many more whole Articles of the true Christian Faith and which are of no less import you have intirely omitted waved or suppressed You acknowledge in your I. Article there is a God and you own his Providence as to the other Life But that He made Heaven and Earth that He is the Almighty and at present by his Sovereign Power most wisely and holily Governs Orders and Sustains all by his Mercies as well as Judgments even in this World not ●●aving Himself without witness you say not 〈◊〉 word Creation in the beginning and Providence as to this World at present are not here acknowledged by You. We hope you believe both Your II. Article is wholly true for it is express Scripture 1 John V. 7. But it is onely what the Apostle there had occasion to say and what was to his purpose touching the Father Son and Holy Spirit far from being the sum of what the Holy Scripture teaches of them and therefore i● not a sufficient Confession of Faith on that head In your III. Article you acknowledge indeed the Son of God to have been made Flesh but neither Conceived by the Holy Ghost nor Born of the Virgin Mary So that it does not appear by this your Confession but that He was at first an ordinary corrupt sinful Person Nay you own Him not so much as Jesus or the Christ the great Saviour who delivereth from the wrath which is to come or the Great Prophet Priest Lord and King of his Church You acknowledged him indeed to have dyed for Sin but not to mention the Articles inferible from and relating to the Circumstances of his death You have not one word of His Resurrection from the Dead or of His Ascension into Heaven which i● may be proved some of you have expresly denyed saying He is not ascended into Heaven He is in us Nor again of H●… sitting now at the right hand of the Majesty o● high And so you seem not to own any thing of His Mediation Intercession or Appearing now in Heaven for us Nor further have you said a word of his coming again to Judgment or the End of the World Thus indeed You have here neither own'd the Creation nor Dissolution of the World so that it does not appear by this Account of your Faith whether you do not judge it Eternal and so otherwise Infinite Yet again Not a word of One Church which it may be feared you strike out of your Belief because you are resolved never more to return into the Unity of the Church but to make and maintain a Schism or Party for ever Nor further have you a word of the Resurrection of the Body which divers of you have been
of the end of the World whether it be Dissolvable or Eternal For the first it is implied in our making all Men Accountable to God for their Deeds done in the World For the Other it was not under our Consideration being not objected to us But they that say as much of Christian Doctrine as we have done in those Eleven Heads of our Paper did never yet that I have heard believe the Eternity of this World Heb. 1. 10 11 12. Yet again says the Bishop Not a word of one Church which it may be feard you strike out of your Belief because you are resolved never more to return into the Unity of the Church but to make and maintain a Schism or Party for ever These are very harsh Constructions besides that they beg the Question and in my Opinion would have past better from a Person whose Office was less concerned in Charity than That of a Bishop But why pray must Interest and Obstinacy Rule our Dissent What 's to be got by it Profit and Preferment go the Bishops way I will not say he goes Theirs But why not Conscience tho' it were mistaken since we have been all along of the Loosing side which is not usually espoused by the Men of Interest nor are Men ordinarily Obstinate against their Interest Let us at least be Honest Men and allowed to mean well though we were mistaken But what Church of the many Churches in Europe is the Bishops One Church to which he would have us return He has not told us Methinks 〈◊〉 that censures our Shortness so much ●●ould not have been deficient himself in so material a Point So that if we are out of the way we must be so still for all the Bishop since we are yet to seek what Church ●e Err from or should repair to But I ●ill suppose he means his Own by which he excludes the Lutheran and Calvinist the Presbyterian Independant and Baptist as well as the People called Quakers from being of his One Church to say nothing of the Roman Catholick or Greek Churches But unle●ss the One Church as he phrases it by which I understand him to Intend the true One may be of two minds it will be difficult for him to recommend his own above the rest because that is not only broken in Sentiments but Practice too and which the Bishop knows is no longer a Secret I might mention the Differences warmly managed between the Doctors of it about Grace and Free-will one taking the Calvinist the other the Arminian way as they also do about the Doctrine of Satisfaction and Justification Likewise the late Controversie between two Famous Men of the Church about the Trinity who are followed in their differing Sentiments by great Numbers of the Learned of the Bishops One Church And for that Reason if no other I cannot be so well satisfied of his exact Correspondence with all the Articles of that Church himself And I hope I am not beside the business when I say it would very well have become the Bishop to have told us what it is he would have us believe when he found so much fault with what that Paper says we do believe It would be too long and perhaps he might think 〈◊〉 besides the business at least the brevity th● Case requires to give him the reasons o● our Separation and Dissent or Disagreemen● with the Church I put these Words together because some were never Members of it and so they could not properly be said to separate from it but true it is we may all b● said to Dissent or Disagree and I would think the Bishop should not be much to seek for the Reasons of it And yet where we are vulgarly apprehended to differ most we dissent least I mean in Doctrine which is the reason so many have upon occasion said as indeed did the Bishop at the Visit I made him viz. Why we believe the same 't is what we Preach as well as you For except it be the wording of some of the Articles of Faith in School Terms there are very few of them ●●ofest by the Church of England to which ●●e do not heartily Assent And this I have ●●prest for my self and in behalf of my ●●iends in my Key and Primitive Christianity revived But of this and the more material Reasons of our distance from the ●hurch I may have occasion to express my 〈◊〉 at the Closure of this Vindication But the Bishop proceeds in his Sixth Paragraph Nor have yon a word of the Resurrection of the Body which divers of you have ●●en known to deny and others of you only say 〈◊〉 may be so I shall consider this Immediat●ly upon the next Paragraph where he ●eats upon the same Subject and apply my 〈◊〉 to his conclusion of this Lastly Tho' 〈◊〉 acknowledge everlasting Rewards for them that fear God yet nothing of the everlasting ●unishment of wicked Men. I think we do ●nd that the Bishop aggravates his disinge●uity to us upon this Head For the Words of the Paper are these It is our Belief that ●od is and that he is a Rewarder of all them that fear him with Eternal Rewards of Happiness and that those that fear him not shall be turned into Hell The Scriptures are Heb. ●1 6. Rev. 22. 12. Rom. 2. 5 6 7 8. Psalm ●● 17. Now tho' Eternal is not joyned to Hell yet Justice as well as Candor would have understood it so and to mean the Hel● of the damned the Punishment of Evil Doer● after this Life according to the Ancient Common Belief But the Bishop that seldom fails to make the Worst of every thin●… for us Thus comments upon our Word● You mention Hell indeed but whether y●… mean thereby the Grave as most commonly in Scripture is meant or a Place of Temporal Punishment after this Life as some have don● or a State of total Destruction and Annihilation as many now adays do no One knows B●●… with the Bishops leave what if we mea● None of These may we not be in the righ● for all that For what if none of these an●● the Ancient Common and Scripture Belie●… what will the Bishop do then Since On● would think that one of them is the Bishop● Hell because he gives Us and his Reade● no more Room for our meaning or any other Belief of a Hell And either one of these is an Article of his Belief or else he keeps the true Hell to himself and was not so just as to include that in the Question with the rest lest he should be thereby guilty of supposing us capable of meaning the True One is our Gospel-Truths viz. The Worm that never dies the Fire that never goes out where is weeping and gnashing of Teeth for ever ●●e 2 Thessalonians 1. 9. Jude 6 7. And ●hich I think is none of the Three the Bishop mentions However he abundantly ●●●ws his Inclination to represent us rather ●●rong than Right in our Belief For