not onely in their Pulpits but likewise in sundry late Pamphlets wherewith they have filled the World That every particular Congregation of visible Saints and Independent Church is under the Government of Christ alone as the ONELY Head King Governour Law-giver of it and subject TO NO OTHER IVRISDICTION then that of Christ his word and Spirit That NO POWER ON EARTH NOR EARTHLY LAW-GIVERS MAY CAN OR OVGHT TO GIVE LAWES FOR THE GOVERNMENT OF THIS REPVBLIKE nor claime nor exercise an Headship or undertake the Government of this Body That neither KINGS NOR PARLIAMENTS NOR SYNODS have any Authority to prescribe Lawes or Rules for the Churches Government to order the affaires of Christs Kingdome or institute the Government of his Churches or to make coactive Lawes in any Ecclesiasticall matters to bind the conscience of any Church or Christian to outward conformity or inflict any mulcts or penalties for contempt or disobedience Christ onely being the Lord of mens consciences which ought to be left at liberty That the Members of the Parliament are chosen but by a secular Root by the Generality and Riffe Raffe of the world Papists Atheists Drunkards Swearers Men voyd of the knowledge feare and grace of Christ And therefore the Independent Brethren conceive as great AN IMPOSSIBILITY that a Legitimate Ecclesiastick Power should according to the mind of Christ bee by them conferred upon any men or that they should have any Power or Authority from Christ to nominate or appoint who shall bee the men by vertue of such nomination or election to enact Lawes and Statutes in matters of Religion and to order under mulcts and penalties how men shall worship and serve God as it is in Jobs expression to bring a cleane thing out of an uncleane That the Parliaments claiming or exercising any such Ecclesiasticall Power or others attributing of it to them is a meanes to awaken the eye of Jealousie upon them and seven times more destructive and under-mining of not onely their Power but Honour Peace nd Safety also than any thing that is found in the Independent Way so ill entreated That it is a claiming of the sacred and incommunicable Royalties of Heaven an accounting it no Robbery to make themselves equall with God and such an high provocation in the eyes of the Most High as IF CONTINVED IN by the Parliament will kindle a fire in the brest of him whose name is Jealous which will consume and devoure Yea one of them puts this Question If the whole Kingdome may deny obedience unto Popish Acts and Canons or upon any other like just occasion and they themselves bee Judges whether the occasion bee just or no Whether MAY NOT INDEPENDENTS a part of the Kingdome onely doe the like in all respects Or Whether ought they because a Lesser part of the Kingdome yeeld obedience to Popish Acts and Canons because a Major part approve of and agree with a Parliament and Synod in approving them What if they should be for Popery again Judaisme or Turcisme t is no offence to make a Quere nor impossible to come to passe the greatest part of those that chose our Parliament men being thought to be Popishly or Malignantly affected c. Putting divers such like Queries destructive to the very fundamentall Power and Being of Parliaments and as bad or worse than the Popish Gun-powder Plot to blow up the Soveraign Ecclesiastick and Civill Authority of this High Court in all succeeding Ages These with infinite other Anti-Parliamentall Anti-Synodicall and Anti-Monarchicall Paradoxes at which I professe I stand amazed have not onely dropped from the Lips but Pens of sundry Independents who have avowed them publikely in Print with their Names affixed to their Bookes even before the face of Your Right Honourable Parliamentary Assembly and Supreme Tribunall in such open affront and high contempt of Your undoubted Rights Power Priviledges which Your Honours and wee all are obliged by Late Solemne Oathes Covenants Protestations to defend maintaine with our very Lives and Estates and to discover oppose all others who shall invade them to our uttermost power as I am confident no Age nor History can ever parallel in the least measure the very Malignant Prelates and Anti-Parliamentary Cavaliers having not proceeded in this kind so farre as they which I speake with deepest griefe of heart and spirit out of Conscience of that common Vow and Covenant which bindes mee to discover oppugne reveale abhorre it and detestation of their most pernicious Assertions not out of the least malice or hatred to any of their Persons What the Independents end of publishing these desperate Anti-Parliamentary Paradoxes should be unlesse to prepare their party and all others as much as in them lies utterly to reject whatever publike forme of Church-Government Discipline Reformation and Directory of Worship Your Honours by the advice of the Reverend Assembly shall establish in our Church for the future after all your serious consultations debates paines Prayers and Fastings about it and to set up their owne Anomolous Platforme which they averre is Christs Kingdome and Government and which may upon probable and higher grounds than of reason bee thought in time to overthrow and put downe all other Governments whatsoever and to stand up alone in their stead since Christs Kingdome shall stand up when all opposite earthly Kingdomes like earthen vessells shall with an Iron Rod bee dashed in peeces Which they close up with a Faxit Deus festinet in despight of Your Authority and all humane Power whatsoever I cannot conjecture And their owne late printed Passages with Mr. Iohn Goodwins Sermon that it would be more easie for him and hee should rather yeeld to bee torne in pieces by wild horses than submit to such a Government which proceeded from a Parliament chosen by the Riffe-raffe of the world c. intimate and expresse as much Which what an high contempt it is against Your undoubted Power and pious Ecclesiasticall proceedings in Reforming setling the Doctrine Discipline and Government of our Church the grand desire and prayer of all wel-affected spirits I most humbly submit to Your saddest thoughts and deepest wisedomes who have both Power and Authority in Your hands to suppresse incomparable Prudence and Providence to prevent these growing dangerous Insolencies before they become Masterlesse or Epidemicall past Your cure Farre be it from my thoughts to exasperate Your Power or Iustice against any Delinquents of this kind some whereof are so neare and deare unto mee that it is my heaviest affliction to mention their extravagancies in this kind of which I trust they and all their followers will be now ashamed and a Brotherly Admonition to their Persons though their Writings undergoe the sharper Censure will I hope induce them upon second thoughts both to discerne lament recant their fore-mentioned Paradoxes and abhorre themselves for them even in dust and ashes as one of them professeth hee will doe in case hee be convinced And
no collections when I come and the very words import Therefore it can be no president for an ordinary constant unalterable universall Church-government and discipline established in all Churches 5ly Which takes of all and turnes its edg against my Brother It is must be confessed that this is no binding precept nor president in point of collections themselves much lesse then in other things For 〈◊〉 demand of my Brother 1. Whether this text did simply bind all the Corinthians to a weekely preparatory contribution towards the poore Brethrens necessities that were in Jerusalem so as they might not deny or vary from it it being rather a bare advise then a peremptory precept a meere voluntary charitable action as is cleare by comparing it with Act. 13 28. 29. 30. Rom. 15. 25. 26. 2 Cor. 8. 9. 1. to 15. especially v. 7. Every man according as he hath purposed in his heart so let him give not grudgingly as of necessity for God loveth a cheareful giver 2. Whether they were necessarily tied to make privat contributions only on the first day of the week no other or had they not a liberty notwithstanding this order to do it on any other week day as wel as on the first or every day or every fortnight or 10. dayes if they pleased as their particular occasions and conditions administred abillity or opportunity for such a charitable worke 3ly Whether this prescript forme of collection admitting it obligatory during this occasion did bind any Church but this of Corinth and those of Galatia only or whether it obliged all other Churches then or simply binds all Churches now to this forme of preparatory or privat contributions or not If you say no then you yeeld the cause since this president binds no Churches now to any punctuall imitation Therefore it is no proofe at all for any one divine universall unvariable forme of Church-government and discipline in all ages prescribed by Scripture If you say yea then all Christians Congregations in the world your Independent to offend against this the Apostles divine institution in not retaining this form of privat collections by segregating something for the use of the poore Saiâ—ts on every Lords day or weekly in suffering publique gatherings for the poore in Churches on Lecture dayes or week-day fasts whereas these were no such collections but only laying somthing up in private by way of preparatory Charity against the Apostles comming who would then receive every mans particular Charity by itselfe and not trouble them with any publike collections In one word No Churches nor Independent Congregations hold themselves strictly obliged to this forme of collection which was not publique but private every man by himselfe but all hould they may with safe conscience vary from it Therefore if this collection be a part of Church-government or Discipline under the Gospell as you make it this Government Disciplin is both mutable and arbitrable in this particular and so by consequence in others to as occasions and conditions of the Church do vary Your third Text of Acts 14. 23. When they had ordained them Elders in every Church proves nothing for what you alledge it For first it extends not to all Churches then planted in the World but onely to every Church in Derbie Lystra Iconium Antioch to which every Church relates as is cleare by comparing it with the three preceding and following verses whence the Argument from this Text can be but this The Apostles ordained Elders in every Church at Derbe Lystra Iconium and Antioch and so in every City in Creete Tit. 1. 5. Ergo in all Churches throughout the world Which is no infallible inference They might do it in all or most Cities where the Congregations were great yet not in Villages or lesser places where the number of Beleevers was but small Secondly This proues there were Elders ordained by the Apostles in many if not most Churches But yet it concludes not infallibly that there must of necessity bee Elders ordained by those who are no Apostles in all Churches There were such Elders then Ergo there must of necessity be such now in every Church unlesse there be a direct precept enjoyning them for perpetuity is no infallible Argument Thirdly Admit it generall and binding unto all yet this proves onely that there ought by Apostolicall president and institution to be Elders not one but more in all Churches what then becomes of some of your Independent Churches which have none as Master Simsons had none in Holland and as no new Independent Churches in or about London had when they were first gathered These certainly were no true Churches of Christ by this rule because they wanted Elders Fourthly This Text speakes onely in the generall that they ordained Elders in every Church But what sort of Elders they were Ruling or Preaching Elders onely or such who did both Rule and Preach or in what manner they were ordained whether by lifting up of hands onely to chuse them and no more or by laying hands upon them or by the Apostles owne imposition of hands only as Apostles or joyning with others as ordinary Ministers or in any other form is not expressed So that this Text onely informes us that there were Elders ordained in every Church but determines nothing of their office or in what manner or form they were ordained Therefore it concludes nothing for any exact compleat unalterable universall forme of Church-government in all particulars prescribed to all Churches ordaining of Elders being onely one part of Church-government not the whol no part of Discipline that left very indefinitely in respect of the manner and forme which the Scripture hath not by any direct precept or president reduced to an unalterable certainty but rather left Arbitrary and indefinite as will appeare by comparing Num. 8. 10. Acts 1 23. 24. 25. 26. c. 6. 5. 6. c. 14. 23. 1 Cor. 4. 14. c. 5. 17. 22. 2 Tim. 1. 6. 1 Tim. 4. 14. Tit. 1. 5. It being a great Controversie at this day whether imposition of hands be now simply necessary in the ordination of Presbyters Deacons or Lay-Elders or whether it be but an arbitrary ceremony which may be omitted without prejudice if there be cause whether it belonged to the Apostles onely as Apostles or as Presbyters whether it be appropriated to Preaching Elders onely as such or to ruling Elders as well as they or to the whol Church or Congregation and such as they shall appoint Or to Arch-bishops and Bishops only as such as many held of late though now that question is out of date So as neither of these Texts in severall nor any nor all three of them conjoyned prove any such conclusion or universall set forme of Church-government and Discipline for all Churches as is pretended My Brothers 4. Objection is The every particular Congregation is a compleate intire absolute spirituall Republike Corporation Body and City of God of it self
and of absolute authority within it self subject to no other Jurisdiction then that of Christ his Word and Spirit and not to any other particular Congregation Synod or Nationall Church or humane power whatsoever Therefore the Parliament and Assembly can make no Canons nor Rules to binde it nor prescâ—ibe any Church-government or Discipline to it Brother this is the summe of your whole Book and it grieves me to see so many strange Parodoxes piled up together to support an Independent Fabrick by one of your yeares and Iudgement Give me leave therefore to discover your manifold over-sights in this particular by such demonstrations as you shall not be able to gain say First then I say that the whole Church of Christ is but one intire Mysticall Body whereof Christ is the supreame Spirituall Head and Governour and all particular Churches only members of this intire Body as the head hand feet are members of the Naturall Body not absolute bodies of themselves as every house or Parish in a City is a member of the whol City Every Company or Regiment in an Army a member of that Realme not absolute bodies Cities Armies Kingdomes of themselves That this is truth we have sundry expresse Resolutions of Scripture in positive tearms as the 1 Cor. 12. 12 13 14. 26. 27. and in truth the whole Chapter Ephes â— 22 23. c. 2. 14. 15. to the end c. 4. 11. to 17. c. 5. 23. to 33. Col. 1. 18. 24. c. 2. 17. 19. which you may peruse at leisure Ephes 4. 3. to 7. Endeavouring to keepe the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace For there is ONE BODY one Spirit one Lord one Faith one Baptisme One God and Father of all who is above all and through all and in all And John 17. 20. 21. 23. Neither pray I for these alone but for them also which shall believe on me through their word THAT THEY ALL MAY BE ONE as thou father art one and I am in thee that they also MAY BE ONE IN US and may be made perfect IN ONE Hence the Scripture usually expresseth the whol Catholike Church of Christ which allages hitherto have believed to be but one so far as to make it an Article of their Creed under singular titles as the Church A WOMAN MY LOVE MY DOVE my Sister my Spouse a Garden a Vineyard a City a Congregation an Assembly Sion Jerusalem an House a Flocke a Body and the like to note it unity that it is but ONE intire spirituall Corporation though distributed into severall particular Congregations scattered â—ver the face of the whole World This being an indubitable verity strikes off the head of your Galiah and subverts the very foundation of Independent Congregations which would be absolute and compleat spirituall Bodies within themselves and no members of a Catholike or Nationall Church Secondly If all the particular Churches in the World bee in reality but one intire Body and Church of Christ then by the self-same reason likewise all the particular Congregations within one Nation Kingdome Republike united in one civill Corporation under one Head and temporall government are but one and the selfe-same Church and members one of another not absolute Independent Congregations of themselves subordinate to no other even as all the particular persons in a House make up but one Family all the particular Houses Parishes in a City but one City all the severall Cities Counties in a Kingdome one Realme and all the Nations on the earth but one world of men These cleare principles of Divinity Policy Nature experience none can or may deny unlesse he hath lost his sences or means to subvert all humane Relations and Societies And my Brother acknowledging the whole Nation of the Jewes to be but one intire Nationall Church though divided into sundry Synagogues and particular Congregations as is evident by Acts 15. 24. FOR MOSES OF OLD TIME hath IN EVERY CITY them that Preach him being read in THE SYNAGOGVES EVERY SABBATH DAY compared with Psa 74. 8. Matth. 6. 2. 5. c. 7. 1. 8. c. 9. 35. c. 23. 34. Mark 1. 21. 23. 29. 39 c. 3. 1. n. 5. 22. Luke 4. 15. to 44. c. 13. 10. c. 21. 12. John 6. 59. c. 9. 22. c. 18. 20. c. 10. 2 Acts 9. 2. 20. c. 13. 5. 14. 42. c. 14. 1. c. 17. 1. 10. c. 18. 4. 7. 13. 26. c. 19. 8. c. 22. 12. must of necessity subscribe to this conclusion issuing naturally from it that all particular Congregations in any one Christian Realm Nation Republike are but one intire Church though divided into severall squadrons for necessity and conveniency as one house is into many Roomes one City into many Streets Parishes companies wards one Kingdome into divers Counties Provinces One Parliament into severall Houses Sub-Committees as there is occasion one Armie into severall Regiments Brigades Companies Troopes Thirdly It is at clear as Noonday That in all Civill or Ecclesiasticall Corporations Congregations or Societies of men united into one common Politique Body the whol body or greater part hath by the Law of God Nature Nations a lawful inherent jurisdiction over every particular member or lesser part to make Laws and common Rules to obliege them for the safety peace benefit of the whol Body In all Parliaments Councels of State or War Cities Corporations Societies Courts of Iustice Chapters Committees yea in all elections of Magistrates Ministers Knights or Burgesses of Parliament Majors of Cities Masters Wardens of Companies heads or fellows of Colledges Church-wardens and the like the whol Body or major voyce bindes the lesser number all the whol body ever over-rules the parts And it must needs be so els there could be no Rule Order Government in any of them if one member only or the lesser part should over-rule and prescribe Lawes unto the whole or greater part not they to them The like rule holds firme and hath ever taken place 〈…〉 â—â—mall generall Nation Provinciall Parochiall or Congregation 〈…〉 Synods Convocations Assemblies or meetings in all matters of 〈…〉 Discipline Government Lawes Rules Edicts Censure Descition 〈…〉 Yea in Independent Churches themselves the Votes Orders 〈◊〉 determinations of the whole or major part of the Congregation binde all the other dissenting as well as consenting members neither will any Independent Congregation admit of any into their new society but such who shall first submit to the Covenant Orders Government Rules and Discipline that Congregation or the major part thereof hath elected established Fourthly It is a principle of the Law of Nature and common Reason which all Republikes Churches Societies of men in every age till this present have admitted that the Lawes Ordinances Decrees of the greatest Civill or Ecclesiasticall Assemblies where the whole Realme Republike Church or Nation are personally or representatively present by their deputies or Proxies obliege all inferiour Corporations Societies Churches Congregations Persons within their
as Neubrigensis l. 1. c. 19. records In the Lateran Councell held by Charles the great and Pope Adrian and called principally by this Pope the Councell was most solemnly held by 53 Ecclesiasticall persons Bishops or Abbots together with Judges Magistrates and Doctors of Law from all parts and also persons of all sorts and states of that City and all the Clergie of the Church of Rome who made enquiry of the customes lawes and manners of that Church and Empire consulting also by what meanes heresies and seditions might be rooted out of the Apostolique See and treating of the dignity of the Senate and Empire of Rome seeing that by reason of these things a false errour was spread over the whole world In another Councell of Lateran under Pope Leo and the Emperour Otho the Pope himselfe in his Speech to the Emperour confesseth that that Councell consisted not onely of Clergy-men but of Judges and Doctors of Law That such may be competent and meet Judges in matters of Religion and Church-affaires is evident by this notable passage of Cardinall Jacobatius though a great stickler for the Popes and Prelates authorities that in a Synod holden before Constantine and Helena where it was disputed Whether the Jewish or Christian Law should be preferrred Craton a Philosopher who would not possesse any worldly goods and Zenosimus who never received present from any in the time of his Consulship were appointed Iudges of this controversie With which the saying of learned John Gerson Chancellour of Paris accords There was a time when without any rashnesse or prejudice to faith the controversies of faith were referred to the judgement of Pagan Philosophers who presupposing the faith of Christ to be such as it was confessed to be however they did not beleeve it yet they knew what would follow by evident and necessary consequence from it and what was repugnant to it Thus it was in the Councell of Nice as is left unto us upon record So likewise Eutropius a Pagan Philosopher was chosen JVDGE between Origen and the Marcionites who were condemned by him If Pagan Philosopehrs then much more Christian Laicks endowed with learning and wisdome may be fit Iudges of controversies of Religion and Ecclesiasticall affaires and fit to have Votes in Synods And that they have been so deemed in ancient times is evident by one memorable history recorded by Possidonius in the life of S. Augustine cap. 12 13 14. who not onely informes us that Crispinus Bishop of Calamen a Donatist being accused before the Proconsull for an Hereticke and for breaking the lawes against Hereticks and denying himselfe to be one St Augustine and he debated the controversie three severall times before the Proconsull in a great multitude of Christian people expecting the event both at Carthage and throughout all Africk and that Crispin at last was pronounced an Hereticke by the Proconsull by a judiciall sentence After which there was a generall meeting at Carthage between all the Catholike Bishops and the Donatists by the speciall command of the most glorious and religious Emperour Honorius who sent Marcellinus the Tribune and Notary into Africk to bee Iudge in that Collation In which Conference the Donatists being throughly confuted and convinced of errour by the Catholikes were condemned by the sentence of the Iudge From which sentence they appealing to this Emperour were afterwards upon full hearing condemned by him and declared Hereticks Vpon which Appeale of theirs St. Augustine descants thus Is it peradventure not lawfull for the Emperour or those whom the Emperour shall send to give judgement in a matter of Religion Why then came your Embassadours to the Emperour why made they him the Iudge of their cause c. The Act of Marcellinus his sentence against the Donatists runs thus To the end that apparent errour may undergoe the yoke of revealed truth by the authority of this present Edict I advise all men of what condition soever Land-lords Stewards and Farmers as well which hold of the Crowne as of private possessions with the Ancients in all places that not forgetting the Lawes their owne dignity honour and safeguard they doe their endevour to hinder all Conventicles of the Donatists in all Townes whatsoever who shall bee bound to surrender up to the Catholikes those Churches which I allowed them of courtesie untill the day of sentence without Commission from the Emperour Photius Bishop of Smyrnae being accused for an Heretick by the Councell there was afterwards admitted to dispute with the Catholike Bishops in which dispute saith Sozomen certaine Iudges were ordained for Presidents of the Councell who from that time forwards were accounted men of prime ranke in the palace both for knowledg and dignity after many objections and answers pro and con Basil Bishop of Ancyra who defended the doctrine of the Catholikes got the victory and Photinus was condemned and sent into banishment Athanasius in his 2. Apologie requests that the Emperours most godly and religious Majesty might have the hearing of his own and his churches cause for we have good hopes that his godlinesse understanding our reasons will never condemne us If this seem strange to any Romanist that Lay-men should be competent Iudges in matters of Divinitie and have voices in Councels their owne Pope Nicholas his resolution in this very point may cease their wonder who saith in downe-right termes Faith is catholike and common to all as well to Lay-men as Priests yea generally to all Christians he speaks it expresly of Lay-mens assisting in Councels therefore it is just and reasonable they should have voices in matters of faith as well as Bishops and Clergy-men I shall close up this with the resolution of Marsilius of Padua who expresly resolves that Lay-men especially those who are pious and learned ought to be present in and summoned to generall Councels as well as Clergie-men especially when the Clergie are either ignorant corrupt or erronious in their judgements or scandalous in their lives His reasons are these First because they have all as great an interest in the faith and Churches good as any Prelates Popes or Clergie-men Secondly because many of them are better learned and versed in the Scriptures and Antiquities then many Bishops and Clergie-men yea more sound and orthodoxe in their judgments then they Thirdly because they were present and had voices in the Synod at Hierusalem even in the Apostles dayes Acts 15. and in the purest first generall Councels in which the Emperours with their Nobles and Officers assisted in the resolving of Scripture doubts Fourthly because the very Code of Isiodore for the manner of holding Councels hath this direction Deinde ingrediantur LAICI qui ELECTIONE CONCILII INTERESSE MERUERUNT Multò magis igitur qui fuerint literati in lege divina periti quanquam non sacerdotes existant sic enim fecerunt Apostoli cum Senioribus c. 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Lipsiae 1584. together with the severall Confession of all the Protestant Churches in Germany and elsewhere recorded in the Harmony of Confessions which were made published established by the severall Protestant States to Diets or Parliaments by common consent of the Nobles Magistrates Senates Ministers of those Churches not by the Clergy alone are a sufficient demonstration of their Ecclesiasticall legislative power and jurisdiction in all matters of Faith Discipline and Government In few words I dare averre that there is never a forraigne Christian Empire Kingdome or Republike in the world whether Protestant or Popish but hath in their Parliaments Diers Senates made sundry Lawes concerning matters of Faith Government Discipline Clergiemen and all Ecclesiasticall affaires yea for the establishment of that Religion Church Government and Discipline in present use among them as their severall Laws and Constitutions will abundantly manifest to any who have vacancy to peruse them I shall close up this Section with some presidents of the Parliaments of Ireland and Scotland which have most affinity to the Parliaments of England Among the printed Statutes of Ireland collected by Master Belton I mèet with these ensuing Ecclesiasticall Lawes made in the Parliaments of Ireland 36. H. 6. c. 1. That Beneficed persons shall keep Residence 7. E. 4. c. 2. 3. That none shall purchase Benefices from Rome and that pardons made to such as purchase them thence shall be voyde 10. H. 7. c. 5. Against provisors from Rome 25. H. 8. c. 2. For uniting the Personage of Cantrim to the Priory of Saint Peters 28. H. 8. c. 5. That the King shall be supreame head of the Church of Ireland ch 8. and 26. For payment of first-fruits ch 13. Against the Authority of the Bishops of Rome and chap. 14. 17 18 23. For other Ecclesiasticall matters 33. H. 8. c. 6. Conconcerning Mariages cha 12. For Tithes chap. 14. For erecting of Vicaridges 33. H. 8. Parl. 2. chap. 5. For suppressing religious houses 2. Eliz chap. 1. For restoring to the Crowne the ancient Iurisdiction and the State Ecclesiasticall and abolishing all forraigne power repugnant to the same cha 2. For the uniformity of Common prayer and service in the Church chap. 3. Concerning first fruits and Personages impropriate c. 4. For the conferring and consecrating of Archbishops and Bishops 11. Eliz. c. 6. and 13. Eliz. c. 6. with diverse others since For Scotland I finde many Ecclesiasticall Lawes concerning the Church Church-men and all matters of Religion made in Parliament and intermixed with their temporall Acts. To omit the Ecclesiasticall Lawes of King Keneth mixed with his Temporal enacted about the Yeare of our Lord 844. In the Statutes of K. William of Scotland made about the Yeare of our Lord 1170 chap 32. Is For maintaining the true Religion and the Rights and liberties of haly Kirke chapter 34. Of the honesty of Clarkes King Robert the first in his Parliament holden at Scone with his Bishops Abbots Priors Eaâ—iâ—s Barons and other Noblemen of his Realme to the honour of God and haly Kirke with common advise and consent of all the Prelates and Freeholders foresaide and haile community in the 13. Yeare of his Raigne to wit Anno 1319 made a law chapter 〈◊〉 For the freedome of the Kirke and Kirkmen and maintenance of true Religion And the second Parliament of this King chapter 1. Is of Donation of Lands made to Religious persons and chapter 14. Concernes Nunnes Among the Statutes of King David the 2. the 12th chapter is of Pilgranners and chapter 42. For freedome of holy Kirke Not to mention all the statutes made in the Parliaments of Scotland in times of Popery for advancing the Popes Authority Masse Prelacy with sundry Doctrines and Ceremonies abolished by subsequent Acts in times of Reformation I shall only give you a briefe account of some of their Acts of Parliament since beginning of reformation in that Kingdome I finde in Master John Knox his History of the reformation of the Church of Scotland lib. 3 pag 56 57. in the London edition â—644 That in a Parliament held in Scotland Anno 1543. there began question of the abolishing of certaine tyrannicall Acts made before at the devotion of the Prelates for the maintaining of their Kingdome of darknesse to wit That under paine of Haeresy none should read any part of the Scripture in the vulgar Tongue neither yet any Tractate or exposition of any place of Scripture which Act after great debate in Parliament betweene the Nobility Commons and Clergie was wholly repealed and this Act of Parliament enacted That it should be lawfull to every man to use the benefit of the Translations which then they had of the Old and New Testament together with the benefis of other Treatises containing wholsome doctrine untill such time at the Prelates and other Church-men should give and set forth unto them a translation more correct And so by Act of Parliament it was made free to all men and women to reade the Scriptures in their vulgar tongue and all Acts to the contrary abolished This was no small victory of Christ Jesus against the conjured enemies of his Verity In the yeare 155â— of the Protestants in Scotland petitioned both the Queene Regent and likewise the Lords Barons Burgesses assembled there in Parliament for repeale of severall Lawes formerly made against Heritickes for prayers in their vulgar Tongue frequent preaching or interpretation of the Scriptures due administration of the Sacraments of Baptisme and the Lords Supper Reformation of the Church Prelates and ecclesiasticall estate their lives Courts and proceedings And likewise entered a formall Protestation in the Parliament House After this in the yeare 1560. The Protestant Barrons Gentlemen Burgesses and others of the Realme presented a large supplication to the Nobility 〈◊〉 States of Parliament then assembled wherein they desired the abolition of Idolatry and such false Doctrin as wâ—e condemned by Gods word by Act of that Parliament and punishment to be appointed for the transgression that the abuses and prosanations of the Sacraments of Jesus Christ and of the true Discipline of the Church might be reformed That the Popes usurped ecclesiasticall Authority might be abolished and the Popish Clergy removed c. Which application being read in the Audience of the whole Assembly the Batons Ministers other Petitioners were thereupon commanded to draw into plaine and severall heads the summe of that Doctrine which they would maintaine and desire the present Parliament to establish as wholsome true and only necessary to be beleived and to be received within the Realme which they willingly accepted and within foure dayes presented a large Confession of the faith professed and beleived by the Protestants within the Realme of Scotland consisting of 25. Articles which were read in face of Parliament and after ratified by the three States of this Realme at Edinburgh the 17. of Iuly 1560. and by the whole body of the Parliament which
That every particular Church now consisting of visible Saints is under Christ as the SOLE Head King Governour Law-giver of it and so is subject to no other jurisdiction then that of Christ his Spirit his Word We hold that every particular Church is under Christs Government as the SOLE Head King Lord Governour thereof That it is a spirituall House whose only builder and Governour is Christ and not man A spirituall Kingdome whose only King is Christ and not man A spirituall Republique whose only Law-giver is Christ and not man A spirituall Corporation whose only head is Christ and not man That no man nor power on earth hath a Kingly power over this Kingdome That no earthly Law-givers may give Lawes to this Kingdome or Republique That no man may claime or exercise a head-ship over this body That no man can or ought to take the Government of this Communion of Saints That men may not appoint limit constitute what Congregations of all sorts they please to be Churches of Christ as Nations and Parishes That Christ is King over every mans conscience so that no power on earth may sit with him in this his Thror c. yea so as no human power not Law may intermeddle to prescribe rules for the Government or formes of this Church of Christ That the Children of those Parents who will not thus acknowledge Christ to be their only King and Law-giver and are ashamed or afraid to be thus in Covenant with Christ in the Independents way as their King are not to be baptized such Parents not being within the Covenant A very hard and uncharitable censure of all Churches Persons who are not Independent That Christ is the ONLY Potentate Law-giver Lord King Governour over Churches and not men Not Councells or Senates That this is Christs Royall Prerogative which is incommunicable to ANY or All the powers on earth That Christ hath not delegated his Kingly Office to any Princes Magistrates PARLIAMENTS to set up any forme of Worship of Church-Government who have no authority to make Lawes to rule or binde any particular Churches and if they make any such they shall be apt to transgresse them but yet men must take heed how they punish them for that transgression with any enseresciderdum or Club-law This is the summe and oft repeted Argument of my deare Brothers Booke To give a satisfactory Answer to this Objection I shall first demand of my dear Brother what he meanes by this frequently incultated assertion That every particular Church is under Christ as the only Head King Lawgiver Lord and Governour thereof c. and that none ought to have any power rule or Jurisdiction in the Church but Christ alone If he intends that he is the only immediate HEAD KING Law-giver and Governour as he clearely doth I desire some solid scripture proofes for it since he produceth none to evince it the rather because it is quite contrary to sundry expres Texts which stile Kings Majestrates Ministers Heigher powers Rulers Overseers Fathers Nursing Fathers Pastors of over their Churches people flocks who are ever enjoyned to obey submit unto them yea Rulers of the Templ Congregation Church Rulers Chife Rulers of the Synagogu â—ay sometimes Gods sitting upon Gods throne to whom men must yeeld obedience for the Lords sake as to Gods Christs Vicegerents and Embassadours Yea Brother your selfe informe us out of Scripture pag. 51. That the members of Christs body are Superiour and inferiour as Pastors Teachers Teaching and RVLING Elders Helps GOVERNMENTS Bishops or OVERSEERS c. If Christ then be the onely Head King Ruler Shephard Governour of his Church and none else in that sense you object what will become of these Pastors Ruling-Elders Governours Overseers which you averre Christ hath fixed in his Churches What will become of those Independent Ministers who take upon them like absolute kings Popes Lawgivers to erect gather new Chruches of their own forming and prescribe both Lawes Rules Covenants to them which Christ never made Brother you must expunge the 1 Tim. 5. 17 Let the Elders that RULE well be counted worthy of double honour Rom. 13. 1. Let every soule BEE SVBIECT to the HIGHER POWERS c. even for CONSCIENCE SAKE Tit. 3. 1. Put them in minde to be subject to Principalities and Powers to obey Magistrates c. Heb. 12. 17. Obey them that have THE RULE OVER YOU and SVBMIT your selves for they watch for your soules as they that must give an account c. Remember Salute all them that have the RVLE OVER YOV Acts 20. 28. Take heed to the floke over which the Holy Ghost hath made you OVERSEERS or Bishops to feed the Church of God which he hath purchased with his bloud Rom. 12. 8. HE that RVLETH let him do it with diligence 2 Chron. 9. 8. Blessed be the Lord thy God who delighted in thee to set thee VPON HIS THRONE to BE KING FOR THE LORD THY GOD c. with infinite other Texts yea the very names of Kings Princes Governours Elders Rulers Magistrates Overseers Bishops Teachers Fathers Pastors Masters c. out of the Bible and all Christian States Churches if you will make Christ alone the only immediate King Ruler Governour Lawgiver of his Church in the sence you here object it and that no person nor humane power whatsoever hath or ought to have any rule power or jurisdiction in or over the Churches people of God But if you meane no more but that Christ is the onely supreame Head King Lord Governour Lawgiver Pastor and Ruler of his Church and that all other Kings Princes Magistrates Rulers Pastors Ministers Governours are subordinate unto him as to the King of Kings Lord of Lords and chiefe Shepheard of his flockâ— your proposition is true but your conclusion miserably false that therfore there are no subordinate Kings Magistrates Rulers Pastors Governours Lawgivers under him to rule governe order instruct direct his Churches and people which the forequoted Texts your owne experience reason and the whole world will contradict Secondly I shall demand of my Brother how he proves all his forementioned Paradoxes concerning Christ and the Church in the sense he propounds them Or that his own or other Independent Churches lately gathered erected by no other but by men and consederated by a new Covenant framed by men not Christ to be built governed ordered onely by Christ and not men to be the spirituall Kingdome of Christ c. whole onely King Governour Head is Christ and not man Or in what Text he can shew me any particular Independent Church stiled Christs spirituall Kingdom and Republike I find it prophesied Revl 11. 15. That when the seventh Angel foundeth The KINGDOMES of this World which must be meant of Nationall Churches which you deny not of Particular Congregations which are no such Kingdoms shall become the Kingdomes of the Lord and of his Christ That all the
ends of the World shall turne unto the Lord and all the kindreds of the Nations shall worship before him for THE KINGDOME is the Lords and he is the Governour among the NATIONS That ALL NATIONS shall serve and worship before him That he shall have DOMINION from sea to sea and from the Rivers to the ends of the earth That all DOMINIONS shall serve and obey him That the KINGDOMES of the earth shall sing unto the Lord c. All pregnant proofs of Nationall Churches which should serve and obey Christ But that Independent particular Congregations of visible Saints and they only should be Christs Kingdom Republick and Governed immediately by him rests yet on my Brothers part to make proofe of when he is able Thirdly I shall request my Brothers to satisfie me others by that Texts he can make good these Paradoxes of his That those who will not submit to his Independent Church-government Covenant become members of such Churches have no interest in the Covenant Sacraments or Seal of the Covenant or right to any Church-Communion That they are not within the Covenant visibly and therefore their Children not visibly to bee baptized That they professe not Christ to be their King and are afraid or ashamed to be in Covenant with Christ as their King c. Do not these uncharitable Paradoxes good Brother un-Church un-Saint all Christians and reformed Churches whatsoever which submit not to your new way excluding both them and their Children from the Covenant and Seales of Grace and all Church-communion at least in and among your Congregations as professed enemies to the Kingdome and Soveraignty of Christ Is not this the very language Doctrine of the Antichristian Church of Rome who vaunts herself the onely true Church of Christ out of which there is no salvation un-Churching all Churches and un-Saincting all Christians but their owne professed members as haeretickes Schismaticks and enemies to Christ yea is it not an higher strain of spirituall pride and uncharitable Behaviour against your brethren then ever the Donatists or Nouatians broached I beseech you deare Brother in the bowels of Christ to consider and recant these harsh passages which you can never justifie before God or men and have given great offence to many who cordially affect you These generall questions being demanded I shall next addresse my selfe to a more particular answer of the premised Objection by reducing it into these Logical arguments which wil best detect the fallacies imbecillities of it The first is this Christ is the only immediate supreame King Head Ruler and Governour of every particular Church Ergo no Kings Parliaments Councels Synode or any human Power can make any Lawes Rules Canons for the setling of Religion or reforming Governing well ordering of any particular Churches of Christ This is the summe of all my Brothers Passages I answer that this is a meere Independent Argument which will introduce a world of absurdities if admitted as I shall cleare by these following Instances 1. The Scripture is expresse That God himselfe is King yea a great King over all the earth That Christ is the ONLY Potentate the King of Kings and Lord of Lords yea a great King over all Gods That all the Kingdomes and Nations of the earth are the Lords and that he giveth them to whomsoever he willâ— That his kingdome ruleth over all That his is the greatnes the Kingdom the power and the glory and the Majesty that all that is in the Heaven and in the Earth are his that he is exalted as head over all and raigneth over all That he is Lord and King of all as well of their bodies estates as soules and consciences Ergo By my Brothers forme of Arguing No Kings Parliaments Potentates Rulers Kingdoms Republikes ought to make any Lawes for the government of their Realmes publikes Nations Corporations or the ordering of mens persons or temporall estates but God and Christ alone and all particular Kingdomes Societies States Corporations Families are and ought to be immediatly subject to no King Majestrat Parliament or human power whatsoever even in temporall things but only to God and Christ 2ly God is more frequently stiled in Scripture The Lord of HOSTS and God of BATTLE then he is called the only King of his Church a Title you can hardly show me in direct termes in sacred writ Yea his power and providence principally appeares in mannnaging and disposing all occurrences and particulars concerning Hosts Armies Battles as your Brother Burroughs in his Glorious name of the Lord of Hosts hath largely manifested Ergo by this Logicke No King Parliament Generall Captaine or Councell of Warre may or ought to make or prescribe any Martiall Lawes for the regulating governing mustering Marshaling or disciplyning of their Hosts but God alone 3ly Christ is our only Soveraigne Lord Master Father Ergo no Landlord Master Father ought to prescribe any Lawes Rules orders for the better Government of their Tenants servants families Children but Christ alone by your argumentation 4ly Christ is the chiefe Shepherd Bishop Prophet Teacher and Instructor of his Church Ergo none ought by your reasoning to seed teach or instruct the Church and people of God but Christ alone We must have no Ministers teaching Elders Pastors Teachers to instruct Vs henceforth who are but men and not Christ himselfe 5ly Christ is the only Mediator Advocate Intercessor for his Church and people Ergo none ought by their Prayers and intercessions to soltcite the throne of Grace for the peace prosperity reformation and deliverance of Christs Churches and people but Christ alone Ministers must not pray for their people nor Saints one for another noreither of them for the whole Church of God if your Argumentation be solid 6ly If this argument stand firme then marke the inevitable consequences of it Independent Subjects will argue with their Princes Majestrates Superiors thus Christ is our only King Head Lord. Therefore we must not be subject to any Lawes and commands what soever but only to the lawes and precepts of Christ Wives Children servants will reason thus Christ is our onely Head Husband King Lord Father Master Therefore we will not we ought not to be subject to any of the Lawes Orders precepts of our Husbands Parents Ministers but only to the immediate Rules Laws edicts of Christ himselfe Mutinous or Independent Souldiers will thus argue with their Generalls and Commanders Christ is our only Captaine Generall and our Lord of Hosts Ergo we will be commanded conducted ordered by none but Christ not by any other Captain or Generall whatsoever Nay people and every member of your Independent Congregations upon any discontent wil thus dispute with their Ministers Ruling Elders Congregations Christ is our only head King lawgiver Judg. Therefore neither Councels Synods nor any Independent Ministers or Congregations may prescribe any Laws covenants Orders or directions to us or exercise any jurisdiction
eclesiasticall over us or passe any censures upon us but only Christ himselfe Brother if such Antimonarchicall Antiparliamentall and Anarchicall Logicke and Divinity be ever taught and beleeved in the world which cutts asunder the nerues and dissolves the very foundation of all Governments and Relations whatsoever whether naturall civill or Ecclesiasticall what an horrible confusion will be immediatly produced to the utter distruction of all Kingdomes Republiques Churches Families Societies Corporations in the World let all prudent men Judge Yet this is the dangerous Logicke this the Foundation stone whereon your whole Independent fabrick is built the absurdities and ill consequences whereof I trust all will now at last discerne Secondly I answer That though Christ be the only King and supream Law-giver of his Church yet it followes not thence that therfore no Parliament or humane power may or can make Lawes to order or governe the Churches and people of God by but onely Christ For Brother your selfe will grant 1. That Parliaments Kings and Synods may and ought to make Lawes to supposse and punish all manner of Idolatry superstition Impietie prophanenesses corruptions Heresies Doctrines Opinions and exorbitances whatsoever in their Churches Ministers people that are contrary to the Word of God the Lawes Doctrine Government of Christ or tending to the depravation disturbance or prejudice of the Church and Gospell Secondly they may publish Lawes and Canons to settle and establish the true Confession of the Christian saith the sincere Ordinances of God and such a true worship Church-Government and Discipline which is most consonant to his Word throughout all Churches in their respective jurisdictions yea compell Ministers to doe their duties and people diligently to repaire to all the Ordinances of God to sanctifie the Lords day and to observe extraordinary dayes of humiliation and thanksgiving upon extraordinary occasions Thirdly They may enact Lawes and Ordinances to settle the places and times of publike Worship and all necessary circumstances w ch concern the same not peremptorily determined in the Scriptures concerning Church assemblies Fourthly They may enact Laws for the maintenance of Ministers of all necessary Church Officers and for prayer preaching reading the Word administring receaving the Lords Supper concerning ordination Mariage siging fasting excommunication agreeable to the Word of God This I presume all will grant and my Brother will not deny which is all I contend for Therfore Christs being the only King Head Ruler and Lawgiver of his Church is no impediment to Kings Parliaments by advise of Synods to enact such Lawes as these and so the Argument a meere Independent Nonsequitur Thirdly Christ is the King Lord Head and Lawgiver of every private Christian or Member of a Congregation as well as of every particular or of the whole Catholik Church and so by your determination he is subject to no other jurisdiction then that of Christ his Spirit and Word Yet I hope you will grant that every Independent Congregation hath a true jurisdiction and power over every particular member of it yea a legislative power to prescribe a speciall covenant and such Ecclesiasticall Rules Orders as the whole Congregation shall thinke meet to which they must submit under paine of excommunication suspension Non-communion and denying baptisme to their Infants as you plainly intimate pag. 44. 45 46 62 63. Therefore these titles and Prerogatives of Christ doe not deprive particular Churches of the power of prescribing covenants Orders Rules and Canons to their Members much lesse then whole Synods Councells Parliaments of farre greater wisdom power Authority then particular Churches And if private Churches may thus oblige their Members then much more may Parliaments Councells all particular Churches within their jurisdictions And so much in answer of this grand argument The second is this Christ is the full and sole King raigning in the heart and conscience of every true Beleever He only is King over every mans Conscience so as no man nor power on earth may sit with him in this his Throne Therefore no Parliament Councell nor human power may prescribe Laws for the Government or ordering of the Church for then of necessity man should be Lord over the Conscience which is the highest presumption against the most high I answer That this argument is grounded upon a very sandy foundation and upon this controversed question both among Divines and Casuists Whether Ecclesiasticall or Civill human Laws made and ratified by the supreame civill Magistrates Parliament bind necessarily oblige us to obedience in point of conscience in case they be not contrary to Gods Word for if they be all grant they do not bind to obedience in point of Conscience My Brother here holds the Negative as an indisputable Maxime That these Laws bind not the conscience in point of Obedience to them A very dangerous false unsound Position tending to meere Anarchy and contempt of all humane Lawes and lawfull Authority in Church or State And for my own part I clearely hold the Affirmative to be an undoubted truth This question is largly debated and held affirmatively by learned Paraeus Explicatio Dubiorum in c. 13. ad Romanos Dubium 7. pag. 1413. to 1446. by Musculus Peter Martyr Marlorat and Doctor Willet in their Commentaries on Rom. 13 with other Protestants on this Text by Ursinus in Exposit secundi Praecepti p. 299. by Theodoret Ambrose Beda Anselme and generally most ancient and modern Commentators on that Text by Alexander Alensis Summa Theologiae Pars. 2. qu 120. Artic 2. 3 4. with whom all other Shoolemen generally concurre Paulus Windek Canonum Legum Consensus Dissensus cap. 4. p. 12. Stapleton in Antid p. 783. Bellarmine l. 3. c. 9. De Laicis Pererius Disp 2. Num. 8. by Saint Augustine in Epist 54. ad Macedonium and in Tit. Psal 70. by Saint Bernard Tract de Praecepto Dispensat With infinite others Indeed Master Calvin Instit lib. 3. c. 9. Sect. 15. 18. and lib. 4. c. 10. Sect. 3. 4 5. Beza in Notis ad Rom. 13. Sibrandus De Pontif Romano l. 8. c. 7. and some others seemingly hold the contrary yet not generally of all but of some particular humane Lawes I shall briefly lay downe the truth of the affirmative part out of Pareus and Doctor Willet in these insuing Propositions and then propound the Affirmative and answer the Negative arguments in their Order to vindicate this truth now most opposed when it is most necessary both to be discovered and obeyed The Propositions are these That all just Civill Ecclesiasticall or Oeconomicall Laws and Ordinances made by the King and Parliament or by lawfull Magistrates Parents Masters Tutors Superiors which concerne the duties of the first or second Table do bind the Conscience of themselves and that simply both in generall and particular That all good Laws made for the determining of any necessary circumstances of Gods Worship or necessary and profitable for
breach of Gods Laws with temporall punishments yet by this Gods Lawes become not temporall and unobligatory to the conscience So God on the other side may and doth 〈◊〉 the violation of just humane Lawes with spirituall and eternall punishments Majestrates being but his Vicegerents Deputies and the contempt of their just Lawes a contempt of God himselfe Therefore the Argument holds not The 5th Objection is this that the conscience only respects God therefore nothing can binde it but Gods owne Law which is spirituall I Answer That the conscience respects as well men as God Act. 24. 16 therefore the just Lawes of men as I have proved as well as of God 2ly The conscience looks upon the just Laws and precepts of men not meerly as human Lawes but as proceeding from the Ministers and Vicegerents of God himselfe whom they represent and whom God himselfe frequently enjoynes us to obey The 6th Is this No one man and by consequence not all mens consciences in the world may or can Iudge another mans conscience who standeth or falleth 〈◊〉 his owne Master Rom. 14. 4. 16. Ergo they cannot make Lawes to binde the conscience I Answer first that this text speakes only of privat Christians Judging one another in things indifferent as meates holy dayes c. when and where there is neither law of God nor man inhibiting the free use or refusall of them at the whole Chapter manifests Therefore it makes nothing against necessary ecclesiasticalâ— Laws Canons obliging men to obedience even in point of conscience 2ly The Apostle expresly concludes in this very Chap. v. 14. to 23. That in case of giving scandal and offence to weak Brethren we ought to abstaine from the very use of lawful indifferent things even out of conscience of the scandall hurt don thereby not simply of the things themselves though there be no law of God or man restraining or altering the indifferency or lawfulnes thereof that without any impeachment of Christian liberty Therefore when necessary or convenient things meerly indifferent in their nature are enjoyned by Superiors just Laws or inconvenient indifferent things prohibited for the publick good or peace they ought much more to be submitted to without impeachment of christian liberty out of Conscience of the Law and scandall which would follow the volation thereof and in obedience to the generall Law of God which commands obedience to such Lawes The 7. Objection is this There is one Lawgiver which is able to save and to destroy to wit Godâ— who art thou that judgest another Iam. 4. 12. Ergo none can make laws to bind the conscience but God I answer 1. that there is but one supream absolut Lawgiver which is God Is 33. 2. wch excluds not subordinat ones 2ly The Apostle saith not that there is ONLY one law-giver that can save and destroy neither will the words infallibly conclude there is but one such since humane law-givers can make Lawes to save or destroy the lives bodyes and Estates of men as appeares by Scripture and the Lawes of all Nations though not their Soules as they are meare humane Lawes but only collaterally as the wilful contempts and violations of them are sins breaches of the very law of God prescribing obedience to those Lawes in which sence they may secondarily destroy the very soules of men Thirdly This Text takes not away the power of making necessary tempâ—rall or Ecclesiasticall Laws for then no such Lawes could possibly be made by any But the meaning of the Apostle is this That onely God the Supreame Law-giver is able by his Law to make any indifferent lawfull thing necessary or unlawfull in it selfe in point of Religion or conscience and to change the meere indifferency of it into a thing simply good or evil and not humane Law-givers Therefore we should not judge or condemne one another in the use or neglect of those things which God himselfe hath left indifferent where there is no circumstance of scandall or contempt of humane Lawes to engage us to use or not to use them But it reacheth not to such humane Lawes Civill or Ecclesiasticall which command or prohibit things agreeable to the rules of Gods Word or things necessary and expedient for Order Decency Peace avoyding of scandall and other mischiefes which Lawes as Doctor Willet himselfe who makes this objection affirmes do binde the conscience notwithstanding this objected Text. And thus much for my Brothers first generall Objection His second is this That the Scripture holds forth and Christ in the New-Testament presoribes and layes down unto us but ONLY ONE and that a most compleat and exact forme of Church government and Discipline which ought not to be altered or varied from in the least title being a part of the Gospel and must be BUT ONE and THE SAME in all Nations Churches in all ages throughout the World precisely observed by all Churches without the least variation That the Independent way alone is this divine unalterable Evangelicall platforme Therefore nor King nor Parliament though assisted with a Synod of most pious and learned orthodox Divines justly may or can of right make any Ecclesiasticall binding Lawes for the government or Discipline of the Churches of Christ within their Jurisdictions it being indeed a meere adding to the Word of God prohibited under a curse Deut. 4. 2. c. 12. 22. Prov. 30. 6. Rev. 22. 18 19. Thus my deare Brother and other Independents Argue with more confidence than evidence of Scripture To which I answer first That though Christ and his Apostles have instituted in the Gospel all necessary Church-Officers as Evangelical Bishops Elders Ministers Deacons Pastors Teachers c. and likewise given some general rules for the Government and Discipline of his Church yet he hath neither instituted nor prescribed any such unalterable compleat exact forme of Church-government and Discipline in all ages and Churches in the New Testament as is pretended by many not evidenced by any My reasons are these First Because no such exact and punctuall platforme is or can be clearly demonstrated to us nor discovered by us in the Scripture upon most diligent scrutiny Quod non lego non credo hath alwayes been reputed a solid Argument in matters of Divinity and divine institutions The Apostle Heb. 7. 13. 14. argues thus negatively even in the point of Christs Priesthood because Moses spake nothing of the Tribe of Iudah concerning Priesthood And God himselfe argues thus Deut. 9. 12. 15. Ye saw no manner of similitude therefore ye shall make no likenesse or image of me I may safely argue negatively in like sort The Scripture speaks nothing of such an exact universall Platforme and we see no image or similitude of it in the Gospel Therefore there is no such Secondly Independents have been frequently pressed to shew us any such exactform of Church-government instituted and generally prescribed to all ages
Churches in the Bible yet none of them nor my dear Brother have hitherto been able to shew it though they have oft-times promised it Therefore we presume there is no such Shew us but some cleare Texts to manifest it and we will believe you without more dispute till then though you were Angels from Heaven we dare not credit you without a word to build on 3ly Because some Independents themselves one Anonymous who hath published a malicious Answer to me full of virulency against Presbytery the Scots positively deny any such universall platforme concurring fully with me in opinion Fourthly Because the Churches of God ever since the Apostles dayes have in severall Nations Republikes States and Conditions had different formes of Government Discipline Ceremonies administrations in some particulars as the Independent Congregations of Brownists Anabaptists Familists c. differ in sundry things of moment among themselves and yet have ever beene reputed true Churches of Christ The Churches of England Scotland France Geneva Germany Aethiopia Russia Greece Bohemia and the Netherlands vary one from another in their Government Discipline Rites Ceremonies in some points of Doctrine and are not Independent yet none of our Brethren I suppose will be so uncharitable as to deem them all Antichristian opposers of the Kingdome and Government of Christ and no true Churches as they must of necessity be if Church-government be a part of the Gospel one uniform unalterable Government universally prescribed to them all Fiftly Because the Gospel never intended to subvert diminish crosse or destroy the lawfull civill politicall Governments Lawes Customes of Kingdomes Nations Republikes which are Gods own Ordinance as well as Churchgovernment since one Ordinance of God doth not crosse or thwart another Now the lawfull Governments Customes Manners of most Nations Kingdoms Republiks being various different one from another the Gospel to be equally preached to them all some Church-government erected among them all and the condition of the Church whiles militant in this world being as full of changes as the Moone sometimes tossed with the boysterous waves almost drowned in the flouds of affliction Sometimes totally ecelipsed and driven into the wildernesse in one place yet slourishing or lesse troubled in another Othertimes in a prosperous peaceable condition Sometimes under Pagan or impious Princes and Magistrates other whiles under more or lesse pious Christian Kings and Governours sometimes in a more pure light some otherwhiles in a more corrupt ignorant condition Sometimes over-growne with haeresies schismes Innovations other-times holding forth the truth more clearly and purging out of all errors sometimes requiring a more sharpe and rigorous Discipline other-times a more milde and gentle Yea some Nations being more barbarous fierce obstinat vitious proner to some kinde of vices sins corruptions then others and so needing a Discipline Government somewhat discrepant from those who are more civell and ingenious Some using one gesture of prayer adoration administring the Sacrament some another as some bowing others kneeling others prostration some knocking of the breasts some bare-headed others covered some vayled others unvayled some sitting at the Lords Supper in one manner others in another Some kneeling others standing some using dipping others sprinkling others washing in baptisme some one kinde of tongue tone tune gesture in singing Preaching Praying others another which is all I meant in my first and second Queries by the manners and customes of the people which my deare Brother mis-interprets as meant of their superstitious and corrupt customes not their civill which I onely intended Some one forme of Temples Churches Tables Pulpits Chalices Vestments others another and all Nations not having the selfe-same opinion judgement of the lawfulnes or conveniency of one sort of Church-government as of another I conceive there was a kinde of necessity under the Gospel of leaving divets things in Church-government and Discipline more indeffinite and arbittary then under the Leviticall Law given onely to the Iewish Nation and that not for perperuity but till the Gospel came which see them free from that yoake of bondage and left them and all other beleevers at greater liberty than before This I conceive to be the true reason why there is no such precise universall set forme of Church-government and Discipline punctually preseâ—bed without the least variation to all Nations Churches in the New Testament as you say was to the Israelites in the old 6ly The Government and Discipline of the Churches of Christ hath bin alwayes more or lesse variable in every age and never continued uniforme constant unalterable in any age as the fundamentall Doctrines of the Church have done We are able to produce Professors of the Doctrines maintained in the Protestant Churches in all ages the Doctrine of the Gospel being universally the same and unalterable But no creature is able to demonstrate a succession of any one kind of Church-government discipline in all ages or Churches be it Presbyteriall Episcopall or mixt of both much lesse any series of Independent Churches Therefore certainly there is no such universall divine set forme of Church-government and Discipline essentiall to the being of a true Church prescribed in the Scriptures as some have fancied for then it would have had a being in some part or other of the world in all ages as well as the Doctrine of the Gospel and the Sacraments 7ly All Independents reach that there is no set forme of publick Prayer Liturgy preaching administring the sacrament in every particular nor yet of the matter or fashion of Churches Tables Chancels Vestments Gestures of Worship prescribed to all Churches Nations in all ages without variation yea they reject all set formes of publike Prayers administration of the Sacraments and Liturgies in Churches as Antichristian unlawfull or unexpedient at the least though they can hardly prove them such If then there be no set forme of publique Prayers Liturgy Preaching administring the Sacraments c. prescribed to all Churches in al ages without any variation and every Minister be 〈◊〉 at large to use his owne Method and manner of Praying Preaching administring the Sacraments Chatechising as Independents affirme provided it be generally consonant to the word Let them render me a solid reason if they can why there should be only one universall unalterable divineforme of Church-Government and Discipline precisely imposed on all Churches Nations ages alike without the least variation else they must of necessity grant as great a liberty and indefinitenes in the one as other and that there may be as many different formes of Church-Government and Discipline as of preaching praying Singing of Psalmes administring the Sacraments c. provided they be all decent agreeable to the generall rules of Scripture though not particularly prescribed therin 8ly All grant there is no immutable universall set forme of Civill Government prescribed to all Nations Republickes Cities Families Christian or Ethenicall 〈◊〉 they have a
liberty left them to elect what civil government they by publique consent shall deem most convenient provided it be generally agreeable to Gods Word which hath prescribed generall rules applicable to all civill Governments actions as well as Ecclesiasticall and spirituall though no one Government in particular And why the Government of the CHVRCH MILITANT should be more particularly uniformly unalterably said down in scripture then the Government of Christian Kingdoms Nations states under the Gospel which leaves both of them equally undetermined since both of them were alike limited among the Israelites under the Law no rational man cangive any solid reason Christ being King of Kings Lord of Lords yea a great King over all the Earth the only Potentate and Lord of Kingdoms Nations Republiques and of mens bodyes estates as well as KING and Lord of his Church Saints or of mens soules and consciences 9ly There was not only one uniforme Church-government at first under the Gospell in all Churches no not in the Apostles times for in the originall gathering and planting of the Christian Churches they had at first only Apostles Brethren no Elders or Deacons After that their Churches increasing they proceeded to elect ordain Deacons in the Churches of Ierusalem and afterwards some other Churches though not in all for ought we read Not long after the Apostls ordained Elders in Churches which had none at first after that Widowes in some Churches not in all In the primitive Churches some Congregations had Apostle s Evangelists Prophets workers of miracles Healers by miraculous extraordinary gifts of healing men endued with diversities of Tongues Interpretation of Tongues GOVERNMENTS that is men gifted with an extraordinary faculty of Governing Churches all which the Scriptures many Divines distinguish Other Churches at that time had none of these Officers or members and all Churches have beene deprived of them since those dayes these Officers not being perpetuall but temporary as all acknowledge though Christ might have continued a succession of them still had he pleased Therefore the Government and Officers of all Churches not being de facto one and the selfesame in all particulars in the very Primitive times as well as since it can never be proved to be of divine right but one the sel same in al succeeding ages without the least variation since it was not so in the Apostles days 10ly The Apostles speech 1. Cor. 12. 4 5. 6. c. There are diversities of gifts but the same spirit and there are differences of administrations but the same Lord and there are diversities of operations but the same God which worketh all in all compared with v. 8. to 13. ch 9. v. 19. to 24. I made my selfe servant unto all that I might gaine all And unto the Jew I became as a Jew that I might gaine the Jew to them that are under the Law as under the Law that I might gaine the Jew to them that are under the Law To them that are without Law as without Law that I might gaine them that are without Law To the weake I became as weake that I might gaine the weake I am made all things to all men that I might by all meanes save some paralleld with Acts 15. 1. 2. 5. 6. to 32. Ch. 21. 18. to 30. by which it is evident that many Churches of the Iewes and those in Jerusalem did still rotain the use of Circumâ—ition purification other Iewish Rites Ceremonies which the Churches of the Gentiles by the Apostles owne resolutions WERE NOT TO OBSERUE And with Acts c. 2. to cap. 22. where it expresly appeares that the Apostles and other Christians equally frequented the Iewish Temple Synagogues conforming themselves to the Orders discipline thereof and their owne private Assemblie Cougregations consisting all of professed Christians Wil expresly clear it that all particular Churches Congregations in the Apostles times had not one and the selfe same Church-government Orders Ceremonies Therefore it is most cleare there is no such uniforme general government or discipline necessarily prescribed in the Gospel unto al without the least variation as is objected Eleventhly It must be granted to me till disproved that before the Law from Adams Creation till Moses there was no one universall set forme of Church Government and discipline enjoyned to be observed by all the world from which none might vary in any particular That under the Law it selfe there was one forme of Government Worship Discipline Ceremonies and Solemnities to be observed in the Wildernesse another in the Lind of Canaan One forme in and under the Tabernacle revealed by God described by Moses another in and under the Temple shewed by God and appointed by David and Salomon Yea the second Temple and its Ornaments services differed somwhat from the first and all of them expired when the Gospell came If then there were no one universall constant forme of Church-Government Discipline before and under the Law it selfe then by parity of reason till direct Scripture proofes be produced to the contraty there neither is nor can be any such under the Gospell Twelfthly The Scripture as all must acknowledge gives not many particular but mostly generall Rules for the Government and regulating of our thoughts words actions lives Children Servants Families callings the fashion of our apparell gestures eating drinking sleep c. Yea the promises and threatnings in it are for the most part generall and indefinite yet applyable to every particular person and occasion If then there be for the most part only generall Rules precepts which admit some Latitude and variety in particulars prescribed to us for the very ordering and regulating of our thoughts words actions lives apparell meat drinke c. Then certainely there are but generall Rules and Precepts given us for the Government Discipline of the Churches which admit varieties of Government discipline in sundry particulars so as they agree in the generall with the Word and bee not repugnant to it as well as the generall Rules for regulating our words thoughts actions conversations callings apparell meat drinke and family Governments admit of variety which more immediately concerne every man then the more remote and generall Government of the Church But against this my Brother Burton Objects 1. That God in the Old Testament did give this charge to Moses See that thou doe all things according to the patterne shewed thee in the Mount Hee must not vary ONE PIN And when the Temple was built God was so exact in this that he would not leave it to David himselfe though both a King and a Prophet and a man after Gods owne heart to set up what worship he pleased in the Temple but God gave him an exact patterne of all and that not only by his Spirit but in writing that he might neither adde to nor omit IN THE LEAST TITLE 1 Chron. 28. And it was never left
to the Kings of Judah to doe the least thing in point of Reformation but onely to see that the Priests doe all strictly according to the prescript rule of the Law 2 Chron. 31. Now was the great Law-giver so strict under the Old Testament and is hee growne over remisse under the New In Ezechiels vision of the Temple or Church under the Gospell Ezechiell 43. 10 11. Wee read of a patterne of every particular thing belonging to the House of God exactly set downe and measured by Gods speciall rule and direction Ergo There is a most exact rule set down for the Government of all Churches under the Gospell in all particulars even to a Pin from which they must not vary in the least point or title Else a sluce would be opened to drowne the whole world in supestition and error I have elsewhere given a full answer to this common objection and manifested the absurdity of it to which my Brother hath not given the least reply and because much insisted on I shall once againe answer it here with some additions My Brothers first Argument from the premises if turned into a logicall forme is this God in the Old Testament shewed and prescribed to Moses in the Mount an exact patterne of the Tabernacle and its implements from which hee must not vary in one Pin or Title Ergo He hath prescribed an exact uniforme universall modell of Church-Government and Discipline under the Gospell for all Churches Nations Ages whatsoever from which they must not vary in the least Pin or Title What an Independent argument this is will appeare First by considering that the Tabernacle as all well know was no part of the Congregation or living Church of the Israelites made up onely of Circumcised persons of which our present controversie concerning Church-Government is meant but only the place wherein the Israelites met to Worship God during their Pilgrimage in the Wildernesse which Tabernacle ceased when the Temple was built and the Arke placed therein it being in truth nought else but a materiall moveable Temple answerable to our Churches Chappell 's and places of publike meeting for Gods Worship now but only in its moveablenesse The like may be said of Salomons materiall Temple what Argument can then be deduced thence to prove such an exact forme of Church Government setled under the Gospell as is objected I can not conjecture Brother I beseech you tell me in good earnest what you think of these following Arguments which may be retorted on you from this patterne with far more probability and reason then this objected First God in the old Testament prescribed the height length breadth compasse form and materials of which the Tabernacle Arke Altar Curtaines Candlesticks Sockets Rings Staves and every pin vessell utensill belonging to the Tabernacle should be made and expressed the same most punctually in writing commanding Moses to make all of them according to the patterne shewed him and not to vary in one Pinne as you may read Exod. cap. 25. to c. 40. Ergo Christ in the New-Testament hath a punctually prescribed to all Christians nations in as direct words the expresse form matter dimensions portraiture of all Christian Churches Temples Chappell 's and all Tables Chalices Pulpits Pues with other Appurtenances to them belonging from which they must not vary in one pin or title Secondly God in the Old Testament appointed particularly and by name who should build the Tabernacle and make all the Implements surâ—ure there belonging and appointed by name Bâ—zaliel and Aholiah to be the chiefe workmen And every wisehearted man and cunning Artificer imployed in this building this Architecture whom God himselfe endued with speciall skill wisdome and ability for this work not any Priest or Levite Exod. 31. 1. to 10. chap. 35 30. to 31. c. 36. 1. 2 3. c. c. 37. to 40. Ergo none but those Artificers whom God doth immediately name and endow with extraordinary gifts from Heaven None but Embroyderers Gold-Smiths Carpenters Ioyners Carvers Masons not Ministers Presbyters Deacons or Evangelicall Pastors must under the Gospell build up the spirituall Churches of Christ and settle the true Government and Discipline thereof Thirdly The very frame fashion Colour and materialls of the holy Garments which Aron and his Sons should weare when they came to minister before the Lord were expresly set downe and the use of them enjoyned under paine of death in the Old Testament and were a part of the patterne shewed to MOSES in the Mount from which hee might not vary in one Pin or Title Exodus c. 28. and 29. and 39. and 40. Ergo The very forme fashion matter and coulour of all Ministers Elders Deacons Garments in which they should minister is as punctually prescribed and limited under like penalties in the Gospell from which they must not vary Fourthly The Tabernacle and Temple too under the Law were made and built by the hands of men and were onely corporall not spirituall buildings in the spirits of men Ergo the Church under the Gospell is such to And then what will becom of your strange determinations p. 49. 50. That the Church is a spirituall house whose ONLY BUILDER is Christ and NOT MAN c. Fourthly This patterne in the Mount was shewed and delivered by god only to Moses the Temporall Magistrate not to Aaron or the Priests and he was to make and see all things made according to this patterne without the least variation by the helpe of Bezaliel and other lay-Artificers Ergo the framing setling of Church-government Discipline under the Gospell belongs wholly or principally to the supreame temporall Majestrates and to such Lay Artificers as they shall please to take to their assistance Not to Bishops Presbyters Ministers or any Ecclesiasticall persons Brother If you grant all these foure Arguments absurd false or incoherent as I presume you will then by the selfe same reason your owne Argument must much more be so And therefore I beseech you now at last to consider on what false sandy ground and absurd Inconsequencies your Independent Churches are built Secondly I pray inform me Brother if you are able If there be such an exact apparent unalterable forme of Church-government prescribed under the Gospell as there was of the Tabernacle Altar Temple in the Old in all particulars why the one is not as clearely and punctually set downe without any obscurity in the New Testament as the other is in the Old If you can shew us any such unalterable forme intirely delineated all together in precise direct termes in the one as we can shew you to in the other the controversie would bee ended without more dispute But since this cannot bee done and your selfe confesse in your Margin p. 6. which contradicts and subverts your Text We doe not say the same things are prescribed under the Gospell NOR DOTH IT COME TO SUCH CIRCUMSTANTIALS but we say and I say so to what it prescribeth â—s to
Patterns deduced his Assize of surplesses and paterne of the new Altars Rules c. prescribed to be enquired of in his Visitation Articles But I hope my deare Brother can not spie out any such vision nor deduce any such conclusion from this Text nor from that of measuring the Temple Altar in the Revelation which I have elswhere answered and shall here omit The 4th Argument from Dutr. 4. 2. c. 12. 31. Proverb 30. 6. Reu. 22. 19. That God hath prohibited any addition to the Booke of sacred Scripture under a plague and heavy punishment Ergo there is a set forme of Church-government and discipline prescribed in the Gospell which none may vary from by addition or diminuition Is a meere Non-sequitur For first these Texts speake only of Additions to the Bookes Doctrine Histories Prophesies of the Canonicall Scriptures then written as my Brother acknowledgeth and the Texts infallibly prove not of any Church-government Discipline Ceremonies under the Gospell not so much as mentioned or imagined in them Therefore Brother you doe very ill for to wrest these Scriptures thus against their sence and meaning 2ly Brother you know that God himselfe after the writing of the Booke of Deuteronomie the Proveths caused divers other Bookes of Canonicall Scriptures in the old and the whole New Testament to be written for the further benefit and Instruction of his Church Yea many Additions were made to the service of God in the Temple not mentioned by Moses without infringing these Texts therefore your citing of them without any limitation is very impertinent 3ly I feare Brother that those who hold there is an absolute set forme of Church-goverment prescribed in the word to all Churches though they cannot shew it and yet cry up their Independent way as the very Government discipline Kingdome and Ordinance of Christ himselfe though they neither prove nor demonstrate it are far more guilty of this sinne of transegressing these texts by Adding to Gods word then those who deny it are of adding to or detracting from it Take heed therefore I pray of this sin your selfe which you would fasten upon others You know who are most guilty of this vaâ—ting cry The Temple of the Lord the Temple of the Lord the Temple of the Lord are these when yet they were but lying words which party boastes most of the Divinity of their way your whole Book sursets of this in every Page without one solid text to warrant what you so frequently over-confidently affirme Wherefore this Argument returns wholy on your self My Brothers 3. Objection is from the 1 Cor. 7. 17. So ordaine I in all Churches 1. Cor. 16. 1. Now concerning the collection the Saints as I have given order to the Churches of Galatia SO ALSO DO YE Every first day of the weeke or some one day of the weeke or weekly as some translate and the phrase will beare it let every one of you lay BY HIMSELFE in store as God hath prospered him that there be no gatherings when I come Act 14. 25. And when they had ordained them Elders in EVERY CHVRCH From which Authorities only and no other in the New Testament he inferrs That there is but ONE and the selfe same forme of Churchgovernment and Discipline prescribed to all Churches in the world in all ages without the least liberty of varying one from another or from the forme pretended to be thus prescribed But deare Brother what will you say if none of these Scriptures prove any such conclusion but the contrary have you not then injured the Readers and truth hereby Heare then how you are mistaken in them The question you know is not concerning Precepts Doctrines or Rules of faith which are the selfe same to all Persons Churches Ages and binde all alike but only of Church-Government disciplin But hath your first and principall text any relation thereunto No verily but to a meere privat case of conscience then undescided Whether a beleeving Wife might depart from an unbeleeving Husband or a beleeving Husband from an unbeleeving wife without mutuall consent if the unbeleever were willing to cohabit with the other This was the case of conscience then in question at Corinth and propounded specially to the Apostle to whom they Wrote for resolution v. 1. To this the Apostle gives a final desciton in the negative shewing sundry reasons for it v. 10. to 16. then v. 17. he concludes As the Lord hath called every one so let him walke AND SO ORDAINI IN AL CHVRCHES Now what Brother is this private case of conscience to one set forme of Church Disciplin or Government doth the Apostle say that this he ordained to be the very same in all Churches no verily there is no such mention or intention in the Text or Chapter so that the true deduction from hence will be but this absurd Nonsequitur The Apostle by the determination of Gods spirit ordained in every Church that Beleeving Wives or Husbands should not forsake their unbeleeving Consorts if they desired to cohabit with them Ergo he ordained one and the selfe-same unalterable set forme of Church-government and Discipline in all Churches whatsoever Your 2d text makes cleane against you For first the Apostle 1. Cor. 16. 1. 2. doth not say that he gave order for a collection in all Churches alike but only in the Churches of Galatia and there were many Churches else besides them Therefore this extends only to particular Churches not to all And so no proofe of any one universall Government of Discipline prescribed alike to all Secondly It was an order only upon a particular emergent transient occasion which might seldome or never happen againe to wit The present necessity of the Saints at Ierusalem in respect of a dearth and famine there To argue therefore an universall standing Church-government and Discipline from a particular transient occasion not permanent and lasting but contingent and temporany for this particular time and occasion only is very incongruous Thirdly The Apostle here prescribed no publique duty relating to Church-government or Discipline nor yet to be performed in the open Congregation for then there might have beene some vigor in the Text but but only a voluntary preparatory benevolence to be weekly laide apart in private according to Gods blessing on every mans estates as is cleane by the words Vpon the first day of the Week or wekely Let every one of you lay a part BY HIMSELFE not contribute publiquely in the Church in store as God hath prospered him that so there may be no collections when I come Therefore this Action hath no relation at all to Church-government Discipline or ought to be done publikly in the Church Fourthly This collection and the maner of it for every man to lay aside by himselfe some thing weekely according as God hath prospered him was only a preparatory extraordinary collection as the last clause that there may be
things to make good his Argument 1. That if there were no other particular Church in the world then one as that of Abrahams family should it not be a compleat Church untill there were other Churches on whose jurisdiction it should depend I answer yes But this is not the case nor question We in our Realme blessed be God have in all parts not only one particular christian family church but many thousand Parochiall Churches Congregations as our very Almanacks as well as Cosmographers will informe you What then Brother will you inferre from this sole Church in Abrahams family to our Churches now Will you argue Abraham in his dayes had a compleat absolute Independent Church in his own family onely Ergo now there ought to be such an Independent absolute Church in every family at least where there is a sufficient number requisite to make up a ministeriall body as you interpret it what then will become of your congregationall Churches and our Parochial consisting of many great families they must by this new Doctrine divide themselves presently into so many families or Independent Churches as there are great families in them and then I hope the Master of the family onely not an Independent Minister must be their Paster and Ruler as Abraham was in his and then farewell the office of Minister which some of your Lay Elders exercise without scruple denying the very calling of Ministers and all our Churches too Brother will you argue thus Adam was a compleat and absolute man alone therefore he needed not a helper or wife or family to be joyned to him Suppose you should take a single person who formerly lived alone by and of himselfe without relation to or communion with any other men like a Popish Hermite or Anchorite into your family Church or incorporate him into this City or any company in it will you say that because this man was absolute and under no command at first Ergo he must continue so still in your family Church this City and his company and neither you nor any of them may or can of right enact any thing to controle him I trow not When there were only single Families living remote from others in the world they were absolute and compleate Churches Republikes of themselves but when these single families multiplyed and combined themselves into Villages Cities Provinces Republikes Kingdomes they thereby lost their pristine liberty absolutenesse independencie compleatnesse and of intire small bodies Churches Republikes became onely parts and members of those larger ones to which they were thus combined So it is with particular Mother Churches when there was but one particular Church in the world or in one State or Kingdome the case of all the first Churches planted by the Apostles without any Neighbour Churches to combine with this Church being under no superiour Christian Magistrates was absolute and independent in it selfe there being no other Church to joyne with But if this one Church through the encrease of Christians shall swell so great as to spread it selfe over all the City or Republike wherein it is and so upon necessity must divide it selfe into sundry particular Congregations then all these Churches being under one and the selfe-same Republike and united together under one supreame Civill Magistrate as members of the same Nation Kingdom City Republike and of the self-same nationall or Provinciall Church doe thereupon lose their absolutenes and Independency and become subject to the Power Lawes Canons Determinations Government and Discipline of the whole Nationall Church and Kingdome of which they are but members which to preserve publike peace unity order amity ought constantly to be governed by the self-same generall Ecclesiasticall Lawes setled by the common consent of all their severall National Synods and Parliaments as Civill Lawes are which oblige all But this saith my Brother in the second place takes away the lawfull Jurisdiction and rights of particular Churches Ergo it is not to be admitted I answer first By the like reason you may argue the joyning of many particular persons into one family of divers families into one Parish of sundry Parishes into one City of divers Citie into one State of sundry States and Kingdomes into one Monarchy or Empire of divers Companies and Regiments into one Army of sundry Knights Citizens Burgessâ—â— and Peeres into one Parliament and many Ministers into one Synod deprives them of their Independency their particular Rights Interests and subjects them to a new superiour power Iurisdiction command and to their publicke Lawes and Ordinances Ergo it is unlawfull intollerable and such Corporations Republicks Kingdomes Empires Parliaments Synods ought not to be If this be a good consequence you will subvert all humane Societies Corporations Republicks Synods Parliaments Independent Churches and Families to by like reason â— This takes not away the lawfull rights of particular Congregations but rather improves them for their owne particular and the publick good for Brother I pray informe me which is best of the two for a particular Church or Corporation to be subject only to such Lawes Rules Government and Discipline as shall be made decreed declared most agreeable to the Word of God and fit to be generally received in all Churches by an whole Parliament and Assembly of the most wise ablest and best experienced Christians Nobles Divines after long debate and consideration or by the private rash Opinions and perchance passions humours of two or three private persons perhaps directed swayed by particuler interests relations ends Which is justest safest or most remote from Tyrannicall Arbitrary and Papall Government for Churches States Persons to be all confined to certaine publicke Lawes and Canons enacted by common consent in Parliament limiting who shall be admitted to who secluded from the Congregation Sacrament communion of Saints c. and for what causes offences in certaine c. then to be left Arbitrary to the meer mercy wills determinations of the Ministers and Elders of every particular Congregation or to the pleasures of Princes or some few temporall Magistrates without any Lawes or limits to restrain them We all hold it the greatest happinesse freedome of our Kingdom and the chiefest part of our Priviledge which we enjoy as free-men of England That we neither may nor can be legally bound by any Lawes Canons Taxes or Commands but only such as are made and imposed on us by full consent in Parliament and not subject to the meere Arbitrary Lawes Ordinances wills commands of our Princes Magistrates Iudges Prelates or any other private men And shall it be then held the slavery injury and not rather the liberty or priviledge of particular Churches and their members to be subject only to such Ecclesiasticall Rules Canons Orders Covenants Government and Discipline as shall be publickly agreed on consented to and setled in Parliament to which all Churches Christians shall be equally obliged without exemption then to be left at six and
Nationall Synod wherein these Churches are all combined hath no juridiction or legislative Authority over them nor any other particular congregation under their precincts A doughty Argument much like this in effect The Burrough of Westminster hath no jurisdiction nor power to make binding Lawes for the Burrough of Southwarke not the county of Kent for the county of Middlesex nor any one City County or Burrough in England power to prescribe Lawes to one another Ergo all these counties cities burroughs assembled in Parliament in their Knights and Burgesses have no power to make Lawes to bind any of them nor the Kingdome And what then becomes of our Parliaments Authority and legislative power if this kind of logick be admitted 4. My Brother other Independents generally grant that every Congregation may and ought to give an account of their actions censures proceedings and opinions to another private Church therefore they are not absolute nor simply Independent in regard of other particuler Churches much lesse then in respect of an whole Nationall Synod Parliament or Presbitery which reason others having largely prosecuted I shall but touch 5. I demand whether every particular Church or Congregation whatsoever be such an absolute compleat independent body in it selfe subject only unto Christ c. or only independent Churches and congregations If Independent only I pray shew your Magna Charta for such a peculier priviledge which no Churches else enjoy or challenge but onely yours If all particuler Churches enjoy this priviledge then marke the consequence Papists Arminians Anabaptists Sociniaas Antinomians Arrians Familists and as one Master Williams an Independent affirmes in Print Mahumetans Iewes and all the severall Sects of Religions in the world mustered up by Master Samuel Purchas in his Pilgrimage and Voyages must be absolute and Independent to nor may any Magistrates Parliament Synod make Lawes to regulate reclaime suppresse or punish them because they are subject to none but to Christ and accountable onely to him and their consciences free then every Sectary Schismaticke Hereticke what soever may gather and set up an Independent Church of three or foure families persons in a corner and neither King Parliament nor Presbiteries may question or suppresse them because they are immediatly subject to none but Christ Then persons questioned excommunicated by their congregations or such members of your Churches who either feare your censure or fall into any pett or humour against your Ministers Elders Government may set up a new Church of their owne and so avoyd both your jurisdiction and censures In one word this absurd Paradox would open a large guppe to all Errours Heresies all Sectaries Schismaticks impious practises and opinions without the least impunity restraint or meanes of reformation 6. This conceit derived onely from the Pope himself who claimes this priviledge that he is subject and accountable to none but Christ himselfe in spirituall things and is an Independent Church within himselfe as the Iesuites with others affirme makes every Independent Church or Minister a meere Pope subject and accomptable to Christ alone I beseech you therefore Deare Brother tell me how you can be said to renounce the Pope Popery Antichrist and abolish them out of our Realme to your utmost power according to your Vow and Covenant when as you banish onely one Pope and set up many in making every Independent Minister and Congregation a meer Antichristian Pope exalting it above all that is called God as immediately subiect to none but Christ My Brothers fifth Objection is That Christ should be very unfaithfull carelesse and leave his Church to six and seven if he had not prescribed as exact a Church Government and Discipline for it under the Law as under the Gospel And we should have a mad world he should say Church if it were left to Christian Princes Civill States or Parliaments to set up such a Church-government and Discipline as they should conceive were most suiteable to Gods Word and the Lawes and customes of the Realm and manners of their people I Answer 1. In generall In generall that this is onely words not proofes matters of fact as this now controverted is must be ever proved by reall visible demonstrations not farre-fetched inferences fancies probabilities suggestions or pretended inconveniences of our owne devising Therefore Brother trouble not the world any more with inferences or illustrations of what is not but produce some down-right Scripture proofes of what really is what Philip spake in one sence to our Saviour Shew us the Father and it sufficeth us I shall say to you shew us your Church-Government deliniated prescribed to all Churches in Scripture in all particulars wherein we differ and it shall suffice us but your Inferences from the Tabernacle Temple Ezechiels vision these objected inconveniences neither will nor can satisfie any man who hath any science conscience or reason to guide his choise 2. I answer That Christ hath not been so extreamly negligent or carelesse as to leave his Church under the Gospel at six and seven though he hath not been so exact in prescribing or establishing a set forme of Church-Government and Discipline under the Gospel as he was in the Old Testament in setting downe the patterne of the Tabernacle Arke Temple under the Law as you object For Brother your selfe acknowledge in your Margent pag. 5. 6. upon second thoughts that he hath not done it though you affirme the contrary in your Text Wil you I pray argue that Christ is more carelesse of his Church under the Gospel then under the Law because the manner and time of Circumcision eating the Passeover consecrating of Priests with all their accoutrements the forme of the Tabernacle Temple with all the Services Sacrifices thereto belonging are more exactly and particularly set downe and prescribed in the Old Testament then the manner time or forme of Baptisme administring and receiving the Lords Supper ordination of Ministers the model or fashion of our Churches and their necessary furniture are in the New or because the use of solemne Vowes and Covenants your great Diana the manner of solemnizing Fasts sanctifying the Sabbath Feastivalls Nationall Assemblies c. are more exactly delineated and prescribed in the Old Testament then the New Or which soares higher was Christ more carelesse of his Church before then under the Law because he gave them not the Law in writing as he did in after times or carelesse of the Church under the Law because he gave them not the Gospel then but Law alone Brother your self acknowledge that Christ hath left his Churches childrens consciences more free under the Gospel then they were under the Law exempting them from the Ceremoniall Law and all humane Ordinances to which they were formerly obliged Is he therefore carelesse or unfaithfull I beseech you Brother take heede how you cast dirt in Christs owne face by such strained inferences or charge your Brother with no lesse
then Heresie or hereticall Doctrin by such extravagant inferences and incoherent Arguments for fear you dishonour both your Master and your self 3. Though Christ hath left no absolute exact forme of Church-Government in Scripture for all Churches and Ages yet he hath left his Word to be a light to the feete and a Lanthorne to the pathes of all his Saints and Churches and said downe such generall Presidents rules and directions therein as may serve for ordering directing and regulating of all Churches herein yea he hath given us some more particular rules for some things which concerne the Government of his Churches The Scripture hath generall Rules for our faith life manners thoughts words actions apparell eating drinking praying preaching receiving the Sacrament c. applicable to all particular cases and occurrences concerning them though not particular punctuall rules for deciding all those cases of conscience and controversies that frequently arise concerning them yet Christ is not unfaithfull because he hath left his Church sufficient rules and meanes of salvation in generall or particular to bring it safe to heaven 4 The providing of godly and faithfull Ministers Magistrates and Governours of the Church to put good Laws Disciplin and Government in execution is a great part of Christs charge and care as well as providing his Word and a Government for his Church Will you charge Christ then with negligence and leaving his Church to six and seven because every Minister of Christ hath not the selfe-same measure of gifts and endowments to discharge his Ministery or because some Ministers are more negligent in their places then others and some sheep are left oft-times without a Shepheard or committed to a Iudas a Thiefe or to Wolveâ— false Teachers Seducers which teare and devoure instead of feeding them or because he set not up and maintained this forme of Church Government you now contend for as his and none else beside in all Churches for so many hundred yeares together but reserved this honour in this latter age to some of you or rather to the Anabaptists and Brownists your Predecessors herein to advance it Brother you may easily discerne by this where your owne pretended inconveniences and inferences will drive you at the last if you rely upon them I beseech you therefore as a loving Brother to forbeare them for the future 4. Whereas you object We should have a mad world of it if Civill States Magistrates Kings and Parliaments should set up such a Government 〈◊〉 they conceived to be agreeable to Gods Word and the good Lawes and Customes of their Realmes I answer 1. That it is your own position that every particular man and Church ought to walke according to the rule of their own consciences and judgement not anothers Christ only being Lord of their consciences If then a whole Kingdome Parliament Church or Realme shall conceive and be perswaded in their consciences that such and such a Church Government is most consonant to Gods Word most suiteable to their condition and therefore shall upon solemne debate after much seeking of God by Prayer and Fasting make choise of this government before another as by electing a Presbyteriall rejecting an Independent way What madnesse or inconvenience meer slavery tyranny humane invâ—ntions superstitions or corruption will this introduce Shall they be Hereticks presently for such a choise as you define them Shall private men have more liberty of choise or conscience then whole Nations Synods Parliaments or more wisedome temper knowledge discretion conscience then they Indeed I have read of one Parliament stiled the Mad and another the unlearned because there were no Lawyers in it and no doubt both Parliaments Councells Synods generall Assemblies may and doe sometimes erre and that grosly as well as private persons or congregations But doubtlesse all reasonable men will and must acknowledge that two are better then one a whole Court of Iustice lesse liable to errour and corruption then a particulâ—r Judge a whole Parliament then a Committee an whole Synod then a private Conventicle or congregation Then tell me in sober sadnesse good Brother whether your Independent Assertion That every particular Minister hath power to gather and set up a Church of his owne Independent from any other and to choose such a Discipline Government to themselves as they CONCEIVE to be most suiteable to Gods Word though in truth it be not so but a meer CONCEITE as I feare your New way is That particular Christians have power to unite themselves into a Church and elect a Minister and Government of their owne choise most agreeable as they thinke to the Word And that every Sect and Person ought to have free liberty of conscience in the exercise of what they beleeve Or my Position be likely est to produce more madnesse in the world or mischiefes in the Church Certainely it will be a madder world and Church too indeed when every private Minister and Christian may follow their owne opinions fancies crochets waies every Sectary set up his owne congregation sect and vent his owne erronious schismaticall Opinions without control when every man shall have priviledge to doe What seemes right in his owne eyes as if there were no King in Israel no Parliament in England when every Anabaptist Enthusiast or brainsick Melancholico shall not only build Churches in the ayre different from all others but set them up openly in our Cities Counties Kingdomes without impediment in contempt of Lawes Parliaments all Civill or Ecclesiasticall Authority as too many I feare doe now and I hope the High Court of Parliament will remedy it in due time because they deem their owne fancies Gospel their owne Juventions Christs Oracles Certainly the world and Church will both be mad in good earnest when such a licentiousnesse shall be proclaimed under the Notion of Christian Liberty every mans own private way christned with the Name of Christs Kingdom c. though it hath small affinity with it The God of peace order of his infinite mercie preserve us safe from this Maniaca Insania this deadly madnesse into which we are running and hath already desperately seized upon the Braines and hearts of many My Brothers sixth Objection is this That Parliaments Councells Synods are not now infallible but subject unto errour many of them having erred and that grosly in former and late times That neither Parliament nor Assembly can now say as that Synod Act. 15. 28. It seemeth good to us and to the Holy Ghost they being not endued with an infallible spirit Therefore they can make no binding Determinations Lawes Canons Decrees in any Ecclesiasticall matters to oblige any particular Churches or christians Good Brother writes he for all your punctuall quotations of that Scripture Acts 15. you doe not all this while tell us that which is the maine of all which we finde in the 28. verse IT SEEMED GOOD TO THE HOLY
Elders Members Ordinances Prayers preaching Sacraments reading of the Word maintenance and the like of its owne within it selfe yetso as not simply to exclude all others from preaching or communicating with them when there is occasion and in this regard the definition of a Church given in out Homilies and by others That it is a company of men outwardly professing the faith of Christ wherein the Word of God is syncerely preached and the Sacraments duly administred belongs unto it But yet it followes not hereupon that it is either an absolute or Independent Church or a compleate body in all respects exempt from all superior jurisdiction but a dependent subordinate Congregation and a meere Member in respect of the Nationall Provinciall or Catholike Church For as every private person familie Corpotion Society City considered in themselves are compleate perfect men bodies Societies c. but in relation to the Families Kingdoms Cities Republikes wherin they are meete dependent subordinate parts Members of the whole common body to whose just Laws commands they are all equally subject or as every particular persons families or corporations interests in their owne persons liberties lands estates Children servants is good and absolute against all other private persons or corporations who have no power to deprive them of them but yet subordinate to the publike interest and power of the whole kingdom Paâ—â—ia who may command or dispose of them upon all just occasions for the safety and service of that common bodywhere of they are all Members which may give Laws of common right to all and deprive them of all private interests priviledges for the publike good Salus populâ— being Suprema lex to which all Privadoes must submit So it is with every particular Christian Congregation As a private Christian or Church they have a private compleatnesse absolutenesse and Ordinances within themselves of which no other particular Christian or Church can deprive them not judicially question them for But yet this private Christian as a Member of a Congregation and this particular Congregation as a Member of the Nationall and Catholik Church of Christ are neither absolute not independent but subordinate to the other Churches Synodically assembled to the supreame Councell of Parliament the representative Church and State of England who may prescribe Laws unto them and to the Civil Magistrate who may both censure correct them to For example if any particular Congregation or any Pastor or Member of it shall abuse or exceed their private power to the oppression of any of theâ—â— owne Members or injury of their neighbour Churches as by separating from their communion without just cause erecting a new private forme of Church-Government or Discipline in opposition to other Churches of the same or other Realms without publike authority to the engendring of schiâ—mes or broach any hereticall seditious Erronious Doctrines as some now do set up Idolatry supersition innovations or falfe worship abuse or prophane the Sacraments become licencious vitious or scandalous in their lives injure their owne Members without giving them satisfaction or reliefe entertaine all sorts of Sectaries deny communion in Sacraments or other Ordinances with the Members of their neighbour Churches who desire it upon just occasions debarre any of their Members from the Lords Supper or their Children from Baptisme without just cause be unable to resolve doubts and controversies in Religion betweene Minister and people or Members or to judge of doubtfull cases Vsuâ—pe more power then is meet to the impeaching of the Magistrates Authority wants meanes to raise monyes to provide an able Minister or defray their necessary Church expences or invades the Rights of other Neighbour Churches or refuseth obedience to such publike Ecclesiassticall Lawes which tend to the peace and unity of the whole Nationall Church In all these cases and others which concerne the Nationall or whol Catholike Church in general or other neighbouring Churches in particular no particular Church is an absolute or Independent body of it self but only a subordinate Member Subject to the Lawes Ordinances Determinations censures of the whole Church of that Nation combined in Parliament and to Nationall Provinciall Synods and Presbyteries established by common consent in Parliament as well as every Member of a Family City Society Kingdom Army or Realm is subordinate to the whol Family City Army Realm which no reasonable creature or Consciencious person can or dares deny Secondly I answer That this very argument is a most dangerous seditious Parâ—dox destructive to all Republikes and Societies of men A Cockatrice fit to be crushed in the shell ere it prove a devouring Serpent to Church and State as you may discerne by these instances in my Brothers way of arguing For may not any Independent Company 〈◊〉 Regiment or Brigade in our Armies argue just in this very straine Every Company Troop Regiment Brigade is a compleate body of it selfe having an its owne necessary Officers and Commanders Therefore we will not joyne with or submit to the commands Orders Military Lawes or directions of my Lord Generall the councell of Warre or any superior Officer but bee ruled commanded only by our selves and and the Parliaments own immediate commands to which we are onely subject Any Independent Family Streete parish Company or Ward only in the City argue thus we are an absolute compleate body family street parish company Ward within our selves Therefore we will not wee may not be governed directed commanded or censured by my Lord Major the Court of Aldermen or Common Councell but only by and within our selves Any Independent child servant Wife or Member of any such Congregation alleage I am an absolute Man Woman Christian of my selfe Therefore I may not I will not be commanded governed overruled obliged corrected by my Parents Master Husband or that Congregation of which I am a Member but only by my selfe Any independent County City Committee or Court of Justice argue Wee are a compleate County City Committee Court in and of our selves Ergo Wee neither will nor must submit to any Lawes or Ordinances of the high Court of Parliament Yea every Colledge in our Vniversities dispute thus We are a compleate Colledge and corporation within our selves Ergo the Chancellor Vicechancellor Convocation Congregation and whole Vniversity have no Authority to controle judge or order us Brother if such Arguments as these should be once admitted as they now begin to grow very rise in all places I referre to your saddest thoughts what will become of all our Armies Parishes Cities Churches Families Parliaments Kingdome in a short space Will they not all be dissipated dissolved in a moment and nought but a Chaos of confusion disobedience Schisme Anarchy and disorder cover their faces I beseech you therefore consider and retract this new monstrous Logick and Divinity which cuts in sunder all relations and subverts the very pillars foundations of all Government Order Peace Vnity both in Church and State But my Brother Objects 3.