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A86484 A rejoynder to Master Samuel Eaton and Master Timothy Taylor's reply. Or, an answer to their late book called A defence of sundry positions and scriptures, &c. With some occasionall animadversions on the book called the Congregational way justified. For the satisfaction of all that seek the truth in love, especially for his dearly beloved and longed for, the inhabitants in and neer to Manchester in Lancashire. / Made and published by Richard Hollinworth. Mancuniens. Hollingworth, Richard, 1607-1656. 1647 (1647) Wing H2496; Thomason E391_1; ESTC R201545 213,867 259

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andrew_n thomas_n etc._n etc._n paul_n and_o barnabas_n assemble_v a_o whole_a year_n with_o the_o church_n at_o antioch_n though_o they_o do_v not_o covenant_v themselves_o into_o it_o be_v say_v to_o be_v within_o that_o church_n act_v 11.26_o cum_fw-la cap._n 13.1_o and_o therefore_o if_o implicit_a covenant_n agreement_n or_o combination_n do_v make_v a_o true_a church_n we_o be_v not_o deficient_a therein_o 5._o as_o for_o that_o of_o the_o sichemite_n be_v one_o people_n that_o be_v to_o say_v one_o church_n or_o one_o people_n to_o god_n as_o elsewhere_o you_o phrase_v it_o i_o conceive_v that_o simeon_n and_o levi_n do_v not_o pretend_v they_o to_o be_v one_o church_n neither_o will_v this_o have_v be_v a_o acceptable_a motion_n to_o a_o heathenish_a idolatrous_a people_n nor_o will_v circumcision_n alone_o have_v effect_v it_o edomite_n and_o other_o be_v circumcise_a and_o yet_o be_v not_o of_o the_o jewish_a church_n except_o they_o have_v renounce_v their_o idol_n and_o 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