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A74947 Rayling rebuked: or, A defence of the ministers of this nation: by way of answer to the unparrallel'd calumnies cast upon them in an epistle lately published by Thomas Speed merchant of Bristol, unhappily become the Quakers advocate. Wherein, some Scriptures are opened, and diverse things objected by the Quakers, examined and answered. With an hortatory epistle prefixed to fasten Christians to Jesus Christ in these un-glewing times, wherein so many play fast and loose with him. By William Thomas minister of the Gospel at Ubley. Thomas, William, 1593-1667. 1656 (1656) Thomason E883_5; ESTC R207300 68,071 90

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pleadto it not guilty and if guilty how then can you escape the same sentence and condemnation that fell on those Priests and Prophets who were found in the same transgressions W. T. To this I answer 1. If the taking a maintenance for our Labour in Preaching be Preaching for hire then we acknowledg we Preach for Hire But that such a construction is a vain surmise is evident by Scripture that saies The Labourer is worthy of his hire Luke 10. 7. We professe we take that which Christ saith we are worthy to have but if he understand by preaching for hire that we exercise and order our preaching for the getting of money and maintenance there are enough of us that through Gods mercy know that to be a meer slander as the other also is of preparing war for those that put not into our mouthes If this man made conscience of applying Scripture he would otherwise apply it and use more caution that there might be lesse calumny 2. Nor are we afraid to hear of an appeal to our consciences For though we do not know so little of our Rule or of our selves as to pretend to perfection as Quakers do but finde many things amisse for which we humble our selves before the Lord yet in reference to those grosse things whereof he speaks our hearts shall not reproach us so long as we live Job 27. 6. 3. We will not secure our selves only within this brazen wall of an accusing conscience but freely offer our selves in this and in the things following to the tryal and testimony of the people of God among whom we have lived Let them say whither they have found such evils in us as are objected against us while we have walked in and out before them 4. We shall willingly and cheerfully joyn issue in refering our cause to the great God that knows perfectly our hearts and wayes and before whom we doubt not to stand in the judgment through Jesus Christ at the la● and great day If our sentence should come forth from Quakers we might very well and very much fear but Lord let our sentence come forth from thy presence 5. I wonder it should never come into the heart of this man that hath so many It 's If guilty If so c to think what if it be not so What if they be not guilty Shall not they that be wronged have reparations Will God take it well to have his servants slandered or shall they goe scot-sree that make it their trade to traduce them T. S. Jesus Christ the true and great Prophet of his people denounceth the woe against the Teachers in his dayes for that they did their works to be seen of men standing praying in the Synagogues and the corners of the streets as also because they loved the uppermost roomes at Feasts and the chief seats in the Synagogues and greetings in the markets and to be called of men Rabbi Rabbi view your selves in this glasse also and let the light of Christ in all your consciences judge whether these spots are not manifestly to be seen in your garments and if so who can absolve you from beeing sharers in their woe who are found partakers with them in their evil works W. T. Let the Reader observe that Christ condemneth not 1. Standing in prayer whereof there be divers examples in Scripture Nehem. 9. 4 5 6. Luke 18. 13. And whereof Christ himself saith when you stand praying Mark 11. 25 2. Nor Praying in the corners of the streets though this man of this company know we do not so for wisdome cries and may to cry God in such chief places of concourse Pro 1. 20 21. 3. Nor taking the uppermost roomes and seats as if it were a sin to take them for some body must needs have them Nor 4. greetings in the markets and meetings which humanity requires and Scripiure favours 5 Nor being called Rabbi else t is like Christ would not have taken that name John 1. 38. Mark 14. 45. On the contrary it is evident by the text that the thing which our Saviour blames is praying in places where we may be seen to be seen as Mat. 6. 1. To be seen of men that is in a vain-glorious way and the loving for so he speaks and willing and affecting of higher places and Titles To what purpose then is this place brought but only that this uncharitable cre●ture who hath no knowledg of our hearts and ends takes it for granted that when we stand in a Pulpit for the peoples edification we do it for our own praise and that because we take therefore we love those a little higher places and titles which civility casts upon us This is so senselesse an allegation and imputation that one would not take notice of it but that the Quakers generally bring it and Christians may understand the text better by giving some explanation of it T. S. The Scripture witnesseth that the sheep and the sheepheards of Jesus Christ were not of the world because by him chosen out of the world and therefore by the world were they hated persecuted imprisoned stoned beaten in their Synagogues dragged before Rulers and Magistrates for his name sake cast out as the sweepings and off-scouring of all things Stand to the Bar O you Shepheards before the righteous Judge that cannot be bribed and in the presence of him that searcheth the heart and tryeth the reins of all men Give true answer to what I shall demand of you Are you by the world hated or are you haters of others Are you persecuted or Persecutors Are you imprisoned for Truths sake or are you imprisoners of others c. W. T. To this I answer 1. That we are hated and persecuted in the height with Ismael's persecution yea and made the off scouring of all things in the Quakers Bookes and in this of his more especially and more studiously more virulently and more generally than in many or for ought I know in any other 2. He shall answer himself in the next Page but one of his Epistle where he saith that the Bishops did in their dayes imprison and evil intreat many of us Why doth he say are you imprisoned when he himself tells us we have been imprisoned If he mean that we are not now imprisoned neither were the Shepheards of Christ still imprisoned Acts 9. 31. Besides this how many were tossed and troubled in the High-commission-court by wicked men in and about their own places T. S. We never read that Paul or any of the Ministers of Christ in Scripture did so much as claime a maintenance from those without much lesse did they Commence suites at Law against the world or the Saints for the tenth of all their Labours Are you the Messengers of Christ And is the Scripture your rule How is it then that you dare not engage to preach having not first made firme Indentures for your livelihood Or why is it that