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Fair-play on both sides: or, the surest way to heaven Discovered in a dispute between a Roman-Catholick, and a Protestant.
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Hieron, Samuel, 1576?-1617.
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Hereticks called Cathari who dreamed of a state of perfection in this life so as Papists also do or else such factious ones among us which have sought the spoile and havock of the Church All giddy Sects among us crept We wish out of our Church were swept No name do we delight in more Then that at Antioch given of yore (f) Christians Acts 11.26 But now what Sects you Papists have I do but thy own witness crave Some Capucines some Franciscans And some be called Dominicans Some Jesuites some Seculars (b) The emulation and difference betwixt these two their Quodlibets do shew Some gray some black some white Friars And that your store may not be spent New Locusts still from Hell are sent (c) Rev. 9.3 Those Locusts do well represent the Popes Clergie they were bred of the smoak of the pit so are these of Heresie Ignorance and Superstition they destroy the fruits of the earth so these spoile the Church Thou saist thou would the Church find out So that I see thou art in doubt And so indeed Uncertainty Is still the fruit of Popery Popish Rime Catholick IN your Bible I have read The Church must through the world be spread For Christ he his Apostles sent With Power and Commandement That to all Nations they should go To Preach and to Baptize also Who hath done this to know I wish For that is sure the Church of Christ (d) I hope thou wilt not say that Rome hath done this the charge was given and undertaken before Rome was converted And for example let me know And if thou canst I pray thee show What Church did take in hand The first conversion of this Land (e) The Apostles Church for ought you can prove to the contrary And all other Countries every where Throughout the world far and near (f) Who but a Papist would dare to say this If this were not the Church of Rome Then will I be converted soon (g) You build your faith upon a very sure ground Saint Paul in his Epistle saith (h) Did Paul say that Rome shall never deny the Faith The Romans had the Catholick Faith Saying it was renowned Spoken of or published Through the world over all Catholick Universal And if your Churches were even so (i) Our Church is a part of the Catholick Church disprove it if you can Then to your Churches I would go (k) You may come to our Churches the Pope giveth you leave so that you keep your hearts to him Protestants Answer Catholick IN our Bible thou hast read 'T is well in ours for yours is fled And lurketh in a tongue unus'd Whereby poor people are abus'd The Church is Catholick as you say And so say we but why †The reason why the Church is called Catholick I pray Because to it it were disgrace To limit it to time or place It ever was and so shall be Since Christ excluding no degree (l) Col. 3.11 Acts 10.34 35. It once was ty'd unto the Jews But now no place (m) Austine saith it is Catholick because spread over the world Ep. 170. and thereto agreeth the Scripture Acts 1.8 it doth refuse It is a very fond surmise Which you the Papist do devise To shut the Church within Romes wall And yet to call it general (n) Catholick and general are all one and therefore one of their own Councels saith The Roman Church is not the Universal Church but of the Universal Church Basil Con. sy 3. The very name which you pretend Whereby your Church you would defend To all which do the meaning know Doth quite your fancy overthrow You say the charge which Christ once gave The Romists well performed have But mark how thou thy self dost hurt And lay Romes honour in the dirt That charge (i) Viz. of preaching through the world was given first to them Which lived at Jerusalem (k) The Apostles Mat. 28. Acts 1. And thence the Gospel issued out (l) Acts 8.1 As Esay told (m) Isa 2.3 the world throughout By them the Nations turned were (n) We read in Histories as in Eusebius and others how the Apostles divided themselves into all the quarters of the world And thence of Christ Rome first did hear Yet now the place (o) Jerusalem which others call'd To Turkish Empire is enthrall'd So though't were true which is not so And never shall be prov'd I know That Rome to Christ the Nations brought Yet this your reason were stark nought But now perhaps Rome doth you 'l say Bring home the wanderers to the way Indeed the Spaniards loving Gold Have brought the Indians to your fold The Frogs from Euphrates came out (p) Euphrates was a great river running near the old Babylon in Chaldea and was the defence of the City Cyrus and Darius could never take the City until by policy they dryed up the River Now in a spiritual sense it doth signifie the honour wealth and authority of Rome which hath of latter years decayed excedingly and doth daily and the frogs mentioned in Apoc. 16.13 do well resemble the Jesuites who feeling Euphrates to dry up bestir themselves and are croaking like Frogs in every corner labouring to maintain the Popes Authority I mean the Jesuited Rout Do spread themselves in each countrey To draw men to disloyalty They counsel Subjects kill their Kings Stabbings they use and poysonings (q) Our Countrey and times afford store of examples to prove this Christ gave no such commandement When first he his Disciples sent Of this conversion if you boast Whereby poor souls Hell hath engrost I yeeld it you full willingly It well agrees with Popery To draw Disciples is no mark For so doth many a feigned Clark (r) 2 Pet. 2.1 2. Acts 20.30 The Church to truth which doth convert We do embrace with all our heart Thou sayst Romes Faith once over all The world was famous so saith Paul (ſ) Rom. 1.8 And Rome did first convert our Land And hereupon you greatly stand Romes faith indeed once bare the bell And so it did deserve it well But Rome's not now as heretofore That faithful Citie 's made a Whore (t) Isa 1.21 So it was said of Jerusalem which had more excellent particular promises then Rome can alledge any If new Rome now were as the old Then we with Romanists would hold If Rome become Christs enemy Then we from Babylon must flie (t) Apoc. 18.4 To say that Rome is therefore sound Because of old it was renownd It may a Papist satisfie But men of judgement it deny Paul never Rome did magnifie As he did those of Thessaly †See 1 Thess 1.3 4 5 6 7 8. Yet now that Church is clean defac't And there the Turk himself hath plac't The Asian Churches (x) Ephesus Smyrna Pergamus Thyatira Sardis Philadelphia Laodicea Apoc. 1.11 famous once Are turned to a heap of