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against_o this_o tenure_n 4._o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o all_o the_o church_n in_o communion_n with_o rome_n equal_o hold_v at_o the_o time_n of_o the_o protestant_a reformation_n in_o k._n henry_n day_n these_o two_o principle_n as_o they_o do_v now_o that_o be_v the_o substance_n of_o the_o pope_n authority_n or_o that_o he_o be_v supreme_a in_o god_n church_n and_o that_o the_o live_a voice_n of_o the_o present_a church_n deliver_v as_o above_o say_v be_v the_o infallible_a rule_n of_o faith_n this_o be_v manifest_v by_o our_o adversary_n impugn_v the_o former_a church_n as_o hold_v tradition_n and_o the_o pope_n headship_n nor_o be_v it_o ever_o pretend_a by_o friend_n or_o foe_n that_o either_o those_o church_n hold_v not_o those_o tenet_n then_o or_o that_o they_o have_v renounce_v they_o since_o 5._o the_o church_n of_o england_n immediate_o before_o the_o reformation_n be_v one_o of_o those_o church_n which_o hold_v communion_n with_o rome_n as_o all_o the_o world_n grant_v 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it_o be_v doubtful_a whether_o some_o few_o injury_n may_v not_o be_v sufficient_a for_o that_o end_n and_o than_o if_o the_o some_o of_o these_o last_o word_n do_v not_o mitigate_v the_o absolute_a nulla_fw-la potest_fw-la there_o can_v be_v none_o i_o confess_v i_o have_v lose_v my_o reason_n to_o omit_v that_o the_o sense_n of_o his_o translation_n or_o paraphrase_n few_o or_o none_o etc._n etc._n leave_v room_n for_o the_o reasonableness_n of_o schism_n since_o it_o admit_v a_o possibility_n for_o schism_n in_o case_n of_o some_o injury_n receive_v to_o be_v excusable_a in_o a_o word_n i_o only_o affirm_v schism_n disarm_v p._n 3_o that_o he_o seem_v something_o chary_a in_o those_o expression_n which_o i_o be_o sure_a the_o reader_n will_v think_v i_o have_v make_v good_a himself_o acknowledge_v here_o p._n 24._o l._n 11._o that_o his_o expression_n be_v cautious_a and_o the_o fact_n of_o mince_v the_o word_n be_v evident_a as_o for_o his_o intention_n if_o the_o reader_n will_v 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which_o s._n austin_n contra_fw-la epist._n fund_z cap._n 4._o hold_v to_o be_v a_o note_n of_o the_o church_n it_o be_v a_o wrong_n to_o that_o holy_a doctor_n to_o put_v upon_o he_o in_o your_o translation_n the_o unnecessary_a addition_n of_o true_o to_o catholic_n see_v that_o according_a to_o he_o no_o church_n can_v be_v universal_o call_v such_o which_o be_v not_o true_o such_o the_o sum_n then_o of_o dr._n h_n supererogate_a true_o be_v that_o though_o all_o the_o world_n in_o their_o free_a expression_n call_v we_o only_a catholic_n that_o be_v son_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n yet_o all_o speak_v untrue_o but_o himself_o and_o a_o few_o of_o his_o brethren_n who_o also_o speak_v true_o only_o then_o when_o it_o be_v their_o turn_n to_o dispute_v against_o we_o yet_o he_o tell_v we_o if_o we_o will_v believe_v he_o that_o certain_o our_o church_n be_v not_o such_o in_o the_o notion_n s_o austin_n speak_v though_o if_o we_o shall_v ask_v he_o what_o ground_n he_o have_v 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slight_o pass_v over_o the_o distinction_n between_o heresy_n and_o schism_n which_o be_v necessary_a to_o be_v express_v in_o that_o place_n where_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o futurework_n be_v to_o be_v determine_v that_o be_v what_o schism_n he_o be_v chief_o to_o treat_v of_o now_o in_o this_o book_n entitle_v their_o defence_n he_o ought_v to_o state_n the_o matter_n so_o as_o to_o treat_v of_o that_o chief_o which_o be_v chief_o object_v wherefore_o since_o he_o can_v but_o know_v that_o a_o schism_n come_v from_o a_o heresy_n be_v that_o which_o be_v more_o charge_v upon_o they_o both_o as_o great_a crime_n and_o as_o the_o cause_n and_o origin_n of_o the_o other_o schism_n of_o only_a disobedience_n he_o ought_v to_o have_v premise_v this_o and_o let_v his_o reader_n have_v know_v that_o all_o heresy_n be_v schism_n at_o least_o in_o a_o place_n where_o he_o purposely_o treat_v of_o the_o notion_n of_o schism_n it_o be_v fit_v to_o treat_v it_o abstract_o from_o the_o 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it_o to_o treat_v of_o it_o chap._n 8._o whereat_o its_o evident_o most_o impertinent_a and_o unmethodical_a to_o treat_v of_o schism_n against_o faith_n under_o the_o head_n of_o schism_n against_o mutual_a charity_n and_o beside_o method_n give_v that_o we_o must_v put_v the_o definition_n before_o we_o treat_v of_o the_o particularity_n i_o be_o sorry_a to_o see_v that_o his_o confusion_n for_o method_n sake_n the_o nonsense_n of_o his_o first_o book_n be_v entail_v upon_o these_o also_o and_o that_o that_o dish_n in_o the_o stationer_n bill_n of_o fare_n must_v be_v cook_v up_o again_o here_o by_o mr._n h._n to_o give_v the_o reader_n a_o second_o surfeit_n sect._n 9_o how_o dr._n h._n defend_v his_o famous_a criticism_n about_o the_o heath_n pael-like_a verb_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d with_o ten_o several_a mistake_n of_o his_o accidence_n his_o second_o section_n present_v we_o with_o the_o first_o dish_n in_o the_o stationer_n bill_n of_o fare_n serve_v up_o to_o the_o 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first_o of_o the_o choir_n always_o begin_v to_o speak_v first_o what_o can_v be_v more_o express_o destructive_a to_o dr._n h_n tenet_n and_o interpretation_n of_o this_o place_n yet_o it_o not_o belong_v to_o i_o at_o this_o time_n to_o allege_v testimony_n and_o object_n i_o go_v not_o far_o to_o fetch_v it_o or_o seek_v it_o in_o remote_a author_n but_o take_v the_o first_o obvious_a testimony_n i_o meet_v in_o this_o very_a father_n which_o he_o choose_v here_o for_o his_o best_a patron_n and_o in_o that_o very_a treatise_n which_o he_o build_v upon_o as_o most_o express_a for_o this_o his_o altogether-unwarrantable_a position_n nor_o consequent_o can_v it_o be_v imagine_v but_o that_o dr._n h._n must_v needs_o see_v how_o averse_a s._n chrysostome_n be_v from_o what_o he_o will_v make_v he_o profess_v in_o case_n he_o ever_o look_v into_o the_o very_a author_n he_o quote_v and_o most_o rely_v on_o sect._n 12._o how_o weak_o dr._n h._n argue_v to_o prove_v saint_n pawles_n authority_n equal_a to_o s._n peter_n s._n chrysostom_n judgement_n concern_v s._n peter_n supremacy_n i_o have_v grant_v that_o the_o confer_v the_o honour_n or_o dignity_n of_o apostle_n upon_o s._n paul_n be_v not_o dependent_a on_o s._n peter_n and_o that_o the_o place_n cite_v gal._n 1._o show_v that_o he_o have_v it_o immediate_o from_o christ_n conclude_v very_o well_o for_o that_o purpose_n yet_o conclude_v nothing_o against_o we_o who_o never_o hold_v the_o contrary_a tenet_n but_o i_o deny_v absolute_o that_o the_o dignity_n give_v be_v not_o inferior_a subordinate_a and_o in_o that_o sense_n dependent_a on_o s._n peter_n and_o that_o any_o such_o thing_n be_v deducible_a from_o that_o place_n whence_o dr_n h._n pretend_a to_o prove_v it_o now_o what_o the_o duty_n of_o a_o opponent_n be_v in_o these_o circumstance_n every_o boy_n in_o the_o university_n can_v inform_v mr._n h._n to_o wit_n to_o make_v good_a his_o consequence_n and_o to_o manifest_v that_o the_o conclusion_n follow_v out_o of_o these_o premise_n or_o that_o place_n whence_o he_o pretend_v to_o deduce_v it_o what_o do_v this_o dr._n of_o divinity_n first_o he_o tell_v we_o answ_n p._n 46._o that_o s._n w._n ought_v in_o any_o reason_n to_o have_v offer_v some_o proof_n for_o this_o to_o wit_n that_o the_o power_n give_v be_v subordinate_a or_o dependent_a on_o s._n peter_n which_o he_o know_v be_v most_o deny_v by_o the_o protestant_n a_o secure_a method_n of_o dispute_v let_v we_o put_v it_o into_o a_o parallel_n and_o we_o shall_v see_v what_o a_o rare_a logician_n this_o dr._n be_v put_v case_n then_o that_o himself_o be_v to_o maintain_v and_o prove_v that_o logic_n be_v no_o science_n but_o a_o art_n and_o shall_v argue_v thus_o the_o end_n of_o logic_n be_v not_o contemplation_n but_o action_n therefore_o logic_n be_v no_o science_n his_o adversary_n as_o s._n w._n do_v distinguish_v his_o consequent_a therefore_o it_o be_v no_o speculative_a science_n i_o grant_v it_o therefore_o it_o be_v no_o practical_a science_n i_o deny_v it_o i_o marry_v reply_n dr._n h._n but_o you_o must_v prove_v one_o part_n of_o your_o own_o distinction_n and_o manifest_v that_o logic_n be_v a_o practical_a science_n nay_o more_o tell_v he_o grave_o as_o he_o tell_v i_o here_o that_o unless_o he_o can_v make_v it_o appear_v he_o can_v say_v it_o be_v such_o with_o any_o sobriety_n after_o which_o learned_a carriage_n i_o suppose_v the_o reader_n who_o have_v only_o study_v logic_n a_o fortnight_n will_v imagine_v that_o the_o whole_a school_n fall_v a_o hiss_a at_o my_o notable_a adversary_n who_o speak_v nonsense_n with_o such_o gravity_n and_o sobriety_n and_o acquit_v his_o antagonist_n from_o any_o note_n of_o insobriety_n save_v only_o his_o indiscretion_n to_o think_v the_o answer_v such_o a_o adversary_n worth_a his_o pain_n second_o he_o answer_v that_o unless_o the_o same_o christ_n that_o give_v he_o this_o power_n immediate_o appear_v to_o have_v subject_v it_o to_o s._n peter_n as_o clear_o as_o that_o he_o give_v he_o the_o power_n which_o it_o be_v certain_a appear_v not_o this_o can_v be_v say_v with_o any_o sobriety_n where_o beside_o the_o relapse_n into_o the_o same_o fault_n of_o exact_v his_o respondent_fw-la shall_v make_v his_o own_o distinction_n appear_v it_o be_v worth_a observation_n how_o cautious_a the_o dr._n be_v to_o make_v all_o sure_a against_o s._n peter_n primacy_n it_o must_v be_v the_o same_o christ_n which_o must_v do_v this_o lest_o there_o be_v juggle_a underhand_n a_o weighty_a caution_n and_o he_o must_v appear_v full_a as_o clear_o to_o have_v subject_v this_o power_n as_o to_o have_v give_v it_o extreme_a rigour_n or_o else_o s._n w._n must_v forfeit_v his_o sobriety_n for_o affirm_v it_o hard_a measure_n in_o answer_n i_o be_o not_o afraid_a of_o all_o these_o caution_n but_o tell_v he_o more_o and_o stick_v not_o to_o assure_v he_o that_o it_o equal_o appear_v to_o i_o as_o it_o appear_v that_o christ_n be_v god_n if_o he_o startle_v at_o this_o and_o demand_v by_o what_o mean_v i_o can_v give_v he_o such_o a_o assurance_n i_o reply_v that_o the_o voice_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n infallible_a because_o ever_o build_v upon_o the_o testification_n of_o a_o world_n of_o immediate_a father_n and_o pastor_n equal_o ascertain_v all_o who_o desert_v not_o that_o rule_n for_o that_o point_n that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o simon_n the_o first_o signify_v not_o a_o onely-complementary_a but_o efficacious_a primacy_n in_o the_o church_n as_o it_o do_v ascertain_v they_o or_o do_v the_o protestant_n against_o the_o socinian_o that_o the_o word_n i_o and_o my_o father_n be_v one_o signify_v a_o unity_n in_o divine_a nature_n or_o the_o godhead_n and_o the_o like_a i_o say_v of_o all_o other_o place_n of_o scripture_n which_o can_v be_v pretend_v to_o ascertain_v it_o infallible_o this_o voice_n of_o the_o church_n equal_o i_o say_v ascertain_v one_o point_n as_o the_o other_o by_o which_o 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believe_v not_o as_o to_o have_v send_v they_o to_o baptize_v believer_n which_o it_o be_v certain_a appear_v not_o it_o can_v be_v say_v with_o any_o sobriety_n that_o a_o infant_n ought_v to_o be_v baptize_v thus_o mr._n h._n trip_v up_o his_o own_o heel_n when_o he_o think_v to_o kick_v at_o s._n peter_n and_o the_o anabaptist_n get_v the_o upper_a hand_n or_o if_o dr._n h._n run_v to_o tradition_n for_o the_o certainty_n of_o one_o point_n and_o deny_v its_o certainty_n for_o another_o than_o he_o be_v to_o be_v ask_v by_o the_o anabaptist_n why_o he_o shall_v in_o reason_n rely_v upon_o that_o authority_n which_o himself_o grant_v be_v take_v in_o aly_a in_o the_o point_n of_o peter_n primacy_n and_o in_o all_o the_o other_o point_n in_o which_o catholic_n differ_v from_o they_o and_o also_o s._n w._n must_v demand_v by_o what_o secure_a rule_n he_o guide_v himself_o when_o he_o affirm_v it_o have_v err_v in_o some_o and_o not_o in_o other_o point_n and_o why_o it_o may_v not_o 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