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A67650 A revision of Doctor George Morlei's judgment in matters of religion, or, An answer to several treatises written by him upon several occasions concerning the Church of Rome and most of the doctrines controverted betwixt her, and the Church of England to which is annext a treatise of pagan idolatry / by L.W. Warner, John, 1628-1692. 1683 (1683) Wing W912; ESTC R14220 191,103 310

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