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A61458 The church of Rome not sufficiently defended from her apostacy, heresie, and schisme as appears by an answer to certain quæries, printed in a book entituled Fiat Lux, and sent transcribed (as 'tis suppos'd) from thence by a Romanist to a priest of the Church of England. Whereunto are annexed the Romanist's reply to the Protestant's Answer, and the Protestant's rejoynder to that reply. By P.S. D.D. Samways, Peter, 1615-1693. 1663 (1663) Wing S545B; ESTC R222361 39,609 116

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of_o such_o as_o with_o fast_v sacrifice_v though_o even_o to_o the_o martyr_n themselves_o this_o devout_a father_n will_v have_v detest_v the_o abuse_n of_o his_o own_o distinction_n into_o latria_n and_o dulia_n and_o much_o more_o abhor_v the_o doctrine_n of_o 3.4_o of_o aquin_n p._n 3._o quest_n 25_o art_n 3.4_o aquinas_n and_o other_o modern_a romanist_n who_o teach_v that_o the_o image_n and_o the_o gross_a of_o christ_n be_v to_o be_v adore_v with_o the_o same_o worship_n that_o christ_n be_v adore_v with_o himself_o id_fw-la est_fw-la with_o latria_n in_o its_o full_a extent_n have_v he_o live_v to_o to_o see_v it_o 1._o it_o greg._n de_fw-fr valent._n lib._n 3._o the_o idolat_a c._n 5._o apud_fw-la reynold_n de_fw-fr idolat_a ecclesiae_fw-la rom._n lib._n 1._o c._n 1._o which_o veneration_n when_o gregory_n de_fw-fr valentia_n observe_v can_v not_o be_v attribute_v to_o a_o creature_n without_o idolatry_n he_o speak_v plain_o that_o some_o kind_n of_o idolatry_n be_v lawful_a 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