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by_o consequence_n they_o be_v exempt_v from_o a_o obligation_n of_o examine_v particular_a controversy_n which_o their_o teacher_n duty_n be_v to_o examine_v for_o they_o §._o 19_o neither_o be_v it_o natural_a reason_n alone_o which_o direct_v we_o to_o perfer_fw-la so_o eminent_a authority_n before_o our_o own_o simple_a judgement_n but_o as_o have_v be_v say_v a_o divine_a light_n also_o appear_v in_o scripture_n and_o in_o constant_a ecclesiastical_a tradition_n the_o best_a and_o safe_a interpreter_n of_o scripture_n there_o we_o find_v the_o church_n call_v the_o pillar_n and_o ground_n of_o truth_n a_o city_n at_o one_o in_o itself_o and_o set_v upon_o a_o hill_n which_o can_v be_v 3._o hide_v there_o we_o read_v that_o every_o tongue_n which_o shall_v rise_v against_o she_o in_o judgement_n she_o shall_v condemn_v that_o gentile_n 14._o shall_v come_v to_o her_o light_n and_o king_n to_o the_o brightness_n of_o her_o 54._o rise_n and_o that_o the_o nation_n and_o kingdom_n 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the_o only_o beget_v son_n of_o god_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v adore_v in_o the_o holy_a sacrament_n of_o the_o eucharist_n with_o the_o supreme_a worship_n latria_n even_o external_a and_o that_o his_o adorer_n be_v idolater_n let_v he_o be_v anathema_n now_o the_o doctrine_n touch_v the_o real_a presence_n be_v once_o establish_v will_v sufficient_o justify_v this_o for_o certain_o it_o be_v not_o only_o lawful_a but_o our_o duty_n to_o adore_v christ_n wherever_o he_o be_v true_o present_a and_o consequent_o this_o practice_n of_o adore_v our_o lord_n in_o his_o sacrament_n be_v by_o the_o same_o universal_a tradition_n deliver_v and_o ordain_v in_o all_o public_a liturgy_n both_o of_o the_o grecian_a and_o other_o oriental_a church_n §._o 73._o but_o the_o great_a and_o too_o willing_a mistake_n of_o our_o adversary_n be_v that_o they_o impute_v to_o we_o the_o adoration_n of_o the_o visible_a element_n whereas_o the_o proper_a object_n of_o our_o worship_n be_v not_o any_o 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remit_v and_o who_o soever_o sin_n 16._o you_o retain_v they_o be_v retain_v as_o likewise_o to_o the_o precept_n to_o saint_n james_n confess_v your_o sin_n one_o to_o another_o which_o text_n have_v be_v always_o interpret_v by_o the_o holy_a father_n in_o the_o same_o sense_n the_o universal_a practice_n likewise_o of_o the_o jewish_a synagogue_n conformable_a hereto_o add_v a_o considerable_a weight_n to_o induce_v we_o to_o a_o persuasion_n that_o it_o be_v by_o divine_a institution_n for_o how_o can_v it_o be_v imagine_v that_o by_o any_o humane_a invention_n a_o duty_n so_o burdensome_a to_o flesh_n and_o blood_n and_o to_o our_o natural_a pride_n can_v have_v be_v introduce_v general_o into_o the_o church_n without_o spare_v the_o awful_a majesty_n of_o king_n and_o modesty_n of_o queen_n by_o a_o unarmed_a ecclesiastical_a power_n the_o pope_n himself_o also_o owe_v such_o submission_n to_o a_o simple_a priest_n §._o 79._o the_o ground_n of_o the_o necessity_n of_o this_o 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