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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A10968	Miles Christianus or A iust apologie of all necessarie writings and writers specialie of them which by their labored writings take paines to build vp the Church of Christ in this age and in a publique, and diffamatorie epistle lately set forth in print, are vniustly depraued. Allowed by auctority.	Rogers, Thomas, d. 1616.; Mosse, Miles, fl. 1580-1614. aut; Mosse, Miles, fl. 1580-1614. Short catechism. aut	1590 (1590)	STC 21238; ESTC S100921	27,752	42

haue added none more than I suppose them to haue beene entended of the first founders or so necessarie as they might not be omitted Miles Christianus But what hath your selfe done to the booke if one may aske you Haue you so published the same as at the first by the Authors the first founders diuers great Diuines in the Vniuersity of Cambridge it was published Haue you restored the same to the first integritie No you say Haue you not And yet call you them Euil men which haue altered it you hauing your selfe varied also from the first founders But what is it you haue done You haue aimed you saie at two things the one is more shortnes in the ansvvers for the capacity and memory of the simple and the other is more direct and euident profs of scripture to the purpose And is this all No you saie For you haue added besides questions and ansvvers Uerie well then you haue both made some answers shorter which were long that is Abridged and you haue Added questions and answers too that is bolstred it out vvith more then the ovvne Haue you thus done by your owne confession and blame you other men naming them Euil and saying they haue béene preiudiciall very preiudicial to the Authors and yet haue done but that which you haue done and no more But you haue reasons for your doing For you saie that you abridged it for the capacity and memory of the simple and inlarged it but by such things as you suppose vvere either intended of the first founders or so necessary as they might not be omitted And may not they where they abridged it say also they did it for the capacity and memory of the simple and where they inlarged that they either supposed their additions were intended by the first founders or so necessarie that they could not be omitted Be these reasons good alleadged for your selfe and be they not as strong alleadged by and for them And then what praise purchase you but they deserue the same And why are they reproched as ill doing but that which you did and vppon so good groundes as you haue done Is this wel done of you that ill done of them Are they il men doing as you do you a good man doing euen as they Are they preiudiciall to the aucthors and not your selfe And let al men that haue iudgement iudge whether that by your abridging and adding you haue bettered and not rather worsered this Catechisme of so manie great Diuines of Cambridge and whether it were not much better both at the first as the Authors did it and since as other men did publish it then now You say you haue aimed at more direct and euident proofes of Scripture to the purpose I doubt not of that but how wel you haue hit the marke let others say I will not nowe vnfold One thing only I wil tel you but the truth as he knoweth who knoweth all things opening your booke as our Sauiour did the booke of the Prophet Esay I founde this question What callest thou the Catholique Church This answere The Catholique Church the number of faithfull people vvhich are haue bene and shalbe to the worlds end in all places all vvhich are knovven to God and cared for of men These proofs Iob 10. 16. 2. Tim. 2. 19. Matth. 18. 14. The first proofe Iob. 10. 16. is to show that the Catholike Church is the number of faithful people vvhich are haue beene and shalbe to the vvorlds end in all places I turned to that place in Iob and I found the wordes to be these But let it encrease hunt thou me like a Lion returne and shevv thy selfe marueilous vpon me Here is no word to the purpose for which it is quoted You made me to muse but thinking it might be a fault of the Printer and that Iob might be set for Iohn I turned vnto the tenth of Iohn the 16. verse where in déed our Sauiour Christ speaketh of his Church and of one Church and of the encrease and perpetuitie of the same But by your leaue that place neither will proue that The Catholike Church is the number of faithfull people vvhich are haue beene and shalbe to the vvorlds end in all places For though it be true that the faithfull people which are haue beene and shalbe to the worlds end are of the Catholike Church yet are not the faithfull people the Catholike Church For then should manie which neither had haue or shal haue Faith be excluded from the mysticall bodie the Catholike Church of Christ and yet both our Sauiour dyed and shed his pretious bloud for them and they were elected vnto life euerlasting before the foundations of the world so well as they which by hearing the word of God preached hane attained faith b They are in an errour which expounded this Artickle The holy Catholike Church of the visible Church as the Papists do and they are not in the right way which expounded it onely of the Faithfull For the holy Catholike Church which vve belieue in our Creed is not the companie of the Faithfull onely but the whole company of Gods elect and chosen whether euer or neuer they doe belieue The second proofe 2. Tim. 2. 19. is truely quoted But the third and last Matth. 18. 14. alledged to proue that the Catholike Church as you say the companie of the faithfull is cared for of men is nothing so nor so The wordes of S. Mathevv in that place be these So is it not the vvil of your Father vvhich is in heauen that one of these litle ones should perish where our Sauiour plainely sheweth that his prouident care is excéeding great euen ouer litle ones of this world he saith not that men haue a care of his people the litle ones of this world or that they be cared for of man But the contrary we may sée in the holy Scriptures For the vvorld hateth them because they are not of the world but chosen out of the vvorld Neither haue you misapplyed onely this text of Matthew but ouer and that peruerted the good meaning too of the Authours For where in the former editions it is thus I belieue that God knoweth them al and hath a most tender care ouer them which is very true you set downe in yours Al vvhich are knovvn to God and cared for of man the former of which is true the latter most false And yet are you a good man and they ill you a benefactour and they preiudiciall to this booke Fel it into ill company when it came into theirs and was it happy by lighting into your handes This one place maketh me to thinke you haue not dealt soundly in other Miles Mosse And in these I haue not trusted my self alone because euery man aboundeth too much with his owne sense but haue consulted with diuers godly and learned brethren that two might be better then one and a three-folde a●arde