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A06697 A profitable dialogue for a peruerted papist. Or a little labour of a lay men tending to the profit of a peruerted Papist: namely, by laying open vnto him his ovvne errour, in beleeuing that the Church of Rome cannot erre. Composed in dialogue maner, as it were betweene a simple lay man, and certayne graue diuines, and published onely for the benefit of the lay Papist. VVritten by R.M. gent. and student in Diuinity. R. M., student in divinity. 1609 (1609) STC 17149; ESTC S103258 25,816 46

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s._n john_n he_o himself_o do_v expound_v how_o that_o may_v be_v do_v which_o he_o speak_v of_o &_o what_o it_o be_v to_o eat_v his_o body_n and_o drink_v his_o blood_n he_o which_o eat_v my_o flesh_n and_o drink_v my_o blood_n say_v he_o dwell_v in_o i_o 56._o i_o john_n 6._o 56._o &_o i●n_v he_o this_o it_o be_v then_o to_o eat_v that_o meat_n and_o drink_v that_o blood_n to_o dwell_v in_o christ_n and_o to_o have_v christ_n dwell_v in_o he_o and_o by_o this_o he_o that_o dwell_v not_o in_o christ_n and_o in_o who_o christ_n do_v not_o dwell_v without_o doubt_n he_o neither_o eat_v his_o flesh_n nor_o drink_v his_o blood_n spiritual_o although_o carnal_o and_o visible_o he_o press_v with_o his_o tooth_n the_o sacrament_n of_o his_o body_n and_o blood_n but_o rather_o he_o do_v eat_v and_o drink_v the_o sacrament_n of_o so_o great_a a_o thing_n to_o his_o own_o judgement_n because_o he_o presume_v to_o come_v unclean_a to_o the_o sacrament_n of_o christ_n which_o no_o man_n receyve_v 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