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A19938 A catechisme wherin is contained the true grounds of the articles of the Christian faith, contained in the Lords prayer and the Creed, by way of question and answer betweene Protestant and Papist. Diuided into twenty Saboth exercises, for children to learne the Christian religion. Davis, Francis, fl. 1612. 1612 (1612) STC 6368; ESTC S117500 15,595 46

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hath receiued a name or dignity passing all other Pro. Euen so it is The fourteenth Sunday Pap. Goe foreward to the residue Pro. From thence he will come to iudge the quick and the dead that is to say he will come downe from heauen and shew himselfe visible once againe in iudgement as he was seene to ascend Pap. Seing the iudgement of God shall be in the end of the world how may that bee which thou sayest some shall bee aliue and other shal be dead since it is a thing appointed vnto all men to dye once Pro. Saint Paul maketh answere to this Question himselfe saying that they which shall be left aliue at that time shall be suddenly changed to the end that their corruptible nature beeing abollished they may be clothed with incorruption Pap. Thy meaning is then that this change shall bee vnto them in stead of a Death in so much as it shall abollish their former nature and make them rise againe in a new state Pro. Truth it is Pap. Doe wee receiue any comfort by this that our Sauiour Christ shall come to iudge the world Pro. Yea verily and that great for we are taught certainly that his comming at that time shall be onely for our saluation Pap. Then there is no cause why we should be afraid of the day of iudgment or that we should tremble therefore Pro. No truly for that we shall apeare before no other Iudge but him who is our Aduocate and hath taken vpon him to defend our cause The fifteenth Sunday Pap. Let vs now come to the third part Pro. That concerneth our saith in the holy Ghost Pap. And to what purpose doth it serue vs Pro. It doth vs to vnderstand that euen as God hath redéemed vs and saued vs in Iesus Christ euen so it pleased him to make vs pertakers of his redemption and saluation thorow his holy spirit Pap. How so Pro. In like manner as the bloud of Christ is the onely purgation of our soules euen so the holy Ghost must sprinckle out consciences with the same to make them cleane Pap. This needeth a more euident declaration Pro. It is to say that the spirit of God dwelling in our hartes doth make vs féele the vertue of our Lord Iesus The sixteenth Sunday Pap. what followeth now next Pro. The fourth part of our beleefe where it is said I beléeue that there is an holy vniuersall Church Pap. what is the Church vniuersall Pro. It is the body and fellowshippe of them that doe beleeue whom God hath ordained and chosen vnto life euerlasting Pap. Is it necessary that wee beleeue this Article Pro. Yea vnlesse wee minde to make Christs death of none effect and make all those things to no purpose which we haue rehearsed already for all Christs dooings prooues there is a Church Pap. This is then thy saying that all which hetherto hath beene declared doth touch the cause and ground of our saluation in so much as God hath receiued vs into his fauor by the meane of our Sauiour Christ and hath established this grace in vs through his holy spirit but now the effect that commeth of all this is declared vnto vs to giue the more euident assurance thereof Pro. It is euen so Pap. What meanest thou by calling the Church holy Pro. I call the Church holy in this sence because that those whom God hath chosen be iustifieth and reformeth vnto holynesse and innocency of life to make his glory to shine in them and also our Sauiour Christ hath sanctified his Church which he redéemed To the end it might bee glorious and without spotte Pap. What meaneth this word Catholike or vniuersall Pro. It serueth to put vs in remembrance that as there is but one head of the faithfull euen so it behoueth them to be knit together in one body so that there bee not diuers Churches but one Church onely dispersed through out the whole world Pap. Declare as touching the communion of Saints Pro. That clause is put too for a more plaine declaration of the vnity of the members of Christs Church Moreouer it doth vs to vnderstand that all the benefits that Christ hath giuen to his Church belongeth to the profit and saluation of euery faithfull person for so much as they haue all a community together The seuenteenth Sunday Pap. But is this holynesse of that Church now already perfect Pro. No verily for it is in continuall battaile so long as it is in this world and laboureth alwayes vnder imperfection and infirmities which shall neuer bee cleane taken away vntill it be altogether coupled to her head Christ by whom it is perfectly sanctified Pap. Is there none other way to know this Church but by faith Pro. Yes verily there is a Church which may be séene to the eye for somuch as God hath giuen sure tokens by the which wee may know the same But héere in this place mention is made properly of that Church which hee hath chosen by his secret election to euerlasting life the which cannot be perfectly discerned by our sences Pap. What is there more Pro. I beléeue the remission of sinnes Pap. What is the proper signification of this word remission Pro. That God doth fréely forgiue all the sinnes of them which beléeue in him in such sort that they shall neuer bee called to any account to receiue any punishment therefore Pap. It is easie then to be gathered of this that we do not merit by our owne satisfaction that God should pardon our sinnes Pro. Yée say true for our Sauiour Christ hath made satisfaction by suffering the paine due vnto the same for we of our part be not able to make any recompence to God but of his méete liberality wee obtaine this benefit freely Pap. Wherefore doost thou make mention of remission of sinnes immediatly after thou hast spoken of the Church Pro. Because that no man can receiue forgiuenesse of sinnes vnlesse he be ioyned in the fellowship of Gods people and so continue in the vnity of Christs body euen to the end like a true member of his Church Pap. By this saying then without the Church there is nothing but hell death and damnation Pro. That is most certaine for all such as do deuide themselues from the body of Christ to breake the vnity there by sects are vtterly destitute of all hope to enioy euerlasting life whiles they kéepe themselues so deuided The eighteenth Sunday Pap. What followeth more Pro. The rising againe of the body and life euerlasting Pap. Whereto serueth this Article of our beleefe Pro. To teach that our felicity consisteth not in any thing vppon earth the which knowledge may serue vs for two necessary purposes first it teacheth vs to passe through this transitory world as through a strange Contrey setting not by earthly thinges Secondly it putteth vs in comfort that although we doe not as yet enioy the fruit of that grace which our Lord God hath freely giuen vs in Christ that yet wee
is it not a great reproch and dishonor vnto our Lord Iesus Christ to say that hee was accursed and that before God Pro. No not a whit for he through his almighty power by taking the cursse from vs vnto himselfe did in such sort make it voide and of none effect that hee himselfe neuerthelesse continued still so blessed that hee was able to fill vs also with his blessings Pap. Declare that followeth Pro. In so much as death was a punishment appointed vnto man for sinne therefore our Sauiour Christ did suffer death and by suffering ouer-came it And to the intent also to make it the more certainely knowne vnto vs that his death was not counterfeit it pleased him also to bee buried after the common manner of men Pap. But it appeareth not that any profit commeth to vs by this that Christ hath wonne the victory of death seeing that wee notwithstanding cease not to dye Pro. That doth not hinder for the death of the faithfull is now nothing else but a ready passage to a better life Pap. It followeth then necessary hereof that wee ought in no wise to bee afraide of death as though it were a dreadfull thing but rather it behooueth vs willingly to walke the trace of our head and Captaine Iesus Christ Pro. It is euen so The tenth Sunday Pap. What is the sence of that clause Hee descended into Hell Pro. That Christ did not onely suffer naturall death which is a separation of the soule from the body but also that his soule after this seperation did descend into Hell or the place of the damned Pap. For what consideration would hee descend thither Pro. To shew the wicked that they were iustly condemned because they beléeued not in him and to triumph ouer the diuell in his own tents whither he pursued him and that his victorie and the soueraintie of his humane nature might appeare ouer all and lastly that we might not descend and abide there for euer he descended and returned according as it was prophecied of him Thou wilt not leaue my soule in Hell nor suffer thy holy one to see corruption Pap. Was his descending into Hell a part of his passion or humiliation Pro. No but of his victory and exaltation according to that testimony of S. Paul He spoiled principalities and powers and he led captiuity captiue This he did in Hell euen in that place where the Diuell had most power whereby both the diuell might be the more disgraced and Christ himselfe more honoured Pap. What testimonies of Scripture haue you to prooue this Pro. Psal 16.10 Thou wilt not leaue my soule in Hell which is cited by Saint Peter Act. 2.31 also Eph. 4.9 In that he ascended what is it but that hee sirst descended into the lowest parts of the earth Also Rom. 10.7 say not in thy heart who shall ascend into Heauen this is to bring downe Christ or who shall descend into the deepe this is to bring Christ againe from the dead what can be vnderstood by the déepe but Hell as it is taken Luc. 8.31 And they requested him not to send them into the deepe The eleuenth Sunday Pap. May wee now gather by this what profit commeth to the faithfull by the death of Iesus Christ Pro. Yea very well and first of all wee sée that it is a sacrifice wherewith he hath fully satisfied his Fathers iudgment in our behalfe and thereby also he hath appeased Gods wrath and hath brought vs into his fauour againe Secondly that his bloud is a washing of our soules from all maner of spottes And finally that hee hath so cleane wiped away our sinnes through his death that GOD will neuer here-after haue remembrance of them so that the Obligation which was against vs is now cancelled and made voyde Pap. Haue wee none other profit of his death Pro. Yes verily that is if wee bee true members of Christ our old man is crucified and our flesh is mortified to the end that none euill lusts doe hereafter beare rule in vs. The twelfth sunday Papist Expound the Article following Pro. Hee rose the third day from death to life wherein hee shewed that hee had gotten the victory of death and sinne For through his resurrection hee hath swallowed vp death hee brake a sunder the chaines of the diuell and finally hee destroyed all his power Pap. Tell mee how many wayes this resurrection of Christ doth profit vs Pro. Thrée manner of wayes The first that wee haue fully obtained to bee righteous thereby Secondly it is a sure gage of our immortality Thirdly that if wee bee indéed truly pertakers of his resurrection wee rise now in this present world into a new kinde of life whereby wee serue GOD onely and lead our liues agréeable to his will The thirteenth Sunday Papist Let vs now goe forward to the rest Pro. Hee ascended into heauen Pap. Went CHRIST vp into heauen in such sort that hee is no longer in the earth Pro. Yea for when hee had performed wholy all things that were enioyned him by the commandement of his Father and had accomplished all that was necessary for our saluation it was not néedfull hee should remaine any longer in the world Pap. What profit haue we by this Ascension Pro. We receiue double profit thereby for since that our Sauiour Christ is entred into Heauen in our name euen in like maner as he came down from thence for our sakes he hath therby made an open entry into the same place for vs giuing withal an assured knowledge that the gate of heauen is now open to receiue vs which was before shut through our sinnes The second profit is that he appeared in the sight of God the father to make Intercession for vs and to bee our Aduocate to make answere for vs. Pap. But is our sauiour Christ so ascended into heauen that hee is no more heere with vs Pro. Not so for hée him-selfe promiseth the contrary that is that he will bee present with vs vnto the worlds end Pap. Is it ment of his bodily presence that hee maketh promise soe to continue with vs Pro. No verily for it is another matter to speake of his body which was taken vp into Heauen and of his power which is spred abroad throughout the whole world Pap. Declare the meaning of this sentence he sitteth at the right hand of God the Father Pro. The vnderstanding of that is that he hath receiued into his handes the gouernance of Heauen and Earth whereby he is King and Ruler ouer all Pap. What signifieth this word right hand and the sitting at the right hand Pro. It is a similitude or manner of spéech borrowed of earthly Princes which are wont to place on their right side such as they substitute next vnder them to rule in their name Pap. Then thou meanest nothing else therby but that which Saint Paul speaketh that he was appointed head of the Church set in authority aboue all powers and that he