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protestant_n therein_o and_o from_o this_o great_a conformity_n of_o negative_a faith_n between_o the_o heathen_a and_o the_o protestant_n it_o rise_v that_o diverse_a protestant_n do_v whole_o gentilize_v herein_o grant_v salvation_n and_o eternal_a happiness_n to_o heathen_n die_v heathen_n thus_o for_o example_n we_o find_v no_o less_o a_o obscure_a protestant_n than_o swinglius_n to_o write_v in_o this_o sort_n 39_o sort_n zw_v in_o l_o epist_n swingl_n &_o oecolamp_n lib._n 1._o pag._n 39_o ethnicus_fw-la si_fw-la piam_fw-la mentem_fw-la domi_fw-la foverit_fw-la christianus_n est_fw-la etiamsi_fw-la christum_fw-la ignoret_fw-la and_o thereupon_o swinglius_n conclude_v particular_o that_o 559._o that_o swing_n tom_fw-mi 2._o fol._n 118._o &_o 559._o hercules_n theseus_n socrates_n aristides_n etc._n etc._n be_v now_o in_o heaven_n a_o point_n so_o confess_v by_o swinglius_n that_o echarius_n a_o learned_a protestant_n thus_o acknowledge_v of_o swinglius_n quod_fw-la 427._o quod_fw-la in_o his_o fasâ—iculus_fw-la controver_n print_a lipsiae_n a_o 1009._o cap._n 19_o p._n 427._o socrates_n aristides_n numa_n camillus_n hercules_n scipiones_n catone_n &_o alij_fw-la gentile_n comparticipes_fw-la sint_fw-la aquavitae_fw-la eternae_fw-la scribit_fw-la quidem_fw-la swinglius_n ad_fw-la regem_fw-la galliae_fw-la quem_fw-la defendunt_fw-la tigurim_fw-la bullingerus_n gualterus_n hardenburgius_n etc._n etc._n that_o these_o name_v protestant_n i_o mean_v i_o swingl_n i_o gualterus_n in_o his_o apolog._n p_o o_o swiâ—g_n fol._n 27._o praefix_v 1._o tom_n oper_n swingl_n gualterus_n 559._o gualterus_n bull_v in_o confess_v eccles_n tigurin_n &_o bullin_n in_o his_o preface_n of_o allowance_n to_o swingl_n his_o exposition_n fidei_fw-la ad_fw-la regem_fw-la fol._n 559._o bullinger_n bullingeri_fw-la bullinger_n simlerus_n in_o vita_fw-la bullingeri_fw-la simlerus_n the_o tigurine_a divine_v do_v defend_v with_o swinglius_n the_o saluavation_n of_o the_o heathen_n 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that_o the_o protestant_n do_v agree_v with_o the_o heathen_a philosopher_n in_o the_o denial_n of_o the_o say_a point_n affirm_v by_o the_o catholic_a neither_o avail_v it_o any_o thing_n to_o say_v that_o though_o the_o protestant_n hould_v the_o negative_a part_n in_o the_o former_a conclusion_n yet_o that_o he_o believe_v with_o the_o catholic_a in_o christ_n that_o he_o hould_v with_o he_o there_o be_v grace_n that_o there_o be_v sacrament_n that_o there_o be_v scripture_n etc._n etc._n though_o in_o the_o manner_n or_o some_o other_o circumstance_n accompany_v they_o he_o differ_v from_o the_o catholic_a this_o solu_v not_o the_o doubt_n first_o because_o we_o observe_v that_o swinglius_n &_o those_o other_o protestant_n above_o cite_v do_v not_o exact_v any_o articulate_a belief_n in_o christ_n at_o all_o as_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n since_o we_o see_v they_o be_v not_o afraid_a to_o indenize_v heathen_n for_o good_a christian_n second_o in_o that_o i_o restrain_v this_o 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the_o negative_a and_o even_o where_o he_o hould_v the_o affirmative_a foundation_n in_o some_o of_o the_o say_a point_n as_o that_o christ_n be_v the_o saviour_n of_o the_o world_n that_o there_o be_v divine_a scripture_n grace_n sacrament_n baptism_n eucharist_n etc._n etc._n
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believe_v they_o shall_v offend_v god_n by_o such_o their_o resistance_n and_o so_o by_o this_o mean_v they_o shall_v commit_v sin_n rather_o than_o have_v their_o original_a sin_n remit_v again_o how_o can_v infant_n believe_v except_o they_o hear_v 10_o hear_v rom._n 10_o fides_n ex_fw-la auditu_fw-la thus_o i_o leave_v to_o every_o one_o to_o judge_v of_o what_o truth_n of_o be_v or_o real_a existency_n this_o doctrine_n have_v in_o itself_o and_o thus_o far_o of_o these_o former_a aery_a speculation_n of_o doctrine_n broach_v by_o the_o protestant_n though_o but_o brief_o touch_v by_o i_o for_o how_o can_v one_o well_o extend_v himself_o in_o discourse_v of_o such_o point_n which_o in_o themselves_o do_v want_v all_o extension_n in_o the_o unfould_n whereof_o i_o labour_v not_o so_o much_o to_o display_v the_o falsehood_n &_o absurdity_n of_o they_o which_o nevertheless_o incident_o be_v by_o this_o mean_n partly_o discover_v as_o to_o make_v evident_a according_a to_o my_o 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what_o other_o thing_n be_v this_o church_n than_o a_o bare_a intention_n as_o â—he_v philosopher_n speak_v or_o phantasm_n wrought_v in_o the_o shop_n of_o his_o own_o brain_n for_o first_o see_v no_o man_n can_v know_v who_o be_v those_o other_o man_n who_o be_v of_o the_o elect_n &_o who_o true_o believe_v how_o can_v it_o be_v know_v who_o be_v the_o member_n who_o make_v this_o church_n or_o where_o it_o be_v again_o this_o definition_n rather_o destroy_v and_o take_v away_o the_o church_n then_o describe_v or_o constitute_v it_o for_o if_o all_o the_o work_v even_o of_o the_o justify_v be_v mortal_a sin_n as_o 32._o as_o luth._o in_o assert_v art_n 32._o luther_n and_o 20._o and_o art_n 6._o &_o 20._o confessio_fw-la augustana_n do_v teach_v and_o that_o if_o only_a the_o â—ust_z do_v make_v this_o church_n then_o follow_v that_o no_o man_n be_v of_o the_o church_n and_o consequent_o that_o the_o protestant_a church_n thus_o define_v be_v but_o a_o mere_a platonical_a idea_n 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