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A17191 A most godly and learned discourse of the woorthynesse, authoritie, and sufficiencie of the holy scripture also of the cleerenesse, and plainnesse of the same, and of the true vse thereof. Wherin is discussed this famous question: whether the canonical scriptures haue authoritie from the church, or rather the church receiue authoritie from the Scriptures. By occasion wherof are touched the dignities and duties of the church, touching traditions, with aunswere to all obiections. Translated out of Latine into English, by Iohn Tomkys: and dedicated to the right honorable Sir Richarde Pipe, knight, lorde maior of the citie of London.; De scripturae sanctae praestantia. English. Tomkys, John.; Bullinger, Heinrich, 1504-1575. 1579 (1579) STC 4067; ESTC S112817 96,469 260

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which thrust vpon vs a doctrine defiled and corrupted with the deuises of men in steade of the true doctrine of Christ and his Church endeuouring to bring to passe with fires with flames with water with swoorde and with halter more cruelly than euer did Nero or Dioclesian that we shoulde receiue the sayde doctrine as God his woorde because it is approued and confirmed by the Decrees and Councels of men So that wee being become the Disciples and scholers not of Christ the chiefe and heauenly maister but of men shoulde hang not of the authoritie of GOD but of men and worshippe him not after that Religion which was appointed by his owne lawes but after that Religion which mans rashnesse and boldenesse hath deuised and counterfeited With so great Religion forsooth is the fiercenesse of crueltie clothed The Samaritanes being moued by a woman of their owne nation after that they had 〈◊〉 Christ themselues answered that did no longer beleue Christ because ●e womans wordes but because they heard Christ themselues But howe ●h more rightly shal we answere these ●cers of mindes which goe about by ●eanes possible not to leade vs to ●ist as did that woman of Samaria to turne vs from him that wee doe beleeue them but Christ and that ●e doe not for their sake imbrace the ●●spel but because wee haue hearde ●ist himselfe teache and that wee doe 〈◊〉 therefore approoue and receiue their ●●cked deuises because they set them ●ale vnder the pretence of the Churche 〈◊〉 Councels but that wee doe con●ntly refuse and detest them because ●y are manifestly agaynst GOD 〈◊〉 trueth and because they doe their ●st endeuour to make the authoritie 〈◊〉 GOD subiect to the authoritie of ●n And what madnesse is this in that ●●ey saye that it was done without the ●ill of GOD that the Apostles and Euangelists write the Gospel when as in the first writing of the newe Testamēt that is to say in the Epistle of the Synod of the Apostles this gorgious flower is expressely read It seemed good to the holy Ghost Paule also witnesseth that all Scripture is geuen by inspiration of god To be briefe Iohn in the Reuelation is cōmaunded often to write for the instruction of the Church Yea the Lorde himselfe witnesseth It is not yee that speake but the spirite of your Father he it is which speaketh in you And we place speaking writing both in one degree so that he which said God into all the worlde and preach vnderstoode that the Gospel was also spread abroade by writing forsomuche as writing is plainely contained vnder doctrine To conclude the Catholike Church with one consent doeth witnesse that the bookes of the niewe Testament were written by the instinct of the holie Ghoste Doe these men with whom ▪ so ofte as they liste it is a greate offence to departe euen a little from the consente of the Churche not onelie ●●●●rt from it but are directly contrarie 〈◊〉 it I meane in this place to repeate discusse the most beautifull sentence ●●enaeus lately cited And this is it ●t is the onely true and liuely fayth ●●●ch the Church hath learned of the ●●ostles and distributed to her chil●●●n For the Lord of all gaue to his ●●ostles the power of the Gospel ●row whom we haue also knowne truth that is to say the doctrine of 〈◊〉 sonne of God to whom the Lord 〈◊〉 also he that heareth you heareth 〈◊〉 and he that despiseth you despi● me and him that sent me For we ●e not knowne the disposing of our ●ation thorow anie other but tho●●w them by whom the Gospel came ●o vs which then they preached ●d afterward thorow the will of God ●iuered vnto vs in the Scriptures to the foundation and piller of our ●th This sentence of Irenaeus spea●h generally of the Scripture of the 〈◊〉 Testament the authoritie perfecti●● and sufficiencie whereof he sheweth 〈◊〉 most strong demonstration That is without controuersie the onely true and liuely faith which the primitiue Church receiued from the Apostles and distributed to her children This faith was in the beginning conceiued of that doctrine which the Apostles receiued from the sonne of god And this doctrine whereof the faith of the primitiue Church sprang did the Apostles deliuer first without writing by liuely voice Afterwarde they put the same doctrine in writing By what aduise Was it by the aduise of man No but by the will of god But did they put the same doctrine in writing Euen the verie same which being receiued from the sonne of God they preached with liuely voyce out of the which onely the Primitiue Church receiued the true and liuely fayth from the Apostles and distributed it to her children Wherevnto tendeth this That these particular Churches onely vnto whom the Epistles of the Apostles were writtē should vse those writings for thei● present necessitie onely Not so Vnto vs say I haue the Apostles deliuered in the Scriptures the selfe same which they ●●●ached Remember that the Epi●s of the Apostles sayth Augustine 〈◊〉 not written for them onely which ●ard them in the same time when ●●ey were written but for vs also nei●●er are they recited in the Churche 〈◊〉 anie other purpose And what 〈◊〉 of the sayde Scripture woulde the A●●stles shoulde bee in the Church Ire●us answereth that that which they ●iuered to vs in the Scriptures might ●e in time to come the foundation and ●er of our faith euen of that true and ●ely fayth which the Church receiued the Apostles distributed to her chil●●en Therefore we haue the foundation ●d piller of fayth in the Scriptures ●iche the Apostles by the will of God ●●ue deliuered to vs Therfore that faith ●●ich is conceiued proued confirmed ●●th of any other then of the Scriptures ●iuered by the Apostles is not the true ●ely faith the Apostolike faith the faith the Primitiue Church These things most manifestly firmly agre togither 〈◊〉 Irenaeus his demōstration Therefore ●e ▪ sheweth for what purpose the Apostles deliuered their doctrine to vs in the scriptures and what they would the end of the sayde scripture should bee in the Church euen that it might be the foundation and piller of our faith which hau● not heard the liuely voice of the Apostles For wee will hereafter consider those thinges whiche Irenaeus in the same place reporteth of the accusers of th● Scriptures And that yet there wicked vaniti● may more plainly appeare which dar● affirme that it was not done by the commandement of Christ that the Euangelists and Apostles committed certain● things to writing I will bring concerning this matter the most cleare witne● of Saint Augustine Hee in the firs● booke of the consent of the Euangelist the last chapter sayeth thus Through the manhoode which he tooke vpon him hee is the heade of all his Disciples as of the members of his own bodie Therefore when they wrote these