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A14159 The refutation of ane ansuer made be Schir Iohne Knox to ane letter send be Iames Tyrie, to his vmquhyle brother. Sett furth be Iames Tyrie. Tyrie, James, 1543-1597.; Knox, John, ca. 1514-1572. Answer to a letter of a Jesuit named Tyrie. 1573 (1573) STC 24476; ESTC S101283 83,074 128

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