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A94218 An anti-diatribe: or The apologie of some ministers and godly people, asserting the lawfulnesse of their administring the Lords Supper in a select company proving also the necessity of examination in our congregations, in order to a more holy church-fellowship. Wherein a paper is answered, bearing this title, viz, A diatribe concerning the administration of the Eucharist and examination thereunto precedent. Together, with a vindication of the Lords Supper from its manifest abuse by a general admission; being an answer to Mr. Humphrey. By Humphrey Saunders Minister of Hollesworthy in Devon. Saunders, Humphrey.; Manton, Thomas, 1620-1677. 1655 (1655) Wing S746A; ESTC R229794 95,185 240

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