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A58149 Gerizim and Ebal (Election and reprobation), or, The absolute good pleasure of Gods most holy will to all the sons of Adam, specificated viz. to vessels of mercy in their eternal election, and to vessels of wrath in their eternal reprobation : being an answer to a spurious pamphlet lately crept into the world, which was fathered by Thomas Tazwell : wherein the texts of Scripture by him are perverted and vindicated, his corrupt glosses brought to light and purged, his shuffling and ambiguous dealing discovered, and the truth in all fully cleared / by James Rawson ... Rawson, James. 1658 (1658) Wing R377; ESTC R14587 197,701 236

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corrupted with covetous practises in these our dayes that they have forsaken the right way and are gone astray following the way of Baalam the son of Bosar who loved the wages of unrighteousness for some have withdrawn themselves from the truth that they might be partakers with you in their tithes and offerings and some also have been led away by the temptations of Satan and good is the word of the Lord which hath said Acts 20.30 that of your own selves shall men arise speaking perverse things to draw away disciples after them But it may be as truly said that Jesus is not the Christ because one of his ministers left him and betrayed him as it can be said that this is not the way of Christ because some turn from it and prove traytors thereunto Answ I shall agree with you that the deserting of an opinion which a man formerly did maintain or the declining the society of such with whom before he held fellowship is no infallible Argument either of the unsoundness of such an opinion or insufferableness of such a society Yet withal I must tell you when I see a man taking as it were a lap at the opinions of any one sect tanquam canis ad Nilum and so would that and so goes on to another sect and after to another as by woful experience we have found in our daies that such unfixed men never set a period to themselves in their innovating of their opinions but by a lamentable gradation jumpe from one to another and so they may ad insinitum and this methinks should be an evident sign to me that such Positions and societies were somewhat unsavoury The like do I say for matter of division of which thus you write neither is the division which you talk of amongst the servants of Christ any safe argument to conclude that therefore they are not the servants of Christ for such things have fallen out amongst those that have been called saints and p ecious in the sight of God in that some have been and are weak and some are strong and so as there are degrees of knowledge amongst the Saints it doth o●casion some difference as it hath formerly done do we not find that even two of the Apostles to wit Paul and Barnabas Acts 15.39 men that truly feared God were at some difference when the men of Ephesus that were Idolaters can ry all with one voyce Acts 19.34 Great is Diana of the Ephesians Answ I yield you all But when I see the Anabaptists divided amongst themselves and thei opinions so inconsistent one with anothers as it might be easily in●●anced by those interfering confessions and positions of those of Chard Islington and those of yours but all of them joyntly so destructive to publick peace I may probably con●ecture that i● is a shrewd prognostick that their Kingdom is not long to continue For that which you say further and whereas you say that they have left their Conventicles to be gulled and deluded by the dregs of men c. I must tell you that those dregs of men as you are pleased disdainfully and in scorn to call them will prove to be those 1 Cor. 1.27 28. foolish things of the world which God hath chosen to confound the wise and weak things of the world to confound the mighty and base things of the world and things which are despised which God hath chosen to confound those that boast so much of their own wisdome and learning which hath been bought for mony Answ In answer whereto I shall say no more but this that it is vox praterea nihil a great crack of words that signifie nothing they would have passed better if they had proceeded out of any mans mouth besides your own Phil. 2.3 Prov. 26.12 Sir where the spirit of Christ is it is still accompanied with humility and self-denyal and such esteem of others better then themselves Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit there is more hope of a fool then of him 1 Cor. 8.2 1 Cor. 13.9 Act. 8.20 And for what learning and wisdom God hath been pleased to endow any of us withal we do and must acknowledge it is all beyond desert and that as yet We know nothing as we ought to know for in this military course of ours we know but in part Nay t is God especially who illuminates our weak understanding and therefore their money perish with them that think that the gift of God may be purchased with money To con lude the preface you write But it seemeth that this man by his writing hath not been much acquainted with that which is held by those which he is pleased to call Lunatick spirits and therefore that which he at the first sight hastily judgeth to be errour may upon better trial prove to be truth which useth to be unsavoury to those that delight in worldly gain Act. 16.19 and are exercised in a craft by which they have their wealth Acts 19.35 therefore I do not much wonder that my Position are unsavoury to Parson Lawson and so having examined those Arguments which are brought against them with much boasting of being unanswerable I shall endeavour by the assistance of the most High God to answer to his Arguments in order as they are stated Answ I have I confess been a good space of time an enquirer into your principles and an observer of your ways but never had so full an occasion to dive into the depth of that mystery of iniquity till I met with your papers and do now protest that the more I search into it the worse I like it and therefore shall say as formerly Gen 41.6 O my soul come not thou into their secret into their Assembly mine honour be not thou united And having thus routed your Preface and laid it even with the ground I apply my self to enter the listes with you about your Positions wherein you assault me thus The first of the Positions is by this man granted to be a truth viz. Position 1. That the most holy and high God did from all eternity by one sole and single act see all whatsoever he purposed to do or appoint to be done by any of his creatures Answ Good Sir be pleased to revise your own Position again and you will find that as it is thus stated it is onely my concession and not your Position indeed I was ashamed to see such high mysteries to be put into such an ugly dress so manacled tortured and unjoynted that a man could not well distinguish between head and heel and therefore by your good leave I made bold to new model your Position and put it into this ga●be as now you see it and so as here posited I own it and do affirm it true but as by you first asserted it may be lyable to many exceptions which because you seem to wave and by disclaiming your own have adopted this as legitimate I will