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A91949 The eighth part of The Christian-Quaker distinguished from the apostate & innovator wherein certain doctrines ... are examined, and in order to a decision of the controversie ... an adress [sic] is made to a book entituled, An Adress to Protestants, given forth by W.P. anno 1679 ... / by W.R.; Christian-Quaker distinguished from the apostate & innovator. Part 8 Rogers, William, d. ca. 1709. 1682 (1682) Wing R1859; ESTC R42303 16,087 16

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the few cunning men govern the majority and entitle their Conceits The Canons of Christs Church and all this comes from the ignorance and idleness of the People that give the Pride and Industry of the Clergy an opportunity to effect their Crafts upon them for so mean Spirited are the People as to take all upon trust for their Souls At present let thus much suffice on the occasion of the Second-days Meeting using of the word Rebellion And whereas in the Third Part of the Christian-Quaker pag. 9. We say that there is no ground either from the Scriptures of Truth without us or Light of Christ within us to believe that any Christian Professor can in truth affirm That there are Outward Prescriptions and Orders given forth by the Spirit of God through any one or more mortal men in this our day which others ought to obey and follow whether they see it their Duty or no this in the 122. page of the Accuser c. is termed very frivolous and loose and will serve only for a pretence to loose Spirits c. who will be apt to pretend they see it not their Duty I must confess it is cause of great amazement when I do but consider with what confidence the Pen-man of the Book stiled The Accuser c. writes touching Rebellion Confusion c. and that when all is said relative thereto I cannot find the least real ground for using those Terms nor yet any pretended ground more than such an one as in the view of a rational man may seem to bespeak the nameless Pen-man and his nameless Brethren dignifying themselves by their own Constitution and being pleased with a whimsical imagination of being as I take it from their 42 Dissafection pages 116. 117. c. visible Representatives of Christs Inward Government are even drunk with desire after Submission from such as were their Brethren Alas What sort of Dignity can Persons hiding their Names pretend unto or how can they expect that any should submit unto their Government They would be reputed to aim only at an Apostolick Dignity but therein the Pen-man hath evidently betrayed their Cause For who so ignorant as not to know that the Testimony of the Primitive Quakers seemed the more piercing when in the Name of the Lord they had declared unto the Sons of Men that as in the Apostles days the Lord was pleased to make use of mean Persons exercised in Outward Callings to publish the Everlasting Gospel so is it at this day but yet I doubt the Pride of the Penman of The Accuser c. is now so great as to account the Exercise of a poor Shoemaker therein to be contemptible for page 201. he thus signifies in his own very words By all which he endeavours to make G. F. as contemptibbe as he can Meaning my declaring in the Fourth Part of the Christian-Quaker c. page 64. that G. F. was a poor Shoemaker which G. F's Letter to John Wilkingson did naturally lead me to speak of but least any should think I was so irreligious as to think his Meanness or Trade matter of contempt I did thereupon thus write For his meaunèss he neither was PLACE = marg See 4th part C. Q. pag. 64. nor is despised as we know of for that cannot savour of a Christian Spirit And further also thus I can truly say and so I believe many more can PLACE = marg See 5th part p. 48. that in his Person I accounted the Testimony of the Apostle Paul fulfilled who said God hath chosen the foolish things of the World to confound the wise and God hath chosen the weak things of the World to confound the Mighty and base things of the World and things which are despised hath God chosen yea and things which are not to bring to nought things which are that no Flesh should glory in his presence And partly on this score can I in the Fear of the Lord say and that justly too that he was to me whil'st he kept his Place and Habitation in the Truth truly honourable This clearly shews that my Principle and Practice gives no countenance to such a Contempt spoken of by the aforesaid Penman and if ●is Pride had not led him really to believe that the knowledge of G. F's being a Shoemaker is matter of Contempt now why hath he not taken care to quit himself and his Brethren from that censure as I have done but of that I remember not a word in his whole Tract 'T is well known that the Sin usually besetting some sort of Governours is Pride and Scorn T●is seems to be one part of them complexion of the nameless Pen-man of the Accuser c. For from his work he seems to me that he is not only proudly puffed up with the meer empty conceit of Government and with the thoughts of being a Governour whil'st in reality opposing the exaltation of Christs Government in the Heart but also as if he were perplext that the Trade of the Person whose Cause he hath espoused should be Recorded least it should eclipse the Glory of G. F. as no suitable Ornament to the Attendance and Outward Enjoyments wherewith he hath been acquainted of late years But this is not all to shew the Pride accompanying Truths Opposers For 't is known to many that G. F. hath been much disturbed at the relation signifying that he was a Shoemaker and is that which hath seemed to be uppermost in his Head when some Friends have had occasion of discourse with him which I take to be a meer badge of his Pride and Scorn Who can reasonably suppose that G. F. and his Adherents did ever make it the subject Matter of their Discourses to signifie that poor Fishermen and Tent-makers were called to the Work of the Ministry and that in order to the confounding those Learned Rabbies that despised their mean Education though now such like are searcht into by their Learned Rich. Richardson to save the Head of G. F's tottering Cause Alas 't is but too plain to me that G. F. c. are better affected with such Grandure as is obtained by the great pretended Successor of Peter than that little worldly Reputation that the Apostle Peter in his day was accompanied with and further to clear my Conscience on this subject let G. F. know whether he can receive it or no that in probability the Name of a Quaker might not have been so much despised by many as it now is had he but followed the Example of W. D. one of the first Preachers of the Light and other his Fellow Labourers keeping as they did at some honest Outward Calling instead of muddling his head to bring about a Conformity to his Outward Orders for I am fully satisfied in my Conscience that that noysome sent which hath arisen like a smoak from the bottomless Pit hath been occasioned from an Antichristian Promotion of his Outward Orders and indeed how can it be otherwise