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A89824	An answer to a book called The Quakers catechism, put out by Richard Baxter. Wherein the slanderer is searched, his questions answered, and his deceit discovered, whereby the simple have been deceived: and the popery proved in his own bosom, which he would cast upon the Quakers. Published for the sake of all who desire to come out of Babylon, to the foundation of the true prophets and apostles, where Christ Iesus is the light and corner stone; where God is building a habitation of righteousness and everlasting peace; where the children of light do rest. Also some quæries for the discovering the false grounds of the literal preist-hood of these days, in the last times of antichrist. If you know the truth, the truth shall make you free. / Iames Nailor.	Naylor, James, 1617?-1660.	1655 (1655)	Wing N258; Thomason E851_1; ESTC R207416	51,999	51

in you quakers I say Iohn was there shewing to little children that there could be none free from sin further then they was in Christ not in selfe nor while any thing of self remained therefore sayes if we so think we deceive our selves and though Iohn say we yet was it not his condition but as he comes down to them to minister to their measures who was not yet cleansed so he saith we whereof he was not guilty no more than Iames the Apostle was of cursing men with his Tongue where he saith therewith bless we God therewith curse we men Iam. 3 9. And many other places of Scripture where they come down to the condition of the weak yet partake of no mans sin though such ●nclean beasts as thee would take these Scriptures to plead for sin so long as the world stands which Iohn wrote that they sinned not and thou concludes with this question if you think you are perfect without sin whether do you also think that you are already in heaven or perfect glory for what can keep the soul from perfect enjoyment of God but sin and to enjoy God perfectly is to be glorified perfectly but sayest thou I have forgot that your brethren think heaven hell is onely with●n men I say hadst thou forgot that lye it had been an injury to him whom thou serves but I find little of that forgetfulness in thy Book and for perfect enjoyment of God had not Adam in his innocency perfect enjoyment of God and Christ in his time when he was upon the earth though their bodies was upon the earth and so far as any is covered with Gods righteousness so far perfectly glorified but tho● and thy brethren knows little of this nor none that ever ●ought the honour and glory of this world the prayers of such was ever an abomination and their profession out of the saith of Christ Io●● 5. 44. Thou proceeds to ask more queries and thou desires me to speak truly to the point in question I say so I shall in plainness passing by words to no purpose And first Thou sayes are not they the very same MINISTERS you raile at which all the Drun●ards Swe●rers Whoremongers and sensuall wretches in the COUNTREY do hate and raile at and are not ye on their side and p●o●●sses the same SPIRIT would not all covetous MALIG●ANIS have Tythes down as well as you were not they of the same sort of MINISTERS which the late BISHOPS silenced is it not then the same SPIRIT by which you are acted Ans I say railing we deny and speak the truth against those we find out of the Doctrine of Christ who are one with drunkards swearers Whoremongers and sensual wretches and whose Church hearers is made up or many ●uch and who by such are upholden maintained and defended who fight for such a Ministry with clubs and stones and stocks and these are of the same spirit with them and on their side against the servants of God beating in their Synagogues and hailing out as they ever did the ministers of truth who was sent to preach the Gospel and bear witness against their false worships whom they raged against with carnal weapons as they had opportunity and for hav●ng tythes down they are so pla●n against the practise of the saints by you upholden that they are blind that sees it not yea good and bad except those who have a gain by them and I cannot blame the enemies o● God for wishing that down which is contrary to God and for Bishops silenc●ng I say you are in the same work and would silence all the appearance o● God had you power exceeding all the Bishops herein having persecuted and imprisoned more in one yeares space than the Bishops did in ten and ●or such truthes declaring as the Bishops would have been ashamed to have imprisoned for yea some of you Priests proceeding to blood with your own hands being more exceedingly mad than ever your fathers was who would pretend a law for that which they did but you have none for many things you do so you are acted by the same spirit but exceedingly heightned in rage more than ever they was Thy second Query is made up of a bundle of lyes which I shall return thee again from whence they came as first That we seduce the people from true teaching 2 That we contemn the Scriptures 3. That we prefer some Translation or Language before another 4. That we maintain free-wil before conversion 5. Or deny it to be only the fruit of the Spirit in the Elect. 6. That we hold forth any for the fulfilling the commands of God but Christ only in them that believe 7. That we make our perfection only in casting off worldly callings relations names or any other thing but in Christ himself 8. or that thou hast any thing under our hands that ●aith so 9. That we place our righteousness in our own works 10. That we deny the imputed righteousness of Christ 11. That we instead of preaching the righteousness of Christ we call out for our own formal righteousness 12. That our righteousness consists in any outward thing or places 13. That we say no man may call master o● mistris any further than Christ fo●b●ds it to the devils pride in proud men as pharises hirelings or the like 14. That our righteousness lyes in forbidding those things 15. That we are ignorant of Christs righteousness 16. That we take the most satannical lyes and slanders to be our righteousness 17. That the Papists and we conspire together These seventeen devillish lyes hast thou laid upon us yet if we so call them the father of them is offended though we have no other name for them by the Spirit of God which comes not to cover the lyar but to lay him open nor gild his works with a fine name and thou sayes thou could tel many more were it not too tedious but if thou undertake in plainness to prove but one of these thou hast telled it wil be more tedious than they are all in telling and for the Papists denying your Ministry or confessing the sufficiency of the Light of Christ or witnessing freedome from sin in him wherein by thy confession they come nearer to the truth in words than you do though as far off in practise I say shall we deny the Truth because they profess it or the light of Christ and his redemption because they profess it in words I say nay nor doth this prove us of the same Spirit with them for it is the fruits that manifests the Spirit and not words and by that we deny both the Papists and you and all that say and do not and wherein you say the truth Mat. 23 3. that we observe but do not as you do and so to the point the question is answered Quest. 3. Whether there were ever greater Monsters of ingratitude than these are who set their hearts and tongues against the Ministers

in his stead so art thou drawing downward as fast as thou canst but sayes thou the whole man in Scripture is taken for ●an the cause of life dye or be defiled the soul so by thy opinion the man is the cause of life so thou hast shewed what life thou lives and what thou knows of the soul yet thou wilt ask more queries though resolve none and first thou begins to wrangle with the command of Christ that forbids thy master-hood saying is not many words in the Scriptures translated master of as low and humble importance as ruler I say the words of Christ was ever in the way of the Hirelings and Pharisees and Priests and their pride but they could not get them removed though they was vext at them and would not have them applyed to them no more than thou but let his words alone thou must not wrest them out of their place and power thou canst not bow them but must bow to them they was given to break thee and thy pride and not to be broken by thee nor thy teachings 2 qu. Thou sayes if God bid people obey you as Rulers and the quakers perswade people to reject you as Serpents c. which is to be obeyed God or the quakers and whether is the Spirit of God or of the Devil the quakers speaks by I say God did never bid people obey Hirelings and such as are out of the Doctrine of Christ as you a●e but the Spirit of God called such Serpents and so doth now which is not the Spirit of the Devil as the Devil would slander it to be both Mat. 23. 33. then and now you being now found in the same practise are reproved with the same spirit 3. qu. Thou asks Is it the Ministers or quakers that have the rule over people and wait for the good of souls I say the quakers abhors such rule as you bear and for the good of souls thou must first know what the soul is before thou can watch for the good of it nay thou watches to destroy souls for dishonest gain hirelings was never souls shepheards 4. qu. Thou sayes if the present Pastors be not true Ministers tell you who are and where you may find them and where they have been from Christ til now I say those are true ministers and ever was who wandred to and fro having no certain dwelling place of whom the world was not worthy who ever bore witness against the false Prophets that bear rule by their means and the Priests that preached for hire and the people that loved to have it so and whose manner was to go into the Synagogues and Idols temples to disprove the hirelings false worship and call people from them to the true shepheard and you may find many of these in the most prisons of the nation for so doing by your means against whom we are sent to witness and these have been banished to and fro since the mystery of iniquity and the popish priesthood was set up into corners but now are come to light to witness against the mystery of iniquity therefore do the heathen rage the man of sin and all his ministers because his end is near 5. qu. Thou asks if it will be for the peoples profit to despise their Teachers and guides I say you who have despised Christs commands to set up your own lusts and pride covetousness and false-worship must be despised and when such guides are discovered then shal the people profit when they come to be guided with that spirit God hath given to every man to profit withall which thou wil keep them from as long as you can that you may fil up your measure and wrath come upon you to the uttermost being captivated by the Devil soul and body the God of this world having blinded the eye so that the Gospell 2 Cor. 4. is hid from you and you lost letting up the Letter instead of it having denyed the light and erred from it are got up into hardness of heart imprisoning beating and making havock like mad beasts what ever the Devill did where he reigned so do you being the head of the Serpent which Christ is come to bruise as he did in his own person so he is the same for ever to the same brood who now are found in the same bloody plots against the seed of God worse than ever any seeking the lives of others for practising that in life which your selves wil preach in words for money ●uch a generation of raging beasts was never yet in the world who seek to devour on every side you and who departs from sin is your prey the greatest deceivers thatever yet come now when you come to be revealed who would have bel●eved that you who have had so many millions of pounds for teaching people to forsake sin and now if any declare that he hath forsaken it and is set free you preach it down as the most dangerous error that ever was and cry out to drunckards swearers thieves and murderers and whoremongers come not near them least you be deceived and now get up more money for preaching up sin while the world stands than you took for preaching it down yet if we tel you you are bringing people into Covenant with the Devil for tear● of life you say we rail on you when you have be got the faith of that Covenant in the whole nation ask any that ever believes your teaching if they believe that Christ i● able to redeem them from committing sin in this world and presently they are ready to give an account of their faith nay none can be free he●e but when they are dead in another world they shall ●o the faith and covenant is sutable for no less time then till men can sin no longer and if any have broke this Covenant through the righteous Covenant they are ready to stone him yet least thou should be seen in this filth you cast a mist before the simple saying you must strive after perfection and freedom and purity and to be set free from sin but once knowing that unbeliefe is in the bottome there is little danger of freedome for the Devil whose work you are doing knows fulwel that if he can but have people to believe they cannot be free he knows they are safe with him for ever comming at it no faith no obtaining according to every mans faith so shall it be unto them and that striving which is not in faith to obtain is selfe-righteousness but Heb. 7 25. who believes that Christ is able to save to the uttermost all that come to God by him shall see it so but this the blind knows not who would have believed that these Priess that now is had been the greatest persecutors that ever was before them who have preached so long against it but say you this persecution of ours is not as theirs was they persecuted Christ and such as he sent but these are wandrers

a people or was any of the Apostles or Ministers o● Christ made Ministers by the wil of man To this thou answers after the old way and begins another story telling the Lord called the Apostles by his own voyce and le●t them to call one another to the end of the world end to prove this untruth thou brings Mat. 28. 21. which Chapter hath not 21. verses in but there is not one verse in that chapter nor in all the book that sayes that the Apostles was to leave such an order to the end of the world so that a verse beyond number is fittest to quote for such a ly but what Apostle was that who least order with the Pope from whom all the Parish Teachers both in this Nation and many more have had their ordination and holy order since the Pops tieme he ●●ves from Peter and if thou say so tool I shall not believe you till I see ●●tter proofe than yet thou hast quoted but thou proceeds to deny any t● expect a call from Heaven and the signes of thy call thou sets down First thy competent qualification yet hast thou nought freely but so hard to study for it that thou hast no time to work and that never was Christs call nor qualification 2. Thy thirst after the good of souls yet thou knows not what the soul is 3. The ordination of authorised Church officers what sort those are and the rise of them hath been declared before 4. The call of the people and their consent over whom he hath set thee I say none that ever was sent by Christ ever went to ask consent of the People 5. The success of thy labours but how many of thy hearers are set free from sin yea thy self yet a lyar 7. Some testimony of the Spirit yet thou denies any infallibility and that Spirit with the Spirit of God that never erred is denyed These seven sayest thou set together are the signes of Christs call and thy mission shew you the like if you can to which I say never any of Christs Ministers shewed the like nor do I neither and thou tels the old taile over again that no immediate call since the Apostles which thou never proved yet and thou concludes wil not all this suffice I say those who know not the Scriptures nor the power of God may trust thee and be sufficed with a lye but who knows either sees whence thou art was not Annanias and Barnabas and others in the Scriptures called immediately Acts 9 10 11. and with the power and Spirit by which I am called immediately Acts 13. 2. do I testifie against thee with the Scripture 21. qu. Whether had any Ministers of Christ an hour glass to preach by or tooke a Text and raised Doctrine uses Reasons Motives or a carnall BELL to call people together by prove these things by plaine SCRIPTURE or else be silent and never profess your selves to be Ministers of Christ more And to this thou answers with telling of Spectacles Doublet and Breeches and such like vain words but dare not compare your practise with the SAINTS in SCRIPTVRE thou will not be tryed by thy own standing Rule but sayes these are purposely left by Christ to be determined of humane providence what providence is that which is humane providence to Iohn 16. 13. which your worship of God is least is his worship humane and your tythes divine they who worship in truth have the Spirit of Truth to guide them into all truth in his whole worship but your humane providence hath led you out of that worship in all things and thou sayes thou can limit thy selfe and not limit the Spirit so the spirit and thou are not one I say I know selfe orders thee and thy times are in thy own hands but with Christ and his it never was the query is of the manner of thy worship and thou answers did the Apostles preach in Doublets and Breeches is Doublets and Breeches forms of Gods worship a man may alter Doublets and Breeches but may he alter the form of worship which Christ appointed The Saints meet together sayes thou and did not stay two or three dayes therefore why may not I have an Hour-glass I say they meet together sometimes stayed whole dayes and sometimes whole nights as they was moved and this did not limit the Spirit but can you therefore set an hour to begin and end for hundreds of years by a glass or by a clock either and not limit the Spirit if thou knew the spirit and its moving thou would know to the contrary Christ would not go to worship at his own time nor any that knows the Spirit but they are ordered by it both for time and manner but this the wolves never knew thou sayes if thou had our spirit thou should be angry at the hour-glass and preach the people out of their places I say thou art a man pleaser who keeps an Hour-glass to please the People and a man pleaser can●ot please God but the hireling must do his work as may assure him of his wages if people set you your work its fit that they should have it done in their own time and after that manner they like best this we should not deny you did you not pretend ministers of Christ but if Christ set a work it s as much reason that he should have the like freedome to order his workmen seeing he never sends his to the wo●ld for counsel nor hire this we know though thou dost not and thou sayes Christ took a Text and applyed it and this thou would bring to prove your litterall Ministry to be the Ministry of Christ I say Christ took a Text and said it was fulfilled in him but if you take no Text but what is fulfilled in Mic. 3. 5. you then you must take only such as Iohn 10. 12 13. and those Scriptures Mat. 23. that tel of a Priesthood that were called of men Masters bore Ier. 5. 31. rule by their means cryed peace while people put into their mouthes but if not prepared wars that were proud and covetous taught for flecces beat and cast out of Synagogues wolves in Sheeps cloathing c. these and such like which sure your practise you must take and then say this day is these Scriptures fulfilled in your ears and then read your portion so take your own then you are no thieves for the word of God you have not nor was it ever preached in your manner nor for your ends and your dividing is to cry peace though God hath not spoken peace in the conscience and are daubers and tread the Lambs under your feet read Ezek. 22 25. 26. and you may see what d●viders you are and what it is you divide 22. qu Whether are not they that bear rule by their means and seek for their gain from their quarter and seek for the fleece and make a prey on the people and are

that thinks that the Light which is in all the Indians Americans and other Pagans on earth is sufficient without Scripture Ans I say that Light which the Gentiles had which brought them to do the things contained in the Law showing the work of the Law Rom. 2. written intheir hearts was sufficient without the circumcision of the Letter which the Jews stood so much on yet brought not forth the same fruits which God accepted though they could call them Heathens and Gentiles as thou dost the Indians and Pagans but it the Indeans and Pagans own that Law written in their heart and come to receive power to bring forth the fruits of it which thou dost not I shall say of you both as Paul did of the Jews Rom. 2. 12 13 c. not the hearers of the Law are just before God but the doers of the Law shall be justified but art not thou a Pagan if not worse who would conclude all in condemnation but who comes to hear you hirelings and your expositions of the Scriptures nay thou art a blasphemer above all thou readest on in the scripture who would make the light of Christ wherewith he hath enlightned every one that comes into the world to be insufficient without scripture and so condemn all the Saints and their sufficiency before the Letter was and so Ioh 1 destroy Abrahams faith and sufficiency which had no Letter to add to it but this is all thou knows of it or its foundation who denies its sufficiency qu. 15. Was that Light in Paul which perswaded him that he ought to do many things against the name of Jesus sufficient to convert him to the faith of Jesus or did Christ give him needlesly a light from heaven and by Ananias his Doctrine or had Cornelius sufficient Light within him before Peter preached unto him or had all the world sufficient Light within them before Christ sent abroad his Apostles to preach the Gospel unto them or did Christ send them a needless light by his Apostles have those persecutors sufficient light within them to cause them to believe in Christ who think they do God service in killing or reproaching his ministers and people Ans I say Christ hath enlightned every one that comes into the World which Ball and thou and many of thy generation being exceedingly mad with envy and rage running in your own wills and acting against it your light is become Darkness and so great is that darkness that you are reproaching persecuting and killing the people of God now as he was then and think you do God service yet is the Light in Darkness though Darkness comprehends it not Io●n 1. 5. and therefore Peter was sent to Cornelius Ananias to Paul and the Apostles to the world not to give them eyes but to open the blinde eyes and to turn them from Darkness to the Light as is plain Christ and the Apostles came into the world for that purpose though Christ was the light before the world was yet came into the world to open the eyes Isa 46 6 7. and sent his Apostles to that end at is plaine Act. 26. i7 i8 and to the Light that shun in Darkness was they to turn 2 Pet. 1. 19. them and this was the way by which they knew God to which they confessed as is plain in the Stripture til which time the Gospel was hid and the CREATURE lost by reason of that DARKNESS wherewith the Prince of this World had their hearts blinded 2 Cor. 4. 3. to the 8. ver and this Light did not perswade Paul to be a persecuter nor thee neither but the Prince of Darkness which hath thee blinded wherein thou appears to be one of those builders who refuses the Corner Stone and denies Gods covenant which Isa 42. 6. was a covenant of Light and not of the Letter and the Law written in the heart and not in the Tables which the carnall eye sees not nor Mat. 24. 23. 26 thy wilfull minde regards not who art crying lo here lo there without thee but saith Christ go not forth the word is nigh thee in thy Rom. 10. 8. heart and that word of faith the Apostles preached which was in peoples hearts but such was not Ministers of the Letter but of the Spirit nor did ever say the Letter was the Word as thou dost but if the Letter be not the Word it seems thou hath none of the Word but art one of those who saith hear the word of the Lord when the Ier. 23. Lord never spoke to thee but hath stoln it from thy neighbor which is none of the word of the Lord to thee so thou perverts it taking the Scriptures to plead for sin which was written against sin which they that had the word of the Lord never did and that Light which thou deniest to us is become the head of the corner and we witness it sufficient without any other addittion but thy testimony of it is the testimony of an unbeliever contrary to what Christ commandeth thereby to be become the children of light there is the covenant and the promise of it Iohn 12. 36. Iohn 8. 12. and out of the Light there 's no promise and all that thou hast here proved is but thy self a child of Darkness and no otherwayes to be believed so brings forth thy deeds of Darkness speaking evil of that thou knowest not and none can own Ananias Doctrine Act. 9. 10. 11. who denies immediate callings qu. 16. If all have sufficient Light within them what need you go up and down to perswade them is it needless Light that you bring them or is it hellish darkness Ans We are sent to declare that Light which is sufficient which we witness within us and to draw people from that hellish darkness into which the blinde guides have led them and from all the dark worshipps set up in the imaginations unto the light of life which is only sufficient which bears witness in them against all the Deeds of Darknes showing what is to be reproved and what is wrought in God Eph. 5. 13. Iohn 3. 21. so to turn people Iohn 16. 13. to that Light and Spirit of Truth which leads into all Truth is the end of our Teaching and the enemy of hellish Darkness and that Spirit is in them and they shall know it who turn to it qu. 17. Is it not a most sottish trick of you to go up and down prating and commanding and yet refuse to shew your commission from God and to call Ministers to shew theirs and refuse to shew your own but say it is invisible within you are you so mad to expect that any should believe an invisible and indemonstrable COMMISSION and might not we as wel we tel you ours is invisible but that indeed it is not or should we believe every one that prates of a commission within him or no if not why should we believe you