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A42578 Veteres vindicati, in an expostulatory letter to Mr. Sclater of Putney, upon his Consensus veterum, &c. wherein the absurdity of his method, the weakness of his reasons are shewn, his false aspersions upon the Church of England are wiped off, and her faith concerning the Eucharist proved Gee, Edward, 1657-1730. 1687 (1687) Wing G462; ESTC R22037 94,746 111

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bishop_n shall_v observe_v the_o order_n leave_v by_o the_o apostle_n 8._o pag._n 8._o both_o which_o be_v nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n of_o a_o monarchical_a church_n but_o prove_v the_o contrary_a if_o it_o be_v worth_a the_o while_n to_o show_v it_o ignatius_n saint_n and_o martyr_n be_v the_o next_o you_o produce_v 8._o pag._n 8._o from_o he_o you_o tell_v we_o that_o people_n in_o all_o thing_n shall_v submit_v to_o their_o bishop_n that_o no_o man_n can_v be_v partaker_n of_o the_o eucharist_n that_o abstain_v from_o the_o bishop_n altar_n a_o man_n will_v guess_v by_o these_o passage_n that_o you_o have_v already_o forget_v what_o you_o be_v about_o to_o prove_v you_o be_v to_o prove_v that_o christ_n lest_o his_o church_n under_o one_o
matth._n 16.13_o 14_o etc._n etc._n wherein_o the_o discourse_n of_o our_o saviour_n with_o his_o disciple_n and_o his_o gift_n of_o the_o key_n to_o peter_n be_v record_v speak_v to_o his_o disciple_n as_o invest_v already_o with_o this_o power_n of_o bind_v and_o lose_v heaven_n lose_v s._n matt._n 18.17_o 18._o and_o if_o he_o shall_v neglect_v to_o hear_v they_o tell_v it_o unto_o the_o church_n but_o if_o he_o neglect_v to_o hear_v the_o church_n let_v he_o be_v to_o thou_o as_o a_o heathen_a man_n and_o a_o publican_n very_o i_o say_v unto_o you_o whatsoever_o you_o shall_v bind_v on_o earth_n shall_v be_v bind_v etc._n etc._n and_o whatsoever_o you_o shall_v loose_v shall_v be_v loose_v in_o heaven_n which_o place_n with_o i_o put_v it_o past_o all_o doubt_n that_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n be_v equal_o concern_v in_o that_o speech_n of_o our_o saviour_n to_n st._n peter_n and_o thereby_o have_v equal_a power_n but_o if_o they_o will_v not_o allow_v this_o place_n to_o 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you_o shall_v say_v i_o leave_v that_o part_n unanswered_a chap._n xiii_o argument_n for_o the_o primacy_n not_o die_v with_o peter_n answer_v the_o proof_n out_o of_o st._n chrysostome_n for_o st._n peter_n supremacy_n full_o confute_v your_o argument_n for_o the_o primacy_n not_o die_v with_o peter_n be_v few_o and_o which_o be_v worse_a nothing_o to_o your_o purpose_n 13._o pag._n 13._o since_o they_o be_v far_o from_o prove_v what_o you_o desire_v but_o you_o ought_v to_o have_v remember_v that_o it_o be_v not_o only_o your_o task_n to_o prove_v that_o there_o be_v such_o a_o primacy_n and_o that_o it_o be_v not_o to_o die_v with_o st._n peter_n but_o that_o it_o be_v to_o descend_v to_o the_o successive_a bishop_n of_o rome_n after_o his_o decease_n and_o not_o to_o any_o of_o the_o apostle_n nor_o to_o the_o bishop_n of_o antioch_n but_o since_o i_o perceive_v we_o shall_v find_v the_o first_o to_o wit_n of_o prove_v the_o primacy_n not_o to_o die_v with_o st._n peter_n too_o 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joannem_fw-la quamvis_fw-la dominus_fw-la ipsos_fw-la caeteris_fw-la praetulisset_fw-la non_fw-la idcirco_fw-la de_fw-fr primo_fw-la honoris_fw-la gradu_fw-la inter_fw-la se_fw-la contendisse_fw-la sed_fw-la jacobum_fw-la cognomine_fw-la justum_fw-la hierosolymorum_fw-la episcopum_fw-la elegisse_fw-la clemens_n apud_fw-la euseb_n hist_o eccl._n l._n 2._o c._n 1._o edit_fw-la vale_n clemens_n his_o six_o book_n of_o institution_n that_o after_o our_o lord_n ascension_n peter_n james_n and_o john_n though_o prefer_v not_o peter_n alone_o by_o our_o lord_n above_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n do_v not_o thereupon_o contend_v among_o themselves_o for_o the_o first_o place_n of_o honour_n but_o choose_v james_n the_o just_a bishop_n of_o jerusalem_n who_o chair_n i_o be_o sure_a this_o passage_n make_v primus_fw-la honoris_fw-la gradus_fw-la the_o chief_a cathedra_fw-la in_o the_o world_n have_v thus_o spoil_v this_o your_o proof_n your_o next_o will_v give_v i_o the_o less_o trouble_n 14._o pag._n 14._o wherein_o st._n hierome_n tell_v damasus_n that_o in_o this_o miserable_a condition_n of_o the_o eastern_a church_n be_v overrun_v by_o heresy_n he_o will_v stick_v to_o st._n peter_n be_v chair_n and_o that_o faith_n commend_v by_o st._n paul_n etc._n etc._n which_o passage_n will_v have_v clear_v itself_o have_v you_o but_o be_v so_o just_a as_o to_o have_v translate_v the_o very_a next_o word_n which_o bring_v we_o st._n hierome_n reason_n for_o this_o his_o resolution_n of_o slight_v all_o heretic_n and_o communicate_v with_o the_o apostolical_a chair_n at_o rome_n because_o he_o have_v in_o that_o church_n be_v first_o make_v a_o christian_a damaso_n ind_n nunc_fw-la meae_fw-la animae_fw-la postulans_fw-la cibum_fw-la unde_fw-la olim_fw-la christi_fw-la vestimenta_fw-la suscepi_fw-la hieron_n ep._n damaso_n and_o therefore_o thence_o will_v receive_v the_o spiritual_a food_n for_o his_o soul._n have_v you_o mr._n scl._n but_o make_v st._n hierome_n resolution_n 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confident_a i_o can_v make_v even_o you_o confess_v that_o he_o mount_v he_o above_o st._n peter_n himself_o concern_v who_o you_o have_v furnish_v a_o catalogue_n of_o such_o glorious_a title_n look_v but_o upon_o his_o comment_n on_o that_o 679._o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d chrys_n tom._n 3._o p._n 679._o say_n of_o st._n paul_n 2_o cor._n 11.28_o about_o his_o care_n of_o all_o the_o church_n a_o passage_n by_o the_o bye_n that_o be_v more_o than_o all_o your_o whole_a church_n can_v patch_v together_o for_o st._n peter_n how_o he_o advance_v our_o apostle_n there_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o st._n paul_n have_v the_o care_n and_o charge_v not_o of_o a_o single_a house_n but_o of_o city_n and_o country_n and_o nation_n yea_o of_o the_o whole_a world_n 364._o world_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d orat._n 5._o contr_n jud._n tom._n 6._o pag._n 364._o in_o another_o place_n that_o he_o be_v entrust_v with_o the_o charge_n and_o government_n of_o the_o whole_a world_n which_o 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