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A25215 The mischief of impositions, or, An antidote against a late discourse, partly preached at Guild-hall Chappel, May 2, 1680, called The mischief of separation Alsop, Vincent, 1629 or 30-1703. 1680 (1680) Wing A2917; ESTC R16170 115,195 136

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