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A17371 Maschil, or, A treatise to giue instruction touching the state of the Church of Rome since the Councell of Trent, whether shee be yet a true Christian church. And if she have denied the foundation of our faith. For the vindication of the right reuerend father in God, the L. Bishop of Exeter, from the cavills of H.B. in his book intituled The seven vialls. By Robert Butterfield Master of Arts, and minister of Gods Word. Butterfield, Robert. 1629 (1629) STC 4205; ESTC S120372 51,626 162

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ascended vp on high he gaue gifts vnto men to some to Eph. 4. ● be Apostles some Prophets some Euangelists for the worke of the Ministery ●nd for the edifying of the Body of Christ To these he gaue his Promise That he would be with them alwaies Mat. 28. 20. to the end of the world Solomon had a Vineyard in Baal ham●n hee let it Cant. 8. 11. sorth vnto Keepers This Vine-yard is the Church the Keepers to whose ●●elage and care our blessed Lord typified in Solomon committed his Church were at the first Apostles and Apostolicke persons their Successours to the worlds end in their function and Ministeriall office 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 men consecrate and set a part for that purpose whose is the power of the keyes and the office of laying on of hands conueying that grace vnto others which themselues haue receiued that so the Church of Christ neuer be destitute Where soeuer there be persons retaining th●● power howsoeuer otherwise exceeding blame-worthy which I ofte● inculcate because I would not be● mis-vnderstood there wee cann●● deny that there is the true Church of Christ And our Aduersaries ●● this cause see that they cannot gaine their purpose vnlesse they strip the Church of Rome of this priuiledge There is no Ordination no Ministery 7. Vialls pa. 36. and so downe ward no Baptisme ●● Christianitie The eares of our Diuines are well accustomed to tho●● importune clamours of our Aduersaries of the Church of Rome bot● for our Church in former ages ●f you h●d a Church before Luther wher● were your Pastors and since the reformation finding their cause desperate in the particulars of it they inueigh against our Clergy You haue no calling you haue no more right ●● meddle in things sacred than yo●● Wiues or Daughters you are no Ministers you runne before you are sent you are Intruders and Theeues that enter not in by the doore of the fold but climbe vp a●other way Wolues and Lay-men no Priests and therefore you haue no S●●r●ments nor Seruice of God This is the voyce of Bristow Howlet Sa●ders C●●pian and the rest of that rabble Now if it be obserued what wee answer to the first and bow wee refute the latter calumny it will soone appeare what wee are to determine in this matter First then we affirme That no man hath ●● doe in this office but hee that is lawfully called thereunto Who euer intruded himselfe with impunitie and without dangerous arrogancie into this funct●on The hand of Ieroboam is withered and Ozia● though a King is smi●ten with Leprosie for touching those things which were holy without a calling thereunto This is that whereby wee may discerne the Priests of the Sanctuary from Ieroboams Priests of whom wee reade that whosoeue● would might consecrate himselfe Christ suffereth not the Diuell to tell 1. King 13. that he knew him beca●se as one n●teth Mark 1. 25. hoc presumed without a calling ●● publish the truth The Diuell could easily espy the want of Commissio● in the Sonnes of Sce●a when they adiured him by the name of Ies●● whom Paul preached Iesu● I acknowledge Acts. 19. and Paul I know b●t who a●● yee Your warrant is not good yo●● counterfeit charmes are not strong enough to remoue me The reason is manifest No man taketh this honour to himselfe but hee that is called of God as was Aaron Secondly Heb 5. 4. Wee auerre no lesse confidently that it belongeth vnto the Church onely to send those who shall hau● authority in the Ministration of holy things Shee receiued the Keyes at the hands of Christ and to her it appertaines to deliuer them to those that shall vse them Shee hath he● Commission As my Father sent me so I send you For this cause I l●ft thee in Iohn 20. 21. Cre●t saith St. Paul to Titus that thou Tit. 1. 5. mightest ordaine Elders i● eu●●y Ci●ie ●● I appointed thee Without this there can be no Oeconomie nor order in the Church wee should haue as many seuerall opinions as seuerall ●●n Ordination therefore and laying on of hands the Church hath ●ommanded to be retained and performed with all solemnitie That a Bishop should bee ordained ●●ther by the whole Prouince or by a Councell or according to the Canon Canon Apost 1. by three or two Bishops at the le●st ●he Metropolitane if it be possible beeing present and promoting the businesse What Pries●● and Deacons should bee ordained with due●ites and ceremonies and prayers in the face of the Church that 〈◊〉 people might acknowledge their lawf●ll Pastors Thirdly For those tha● before L●ther had the Popish t●●s● in detestation they might ●cknowledge euen them of the Church Dr. ●rid●●●x L●ct de V●si● E●cle●●a of Rome for their Pastors so farre forth as they had a lawfull calling and preached Christ howsoeuer a for as much as they oftentimes feed others who themselues eate nothing or giue good corne mingled with a great deale of chas●e Fourthly and lastly for our Ministery at this day wee answer them That eyther it i● Lawfull and Cano●icall or else they haue none seeing t●at wee haue receiued it from them though they we●● vnworthy to conferre it as they ●●om their Predecessours and ours in Ecclesiasticall Iurisdiction It is worth the while to obserue the impudencie of our Aduersaries i● this matter how when they cannot answer v● they betake themselues to their wonted trade of lying Thus goes the ●●le S●ory Sandes and Gri●d●ll say they ●ee by appo●●●men● at the sig●e of the N●gges● he●● in Ch●●pe side to Lo●den and 〈◊〉 that the old Bishop of L●●d●ffe wh●● they expected for their Canonicall Cons●●rato●● had withdrawne himselfe for the threats of ●onner they layed hands one vpon another Our Diuines passe not this ouer in silence but giue a precise and punctuall answer to it Not onely our Reuerend Bishop whose cause wee haue now in hand answering his Egregious Cauiller in that golden Worke of The honour of the married Clergie but diuers others of our choysest Diuines who Dr. Prideaux orat de vocatione Ministror M. Mason in the defence of the Ministry of the Church of England seriously refute this Fable euidently shewing out of the vndeniable Recordes of our Church not onely at what time by whom in what place euery one of the ●orenamed Bishops was Canonically consecrated but also touching B. Iewell Parker and others who preached at the consecration of euery one of these and likewise what were their seuerall Texts And left these turne coates should persist herein and still tickle their Proselytes in the head with this tale our right Reuerend Arch-Bishop that now is caused foure of the learneder sort of their Priests ●● be brought who beheld and viewed these Recordes before sufficient witnesses and promised to certifie the truth to the rest of their partie Thus we perceiue that it is a thing hitherto vnheard of amongst vs that any Member of
that the Church of Rome did as M. Hoo●er his discourse of iustification soundly interpret these fundamentall writings whereupon wee build our Faith as she doth willingly hold and embrace the same But secondly if the name of foundation doe note the principall thing which is beleeued then that is the foundation of our faith which Saint Paul hath to Timothie 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 This 1. Tim. ● 15. is a faithfull saying and worthy of all acceptation that Christ Iesus came into the world to saue sinners That of the Samaritans This is Christ the Sauiour Io●n 4 4● of the world That of the Apostle God manifested in the flesh iustified in 1. Tim 3. 16. the spirit scene of Angels preached vnto the Gentiles beleeued on in the world receiued vp into Glorie This is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 The pillar v. 15. an●●ground of truth vnto which these 〈…〉 words are better referred than to the Church mentioned in the former part of the verse where she hath her appellation glorious enough That she is the House of God The Church of the liuing God For although the Church may bee Columna forensis a Pillar whereon doe hang the Edicts of the Great King which exhibites vnto vs all sauing truth for which cause it is necessary that they bee added vnto the Church which will bee Acts. 2. 47. made capable of saluation yet can she not be Columna architectonica that vnto the truth which a Pillar is vnto the house bearing vp the building for thus the Church is built vpon the Truth not the Truth vpon the Church CHAP. VI. What it is to ouerthrow the Foundation of Faith directly what by consequent WHat the Foundation of Faith is wee haue already seene now because that directly to hold the foundation is so essentiall to the Church of God that without it there can bee no Christian Church and that by our Aduersaries in this cause the denyall of the same is brought as a medium to proue the Church of Rome to bee no true Church it is therefore requisite that wee now enquire what it is directly to deny the foundation and what by consequence to ouerthrow it They ouerthrow it directly which directly deny that Iesus Christ came into the world to saue sinners to whom Christ is an execration as to Pagans and Turkes or they to whom hee is a stumbling blocke and a rocke of offence as the Iewes Other Foundation can no man lay than that which is layd 1. Cor. 3. 11. Iesus Christ St. Paul writing to the Hebrewes and desirous to win them to the acceptation of this Corner stone which their wise builders had reiected as vnfit for building tels vs what it is directly to deny this foundation and withall the hainousnesse of it namely To tread vnder foot the Heb. 10. 29. Sonne of God to count the bloud of the Couenant where withall wee are sanctified an vnholy thing and to do despite vnto the Spirit of Grace This is directly to deny the foundation Of which crime whosoeuer is able let him indict the Church of Rome producing sufficient euidence thereof and whosoeuer shall open his mouth to pleade for them let him be guilty of all the dishonour that euer hath been done to the Sonne of God If any man loue not the Lord Iesus 1. Cor. 16 22. Christ let him bee Anathema Maranatha But vntill such demonstratiue proofe be brought forth I resolue to sit downe and rest my selfe content to take vp his speech of whom it was truly said that he was great in all wise mens eyes but his owne The more M. H●oker his discour●e of iustification dreadfull a thing it is to deny saluation by Christ alone the more slow and fearefull I am except it be too manifest to lay a thing so grieuous to any mans charge Thus we see what it is to deny the foundation of Faith directly They ouerthrow it by consequent or indirectly which holding it directly maintaine any one assertion whatsoeuer whereupon the direct deny all thereof may bee necessarily concluded Thus the Galathians holding circumsion did by consequence ouerthrow saluation by Christ in as much as it was impossible that they should stand together Hence the Apostle vrgeth them with such dangerous sequ●lles If yee bee circumcised Christ Gal. 5. shall profit you nothing Christ is become of none effect vnto you that are iustifi●d by the Law c. It was truly said of the Philosopher 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 If one absurdity be granted a thousand will follow and as by long circuit of deduction it may bee that all Ho●ker ●●cle 〈◊〉 2. sub in●tio truth out of any truth may bee concluded So by a circle of consequence there is no errour in Diuinity but razeth the foundation Howbei● we make a difference of Heresies and Errours in this kinde some beeing in the next degree to infidelitie as those which deny any one Article of the Creede some such as from wh●nc● the deniall of the Faith may be with facility concluded as those ancient Heresies which strooke neare the head Of Hebion denying the Diuinitie of Christ and Marcion which denyed his humanity Some againe in which ranke are those which the Church of Rome maintaineth which be remoued by a greater distance from the Foundation although indeede they ouerthrow it Now this I dare confidently affirme That no one Heresie which the Church of Rome auoucheth at this day nor all of them together how damnable soeuer they bee in themselues do so nearely raze the foundation of Faith as any one of those broched in elder times by Nestorius Macedonius and the like who yet were neuer said to deny the foundation of Faith directly Thus wee see what it is directly to deny the foundation what also by consequent All infidels deny the foundation of Faith directly by consequent many a Christian man yea whole Christian Churches haue denied it and doe deny it at this present day as the Greeke Church the Churches of the Lutherans the doctrines of Arminius not the Church of Rome onely What Hooker ●is d●scourse of iustification Christian Churches the foundation of Christianitie not directly for then they cease to bee Christian Churches but by a consequent in respect whereof we condemne them as erroneous although for holding the foundation wee doe and must hold them Christian CHAP. VII How to distinguish betwixt the Church of Rome and Babylon in the Church and the state of the question in hand WHen Popish Writers demand of vs where our Church was before Luther our Diuines vsually returne them this answer That it was both within the Church of Rome and without it Without it in distinct societies as the Albigenses and Waldenses which arose in France Sauoy and the places neare adioyning from whom descended the Wicklefisles in England and the Hussites in Germany who as soone as the Church of Rome had interpreted her selfe touching some