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A29753 Quakerisme the path-way to paganisme, or, A vieu of the Quakers religion being an examination of the theses and apologie of Robert Barclay, one of their number, published lately in Latine, to discover to the world, what that is, which they hold and owne for the only true Christian religion / by John Brown ... Brown, John, 1610?-1679.; R. M. C. 1678 (1678) Wing B5033; ESTC R10085 718,829 590

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the Law What sayes he to this Argument He grants they are not profitable unto God but yet he saith they are profitable unto us he might adde and to others too and he might say that they are useful to set forth the Glory of God and several things more might he say of this kinde but all is to no purpose as to our present question The second Objection is from Rom. 3 20 21 by the righteousness of the Law shall no flesh be justified c. But he might have cited to this end whole Chapters of that Epistle as also of the Epistle to the Galatians where the Apostle in downe right termes is disputing against the interest of works in the matter of Justification But what replyeth he He saith the Apostle excludes the works of the Law that is such as are done by mans strength and will while he studieth conformity unto the outward letter of the Law which therefore are imperfect but not the works of the Gospel done by the Spirit of grace in the heart according to the inward and Spiritual Law which are therefore pure and perfect Answer 1. This explication of Law works and Gospel works is nakedly proposed to us here without any proof and is an arrow out of Bellarmines quiver all works done by mans meer strength and will without the Grace of God and the help of the Spirit are no good works at all because not performed in the right manner nor flowing from a principle of grace 2. That Gospel works even performed by the Spirit are not pure and perfect as he with Papists say shall be seen in due time 3. The Apostle excludeth all such works which are not that Righteousness of God without the Law which was witnessed to by the Law and the Prophets nor the Righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that beleeve Rom. 3 21 22 And all such as marre justification freely by grace through the redemption that is in Jesus Christ vers 24 As also all such as darken that declaration of the righteousness of God who must be just when he is the justifier of him which beleeveth in Jesus whereof mention is made vers 25 26. And all such works as give ground of boasting which is only excluded by the Law o● Faith vers 27. And all such as are opposite to justification by faith vers 28. 4. Nay Abrahams Davids works which were done by the Spirit are excluded Rom. 4 2 3 6 7 8. He goeth about to confirme this distinction from this that Paul to the Galat. speaketh directly against such as would presse the observation of the legal Ceremonies upon the Christian Gentiles Pag. 145 146. Answ. Though that might be the occasion of Pauls disput it be true that Paul speaketh much and particularl● against the ceremonial Law yet he doth not insist upon that hypothesis or branch of the question but taketh occasion thereby to discusse the point in Thesi● of all works in general even such as are done in conformity to the moral Law therefore he adduceth Chap. 3 10 12. that passage Deut. 27 26. and Levit. 18 5. which cannot be meaned of the ceremonial Law only and speaketh against all Justification by works which is opposite to Justification by faith Chap. 3 11 12. What he saith afterward of the necessity of good works we stand to in the sense maintained by Our against Papists that is as antecedent adjuncts and dispositions unto glory not as any way meritorious either of Justification or Salvation nor do we approve of the Papists second Justification by works He urgeth againe Tit. 3 5. And thence speaketh thus all grant that such as are saved are Iustified True what more Therefore when he saith he hath saved us he saith also he hath Iustified us Ans. True yet it will not follow that all that is antecedent to Salvation is also antecedent to Justification or that all that is requisite in order to final Salvation is also requisite in order to Justification The Apostle vers 5. presupposing Justification is shewing what way the Lord bringeth about their salvation to wit by washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost that he may clear up the first step of the work he speaks to Justification vers 7. that being Iustified by his grace c. and this grace excludeth all works for what is of grace it not of works otherwise grace is no more grace and what is of works is not of grace otherwise works are no more works Rom. 11 6 and to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace but of debt Rom. 4 4. What he saith afterward Pag. 147. of the difference betwixt works done by persons unrenewed and persons regenerated is not much to the matter in hand and tendeth clearly to disparage his own doctrine concerning the Sanctification and Salvation of Heathens And withall I see no ground to take in these last into Justification as he would have us for then as no man is sayed until all these works be ended so also shall no man be justified until he be glorified 42. The third Objection is taken from the impurity of our best works And he answereth with Bellarmine That works done by the Spirit and grace of God that is of persons regenerated are perfect Ans. His meaning must be that they do agree to the Law in all points otherwise a curse attendeth them Deut. 27 26. Gal. 3 10. And if so why did David say Psal. 143 2. and enter not into judgment with thy servant for in thy sight shall no flesh be justified And Ps. 130 3. If thou Lord should mark iniquittes O Lord who shall stand and why doth Iob say Chap. 9 15. whom if I were righteous yet would I not answere And why saith the church Esai 64 6. all our righteousneses are as filthy rags which though some cited by this man not regarding the interpretation of Bertius the Arminian think doth not immediatly prove that there is no merite in our works as not being spoken of all mankinde yet doth abundantly evidence that the penitent church considering her best wayes saw much defilement in them that might make the Lord abhorre them as filthy rags and persons in a penitent frame use to get a better sight of sin and of their wayes than others have or themselves formerly had His saying that hereby is not meant these works that Christ worketh in us but the works which we ourselves do in our owne strength Is vaine for such as are done in our owne strength cannot be called Righteousness But then sayes he it would follow that all holiness must be cast away as filthy rags So they must be cast away in the matter of Justification for we must not found our hope of acceptance with God and Justification before him on these but it will not follow that they must be laid aside in our practice and not be studied and endeavoured to God's
from the Father and the Son And if the knowledge of this be such an essential part of Christianity and a ground of that knowledge of God which leadeth to salvation and so necessary for the right uptaking of the great work of Redemption and Salvation as it is and cannot rationally be denyed by any sober man who considereth what a sure basis this is unto the Christians hope peace and comfort how cometh it to pass that there is no express and distinct mention made of this fundamental point in all his Theses we have heard how the Quakers of N. England have denied this foundation And Mr Stalham in his Reviler rebuked part 1. sect 7. tels us that the Quakers against whom he wrote d●nied th●t there was any Scripture for the Trinity and said that the Holy Ghost was no Person It is known also how others of them inveigh against this fundamental Truth It is true I finde not this man either in his Theses or in his Apology directly writing against this tru●h Yet as I finde no expressions hereanent in his whole book others than such as might come out of the mouth of an Antitrinitarian Socinian so I judge if his Theses had answered his great brags in the Preface they had expresly and distinctly not only mentioned but clearly have unfolded this truth 7. In the 3. place If by his Theses he would direct us into the Saving knowledge of God and make a plaine discovery to us from the very fountaine of all that knowledge that leadeth unto life eternal how cometh it to pass that we have no declaration made to us of the Eternal Purposes and Decrees of God whereby some Men and Angels are predestinated unto everlasting life and others foreordained unto everlasting death and whereby according to the most wise and holy counsel of his will he hath freely and unchangeably ordained whatsoever cometh to pass Shall we think that the knowledge of this hath no interest in the saving knowledge of God or in that knowledge which leadeth unto life which yet undeni●bly yeeldeth such a noble ground of Faith Dependence Praise Reverence Humility Hope Consolation Admiration and holy Fear Nay this Man not only doth not asserte or explaine this but as we shall hear doth deny and impugne it with all his might 8. How cometh it 4 That in all his Theses or Apology there is not the least mention direct or indirect made of the Covenant of Redemption or of those mutual actings of the blessed Persons of the Trinity resembling a mutual Covenant and engagement concerning the everlasting Interest of man Shall any man think that this point of truth which is such a sure ground of all our hopes and consolation such a sure support of staggering souls and such an armour of proof against the assaults of Satan maketh no part of that knowledge which leadeth unto life or hath no place in true and saving knowledge 9. Further 5. Doth not the doctrine of the first C●venant of Works entered into with Adam as the representative of M●n-ki●de upon condition of Personal Perfect and Perpetual obedience belong to that necessary knowledge which bringeth forward unto life or unto that knowledge of God in Christ which is begun felicity How is it then that his Theses are so silent herein or at most give us such a darke and jejune hint of this as is next to none as we shall see It is one of the Quakers tenets as Mr Stalham Sheweth in his forecited book Part 1. Sect●7 ●7 that Adam was not under a Covenant of Works that the Law which Adam had in innocency written in his heart was not the moral law that Adam did not stand by the observation of the positive branches given him in command according to that Law So said I. Nayler and R. F. as he sheweth us and that the same Iames Nayler in his Book called The discovery of the Man of sin Pag 23. went about to prove this by such pityful Arguments as these The Covenant of Works saith do this and live but he that is Adam had the life already while he stood in it and so it was not to be obtained by working as if do this and live could not hold forth the condition of continueing in life and againe That the law was added because of transgression which if it had been before the transgression could not have been as if the law must not of necessity be before sin which is the transgression thereof 1. Ioh. 3.4 and could not afterward beheld forth as a glass to discover the foule spots of transgressions and the same would R. F. in the 12. Pag. of his Book go about to prove 10 Moreover 6. If his Theses be such an unfolding of clear and naked truth how cometh it that he speaketh so obscurely and enigmatically of the fall of Adam Doth not the clear and distinct knowledge of this truth concerne such as would be acquaint with true and saving knowledge 11. But especially 7. We may wonder how it cometh to pass that in his Theses which he would give out as a summe of saving knowledge nor in his great Apologie we have no description explication or delineation yea or mention of the Covenant of Grace wherein Life and Salvation Pardon and Acceptance Grace and Glory is promised and offered through faith in Jesus Christ or acceptance of Him as He is offered in the Gospel Shall we think that the knowledge of this is no part of that pure and naked Truth which is necessary to be known Or that it can contribute nothing unto that knowledge of God in Christ which is the sure way unto eternal life How shall he be able to perswade us hereof 12. Againe 8. Shall we think that the doctrine of the Redemption purchased by Christ of the Atonement made by him unto Justice for the sinnes of his people and of their Reconciliation unto and Acceptance with God upon the account thereof of the Sufferings of Christ in Body and Soul in his state of Humiliation of his Death Resurrection and Ascension and Sitting at the Fathers right hand of his Obedience and of the Sacrifice of himself which he through the Eternal Spirit once offered up unto God to satisfie Justice and purchase not only Reconciliation but also an everlasting Inheritance in the Kingdom of Heaven for all such as were given to him of the Father shall we think I say that the knowledge of this is not necessary unto Salvation nor necessary to such as would have such a knowledge of God as is eternal life If he dar not be so impudent as to say so why is there such a shameful silence hereof in his Theses and Book as there is Had he no will to displease his friends the Socinians 13. Further 9. Shall it be thought that the doctrine of the Incarnation of the Son of God the Second Person in the Trinity hath no great interest in that pure and naked truth the knowledge whereof leadeth
he expresseth not in his Thesis and giveth but a short hinte thereof in his Apology of which afterward That Man at first was living and in a good state he insinuateth when he saith that he is now fallen and degenerate but wherein that good and happy condition consisted he explaineth not i● may be he forbeareth to do this lest thereby he should discover some secrets of their mystical Theology which either is not fit as yet to be made known or we are not in case to understand improve aright Some may possibly think that he forbeareth to give an Explication of this or to adde his Testimo●y to the orthodoxe Truth in this point because the Natural Light that is in every man cannot discover or comprehend it Natures Light I grant will never discover without the Revelation of the word the Time when the Manner how nor the Cause and Occasion upon which this inundation took its original I finde that Mr Hicks in his 3 Dial. Pag. 40 41. getteth no satisfaction as to this from Will. Pen speaking thus in his book Pag 29. Herein the● contradicts thy self abusest the Philosophers and blasphemest the light Thou grants the heathens knew there was sin If so how could they be ignorant of sins coming into the world This I say is no way satisfying for though Philosophers did see and could not but see that sin and misery had overflowed all yet by all their Common Light they cou●d not understand how sin entered into the world and death by sin how Adam as a publick person was under a covenant obligation for himself and posterity and how he did violate that Covenant by transgressing the commandement and thus brought-in sin and misery And that which Will. Pen addeth Ibid. saying If thou meanest a clear and distinct account that Adam and Eva were beguiled by the serpent who tempted them 't is no wayes to the purpose not only helpeth not the matter but discovereth also some further latent designe for who seeth not how necessary the knowledge hereof is unto the right understanding of the fall and of the true cause thereof If this were not so as Mr Hicks well saith why did the sacred Penmen give such a full and distinct account hereof in the Scriptures But it may be they have a Parabolical sense and meaning to put upon that whole matter as it is historically related and upon all the passages of Scripture relating thereunto It is also observable that Will. Pen in the forecited page insinuateth that the knowledge of this is not necessary unto salvation for he saith That which is sufficient to that faith which concerns salvation is to know that God is and that he hath given M●n the knowledge of himself and his will concerning him by some inward law Mr St●lham also showeth in his book against the Quakers Pag. 96 9● 100. that I Nailer and R. Farnworth deny That Adam was under a Covenant of works and that he stood by the moral law written in his heart and by the observation of the positive branches given him in command aco●rding to that law as we mentioned above And if the matter stand thus how can they give us a distinct account of the manner and cause of the fall and degeneration 3. He sayeth that this Death and Degeneration is befallen all the race of mankinde quoad primum Adam seu hominem terrestrem that is or I know not what it is concerning or in respect of the first Adam or earthly man By which words it is manifest that he pointeth out and declareth in what respect it is true that all mankinde is become dead and degenerate to wit in respect of the first Adam or the Earthly man and hereby he seemeth to point out the extent of this fall death and degeneration or rather a restriction and limitation of its extent as if he had said It reacheth all Mankinde only as to the Earthly man or the first Adam But what he meaneth by this first Adam and terrestial man I cannot well tell His manner of expression will not give us ground to think that he meaneth our forefather Adam because of whose transgression this death came upon all his posterity but rather that he meaneth something in every man going with them under this name and this thing what ever it be is the only Subject of this Death and Degeneration and so in opposition to this there must be some thing in man which with them will go under the name of the Sec●nd Adam and of the heavenly man and this whatever it be is not obnoxious to this death nor is it degenerated and lapsed This to me must be the native import of his words But how we shall come to a right uptaking of his true meaning I wish he had showne us If we consider what other Quakers have said it may be that thereby we shall be able to make some pro●able conjecture concerning his meaning Mr Hicks Dial. 1. Pag. 16. tels us that Georg Fox a man eminent among the Quakers and accounted by them infallible in his book called the great mystery Pag 6 8 and 100. affirmeth the soul to be part of God and of Gods being And that it is without beginning Pag. 91. and also infinite Pag. 29. And when Will. Pen accuseth Mr Hicks of false dealing in this Mr Hicks Dial. 3. vindicateth himself by citeing Pag. 20. c. George Fox's owne words thus Ge●rg Fox in his Great mystery Pag. 90. speaks thus is not the soul without beginning coming from God returning unto God againe who hath it in his hand and Christ the power of God the Bishop of the soul which brings it up into God which came out from him hath this a beginning or ending And is not this infinite in it self Againe says he Georg Fox tels us Pag. 2 that Magnus Byne saith the soul is not infinite in it self but it is a creature and R. Baxter saith it is a spiritual substance Whereunto Georg Fox replyeth Consider what a condition these called Ministers are in They say that which is a Spiritual substance is not infinite in it self but a creature That which came out of the Creator and is in the hand of the Creator which brings it up to the Creator againe that is infinite in it self The same Mr Hicks saith further The Quakers are accused for saying there is no Scripture that speaketh of an humane soul and for affirming that the soul is taken up into God Hereunto Georg Fox thus answereth Pag 100. God breathed into the man the breath of life and he ●ecame a living soul and is not this which cometh out from God which is in Gods hand part of God from God and to God againe Which soul Christ the power of God is the Bishop of Is not this of his being Yea Will. P●n in vindication of Georg Fox Pag. 66. as Mr Hicks sheweth Dial. 3. Pag. 22. saith That all that can be concluded from Georg Fox's words
or therefore others did not understand them and savingly beleeve them who will receive any of these consequences But mary her self understood not somethings not yet the Apostles And what then did they not understand so much as was then revealed and necessary to salvation And did they not understand after Information Poor man he goeth far to fetch wa●er to no purpose Will any thing here said bring the least reliefe unto his desperat cause and prove that Heathens now without the Church can be saved without the knowledge of Christ Quakers can dream waking I see 12. But Pag. 118. § 27. he saith that several of the Gentiles by this inward light were sensible of the dammage that came by Adam's fall Answ. And what then were they also sensib●e of the advantage that came by Iesus Christ and will all that are sensible of their dammage suffered by Adam's sin be saved This is a wide door to salvation indeed but the Scripture tels us no such thing His citeing of a ●aying of Plato and another of Pithagoras and a third of Plotinus and a fourth of we know not whom whether truely or not is uncertain not doth he name the places where they say so that some who might be so curious as to know the truth might try is to as good purpose as if he did thresh the water for whatever apprehensions these Heathens had of the misery of man and ●et a very small knowledge and reason considering what was obvious to all their eyes might soon have made them say all that he citeth of them here viz. that mens soul is fallen into a dark cave where it converseth with shadowes And that man wandereth in the earth as a stranger exiled from God and that mans soul is like an extinct coal and that the souls wings are clipt so as it cannot flee to God He tels us nothing of their apprehensions of a way of Redemption out of that misery and the knowledge of this we say is necessary unto Salvation Yes in the following words he tels us that they also knew Christ as a remedy to deliver them though not under that denomination Then sure they had not this knowledge by Revelation For divine Revelation would have given the knowledge of Christ under the right denomination but by natures light And if Natures Light will lead people to a crucified Christ we may burne the bible But how proveth he this He tels us that Seneca Epist. 41. speaks of an holy Spirit that is in us that teacheth us as we receive him What is in this true or false ● cannot judge at present not having that book by me only I must tell him that the Scriptures speak of no holy ghost in every man And that the Holy Ghost and Christ Immanuel God-man is not one and the same and that faith in Christ is required unto salvation And might no● Seneca meane hereby Reason which the Scriptures tell us is now corrupt and carnal and an enemy to the Gospel Sure that passage he citeth next of Cicero's out of Lactan. Too long here to translate and insert is speaking of nothing as the words cleare but of Reason and it is expresly called so recta ratio given to every man Is this the Quakers Gospel-Teacher Saviour Christ and Redeemer Why doth he else where seem to cry out against the Socinians When here he cryeth up so much with them and with heathens pure Reason Is this the Holy Ghost that acts leads and guides them and teacheth them all their divinity poor souls Are they so in love with paganisme that for its sake they will renunce all Christianity 13. There is a mighty argument following which must be noticed it is this The Heathens call this Reason or I know not what wisdom and this is the name that is given to Christ in the Scriptures Prov. 1 20. 8 9 34. Ergo what Therefore t●e Heathens knew Christ. Is not this a noble argument well becoming such as pretend to rare light and knowledg and to nothing lesse then Revelations and Inspirations It is no wonder that they say Christ is in them for they are possessours ●f wisdom and Christ is called wisdom Did he ne●er read that the wisdom of this world is foolishness and that the world by wisdom knew not God And was this Christ because he is elsewhere called wisdome did he never read that God would destroy the wisdom of the wise and is the meaning of this that God would destroy Christ because Christ is somewhere called wisdom What notions of men destracted or rather judicially given up of God are these Hence saith he further such among the Gentiles as left that which was evil and turned to that which was good and justice were called Philosophers that is lovers of wisdom But what if he be mistaken in the ground or reason of this name given or assumed And whether he be mistaken or not what can he make of it Belike he would say They were lovers of Christ for Christ is called wisdom Is not this man a noble advocat for Heathens and worthy of his hire Are not these all very strong arguments to prove that Heathens knew Christ though not under that notion and therefore may be saved But Phocilides who knoweth where said saith he that that was best wisdom which was had by inspiration of God And could not blinde nature have told him so much Was this such an excellent piece of knowledge that it may truely be called saving And was this the knowledge of Christ under some other denomination Could not the devil say as much And may he therefore also be saved What were this mans thoughts busied about when he wrote these things was he dreaming Or in a rapture of Quakerisme or sunck into his introversion where he lost all humane Reason 13. Then Pag. 119. he saith he could produce many such But to what purpose To prove saith he that they knew Christ by his work working in them by which they were turned fr●m unrighteousness to righteousness and made lovers of his power and whereby they felt themselves delivered from evil If this be the conclusion that he would pro●e why hath he not brought one testimony to this end what he hath hithertill adduced agreeth as well with this conclusion as harp doth with harrow But the Ap●stle he addeth saith they did shew the work of the law written in their hearts and therefore as all were doers of the law so without doubt they were justified We spoke to this before and this man is tedious in his repetitions for want of arguments only I note that I see now he concludeth that all the Heathens were saved for they were all ●ith him doers of the law and that because they had all the work of the law written in their hearts and so were all justified Happy Heathens if so and if so it were better to be Heathens than Christians for all Christians are not justified and saved though they have
Iustification is an act of Gods free grace unto sinners Rom. 3 23 24 25 and ● 5. in which he pardoneth all their sins accepteth and accounteth their persons righteous in his sight 2 Cor. 5 19 21. Rom. 3 22 24 25 27 28. not for any thing wrought in them or done by them Tit. 3.5 Ephes. 1 7. but only for the perfect obedience and full satisfaction of Christ by God imputed to them Rom. 5 17 18 19. 4 vers 6 7.8 and received by faith alone Act. 10 53. Gal. 2 16. Phil. ● 7. Adde to this Q. 72. What is justifying faith A. justifying faith is a saving grace Heb. 10 39. wrought in the heart of a sinner by the Spirit 2 Cor. 4 13 Ephes. 1 17 18 19. and the word of God Rom. 10 ●4 17 whereby he being convinced of his sin and misery and of the disability in himself and all other creatures to recover him out of his lost condition Act. 2 ●7 and 16 30. Ioh. 16 8 9. Rom. 5 6 Ephes. 2 1. Act. 4 12. not only assenteth to the truth of the promise of the Gospel Ephes. 1 13. but receiveth and resteth upon Christ and his righteousness therein held forth for pardon of sin I●h 1 12. Act. 16 31. 10 53. and for the accepting and accounting of his person righteous in the sight of God for Salvation Phil. 3 9. Act. 15 11 And Q. 73. How doth faith Iustifie a sinner in the sight of God Answ. Faith justifieth a sinner in the sight of God not because of these other graces which do alwayes accompany it or of good works that are the fruits of it Gal. 3 11. Rom. 3 28. Nor as if the grace of faith or any act thereof were imputed to him for his justification Rom. 4 5. with Rom. ●0 10. but only as it is an instrument by which he receiveth and applyeth Christ his righteousness Ioh. 1 1● Phil. 3 19. Gal 2 16. With all we will be h●lped to understand the orthodox truth in this matter by considering two other questions to wit Q 75. What is Sanctification A. Sanctification is a work of Gods grace whereby they whom God hath before the foundation of the world chosen to be holy are in time through the powerful operation of his Spirit Heb. 1 4. 1 Cor. 6.11 2 Thes. 1 13. applying the death and resurrection of Christ unto them Rom. 6 4 5.6 renewed in their whole man after the image of God Ephes. 4 23 24. having the seeds of repentance unto life and of all other saving graces put into their hearts Act. 11 18. 1 Ioh. 3 9 and those graces so stirred up increased and strengthened Iud. vers 20. Heb. 6 11 12. Ephes. 3 16 17 18 19. Col. 1 10 11. as that they more and more die unto sin and rise unto newness of life Rom 6 to 14. Gal. 5 24 with Q. 77. Wherein do Iustification and Sanctification differ Answere Although Sanctification be inseparably joyned with Iustification 1 Cor. 6 11. and 1 30. Yet they differ in that God in Iustification imputeth the righteousness of Christ Rom. 4 6 8. in Sanctification his Spirit infuseth grace and inableth to the exercise thereof Ezech. 36 27. In the former sin is pardoned Rom. 3 23 25. in the other it is subdued Rom. 6 6 14. the one doth equally free all believers from the revenging wrath of God and that perfectly in this life that they never fall into condemnation Rom. 8 33 34. the other is neither equal in all 1 Ioh. 2 v. 12 13 14. Heb. 5 12 13 14. Nor in this life perfect in any 1 Ioh. 1 8 10. but groweth up to perfection 2 Cor. 7 1. Phil. 3 12 13 14. ●hus we have the orthodox doctrine in this point fully cleared and confirmed 3. Let us next see wh●t is the opinion of the Q●akers in this matter And before we examine particularly what this Man with whom we deal saith we shall shortly see what other Quakers have maintained before Mr Clapham in his book against the Quakers Sect. 5. tels us that I. Nayler in his Love to the lost P. 3. joyneth with the Papists and pleads for our being made righteous by Gods putting in righteousness in us and by righteousness wrought in the creature And P. 50. with Papists he confounds Justification Sanctification and Mortification and argueth for it as they do So Mr Stalham in his book against them Part. 1 Sect. 22. sheweth out of their owne words what friends they are unto the man of sin by laying the bottome of a believers justification not upon Christs obedience but upon sanctification And Sect. 25. he tels us that I. Nailer said that the man of sin is discovered in them who say beleevers are pure and spoteless too by reason of imputation and in his Love to the lost p. 51. that men are so justified as they are sanctified and mortified and no further And that F. Howgil in The inheritance of Iacob Pag. 29. hath these words Christ fulfilled the Law and he fulfils it in them who know him and his work and herein man becomes to be justified in Gods sight by Christ who works all our works in us and for us Mr Hicks in his 2 Dialogue Pag. 4. tels us that Isaak Pennington asks this question Can outward blood cleanse And saith Therefore we must enquire whether it was the blood of the vail that is of the humane nature or the blood within the vail viz. of that spiritual man consisting of flesh bloud and bones which took on him the vail or humane nature It is not the bloud of the vail that is but outward and can outward blood cleanse And that Edward Billing most wickedly said that the mystery of iniquity lyes in the bloud of Christ. And that these words frequently drop from their mouthes dost thou look at Christs death afar off What will that bloud avail Didst ever see any of it That carnal bloud cleanse If thou hadst a great deal of it would it do thee any good If such as speak thus of the precious bloud of Christ can have right thoughts of Justification the sober may easily judge And what intimation Edward Burroughs giveth about this may be seen there P. 18 22 c. I love not to transcribe the words only that which he hath Pag. 26. seemeth to be plaine Thou beast who would have another righteousness than that which Christ works in the saints and by them He tels us likewise ib. Pag. 31. that Will Pen Sandy foundation Pag. 29.30 hath these words Obedience to justification ought to be as personally extensive as was mans disobedience to condemnation In which real not imputative sense those various termes of Sanctification Righteousness Resurrection Life Redemption Iustification c. are most infallibly understood for impute or imputing signifies no more in Scriptures but to express men really and personally to be that which is imputed to them whether as guilty or remitted For any to
must be when he saith we are not Justified by the Law that we are indeed justified by Inherent Holiness or Conformity to the law What more The meaning of these words we are Iustified by faith sayes he may by we are made just by faith purifieing the heart Ans. Then the Apostles should contradict himself for if we be thus made just by faith we are made just by works and further purifying of the heart cannot otherwise be understood but of renewing the heart but Iustifying signifieth not making just Againe sayes he When we are said to be Iustified by grace by Christ by the Spirit what absurdity to understand this of making just Ans. Of being Justified by the Spirit we read ●ot for these words by the Spirit mentioned 1 Cor. 6 11. are to be referred to washing and sanctification When we are said to be Justified by grace it is by the gracious and free favour of God as our Divines make good against the Papists and that with the circumstances of the places are against such a Justification Nor must we any where so interpret any passage as to make it crosse or contradict other passages When we are said to be Justified by Christ the meaning is clear against his sense 31. He citeth againe 1 Cor. 6 11. not 11 6. and then tels us that Thysius thinketh that Iustification here includeth sanctification as its consequent and that Zanchius in Ephes. 2 4. thinketh it is the same with sanctification And that Bullinger on the place sayes the Apostle in diverse words expresseth the same thing Ans. 1. None of these Divines confound them and make them one as this Quaker doth but distinctly and orthodoxly explaine the nature both of Justi●●cation and Sanctification 2. As I said above though this were granted that the word Iustify should import the same with sanctify in this or that place Yet unlesse he made it manifest that it alwayes so importeth and can never be taken in another sense he could not make good his Assertion and Opinion So that in all this work he is but beating the winde 3. Thysius had no ground to speak so seing sancti●●cation is as well expressed as Justification but ye are sanctified but ye are justified 4. Bullinger saith no more than what Calvin saith yet Calvin distinguisheth them in his Comment on the place Zanchius saith no such th●ng in the place cited 32. In the next place Pag. 138. he citeth with Bellarm. Rom. 8 30. And saith that either Sanctification must be excluded or Iustification must be taken in its proper sense Ans. 1. There is no necessity for either for Sanctification is comprehended under Vocation which is saving and effectual otherwise the linkes of this chaine could be broken for a common and ineffectual call is not attended with Justification and Glorification And effectual Vocation is by infusion of grace and the Spirit of holiness and a real change 2. Sanctification might be comprehended under the word Iustified it being a necessary and inseparable consequent and that without any prejudice to the native usual and constant import of the word Iustified 3. Thereafter vers 33.34 the Apostle cleareth in what sense he took Iu●tified when he opposeth it unto condemned a forensical terme and to accused another His citing of some Protestants so saying I passe finding no argument alleiged by them to enforce this acceptation Melanthon's saying that to be Iustified by faith doth not only signify to be pronunced just but to be made just May admit of a saife interpretation for he saith not to be made just by inherent righteousness And it is certain that all that are Justified are first made just not by inherent righteousness but by the Imputed righteousness of Christ. What he citeth out of one Martinus Boraeus I cannot examine having never seen the book Bucer's words cited make nothing for him B. Forbes's words I will not justify but judge that Cardinal Contarenus spoke more orthodoxly then he The Fathers so taking the word sometimes moveth not me more nor it did Calvin Chemnitius and Zanchius cited by himself And further if to justify signifie to make righteous to accuse and to condemne which are opposite terms must signifie to make unrighteous or unjust 33. After this § Pag. 140. he bringeth in his conclusion from what he hath said and it is a bold one Having now sufficiently saith he proved that by Iustification must be understood to be made really just This is concluded like a Quaker with unparalleled falshood impudency and boldness He undertook only to prove that the word might without absurdity be so understood and how weakly he hath done this we have seen But now he wonderfully concludeth a must be from a may be and that too no wayes satisfyingly proved But I have said already that the beleever who is Justified may be said to be really made just but not in his sense nor because of the import of the word as he alleigeth but because the judgment of God is according to truth and God will not justifie an unjust man The Justified person therefore is first made just not by Inherent Holiness and Righteousness but by the Righteousness of Christ Imputed to him and Received by faith What saith he next I do confidently affirme from real and sensible experience but the delusory sensations or impressions of an erroneous Spirit on the mindes of persons given up to strong delusion is no demonstration to us of the verity of what they boldly affirme that the immediat next and formal cause whereby a man is Iustified in the sight of God is the revelation of Christ in the soul who converteth and reneweth the minde and he who is the Author of this work being so formed and revealed we are truely Iustified and accepted in the sight of God Ans. 1. Who seeth not that these things as here expressed are not such as can fall under the inward sensations of the soul Can the soul feel what is the Immediat Nearest or Formal Cause of God's acts What needs more proof of a desperat delusion 2. If the revelation of Jesus Christ be such a cause of Justification Justification cannot be a making just for it is not as he sayes the revelation that converteth and reneweth but Christ revealed and if Christ revealed maketh the change ●ustification doth it not nor can Justification be a declareing of one righteous because of inherent righteousness for here the man is Justified upon the revelation and yet the man is not renewed for he is not renewed by the revelation but by Christ revealed and the Revelation of Christ is before this Operation of Christ. 3. If the man be not justified till Christ be formed in him as his last words seem to say then the revelation of Christ cannot be the Immediat cause of Justification because that is before this forming of Christ in the man for it is before the work of Christ reforming and renewing the minde 4. I see all this
because he saith it and so there is an end When the Apostle saith Phil. 1 v. 28. And in nothing terrified by your adversaries which is to you an evident toaken of salvation he pointed at something which might be looked upon as a ground for hope of glory must we also leane to that in justification After some lines wherein after his usual manner he must extravage he saith And such as feel Christ after this manner raised and reigning in them have a true ground of hope to beleeve that they are justified Which is very true because these works of Christ are inseparable fruites and effects of Justification After some few words againe to no purpose he tels us that Borhaeus Claudius Albericus Inuncunanus Essius three whose books I never saw and whose names I never heard before I read this Quakers book are for Justification by this Revelation And he calleth them Protestants but if so I have read of some Papists more sound then they are if their meaning be one and the same with this Quakers And finally he citeth some words of Mr. Baxters Aphorismes But he cannot be ignorant that Mr Baxters notions in this particular are little satisfying beside that Mr Baxter himself will have none citeing that book as expressing his plaine and full meaning And if he would put the mater to the issue of tryal by humane testimony we should give him Twenty for one 38. Now followeth his Third proposition wherein he asserteth two things first That good works seing they naturally proceed from this birth as heat from the fire are absolutely necessary unto justification as a causa sine qua non in which we are justified and without which we cannot be justified Secondly That such good works are pure and perfect These he cometh to prove Pag. 144. c. And they would appear to be a contradiction for seing good works are the fruites of this birth and by the birth we are justified good works must follow justification and so cannot be a cause no not a causa sine qua non for even a causa sine qua non must be before the effect Againe what is that to say in which we are justified Is the meaning only that these works are approven of God we upon the account of them so farr as they are done according to a Gospel rule What will this say for justification of State whereof we are here speaking finally How can it be said that without good works we cannot be justified seing we are justified by the Birth and the Birth is but the cause of good works and so it hath been said that good works are the Effects and Consequences of Justification This would suspend justification until good works appeared so we should be justified by the Bi●th only Initially or in a preparatory way but not fully And further in this he is worse then Papists who will not say that the good works by which we are justified are such as can stand before Gods tribunal if He follow the strick rigour of Law and not the Gospels admixture of mercy 39. Let us hear his proofs The first is our of Iames 2. whence he frameth this Argument If no man be justified without faith and no faith be lively and valide unto justification without works then works are necessary unto justification But the former is true c. Answ. 1. Though it be true that no man at least come to yeers of discretion is justified without faith as an instrumental cause laying hold on and applying Christ and his righteousness yet this faith is not the Causa formalis objectiva of justification and far less can works be a part of this cau●e seing they are but fruites and consequences of this faith 2. These words and no faith is lively and valide unto justification without works may admit of a double sense either the meaning may be that no faith is valide unto justification but that which is true and lively and apt to produce good works or that no faith is valide unto justification but that which is actually produceing good works and in so far as it is attended with good works If the first be the meaning then it is apparent that good works cannot be said to be necessary unto justification as a cause thereof for it may be in actual ●eing when they are but in potentia If the last be the true sense this place of Iames will not evince it for Abraham was justified before he offered up his Son Isaac And then it would follow that no man is justified in his sleep or when he is not actually doing some good work 3. Thus we see and the place of Iames is clear for it that good works are only necessary in the person justified and necessary to prove the truth and reality of a justif●ing faith to the man self and to others And so notwithstanding hereof that is alwayes true that the Scripture saith Abraham beleeved God and it was imputed to him for righteousness Iames 2 23. Gen. 15 6. Rom. 4 3. Gal. 3 6. 40. His second proof is from several Scriptures as Heb. 12 14. Mat. 7 21. Iohn 13 17. 1 Cor. 7 19. Revel 22 1● and he thus frameth it If these only shall enter into the Kingdom who do the will of the Father if these only be called wise builders blessed that do the sayings of Christ c. then good works are necessary to salvation and to justification The former is true c. Answ. Not to quarrel at the Proposition as containing words in it which are not in the places cited We shortly answ that not one of these places speak of Justification or mention the necessity of works thereunto But only of their necessity unto final salvation which we deny not And if his Argument hold no man shall be justified before he be in heaven All therefore that can hence be concluded is that good works are necessary in the person justified in order to glory but not that they are necessary unto justification 41. These two are all his arguments and how slender proofs they are of what he undertook to prove let any judge He cometh in the next place § 10. to answere some Objections The first is taken from Luk. 17 10. When ye have done all that is commanded say we are unprofitable servants Which is a clear proof that our works being but a doing of that which is commanded and so a doing of duty and such as bring no advantage unto God as a reparation of his Glory or satisfaction to his justice for the wrongs done and therefore can have no interest in that which is the causa formalis objectiva of our justification or in that which we must lean to as the ground of our justification before God or in that upon which we may expect absolution from the sentence of the Law and freedom from the wrath and curse of God due for the breach of
Body the fulness of him that filleth all in all Ephes. 1 10 22 23. 5 23 27 32. Col. 1 18. The visible Church which is also Catholick or Universal under the Gospel not confined to one Nation as before under the Law consists of all these throughout the world that profess the true Religion 1 Cor. 1 2. 12 12 13. Psal. 2 8. Revel 7 9 Rom. 15 9 10 11 12. together with their children 1 Cor. 7 14. Act. 2 39. Ezech. 16 20 21. Rom. 11 16. Gen. 3 15. 17 7. and is the Kingdom of the Lord Iesus Christ Mat. 13 47. Esai 9 7. the house and family of God Ephes 2 19. 3.15 out of which there is no ordinary possibility of Salvation Act. 2 47. Unto this Catholick visible Church Christ hath given the Ministrie Oracles and Ordinances of God for the gathering and perfecting of the Saints in this life to the end of the world And doth by his owne Presence and Spirit according to his promise make them eff●ctual thereunto 1 Cor. 12 28. Ephes. 4 11 12 13. Mat. 28 19 20. Esai 59 21. Adde hereunto Quaest. 63. of our Larger Catechisme What are the special privileges of the Visible Church Ans. The visible Church hath the privilege of being under God's special care and government Esai 4 5 6. 1 Tim. 4 10. of being protected and preserved in all ages notwithstanding the opposition of all enemies Psal. 115. throughout Esai 31 4 5. Zech. 12 2 3 4 8 9. and of enjoying the Communion of saints the ordinary Meanes of Salvation Act. 2 39 42. Offers of grace by Christ to all the members of it in the ministrie of the Gospel testifying that whosoever believes in him shall be saved Psal. 147 19 20. Rom. 9 4. Ephes. 4 11 12. Mark 16 15 16. and excluding none that will come unto him Ioh. 6 37. 2. Here is our doctrine laid downe in few words What would this man now say He giveth us first the Etymology of the greek word that we render Church and thence tels us that an Eccl●sia or Church is nothing else but a company of such as God hath called out of this world Against which I have nothing to say only for clearing the matter I would adde That there is a company called out of the world by the grace of God power of his Spirit to worshipe him in Spirit and in Truth and this is that company which is called the Church invisible because their union with their Head and with one another is by a bond of true and saving Faith and sincere Love which are not obvious to the eyes of men As also there is a greater company of persons called out of the world to profess the Name of Jesus to worshipe Him outwardly according to his word and to owne him for their King by submitting to his Lawes Ordinances Officers by an outward profession And this is that company which is called the visible Church because both their exercise their bond of union with this King with one another is outward obvious to the eye to wit an open Profession of the true Religion outward submission to following of the ordinances institutions of Christ But as to this visible Church in his following words he seemeth to take no notice thereof for he describeth to us the Church Invisible and then tels us that without this Church there is no salvation But this is impertinently spoken for that Church is made up only of the elect And if we should speak of the Invisible Chur●h as now existing in this world we could not say that any elect belonged to it but such as were effectually called for the rest were not yet called out of the world or out of their state of nature and he told us that a church is a company of persons called out of the world To say th●n that there is no salvation out of that company that are already affectually called is neither pertinent nor truth for there are many who are not yet called whom God will in due time call and bring home and these whom he hath elected he doth bring into the visible Church where they may enjoy the ordinances which God hath appointed ●or Conversion And therefore we say that out of this visible Church there is ordinarily no salvation But all this is said by him to make way for his Church that will take in Heathens Pagans Turks and Tartars that never heard nor never shall hear a word of Jesus Christ which Church as he would delineate it to us hath not the least relation to Christ as Head and King nor any advantage of or interest in the Institutions of Jesus Christ. And what a Church this shall be let any sober Christian judge 3. But let us heare himself speak He calleth the Church a company of such as God hath called out of this world that they may walk in his light and Life One might readily suppose that this were good but hear more Vnder this notion saith he of the Church all these are comprehended of what Nation Kinde Tongue or Family they be though far removed from and strangers to these who profess Christ and Christianity in words and enjoy the Scriptures who obey the divine light and testimony of God within them so as by it they become sanctified and washen Ans. That is in short All Heathens and Pagans who have never heard of Christ or of Christianity belong to this Church of persons called out of the world to walk in God's Light and Life if they have obeyed the Light of Nature and of a Natural Conscience teaching to abstean from grosse sinnes This is the Quakers Church and the Church of persons effectually called out of the world which they mean which is nothing else but a Church of moralized Pagans A pagan-Church without the Knowledge of Christ Profession of Christ Faith in Christ Worshipe of Christ Acknowledgment of Christ Union with Christ without the Gospel of Christ and the Spirit of Christ. An● though he call this the Catholick Spirit and the secret life and vertue of Iesus Yet it is in truth nothing but Catholick nature which cannot understand the things of the Gospel This is further confirmed by what he addeth Therefore saith he they may be members of this Catholick Church who are Pagans Turks and Iewes and of every seck among Christians if they be good single hearted men though they be ignorant and superstitious Thus we see the Quakers Church is erected according to the Covenant of works and that now broken founded upon the Law of Nature directed by the Light of Nature and to it belong all civil outwardly moral persons whatever Religion they have and how superstitious soever they be Yea though they worshipe stocks and stones and the Devil for there is no exception here Reader what thinkest thou now of this Church of this Profession and of this Religion It is Catholick I confess alas
satisfie for sins 296 5. Christ with them procureth remission in procuring grace whereby Christ is formed within 308 24. Of Iustification 1. They confound Justification with Sanctification 295 2. And say that we are justified as we are sanctified 295 3. It is ridiculous and worse with them to think to be justified by the imputation of anothers righteousness 295 4. Yea they say such a justification is irrational irreligious ridiculous and dangerous 296 5. It is an abomination to say we are justified by imputation 296 6. Yea they call it a doctrine of Devils an arme of corruption 296 7. By the light within we are justified as well as sanctified say they 297 8. All the reconciliation we have by Christ is that we are made capable of reconciliation 302 303 304 308 9. Sanctification with them is the formal cause of Justification 305 311 10. They say we are justified by the revelation of Christ in the soul 316 11. We are justified by works of grace say they 321 12. What righteousness say they Christ performed without us is not our justification nor are we saved thereby 550 13. They deny all imputation of righteousness 11 25. Of Perfection 1. They say works done by grace are perfect 322 323 2. They plead for the perfection of Saints here 325. c. 3. They hold a perfect freedom from all sin 325 4. Sanctification must be perfect because say they it is Christ himself 326 5. Yet they say this perfection may be lost 332 6. And that some may come to that hight of perfection that they cannot sinne any more 332 26. Of Perseverance 1. They assert the Apostasie of the Saints 350. c. 27. Of Infallibility 1. They plead for infallibility to Ministers and to all Christians 378 28. Of the Patriachs 1. They say the Patriarchs had no faith of the Messias to come 289 29. Of the Church 1. They take-in under the Church all who obey the light within howbeit not professours of Christ or of Christianity 361 2. Pagans Turks Jewes though both Ignorant and Superstitious are members of the Church of the saved with them if they be good single hearted men 361 3. All members of their Churches teach 362 4. Such as are ignorant of the very history of Christ may be members of the Catholick Church that is of the Church of the saved 362 5. Yet members of particular Christian Churches must give assent and credite to truths delivered in the Scriptures 362 6. Outward profession is necessary to make one a member of a particular congregated Church though not of the Catholick Church 364 7. They deny men to be Christians by birth 364 8. They say none can be a member of the Church without grace 379 9. They make the Church or Fold the same with the Shepherd 545 10. With them all Members are Officers 10 30. Of Ministers 1. They say the light received prepareth constituteth and fournisheth a Minister 365 370 2. Ministers must be called by the Spirit and know that they are led and moved by the Spirit and be sensible of the work of the Spirit and of his inward call 372 3. The power and life of the Spirit is the most necessary qualification of a Minister 378 4. Ministers must have no learning but what is taught by the Spirit 283 384 386 5. They would have Ministers learning trades whereby to live 396 6. They will not have Ministers make use of what they have learned or read in their sermons 438 7. They will not have Ministers studying their sermons 431 441 8. They account all such Ministers of the world and of the letter who are for the ordinances of Christ 545 31. Of the Ministrie 1. They say all things concerning the Ministrie are in confusion in the Christian Church 366 2. They are against the Ministerial Office 387 389 3. They deny the distinct offices and officers in the Apostles dayes 388 389 391 4. They account all the Offices Officers Fo●mes Shadowes 388 5. And to be the work of Anti-Christ the mystery of iniquity 389 6. They make the work of the Ministrie common to all 390 7. They make it free to all to preach in publick when moved by the Spirit 393 8. They deny there was any such Officers as Euangelists 393 394 9. They say Apostles Prophets c. were but distinct names 394 10. They allow women to preach publickly in the Churches 397 32. Of Ordination 33. They deny Ordination and Imposition of hands 377 33. Of Ordinances 1. They deny all external institutions in Worshipe 381 2. They do not acknowledge a precept for an ordinance where there is an Institution 491 3. They are against all ordinances calling them formes 545 4. They deny that ever God did or will reveal himself by them 545 5. They say Christ blotted them out and they must not be touched 545 6. To seek Christ in ordinances is to seek the living among the dead 545 546 34. Of the Sabbath 1. They deny the Lord's day to be the Christian Sabbath 412 2. They hold all dayes alike 412 35. Of Worship 1. They say all Worshipe must be done by inward Inspirations as to time place duration 411 2. They condemne our having a Preacher to preach in our solemne Worshipe 412 3. External actions in Worshipe need particular influences or enthusiasmes 461 4. When we move say they without the Spirit it is the uncleane part which offereth to God which he will not accept 545 36. Of the Quakers Worshipe 1. They have no preparation to their Worshipe 412 413 2. Nor do they beginne with prayer 413 3. Nor do they make any use of the Scriptures in their Worshipe 413 5. In their Worshipe they unchristian and un-man themselves 414 6. They talk of God's power transmitted from Vessel to Vessel whereby when one is affected all are affected 415 7. They lay aside all words even Scripture words in their Worshipe 415 8. Then they must Introvert unto the inward principle within them as unto the most excellent Doctor 415 9. This doctor teacheth them to cease from their own words and actions to feel the inward seed of life thereby be moved to pray preach or sing 416 10. And hence cometh a floud of refreshment that runneth over the whole company 416 11. And then they need neither Baptisme nor the Lords Supper 417 12. If one present be not introverted if the power be a little raised in the assembly he is presently laid hold on and this power warmeth him as fire warmeth a man 417 13. If any present wander in their imaginations one in whom the life is raised will feel a travelling womans paines for them and they will be pricked secretly though nothing be spoken 417 14. Yea if a stranger come to gaze mock he is so terrified at the sight that if his day of visitation be not past he becometh a convert 418 15. In the first place they must of necessity be silent
the new covenant 13. Universal proper Fruits and Effects of this death whereby all the outward favours that Heathens enjoy are said to be purchased for them by Christ and why not also what Devils enjoy 47. Finally 36. This assertion of Universal Redemption laith the ground of and maketh way to a new frame of the Covenant of Grace quite overturning its Nature and transforming it into a new covenant of works making it one and the same with that as to kinde and only to differ as to the change of conditions to be performed by man for as in the first covenant Adam was to obtaine right to and possession of life promised in by for through and upon the account of his fulfilling the condition of perfect obedience imposed by the Lord so in the New covenant man is to obtaine and acquire to himself a right to and possession of the Life promised in by for through and upon the account of his performance of the Condition of Faith and new obedience now imposed in the Gospel and all the difference is that instead of perfect obedience to the which was the condition of the first covenant now Faith and sincere Gospel Obedience is made the condition And thus we can no less be said to be justified by works of the Law or which we do then Adam should have been said to have been so justified had he stood and this justification giveth as great ground of boasting unto man and of making the reward of debt and not of grace as justification by the first covenant would have done for though it be said that Christ hath made satisfaction to justice for the breach of the first Law and thereby purchased to all upon Condition Iustification Salvation yet this removeth not the difficulty for what is purchased by Christ's death is made Universal Common to all and so can be nothing according to our Adversaries but a putting of all men in statu quo prius in case to run obtaine the prize for themselves as God's absolute free love put Adam in that condition at first Christ's death though thereby as they say he purchased the New Covenant which with them is the chiefe if not the only effect and fruit of his Death Merites can be no more than a very remote ground of Right to Life and Salvation unto any person for it is made Universal Common to all so that all have equal share therein and advantage thereby man himself by performing the new conditions only making the difference so that the immediat ground of the Right to life which any have is their own Faith and Obedience or performance of the New Covenant-conditions Whereby it is manifest that as to our Particular and Immediat Right to Happiness we are to plead our own works lean to them as our ground whereupon we may stand and appear before God's Tribunal and upon the account thereof plead for the crown as our due debt having now run for it performed the condition agreed upon and so sing praises to ourselves instead of singing praises to our Redeemer Hence the righteousness wherein we must appear before God is not the Righteousness of Christ but our own for the Righteousness of Christ say they is only imputed in regaird of its effects whereof the new Covenant is the All or the Chiefe and so that doth not become the Righteousness of any man nor can be said to be imputed to any man properly which also they assert but his own Faith is only imputed properly which also they plead for as his Righteousness not as a Way Medium or Methode of Gospel-Righteousness especially when Gospel-Obedience is adjoyned The Righteousness of Christ bein● hereby only accounted to be imputed in that it hath procured that our own Gospel Righteousness Faith and new Obedience shall be imputed to us as our Immediat Righteousness the ground of our Right to Glory What accord is betwixt this frame of the Covenant of Grace and that way of justification held forth by Socinians Arminians Papists the learned will easily see and how contrary it is to the Covenant of Grace held forth in the Gospel hitherto professed maintained by the orthodox every one acquan●ed therewith cannot be ignorant it is obvious how opposite this is unto w●at the Apostle saith Phil. 3 8 9. yea doubtless and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Iesus my Lord for whom I have suffered the loss of all things and do count them but dung that I may win Christ and be found i● him not having mine own Righteousness which is of the Law but that which is through the faith of Christ the Righteousness which is of God by faith And Tit. 3 5 6 7. Not by works of Righteousness which we have done but according to his mercy he saved us by the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost which he shed on us abundantly through Iesus Christ our Saviour that being justified by his grace we should be made heires according to the hope of eternal life And Rom. 3 20 21 22 24. Theref●re by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified but now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Iesus Christ unto all and upon all them that beleeve being justified freely by his grace through the Redemption that is in Iesus Christ. And many other places It is no less clear how hereby the true nature of justifying faith and Gospel obedience is perverted and with all how dangerous this is if put into practice or if men act ilve accordingly every serious exercised Christian knoweth 48. Having thus briefly laid down our grounds for a Particular and against an Universal Redemption we come to see what our Quaker sayeth for Universal Redemption which he supposeth to be so clearly asserted in Scripture that hardly any other article of Christian Religion can compare with it as to this but the confidence of a Quaker acted and led by a Spirit of delusion is no convincing argument to me Let us see his grounds He citeth Luk. 2 10. addeth He sayeth not to a few of the people but if the comeing of Christ had not brought a Possibility of Salvation unto all it might rather have bin called tideings of great griefe to the m●st part of the people Answ. If Christ had only brought a Possibility of salvation with him the Gospel had bin the tideings of joy to no flesh for Salvation upon a Condition Impossible is no salvation 2. Did Christ bring a Possibility with him to the damned if not where is his Universal Redemption 3 It is said here to be to all people because the Offer and Meanes thereof were not now to be limited to one Nation of the Jewes as formerly but the Lord was to have a people out of all Kinreds Nations Tongues Languages yet
were challenged and rebuked for the contempt of the Gospel or of Christ offered in the Gospel that was never revealed unto them for as man as have sinned without Law shall also perish without Law Rom. 2 vers 12. So as many as have sinned without the Go●pel shall p●rish without the Gospel for how can they believe in him of whom they have not heard And how can they hear without a Preacher And how shall they preach except they be sent Rom. 10 14 15. 3. What blasphemy is it to say that God and Christ are involved in this thing Do not their hearts quake at such expressions 9. What more And as saith he it is received in the heart and is not hindered from produceing its own natural and proper effect Christ is formed and raised in the heart of which the Scripture maketh frequent mention which is called the new man Christ in the saints the hope of glory This is that inward Christ of which we only and so often speak and whom we declare every where preaching him and exhorting all that they would believe in the light and obey it that they might know Christ born and raised up in themselves and delivering them from all sin Ans. Here is a short and clear account of the mysterie of iniquity the abomination of desolation which they owne maintaine and preach who are called Quakers the sworne enemies of the Gospel grace of God To which we say 1. When it is said to be received in the heart it is supposed that formerly it was not in the heart And how can this be seing he said before that it was in every one Or was it only in their head and not in their heart 2. Did ever Pelagius more Pelagianize than doth this Quaker Or can there be anything imagined more opposite to the Gospel and to the rich grace of God therein revealed than to say that there is in every man Heathen Barbarian and Scythian who never heard of Christ in the Gospel that the proper and natural effect of which is to forme Christ in the soul Why did the Apostle Paul then say Gal. 4 19. My little children of whom I travail in birth againe until Christ be formed in you What needed the Apostle be at all this paines and paine to travail in birth for that which could have been wrought though he and the Gospell which he preached had never been heard of And what need is there of the preaching of the Gospel if the whole Gospel and the whole Grace of God necessary to the forming of Christ in the soul be in every Heathen that never heard of the Gospel Can there be any thing invented by Satan more contradictory to that Gospel whereby life and immortality is brought to light Is there any thing imaginable that more directly crosseth and annulleth the whole frame of the Gospel in all its parts and overturneth its very Foundations 3. The Scripture indeed maketh frequent mention of the Grace of God manifested in the Gospel and of the effects brought to passe by the Gospel and the Grace of God working thereby but it no where saith that there is any thing in the heart of man by nature which produceth Christ in the soul the hope of glory as its proper and natural Effect Nay the whole book of God declareth the plaine contrary when it not only sheweth us the blindness and wickedness of the heart of every man till it be renewed by grace consequently the utter impotency of nature to worke salvation but also sheweth that all that which the light in every man can eye as its object being only the works of Creation Providence is utterly insufficient for attaining this end because those works can declare nothing of the Gospel mystery whatever it may do of the Law Hence the times of the Gentiles living without the Gospel are called times of ignorance at which God winked Act. 17 30. and times wherein God suffered all nations to walk in their own wayes Act. 14 vers 16. so that they were alienated from the life of God Ephes. 4 18. having the understanding darkened and being under ignorance because of the blindness and hardness of heart The Gospel doth every where tell us that we cannot be justified by the works of the Law and yet all that which this Common Light can do is but to ●nforme and that most imperfectly of somethings required by the Law of Nature it speaketh nothing of faith in Christ which is Absolutely requisite to Justification and Salvation for without it it is impossible to please God Heb. 11 6. and by it we are united unto Christ the only Mediator for there is not another name given to men under heaven by which they can be saved but by the Name Iesus Act. 4 12. and it is life eternal to know God and Him whom He hath sent Iesus Christ Ioh. 17 3. But should we expatiat here in the confutation of this grosse Pelagianisme we should transcribe the whole Gospel ● Christ in saints the hope of glory is not brought about by Nature nor by the Works of the Law but by the Gospel and faith in it for this is the riches of the glory of this mystery whereof Paul was a minister according to the dispensation of God and which had been hid from ages and from generations Col. 1 25 26 27. and wherein Paul laboured striveing according to his working which wrought in him mightily vers 29. Nay before they were reconciled in the body of Christs flesh through death they were alienated and enemies in their minde by wicked works vers 21 22. and this was the peculiar priviledge of such as had received Christ Chap. 2.6 and were in him circumcised with the circumcision made without hands in putting off the body of the sinnes of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ were buryed with him and risen with him in baptisme through the faith of the operation of God and were quickened together with him vers 11.12.13 5. If this be all the Christ which they preach and declare their Christ and theame is but the dim and dark Light of Nature or the Corrupt Nature of Man which is enmi●y to God and to the Gospel And so they are Heathenis● Preachers no Gospel Ministers they are Nature Teachers and Admirers and Gospel Subverters Therefore all that love their own souls should keep far from their tents and look upon them as the most desperat Enemies to the Gospel of the Grace of God that ever Satan sent abroad in the world to destroy souls 6. The Christ whom the Gospel commands us to beleeve in and obey is Christ the Son of God God man our Immanuel the promised Messiah the Fellow of God against whom the Sword of Justice did awake the Servant of God who was Incarnat God made manifest in the flesh who grew up as a tender plant as a root out of a dry ground was despised and rejected of men a man of sorrowes
effect through man 's not resisting when he might resist if he pleased so that of two having the same measure of sufficient grace then which no more is requisite on God's part for effectuating the work the one beleeveth because he doth put no bar in the way the other beleeveth not because he resisteth and doth put a bar in the way 4. Hence it is manifest why this answer of the Quaker who taketh part with Iesuites and Arminians cannot satisfie to wit because all the actual efficacy of grace is made to depend on mans will for as we saw the same Sufficient Grace that is bestowed upon two Persons can of it self produce the actual conversion of neither but must leave both to their free liberty and choice and one beleeveth not properly and immediatly by the power and efficacy of this grace even suppose it were in a greater measure for then it should worke the same effect in both but because his will did freely of its own accord consent and yeeld when it might have done otherwise even in sensu composito as they speak and the other beleeveth not because he opposeth and resisteth when he might had he so thought good have yeelded If our Quaker should run to the foreseen congruity and contemperation of the call of God with Free will which Bellarmin and Vasques devise to alleviat the mater it will be of no advantage for first this Scientia Media by which they imagine God to foresee what will be in such and such cases is groundless and Next at the long run the crown is put upon Man not upon the Grace of God for this Grace tha● becometh congruous as coming in a good day when the man is in a good mood and pleasant disposition worketh no more as to it self then it did upon another whom it found not in so good a temper but worse disposed so that man may thank his good disposition that the grace of God was Congruous and so Effectual and not incongruous and so Ineffectual So that Effectual Grace Sufficient Grace is still the same Physically and as to its real entity and all the difference is from mans good or evil disposition whose evil disposition can make a Greater measure of grace Ineffectual and good disposition can make a Lesser measure Effectual if it come in its congruous season From whence we see it is clear as the sun that mans Free Will and not the Grace of God according to our Quakers is to be praised for Faith Repentance Conversion and mans free consent maketh that grace Effectual which otherwise would have been Ineffectual his Opposition or Resistance maketh that grace Ineffectual which otherwise might have been Effectual And thus their Sufficient grace is with them absolutely sufficient upon God's part and all its Efficacy and Effectualness dependeth upon and hath its being from mans free Consent Will this Quaker or any of his Masters the Molinists or Arminians say that beside that Sufficient Grace which is made common to all there is necessarily required a further work of Preveening Grace upon the will of man physically determining the same and certainly and efficaciously effectuating the actual consent thereof and removing or overcoming its Opposition or Resistance As for the Gratia Cooperans which they say he who beleeveth and complieth with the call hath and which the other who resisteth wanteth it doth not helpe them for it is also made to depend wholly upon mans Consent so that God cooperateth because the man consenteth and cooperateth not in the other because he resisteth and it is made the same upon the mater with Sufficient Preventing Grace only now having a new denomination because of its cooperating with mans will which goeth before and upon which it dependeth I know the Arminians say that God worketh upon the will granting to it a Supernatural Power to obey and yeeld but yet they will not grant that this grace shall determine the will and certainly and efficaciously bow and incline the will to consent for the will must still retaine its power to obey or not as it pleaseth and all the work of grace upon the will must remaine resistible and be nothing but Moral Swasion so that when Antecedent Preveening Grace hath done all it can do it may so fall out that no conversion shall follow so that conversion is still contingent and uncertain though not in respect of the foreknowledg of God yet in respect of its dependance upon that cause and doth not follow necessitate causae five consequentis because for all that grace man was alwayes free to resist and the grace Preventing I meane and Antecedent granted to him that resisteth was equal to that which was granted to him that yeeldeth And therefore with them there is no grace granted that Effectually or Efficaciously Certainly taketh away the wills resistance causeth it infallibly to bow and yeeld otherwise their Sufficient grace should not be simply and absolutly sufficient but only so far and in its own kinde And seing they deny any concession of more Prevening and Antecedent Grace then what is purely sufficient as all Papists must do who will follow the Councel of Trent Sess. 6. can 4. 5. It is undeniable that with them and our Quakers who follow them the Efficacy of Grace is from man and man must thank himself and his own Free Will that he is saved if not wholly because of cooperating grace which is yeelded to yet principally 5. So that though he who resisteth is clearly guilty of his own damnation yet that Grace which is only Sufficient cannot be truely and simply called that mans Salvation who resisteth not but his salvation must principally or rather only be ascribed to himself for that Sufficient grace did no more upon its part to him who resisteth not than it did to him who resisteth and it hath no more Influence or Efficacy as from it self upon the one than upon the other It cannot then be said that the Salvation of him that is saved is merely of grace and not of himself seing he and not grace made the difference and made Sufficient grace become Effectual 6. Nor is it true that Man is wholly passive with our Quakers for the mans actual consent is requisite and his non-resistance is rather an Action than a Passion as it is in the will for not only the will must positively will this non-resistance but this non-resistance in the will is a positive yeelding for in Scripture construction a suspension of actual consent is a resistance and a non-yeelding 7. Hence we see that it is all one thing whether the first progress as he speaketh be by cooperating or only by not counterworking for whatever way we name it the will is positively acting when the will yeeldeth it doth it willingly and when it doth not repugne nor resist it yeeldeth non-resistance is a kinde of consenting But whatever we call it it is according to the Quakers with
●ewes Whileas it is much more probable that he lived before the children of Israel were brought out of Aegypt and that for this one reason That in all this book where so much is spoken by Iob and by his friends of God's power and faithfulness there is not one word of God's delivering his people out of the furnace of Egypt which would not have been omitted it being so apposite to what is there oftentimes handled if so be it had been done before this time His questions then may easily be answered without that inward common grace which he dreameth of to wit that God taught Iob as he did other holy men before the giving of the Law and that without Scripture which was not then written His supposing thereafter Pag. 116. that Iob speaketh of this light Chap. 24 13. is another of his fond imaginations What he saith next of Iob's friends receiveth the same answere that we gave to what he said of Iob seing the ground of the mistake is the same in both and requireth no new consideration 10. Then he tels us how Paul Rom. 2. saith that the Gentiles did those things which are contained in the Law and hence inferreth that they feared God and wrought righteousness Ans. 1. That the Gentiles were not without all knowledge of what was just and unjust honest and dishonest is most certain for so much was remaining ingraven in their hearts that could not be delete and this was evidenced by their commanding and forbidding by their Laws somethings commanded and forbidden by the Law of God as appeareth by their Laws against Theft Adultery Manslaughter and the like which yet was not universal It is in the original only thus they do by nature the things of the Law And as Beza well observeth this differeth from doing what the Law commandeth being a doing of what the Law doth that is commanding or prohibiting what the Law commandeth or prohibiteth And therefore is it added these having not a Law are a Law unto themselves 2. Hence it appeareth that it will not follow that they therefore feared God and wrought righteousness for the same Apostle tels us Chap. 1 21. that when they knew God they glorified him not as God neither were thankful but became vaine in their imaginations and their foolish heart was darkened Is this to fear God and work righteousness And though hereby the Apostle evinceth the Gentiles to be without excuse Yet he tels us Chap. 3 9. that he hath proved both Iewes and Gentiles that they are all under sin And will this Quaker contradict the Apostle and say it is not true that the Gentiles are under sin though the Apostle hath charged it home upon them for they feared God and wrought righteousness This were indeed blasphemous boldness suiteing only a Quaker But he thinks that vers 13. confirmeth all where Paul saith the doers of the Law are justified As if Paul were speaking that of the Gentiles which is spoken of the Jewes who heard the Law which the Gentiles did not And as if Paul did hereby insinuat that any man Jew or Gentile could be justified as a doer of the Law that is by his owne obedience which is diametrically opposite to his whole disput and scope in this part of the Epistle and to his conclusion set down Chap. 3 28. Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the Law Vers. 20. Therefore by the deeds of the Law shall no flesh be justified in his sight What shall we think of this Quaker who thus maketh the Apostle contradict himself and inferreth out of the Apostles words perverted the contrary of what the Apostle himself who knew the force of his owne premises best concludeth And what boldness and blasphemy is comparable to this And withal he will be yet so bold as to tell us that nothing is more clear and that the Apostle vers 9 10.11 doth confirme this doctrine yea and Pag. 117. declare moreover that unless we suppose the Apostle to have spoken otherwayes then he thought we may saifly conclude that those Gentiles were justified and partakers of glory honour and peace and that by their owne works O what miserable miscreants must these men be that dar thus expose the Apostle yea the Spirit of God speaking in him and by him to open laughter as proving and concluding contradictories and that by the same medium and premises which is hardly supposable of a man in his wits and that knoweth what he saith His repetitions Pag. 117. I wave they being formerly confuted and repititions being jejune probations need not be againe examined He doubts whether we can prove that all the Patriarches and holy men before Moses had any distinct knowledge either of Adams fall or of the coming of the Messias for I see not what else he can understand by his vel hujus vel illius these being the only two things spoken of by him immediatly before and his following words confirme this And if he doubt whether we can prove it it is no great matter if he doubt not himself of the thing And if he do doubt of the thing Where is his charity to the Patriarchs and Saints What charity can this be which is so large to Heathens and so straitned to the Saints of God Can this be divine charity No it is a Pagans charity suting him who would have us all turn Pagans But seing the Scripture tels us that they all obtained a good report by faith which is the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things not seen Heb. 11 1 2. And that they all died in faith not having received the promises but having seen them afar off and were perswaded of them and embraced them vers 13. And Christ himself tels us that Abraham saw his day Ioh. 8 56. what needs us more proof These and the like passages satisfie us concerning their knowing as much as was then requisite in order to salvation And that the Gentiles who never heard of Christ know so much is that which he should prove and doth it not nor never shall 11. He tels us that the Iewes even after David's dayes who prophecied more largely of Christ than did others before could not out of all these prophecies discerne Christ when he came Act. 3 17. 1 Cor. 2 8. Yea Mary herself did not know that her Son was about his Fathers work when disputing with the Doctors and the Apostles that long conversed with him and saw his miracles did not beleeve what belonged to his death and resurrection Ans. Is not this a wonderful proofe that the holy Patriarchs had no saving knowledge of and faith in the Messias who was to come because the wicked Jewes did crucify him when he came Who would not simile at this But David had many clear prophecies of the Messias and yet they did not understand these And what then Ergo they were saved without the understanding of these prophecies
be justified from the imputation of anothers righteousness is both ridiculous and dangerous whence came that usual saying amongst many professours of Religion That God looks not upon them as they are in themselves but as they are in Christ. And Pag. 25 See Mr Hicks Pag. 51. c. Iustification 〈◊〉 not from the imputation of anothers Righteousness but from the actual performing and keeping of God's righteous statutes and Pag. 25 30. It is a great abomination to say God should condemne and punish his innocent Son that he having satisfi●d for our ●innes we might be justified by the imputation of his perfect Righteousness And againe I caution and warne men by no meanes to entertaine this principle of Christs dying to make satisfaction to divine Justice by whomsoever recommended And againe Pag. 26. He i. e. Christ fulfilled the Law only as our pattern or example And ib. Christ is so far from telling us of such a way of being justified as that he informes us the reason why he abode in his Fathers love was his obedience he is so far from telling us of being justified by vertue of his obedience imputed that unless we keep the commands and obey for our selves c. And P. 30. was not Abraham justified by ●orks we must not conceive as the dark imputation of this age that Abrahams personal offering was not a justifying righteousness Ib. p. 30. I do say Abraham had not the imputation of anothers righteousness to him his personal obedience was the ground of that just imputation And elsewhere Apol. p. 148. justification by the righteousness which Christ fulfilled for us in his own person wholly without us we boldly affirme to be a doctrine of Devils and an arm of the sea of corruption which doth now deluge the world This is su●ficiently plaine And Sand. found Pag. 30.31 I farther tell thee that Iustification by an imputed righteousness is both irrational irreligious ridiculous and dangero●s and Pag. 27.29.30 Iustification goes not before but is consequential to the mortifying of lusts and the sanctification of the soul. More might be added but here is I suppose enough to discover how these Quakers homologate in the point of Justification with Papists Socinians and Arminians in denying the imputation of Christ's Righteousness in Iustification and substituting another ground or formal reason thereof even works done by us And how dangerous an errour this is undermineing the very cardinal point of Christianity every true Christian may know The Quakers in this are one with their Predecessours the old Anabaptists too 4. We come now to our Quaker and must see how he expresseth himself in this matter In his Thesis he saith who receive the illumination of this light that is as we evinced above the dim light of nature it that must be the Light or the Natural Conscience becometh in them a holy pure and spiritual birth produceing piety righteousness purity and other excellent fruites most acceptable to God This sure is a wonderful metamorphosis But how cometh it that this light is so much beholden to man in whom it is that if he do not resist it but receive its illumination religiously it will become a glorious and mighty powerful thing but if he do resist it and receive not its illumination it remaineth what it was Is this the Christian New birth and Regeneration whereof the Scripture speaketh Is this to be borne of the Spirit There is no infusion of any gracious principle or habite of grace and virtue here for the seed of all was in the man from his mothers womb and his kinde nature in receiving the illumination of this connatural light blew the coale and it became a burning fire warming the soul into all Christian vertues Is this Gospel doctrine or rather is it not Pelagian-quakerisme What followeth upon this By this holy birth saith he to wit Christ Iesus formed within a goodly title but it is but the Quakers Jesus that is blake Nature or the product of Corrupt nature produceing his works in us these sure are nothing but works of darkness as we are sanctified so are we justified in the sight of God Then Iustification and Sanctification ●tand upon one and the same ground and if there be any difference betwixt them Iustification must follow Sanctification Thus it is manifest how he homologateth with other Quakers and how they all agree with Papists in the doctrine of Iustification He addeth and one may wonder at the mans confidence and boldness according to the Apostles words but ye are washed but ye are sanctified in the name of the Lord Iesus and by the Spirit of our God But if either his sanctification or Iustification as now explained to us be either in the name of the Lord Iesus or by the Spirit of God I am far deceived Nay it is manifest that they are rather by the Power and Authority Vertue and Efficacy of Free will and the Natural Spirit of man receiving kindly the Illumination of that natural Light in every man and so transforming that natural thing to produce such works as by which the man is both Sanctified and justified Though this be the native sense and import of his words yet marke his effrontedness Therefore sayes he it is not done by our works produced by our will nor yet by good works considered by themselves What a shameless man is this to deny these works to be mans owne works which flow from a principle borne and brought into the world with him and not only so but actuated and transformed into a new pure and spiritual spring by the sole will of the man not resisting its light but receiving the same If these be not properly the mans owne works it is a great question if man have any works that can be called his owne But let it be so that they goe under the name of works done by a new infused principle and yet the Quakers are more Pelagian then the Iesuites and all the Papists for these acknowledge infused habites which Quakers know nothing of yet they may be called mans works and works produced by mans will to wit now regenerated and principled of new otherwise they are produced in man and mans will hath no elicite or imperat acts thereanent This is indeed Phanaticisme in folio But how can men be Sanctified or Iustified according to the Quakers by that which is none of theirs nor wrought by them Againe he must know that the Scripture excludeth all these holy works even produced by that new principle from being the ground or formal reason or ratio formalis objectiva of our Iustification as all our Divines shew writting against the Papists on this head And in this he giveth further evidence of his conspireing with Papists against the truth Finally I wish he had explained that to us nor by good works considered in themselves for it importeth that good works considered some other way possibly in conjunction with some other thing and what that
is I know not are the ground of our Iustification But seing Iustification and Sanctification stand upon the same ground with him he must also say that we are not Sanctified by good works considered by themselves and if good works or works of Sanctification and holiness considered as such will not ground the denomination of Sanctification I would faine know what will 5. But if they neither be Sanctified nor Iustified by these good works by what are they Sanctified or Iustified It is by Christ saith he who is the gift and the giver and the cause produceing the effects in us But this Christ is nothing else but a Creature produced in man by mans industry and goodwill not stubbornly resisting but piously receiving the illumination of the light and that out of this light which is in every Son of Adam for he told us that this Light when thus religiously entertained becometh a holy pure and spiritual birth and this is the Christ formed in us who is the gift and the giver and producer of all the fruits of holiness which are acceptable unto God Are we not then Iustified by our works when Iustified by this Christ or Principle produceing these works in us especially seing this Christ is a Christ formed within and not that Christ who laid downe his life a ransome for sinners and offered up himself a sacrifice to divine justice to satisfie justice and the Law by his Obedience and Death for the Redemption of his people We heard lately that this Christ and his Blood is far off in their account and cannot cleanse or do us any good But further I think that even in this Quakers are far worse then Papists for when Papists will have us Iustified by works they speak of works wrought in the soul by the Spirit real works of grace flowing from an inward principle of grace but our Quakers though they give goodly words yet really their works by which they are Sanctified and Iustified are but works wrought at best by the Power of Nature For that Light within every man as was shewed above is but pure Nature and whatever is borne of or proceedeth from this seed is but Nature for that which is borne of the flesh it flesh Ioh. 3 6. And from nothing that is in man by nature or in all men can that which is heavenly and spiritual spring unless we turne Pelagians this is to be held And that Light within them if its eyes were not blinded with prejudice though it be not sanctified nor of the Spirit might even cau●e them understand so much And when all the Efficient cause that we hear of from him produceing this pure and spiritual birth or educeing it out of its matter or causing its change and being some other thing than it was is only man and man doing nothing but receiving the illumination of this light can we suppose this to be any thing else than a pure product of nature which Heathens and Pagans Turks and Tartars who never heard one word of Christ may be partakers of And can this Sanctification and Justification be that mentioned in the Scriptures when it is common to infidels who are without God and without Christ in the world if they will but obey the light of nature Is this which he talketh of to be borne of God No certainly but rather it is to be borne of bloud or of the will of the flesh or of the will of man but so are not any borne that receive Christ and beleeve in his name Ioh. 1 12 13. One thing more Seing this Light which the Quakers say is in every man is in Devils and that in a greater measure than in man may it not also be said of them that if they will receive this light and not resist it it shall become an holy pure and spiritual Birth and Christ formed within And shall not they likewise upon this account be capable of this Sanctification and Justification I must still put Sanctification first that I may speak according to the Quakers Language and shall we have no other Sanctification and Justification preached to us by Quakers than what Devils are capable of and have the real feed of already O poor deluded wreatches Is this the top of all their endeavours and the upshot of all their hopes Sall we get nothing at most but a Paganish Iustification and Sanctification 6. He closeth his Thesis thus who i. e. Christ when he reconciled us while enemies according to his wisdome doth save and justifie us this way as the Apostle saith else where He hath according to his mercy saved us by he lawer of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost Ans. But what way did he reconcile us while enemies was it by his bloud and by his crosse Ephes. 2 16. Or by the bloud of his crosse or in the body of his flesh through death Col. 1 20 22. Or was it by his death Rom. 5 10. If so then sure he died for the ungodly Rom 5 6. And for sinners vers 8. that they might be reconciled to God by his death vers 10. And then the grace of God and the gift by grace must abound unto them vers 15. and that unto justification vers 16 18. Then sure Christ died in their roome and place as their Cautioner and Surety and as their Surety made satisfaction to justice that they should be redeemed and delivered from Law Justice and Wrath for what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh God sending his owne son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin condemned sin in the flesh That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us Rom. 8 3 4. And if so as the Scriptures do richly witness then that mediatory Righteousness of Christ the Redeemer and Cautioner must legally be made over unto them to the end that they may be legally acquit and freed from the Accusation and Condemnation of the Law And by vertue of that Righteousness of Christ the Cautioner imputed unto them by God they as cloathed therewith by faith and appearing therein must be Iustified before God and not by any thing wrought in them at what hand so ever And thus all that he hath said in his Th●sis is overturned 2. It is true that the Lord in wisdom hath ordered things aright and appointed the way how we should be partaker of the benefites which he hath purchased and particularly of Iustification and Sanctification But that the wisdom of God hath appointed that we should be Iustified by any thing done by us whether from a principle of Nature or of Grace wrought in us even by the Spirit of God as the formal objective reason or that upon the account of which we can be accounted Righteous and Absolved from Accusation and have our inquities pardoned is not revealed to us in all his word but the contrare rather as hath been seen 3. Nor doth these words of Paul to Titus Chap.
the righteousness of Christ given and imputed to us because insert in Christ and we put him on The question is unto which of these we ought to lean and account our selves justified before God And I saith he wholly think that it is piously and christianly said that we ought t● leane to I say lean to as to a firme thing which may uphold us the righteousness of Christ gifted to us and not to grace and holiness inherent So also Pighius de fide Iustificatione may shame this Quaker 15. In the fourth place Pag. 128. For clearing of his meaning he tels us that by this Iustification they do not understand simply good works nay not as done by the holy Spirit But did ever man in his wits understand it so The question is whether good works be the formal cause or the formal objective reason of Justification And this he granted above and asserted with the worst of Papists But he saith with protestants that these are rather the effects of Iustification then the cause This is better said but way then said he lately that by the Second Redemption whereby we are Purified Liberated and Redeemed from t●e power of corruption we become justified formally or that that second Redemption was the formal cause of our justification And what will he now have to be the formal cause of our justification Christ formed within us this inward birth produceing righteousness and holiness in us with which the Father is well pleased Ans. But this is only an inward Principle of grace and the sanctification which is defined in the Larger Catechisme as we saw above and by this himself afterward tels us we are parkers of the divine nature and this as Contarenus said with truth belongeth to an Inherent Righteousness and so still he holds with the Tridentine Papists who will have us justified by a Righteousness inherent in us and that in opposition to a Righteousness imputed And when afterward he saith that Bellarmine and others disput against this and other Papists understood it not he should have named the place 2. That God is well pleased with this will say nothing for he is well pleased also with good works that flow from this Principle betwixt which two this Quaker would distinguish in this question He addeth This is to possess whole Christ who is the Lord our righteousness Ier 23 6. and to put on Christ. Ans. Yet this is not to put on the righteousness of Christ in Justification and to be cloathed with his Righteousness in appearing before Justice This is not to make the Lord our righteousness as Ier. 23 6. nor to say with Paul Phil 3 9. and be found in him not having min● own righteousness which is of the law but that which is through the faith of Christ the righteousness which is of God by faith Further he sayes hereby we are made one with him as branches into the vine and we have right to all things which he did and suffered for us so that his obedience righteousness and death is ours Ans. All this is true by faith uniteing us to Christ. But we are not so properly by Christ formed within us for this is a consequent of and in nature though not in time posteriour to our union to Christ by Faith which is brought about in effectual calling and as a consequent of this union followeth also Justification the formal objective reason of which is not either this union or begun san●tification but the Righteousness of Christ or his Obedience and Suffering made over and imputed to the believer by God Seing in these matters he seemeth to be an utter stranger I would advise him to read our Larger Catechisme better if he think not himself too far advanced to turne a catechumene againe What followeth Pag. 128. is but a specimen of the Quakers Spirit in abusing of Scripture with their sensless allegorick glosses and hath no Interest in this queston and therefore I have nothing to do with it 16. He tels us next that though we be not justified for good works yet we are justified in them and they are necessary as causa sine qua non Ans. That good works are called for from Justified persons we acknowledge but what Interest they have in putting us into a state of Justification we see not His giving them an interest of a causa sine qua non contradicteth what he said before for he would have us Justified by Christ formed within and this is antecedent to good works as the tree is unto the fruit And he also said in the preceeding Pag that good works follow Justification as the effects thereof and how then they can come in as a causa sine qua non he must help us by his next to understand and cleare to us how the Effect can be the causa sine qua non of the Cause But this man must have liberty to contradict himself He must also explaine to us what that is to be justified in good works That a man may be in a justified state while do●ng good works we understand very well but how otherwayes he can be justified in good works I see not unlesse by Justification he mean not a justification as to state but a justification as to particular actions which is impertinent 17. In the last place he saith that if he and his fraternity held the same opinion about good works that Protestants hold they would easily confess that they were not only not nec●ssary but that they were noxious Though Protestants assert the necessity of good works in justified persons come to age they assert notwithstanding their noxiousness in Justification that is if they be considered as any part of that Righteousness upon consideration whereof the person is declared just Justified before God or as any part of the formal Objective reason of Justification or as others speak as any part of the formal cause of Justification But what is his ground for they affirme saith he that the best works of saints are corrupted and defiled It is true we say indeed that our best works are not perfect but have ad mixture of dross and of much imperfection but that is not all the cause why we deny such an interest to works in Justification as Papists and he plead for but this Interest we deny to works mainly because it would spoile Christ of the glory of our Justification and of being our Righteousness that is due to him and give man ground of boasting which by Gospel Justification is wholly excluded But do not Quakers say the same of good works we judge saith he the best works done by man intending conformity unto the Law in his owne strength natural power and proper will to be such that is polluted But protestants do not account these properly good works but only materially such as not flowing from a principle of grace and from the Spirit of sanctification What doth he say of these These are pure and
Renovation is but upon the minde and this Formation of Christ is but a Revelation in the minde But where is the work of grace upon the will This would say that the Papists opinion is more tolerable then this for they include graces seated in the will 5. Where doth the Scripture speak of Justification after this manner We are oft said to be justified by faith but never are we said to be justified by such a Revelation 6. Therefore I may as confidently affirme that this his sensation is but a sensible delusion of Satan the grand enemy of the Grace of God and of the Gospel 34. Yet he goeth about to prove this and tels us first that this methode of salvation is set down by Paul Rom. 5 10. for saith he The Apostle doth signify that reconciliation is made by the death of Christ. Ans. This is true of that Reconciliation which is actual and is had by faith in the death of Christ but not of that Reconciliation which he imagineth whereby to wit God is prone to Receive and Redeem man What next He affirmeth Iustification that is Salvation to be in Christs life Ans. And what ground is there for this Interpretation seing the sense is obvious to wit that seing by the propitiatory death of Christ beleevers laying hold upon him by faith are brought into a state of Peace and Reconciliation with God they need not fear but they shall be brought thorow all difficulties and steps to the enjoyment of life eternal and full salvation Christ being now alive to bestow all that he hath purchased What more He saith That this life of Christ is something inward and spiritual in the heart whereby he is renewed and brought out of death where naturally he lay and raised up and revived unto God the same Apostle sheweth Ephes. 2 5. Ans. This is nothing but a palpable perversion of the words of the Apostle for the life can no more be understood here of some inward thing wrought in man than Christ's death can be so interpreted And if he had so expounded the words he had spoke more like himself above as also more like other Quakers who talk of Christs sufferings and death c. as all done within man 2. That the Apostle Ephes. 2 5. is speaking of beleevers being by grace quickened together with Christ and risen together with him c. is true But what saith this for the corrupt glosse of Rom. 5 10. where the life of Christ is only spoken of and that as it by which beleevers may be assured of their salvation 3. What is there in all this for Justification by the Revelation of Christ within reforming the minde c Hath the man forgote his Conclusion already Ay but sayes he the Apostle mentioneth a Revelation of this inward life 2 Cor. 4 10 11. and this inward life is that whereby he said we were justified Ans. The life of Christ is indeed said by Paul 2. Cor. 4 10 11. to be made manifest in and by its effects supporting carrying the persecuted Apostles through so many miseries and deaths But who except a Quaker could say that the Apostle sayes we are justified by this life And what vestige is there of this in the Apostles words 35. In the next place he citeth Tit. 3 5. And hence thus argueth we are justified by that by which we are saved Ans. Yes by the grace of God we are freely justified and saved and that without works of righteousness which we have done Here the Apostle sayes he moreover doth manifestly ascribe the immediat cause of Iustification unto the inward work of regeneration that is to Christ revealed in the soul by which we are formally accepted of God Ans. 1. What immediat cause is this That a soul must be wrought up to faith in Christ before it can be justified we grant and that this faith must be wrought by the operation of the Spirit is also true But that this faith or any other work of the Spirit in the soul is the Formal Objective Cause of Justification the Apostle saith neither here nor elsewhere 2. To say that we are formally accepted of God that is as fully righteous with a righteousness answering the Law in all points and satisfying justice for b●gones as he must meane or he speaketh not to the point by this work of Regeneration is but a jejune begging of what is yet in question sure there is no word of this here 36. In the third place he citeth 2 Cor. 13 5. And saith That it appeareth here how earnestly the Apostle would that they should know Christ in them Ans. The Apostle to the end that the Corinthians who at the instigation of false Teachers were beginning to have undervalueing thoughts of him might be convinced that he was an Apostle of Christ and so continue in esteeming of him as such doth here presse them to goe in to their owne hearts and see if there were any fruits and effects of Christ's living among them by his Spirit through his ministrie that if not they might not account themselves Christians but persons rejected And what would this say It appeareth hence 2. sayes he that the cause of reprobation or of non-justification was the want of the inhabitation of Christ revealed And by the rule of contraries where Christ is inwardly known and revealed there the persons are approven and justified And nothing can be more cleare Ans. 1. By what rule law or authority doth he make Reprobation and No-Jus●ification equipollent terms This must be licentiâ Quakerorum whereby they have a privilege contrare to Scripture and all Reason to coine words phrases and opinions in divinity at their pleasure 2. The want of the effects and evidences of Christ dwell●ng in them by his Spirit is not here given as the cause of their being in an evil state re●ected and disapproved of God but as a mark and evidence And marks and evidences are not alwayes taken from the Immediat Nearest and Formal cause 3. It is very true that by the rule of contraries where Christ is indeed revealed and working in the soul that soul is justified but it is most false that therefore Christ revealed in the soul is the Formal Cause or to speak more properly the Formal Objective Reason of Justification for himself said above that good works were properly the effects and fruits of ●ustification and yet he knoweth the fruits and effects may be an evidence of the cause in being 4. And so there is nothing more plaine and evident then that this citation is impertinent and his argueing therefrom a non sequitur and that he is still the old man a Quaker-disputant 37. As a parallel place he citeth Pag. 142 Gal. 4 19. And saith this Christ is the inward hope of glory Col. 1 27 28. And what is the hope of Glory must be that to which we nextly and immediatly lean unto in Iustification Answ. And how is this proven We must beleeve it
glory though we must alwayes lament our shortcoming and run to the bloud of Iesus that the defilement cleaving to our best works may be purged away Nor do we think that this hyperbolick expression of the penitent church will warrant any to ca●l all the work of the Spirit of God in his people sordide and filthy rags What is of God should be acknowledged good acceptable though the defilements that adhere to the best of God's works in us here because of our continueing corruption and because of the lustings of the flesh in us should be mourned over and keep us humble One thing I would further note here That if our Gospel-works be such why are we not Justified because of them as well as in them He further answereth pag. 149. § 12 That though it were granted that the best of men are imperfect Yet God can produce perfect works in them by his Spirit Ans. the qustion is not what God can do but what he doth God can make all his perfect Yet the supposition made saith he doth not so He hath thought it fit for his owne glory so to work in his Saints as they may have so long as they are here a body of death to wrestle with and occasion to pray dayly forgive us our sinnes and to run to the fountaine opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Ierusalem for sin and for uncleanness that they may be washen He proceedeth The Spirit of God is not capable of a blot and therefore all Christ's works wrought in his children are pure and perfect Ans. The Spirit it is true is not capable of pollution yet his works as received by us and as we are the formal actors of them are obnoxious to pollution And doth not the Scripture tell us that God first beginneth a good work in us and afterward perfecteth it Phil. 1 6. How can then all the works of Christ in us be perfect And if it were so his children here should be as holy as they will be in heaven for what is higher than perfection Thus we see this man will outstripe Bellarm. who confessed that our actual righteousness was imperfect because of the admixtion of venial faults and stood in need of dayly remission And will run the length of bold Vasques who thinketh that such have no need of remission in 1. 2. Disp. 204. c. 2. 3. He further argueth It would then follow that the miracles and works of the Apostles themselves as the conversion of the Gentiles gathering of Churches writting of Scripture and giving of themselves to the death for Christ were defiled with sin Ans. we must distinguish betwixt these works which were extraordinary I meane as to the manner of their performance and so peculiar to such extraordinary persons in which they were not in a manner formal actors but passive organs such as working of miracles and writting of Scripture in these the Apostles moved as they were immediatly Acted Inspired and Led of the Spirit so that these were not properly their formal acts And these which are of a more ordinary nature wherein they were more formal actors through the assistance of the Spirit whether in works belonging to their office as preaching and gathering of Churches or in works of Christianity as giving themselvs to the death and the like As to the first sort we may grant that they were undefiled as being pure acts of the Spirit wherein the Apostles were but organs used by the Spirit as he saw meet But as to others I see no absurdity to say that they needed to use that petition forgive us our sinnes The Apostle Paul had his infirmities and weakneses a body of death that made him cry out wo is me miserableman and was thereby made to do what he would not and hindered from doing what he would Rom. 7 The Apostle Iames saith in many things we offend all Iam. 3 2. and the Apostle Iohn saith 1 Ioh. 1 8. that if we say that we have no sin we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us 43. Thereafter he giveth unto works an instrumental part in Iustification which is true of faith laying hold on the righteousness of Christ the only Objective Formal cause of Justification but cannot agree to works But he citeth some Protestants assenting to this as Polanus Symphon c. 27. whose words if understood of after pardon that is of sinnes committed after Justification as they may containe nothing but truth and that truth which we question not acknowledging that even iustified persons before remission of after sins must repent confesse and mourne for their sinnes and act faith on Christ. Zanchius in the words he citeth is expresly speaking of salvation not of Justification and to this end he might cite all the Protestants that I know of Amesius is speaking of the same As for Mr Baxter I have told already that his notions about Justification are not acceptable to all As for what he addeth about the word merite I shall not contend only I would say that seing it sounds so ill because of the common and known abuse thereof by Papists the less we use it the better seing Verba valent usu 44. Nor shall I say much against his conclusion of this mater Only while he tels us that such may confidently appear before God who sensible of their owne unworthiness and of the unprofitableness of all their works and endeavours c. did apply themselves unto the light within and suffered that grace to work in them and thereby are renewed quickened and have Christ risen in them and working in them to will to do having thus put on Christ and being clothed with him and made partakers of his righteousness When I say he speaketh thus he but cheateth his Reader giving him faire words and no more for as we have formerly seen in the examination of his Principles This light is but a Pelagian Grace if not worse common to all men Scythian and Barbarian And by vertue of this light without the least help of the grace of God for of grace assisting far lesse regenerating such as are in nature and so beginning every good work there is not in his writings the least mention if the man will but yeeld and of power and full ability to do this he maketh no question he becometh regenerated begotten of God partaker of the divine nature and what not And this is this Mans Sanctification and foundation of Justification whereof Pagans and Barbarians who never did nor never shall hear of C●rist are as capable as such who live within the visible Church and that without any new grace communicated by that which is borne with them Let the Reader now Judge what a Regeneration and Sanctification can flow from this which is in every man and what Justification that can be which is founded hereupon And whether or not this be a sure bottom to stand upon and with confidence to rest upon
4 11. that pastors are given for the perfecting of the Saints c. till we all come unto the unity of faith c. Answ. 1. Hence we see the necessity of a standing Ministrie which yet he and is brethren are against as we shall heare 2. The Ministrie is to bring them on toward perfection and is for the edifying and building up of the body and of particular souls till we all come at length into the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God unto a perfect man unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ. How is it proved that this ultimat end is attained here And further we told above that there was a perfection comparative and in parts here attainable and attained according to the measure of grace of the gift given to every man Ephes. 4 7. 1 Cor. 12 11. But not a perfection of degrees which excludeth all increase and grouth contrare to 2 Pet. 3 18. Phil. 3 12 2 Thes. 1 3. not such a perfection as excludeth all sin He addeth Pag. 158. doth not the Apostle say that the Scriptures are given to make the man of God perfect 2 Tim. 3.17 Answ. Yes And they do that in their owne manner as a perfect and compleat Rule giving full instruction and information in all things necessary to salvation contrare to what himself taught above so that the the man of God neede●h to hearken to no Dreames Enthusiasms or Precepts of men to learne what is God's wi●l How doth our doctrine make Prayers useless Are not these prayers saith he useless and without faith that are made for preservation from sin if withall they beleeve that God will not give them what they ask Answ. So said Crellius the Socinian But the doctrine of Perfection seemeth rather to take away all use of such Prayer for who will pray for that which they have 2. If saints pray for a sinless state here they pray without warrand He that taught us to pray that we be not led into temptation taught us also to pray for forgiveness of sinnes But saith he what shall we say of the prayers of the Apostles Col. 4 12. 1 Thes. 3 13. 5 22 c. Did they pray so without faith Ans. This is another of Crellius arguments But we say The Prayers of the Apostles were not for a sinless state nor did they beleeve that the Saints here could be in such a state as to sinne no more Nay while they prayed thus for the saints they supposed that the saints had not yet attained to it Epaphras not the Apostle Paul is said Col. 4 12. to labour fervently in prayer that the Colossians might stand perfect and compleat in all the will of God that is might set the will of God only before them as their Rule and hang upon no man as to their Christian conduct but walk in sincerity as becometh Christians following the rule of Gods Law and might not be alwayes c●ildren tossed to and fro with every winde of doctrine and spoiled through Philosophy and vaine deceit after the tradition of men after the rudiments of the world and not after Christ as there was ground to feare as we see Chap. 2. Paul 1 Thes. 3 12 13. is clear against this imagined Perfection for he prayeth that God would make them to increase and abound in love so that th●re was yet some shortcoming to the end he might establish their hearts unblameable in holiness at the coming of our Lord Iesus Christ. So that he sheweth not what a measure of love and holiness they will attaine unto here but prayeth that it might alwayes be growing untill it attaine its full perfection at the coming of the Lord. The same is clear from 2 Thes. 5 23. Which maketh against this imagined perfection and speaketh only of a perfection of parts not of degrees 24. In the fift place he reasoneth thus Pag. 158. § 7. Our doctrine is repugnant to common sense and reason Why so for these two opposite principles in the children of darkness and in the children of light are sin and righteousness And as men are respectively fermented with the one or the other so are they to be called justified or reprobated seing he that justifieth the wicked and he that condemneth the just even they both are abomination to the Lord Prov. 17 15. Ans. This argument would prove as well that full perfection which he denieth to be common to all the Regenerat to be essential to the state of Christianity and therefore he must answere it as well as we But 2. That there are contrary principles in the godly and wicked is true and it is as true that there remaineth sin in the godly which floweth from a principle of corruption yet the Godly man is not fermented to speak in the dialect of the Quaker or rather to speak in the dialect of the Scriptures is not under the dominion of that principle nor given up thereunto as the wicked are with full will consent and pleasure without any reluctancy or lusting of a contrary principle 3. It is not saife to call all not yet justified reprobat 4. The Lord justifieth none upon the account of their Inherent Righteousness and indeed this mans opinion tendeth to a setting up of Justification by the works of the law or inherent righteousness for if man can abide in all things that are written in the Law he should be free of the curse Gal. 3 10. But this is contrary to the experience of the best of Saints Psal. 130 3. 143 2. Iob. 9 3. 4● 5. 1 Cor. 4 4. And the Law should not then be weak because of flesh contrare to Rom. 8.3 And contrare to that Iam. 2 10. He who trangresseth in one is guilty in all and contrary to these Scriptures Gal. 3 21 22. 2 21 3 10. further sayes he Then a man should be called just who sinneth in all his actions Ans. No man is calle● just before God in point of Justification becau●e of his Inherent Righteousness but because of the perfect righteousness of Christ imputed to him by God received by faith And as to sanctification such may be called just because of Integrity Sincerity Uprightness of heart because of Endeavouring after conformity to the Law in the strengh of the Lord upon which account the man is approven of God but not because he is sinless for then no man should goe under that denomination But sayes he the subject is donominated by the accident that adhereth Ans. Yet a wall is called white though the whiteness be not perfect but mixed And God giveth the denomination according to grace that is according to the better part though it sometimes should be the lesser part He asketh where are then the children of God and of light the sanctified and purified ones Ans. Even where these are who are groaning under a body of death and running daily to the
unnatural and anticque motions at their set times and solemnities which are here spoken of But I wonder whence this power of darkness cometh unto them to cause this inward battel and occasion this quaking we heard before that he said they were freed from the body of death and it was taken away so that they were made free from the Suggestions and Temptations of Satan and from actual sinning See his Eight Thesis and our Chap. XIV of Perfection or he must say that the immaculate birth he spoke of is not yet produced in them and consequently that they are not yet Justified nor Sanctified and so not yet Church-members according to his former doctrine But seing he will not acknowledge this But rather that they are the purest and only Church of Christ and are Justified and Sanctified yea and Perfected whence I say can this power of darkness come to oppose the workings of life and that when they are most devote turning-in unto themselves to waite upon God and upon the light and never but then when they are about this their solemne worshipe for we hear not much of their quakings at other times or is there alwayes a battel but they feel it not till they be about this Introversion And cometh this trembling alwayes upon their retireing inward or if not whence is it that it cometh more at one time that another Is it from the greatness of the opposition made by the power of darkness or from the greater sense thereof or both And whence doth the one or the other come more at one time than at another These things I would have cleared if he thought fit Againe is there no striveing betwixt light and darkness grace and corruption flesh and the Spirit in any beside them If not then all others must eitheir be all flesh or all Spirit and if this last these must be more perfect then they are If yea how cometh it that that combate in others causeth not such trembling and quaking as in them Is it because corruption in them is more violent then in others then their perfection is less Or is it because they are more sensible and their life is more quick their mindes more agitated and their spirits more stirred Yet I am sure there might be trembling and quaking of limbes and joynts more or less proportionably to the opposition or to the sense of it in others But the truth is whatever he feigne this trembling and quaking hath another cause and may confirme all rational men that their way is more of the Devil than of God let themselves think what they please 11. We have now heard of all the parts of their solemne Worshipe 1. Silence which is alwayes necessary and beginneth the action 2. speaking praying or singing as is immediatly suggested but this is not necessary for it may be wanting yet the whole solemne Worshipe be performed to edification neither is their speaking praying or singing such as is used in the Churches as we will hear afterward 3. Their Trembling Quaking though this it may be is not alwayes necessary yet it is peculiar unto them Let us hear how he explaineth or confirmeth these for it may be no other confutation will be necessary He saith § 9. p. 23. That their worshipe doth not consist in silence as silence Wherein then but in an holy and humble dependance of soul on God from which necessarily floweth silence in the first place Ans. Dependance on God is good and necessary and is a part of inward worshipe but we are here speaking of Outward and solemne worshipe and this silence must make a necessary part thereof for he sayes afterward we judge in the first place that there is a necessity of silence for some time both for speaker and hearer And he told us before that this silence may be continued all the time and not one word spoken and yet the worshipe be solemne and edifying and he saith the same immediatly thereafter Must not this be a fruitless and unedifying silence to others at least present But when he calleth it thus necessary there must be some thing more in it then we can at the first see or he will think fit to acquant us with as yet What more life saith he Pag. 232. might flow in every one and be increased so as words may also well be spoken by the influence of life and yet because it was imposed upon none necessarily they might all for the time rather choose to possesse God in quietness Ans. What this life is and what the flowings and increasings of it are we have seen But as to this Silence we say how cometh it that such in whom this life floweth do not speak Is not this a call sufficient how then dar they sit and disobey this call how dar they follow their owne choise Or is it no call that because a necessity was not imposed why then saith he that words might well be spoken by the influence of life Might words be spoken without an inward impulse and call no certainly according to his principles Where are we then 12. He goeth about to prove this their silence § 10. And for this end he tels us that to attend and waite upon God is a duty incumbent upon all and is a part of Worshipe And who denieth it Yet he citeth a number of Scriptures whereof none speak of such a waiting as he hath before pointed forth unto us accompanied with silence in the publick Worshipe of God for Ps. 27 14. speaketh of a waiting opposite to fainting through unbeleef or doubting to see the goodness and deliverance of God in the land of the living Psal. 37 7 34. speaketh of a waiting opposite to freting because of the prosperity of the wicked and a freting to do evil and so is a waiting for Gods pleading the oppressed mans cause is accompanied with a keeping of Gods way v. 34. not his waiting that layeth aside Gods way and Ordinances Prov. 20 22. speaketh of a waiting opposite to recompensing of evil Esai 30 18. is meant of a waiting for God●s coming with redemption to Zion Hos. 12 6. speaketh of a waiting accompanied with keeping mercy judgment which is more than doing nothing Zach. 3 8. speaketh nothing of waiting These are out of the Old T. whereby I see that O. T. Scriptures will prove N. T. worshipe Now follow passages out of the New Test. Mat 24 42. 25 13. 26 41. Mark 13 33 35 37. Luk. 21 36. 1 Cor. 16 13. 1 Thes. 5 6. 2 Tim. 4 5. 1 Pet. 4 7. which speak of Watching of and such a Watching as is accompanyed with Prayer and all Christian Duties Col. 4 2. speaketh of a watching in Prayer and not of a wai●ing that puteth away Prayer Act. 1 4. is a waiting at Ierusalem till the promise of the Father came Act. 20 31. is a watching over the flock that it mi●ht be keept from wolves The same line