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examine_v any_o part_n of_o it_o as_o it_o become_v man_n and_o scholar_n they_o shall_v either_o have_v a_o fair_a reply_n or_o a_o recantation_n finis_fw-la doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n etc._n etc._n p._n 10._o reflect_v p._n 4._o toid_v pag._n 2._o pag._n 3._o page_n 19_o the_o introduction_n page_n 5._o page_n 6._o page_n 7._o sidis_fw-la apostolic_a nomen_fw-la non_fw-la sâ—lum_fw-la summuon_n pontificem_fw-la significare_fw-la sed_fw-la ipsum_fw-la ut_fw-la facit_fw-la ea_fw-la que_fw-la ad_fw-la cathedram_fw-la spectant_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la quaâ—â—â—us_fw-la non_fw-la ex_fw-la svo_fw-la sed_fw-la ex_fw-la consilio_fw-la bonorum_fw-la virorum_fw-la &_o doctorum_fw-la procedit_fw-la iâ—a_fw-la sedis_fw-la apostolice_n juâ—â—icia_fw-la intelligi_fw-la non_fw-la que_fw-la occulte_fw-la malitiosâ—_n inconsultè_fw-la per_fw-la solum_fw-la romanum_fw-la episcopum_fw-la aut_fw-la etiam_fw-la cum_fw-la paâ—cis_fw-la sibi_fw-la faventibus_fw-la proferuntâ—r_n sed_fw-la quae_fw-la ab_fw-la â—o_o ex_fw-la consilio_fw-la plurimorum_fw-la virorum_fw-la sapientium_fw-la plâ—nè_fw-la prius_fw-la re_fw-la examinata_fw-la prodâ—unt_fw-la canus_n de_fw-fr auct_n council_n libr._n 5._o page_n 7._o page_n 8._o page_n 9_o de_fw-fr auct_n conc._n 1._o 5._o council_n to._n 13._o p._n 510._o lubb._n ib._n p._n 530._o vindicat._n of_o dr._n sherlock_n serm._n p._n 18._o bellarm._n de_fw-fr rom._n pontif._n 1._o 4._o c._n 5._o canus_n de_fw-fr auct_n council_n 1._o 5._o p._n 9_o p._n 10._o pag._n 15._o 16._o pag._n 60._o pag._n 62._o p._n 40._o p._n 55._o p._n 67._o p._n 91._o p._n 11._o p._n 35._o p._n 36._o p._n 11_o 12._o p._n 12._o page_n 17._o