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A06899 The market or fayre of vsurers A newe pasquillus or dialogue agaynst vsurye, howe and where it is forbidden, [and] what punyshement belongeth vnto it, [and] whether (for ye mayntenau[n]ce of the necessary trades of marchaundise) it maye be forborne, and ought to be punyshed or not, the chief articles wherof shall apeare vnto the reader in the next pagine. Newely translated out of the high Almaigne, by William Harrys.; Wucherer Messkram oder Jarmarckt. English. Harrys, William.; Allen, Edmund, 1519?-1559. 1550 (1550) STC 17330; ESTC S109830 43,640 182

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deuouryng vp the poore Tanquam escam panis as Dauid sayeth euen as a morsel of bread And what shall I saye of the couetous vsurers howe many are gnawen to the bones and eaten vp by them What make they of the returne of their money in one month But howe lawfully how godly how charitable this lytle treatyse and dyaloge translated out of the germanis tonge doth teache yf suche as are corrupt and infect with that kynde of couetousnes wyll be admonysshed they may receiue admonicion and instruction thereby If they wyll not their bloud be vpon their own heades they can not saye but they were taught and warned To be short God graunt that euery man may consyder the duty of Christen charite and practyse the some it was neuer more time it was neuer more nede If they wyll not let them be sure of this The oxe is layde at the rote of the tree the rod is redy made wherewith we shall be scourged If any man may be called back at least frō this vice of vsury by this lytle worck bothe the wryter and the translatour shall thinke their labours well bestowed and sufficiently recompensed God graūt they may so doo Amen ⁂ By Edmonde aellen Pasquillus vnto the vsurers DEre vsurers I chaunced a lyttel before the last fayre to mete with one of yours in especiall by the way with whom I had an vnaduised communication concerning your science And forasmuche as I trusted that it should be profitable to many if it myght come to your eares I thought it good to open it vnto you trustyng that ye wil take it in good woorth vntyll God send vs better Thus fare ye well in haste Pasquill What make shift do I fynde the here Vsurer A ha frende Pasquill where am I not founde Pasquill Go to thou wilt be founde one daye where thy frendes woulde thynke full lytell to haue founde the. Vsurer Why so I praye the where is that as thou thynkest Pasquill In the deuels chymeny or smokinge hole as I do coniecture I dare saye none otherwyse Vsurer Oh Pasquill God forbidde it I trust not that I haue deserued it Pasquill No thinkest thou so I warraunt the thou arte not lyke vnto hym that stōdeth behinde the dore Well take hede beleue me it wil be founde either in the dust or elles in the swipings But whither arte thou nowe bounde Vsurer Why doest thou aske knowest thou not that it is tyme to go to the fayre at Franckeforde Pasquill Ah wilt thou thether Oh howe manye good fellowes wilt thou there cut by the throte I thought the haruest had ben in already wilt thou nowe fyrst begynne to reape But I thinke thou reapest both winter and Sommer where thou sowest but lytell Thou shalt one daye as I sayde before be caried home to the deuell with thy frutes which thou hast reaped so longe Thinkest thou that thou canst not be forborne at Franckeforth Beleue me of a suertie there is many a good man at the fayre that would rather see an olde wolfe then the. Vsurer Why so Pasquill I hurte no man Pasquill Neither doest thou good to any man for naught Whiche thynge many a good man at Franckeforth shall fynde fulwell smally for their profyte What hast thou elles to do at Franckeforth Wilt thou sheare the shepe It is towarde winter Vsurer What shoulde I do there what do other men there I care my wares thither sell thē and go my wayes agayne Pasquill What wares cariest thou thither Vsurer I carrie thither gownes of marterns Pasquill What cariest thou thyther gownes of marterns The deuell taught the that occupacion I am sure thou geuest them good cheape But wo vnto those that are so oppressed by the reason of wynter that they haue nede of thy gonnes I would rather be a colde vntyll my tethe should clatter in my heade then I woulde take payne to couer my body wyth thy gownes I beleue that many in thy gownes are in suche perplexite that it were no marueyll though they shoulde defyle them bothe behynde and before But I praye the canst thou sell them well Thou comest nowe very late Vsurer Tush not a wit I come yet soone ynough Though I came thither but at the goynge out of the fayre yet shoulde I come tyme ynough For then haue I moste commonly the best market Pasquill Hast thou so I perceyue when the marchauntes are bounde homewardes agayne and feare the colde wether thē are thy gownes of marterns acceptable howe deare soeuer some do bye them Thou warnest many one with thy gownes in one winter that they are afterwardes a colde bothe winter and sommer I praye the why doest thou not also weare a good thicke warme gowne that thou nedest not to be couered so exceding warm when men wyll haue a droppe of thy sweate But what doest thou bye agayne whan thou hast taken money Vsurer Nothinge in especiall I bye certayne skynnes of marterns that I maye haue woorke against the next fayre And the ouerplus of the money whiche I haue then left do I lende vnto some good fellowe suffering hym to do his profite withall vntyll I come home and then do I receiue it againe Pasquill How doest thou suffre hym to do thy profite with it Vsurer I saye his profite and commoditie what profite can he do me with it Pasquill Oh God saue me from that profite and cōmoditie I praye God kepe thy gownes thy momey and thy lendinge out of ny trade For they should sone do me such profite and commoditie therin that there shoulde but littell remayne I knowe that profite and cōmoditie full well good fellowe tell me not of it I praye the. Vsurer I praye the good Pasquil Let this passe we will talke of other matters I perceyue right well where about thou goest Thou inuaiest against vsurye yet knowest not what vsurye meaneth I was abashed as soone as euer I sawe the for I thought wel ynough that thou wouldest not let me alone because thou art always ready to comptrolle euery mā Tell vs some newes I praye the. Pasquill Nay hearest thou thou art not yet rid of me Thou must at it first a litell better I holde the a grote I will tel the what vsurye is except thou wilt not vnderstande me Vsurer Alas good Pasquill I am nothing afrayde of the. I knowe as muche of that as thou canst tell me I wyll geue the worcke ynough if thou be so disposed But thou wylt vnderstande no reason wherfore I coulde rather be content to talke with the of other matters Pasquill Yea thou knowest so much of it that bothe God and man may lamēte it Thou knowest so many shiftes that a very subtill and large inhibition cōcerning vsurye must be made for the if thou shouldest not fynde the way to make a great frendshyppe of moste abhominable vsurye Vsurer Be content good Pasquill my knowledge shall neyther displease God nor yet man for I hurte no man with it Pasquill
Wherfore also those thynges that helpe to vpholde maintayne the trades of marchaundyse can not be forborne That the trade of marchaūdise can not be forborne is euident For euery husbandman can not runne thither where all thynges necessary growe and are made Neither is ther any lande that hath al thinges necessary for mā therfore must there nedes be some mē to carrye all maner of necessaryes from lande to lande and from one contrey to another As it is manifest in the lawes Therfore must it also followe that the thinge can not be forborne whiche helpeth too maintayne the trades of marchaundise Callistra●usin l●j ff de Nūdinis Ex pl●tonc Vide Dn. Budcum hic pulchre For lyke as I can not forbeare an house in wynter euen so can I not forbeare the thynge whiche sustayneth and kepeth vp the house from fallyng In lyke manner if the thynge be not or elles ceasseth whiche beareth and susteyneth the trades of marchaundise then must also the trades of marchaundyse fall and ceasse Pasquill Thou nedest not to make half so many wordes I knowe aforehande that whansoeuer thou affirmest any thynge hauing some fondacion thou sekest all vauntage that can bee sought That the trades of marchaundise can not be forborne this do I knowe very wel I knowe also on the other parte that dyuers trades of marchaundise might as well be forborne as some cannot be forborne Whereof I coulde shewe the sufficiēt proues but we wyll not nowe so farre digresse from oure purpose I knowe I saye precysely that the trades of marchaūdise can not be forborne I do also vnderstande and graūte that the thynge can not bee forborne whiche susteyneth and vpholdeth the necessarye trades of marchaundise But what wilt thou conclude of this Vsurer Soft I pray the thou shalt heare it well ynough I procede nowe sayenge What soeuer susteyneth and vpholdeth the necessarye trades of marchaūdise can not be forborne neither is it any sinne lendyng and borrowynge vpholdeth the necessary trades of marchaundise Therfore can not lendynge and borrowinge be forborne neither is it any synne Pasquill Concedo totum argumentū I graunte all the whole argument But see howe connyngly he goeth aboute the matter euen as the catte goeth about a mease of hoate potage Oh I perceiue so pretely wherabout thou goest If thou get muche by this I am sory for it But I praye the go to saye on let vs se what thou wilt make of it Vsurer What should I make of it I wil nowe procede further and conclude on this wise Lendynge and borrowinge may not be forborne neither is it any synne Wherefore also the occasion of lendynge and borrowynge and the thynge whiche vpholdeth lendyng and borrowyng may not be forborne neither is it any synne Pasquill Ha ha he this maketh me to laughe I praye the where hast thou learned this goodly maner that thou cōmest in so russhynge smothely ouer newe market heath For thou mightest haue comē nere to the matter a great deale But thou wilt saye a good foundacion for thy matter for the buylding is heauy and hath muche nede of it but digge not to depe or els thou shalt fynde water Oh what a sortee of dogges flyes hast thou about the although it be not about midsomer Whē didest thou euer heare me saye that lendyng and borrowinge is euill Luc. Vi. Deu xxV Matt. V. Ecclisia ▪ xxViii Is it not commanded in the holy scripture If so be that prayse vnto the lendinge and borrowyng howe shoulde I dispraise the cause of lending and borrowyng But on I praye the I wyl mete with the anone oute with it go to I wil tell the anone of that occasion Vsurer Well then will I procede saye for a conclusion The occasion of lending and borrowyng cā not be forborne neither is it any synne Vsury is occasion of lending and borrowinge Therfore can not vsurye be forborne neither is that also any synne Pasquill Ergo ideo igitur quare quamobrem propterca Here of followeth vsurye so mightely cleaueth so fast to lendinge and borrowinge that no Logician is able to moue the consequence neither is there any Alchimist so cōnynge nor any water so stronge that is able to seperate them What waye shal I now tourne me selfe There hast thou hit me in dede Vsurer Thou art full of pratynges and mockes but yet thou canst not leape ouer it Pasquill No in dede if a loode of haye stode in my waye I could not but I praye that who hath taught the that high logike wher hast thou studied it Where hast thou redde that vsurye is the occasion of lendinge and borrowynge specially of that lendynge and borrowynge which is magnified and praysed of the scripture I thought thou haddest vnderstanded me that I speake of lendinge and borrowynge whiche the scripture prayseth a Eccli 29. C. But I must tell it the playne There are two maner of lendynges and borrowings The one is that which is done of Christian charite mercifulnes frely without respecte of any rewarde The other is that whiche is done of couetousnes for gaynes and rewardes sake Whether of both these thinkest thou is praised of holy scripture Whether of both thinkest thou can not be forborne I am sure that lending borrowinge for nought of more loue and mercy D.C. 29 Eccli with out respect of any rewarde is praysed in the scripture And this maye not be forborne this also is not onely no synne but a Christian good worke which God will rewarde the occasiō whereof is the Christian loue not to be forborne nor dispraysed for she is a tree ful of many good frutes And here do I graunte the that this lending and borrowynge with his occasion maye not be forborne that it is no synne But where wilt thou become with the other lending borrowynge which procedeth of couetousnes for lucres sake Thinkest thou that this also maye not be forborne and that it is no synne Vsurer It is certayne that it maye not be forborne Seynge then that it can not be forborne it can not be synne nor yet hys occasion wherfore my conclusion must nedes stande sure Pasquill Well if thou canst proue me that suche lendynge whiche is done for lucres sake can not be forborne then must I byte in a foure apple and yelde me selfe to be almoste ouercome Vsurer That it cannot be forborne it is euident thou cōfessest thy self and it is also manifest that lendinge and borrowynge can not be forborne nowe thou makest two kyndes of lending and borrowynge wherewith I am content neither do I disprayse the same diuision But when the one ceasseth if so be that lendinge and borrowinge shall continue then must the other nedes succede Thou seest with thyne owne eyes that no man will lende for nought there muste nedes be lending and borrowynge what waye soeuer it come Therfore must nedes the other succede in the rowme of the firste and can in no
shoulde be forgotten and there should be an vpright and true dealynge in al trades of occupienge In dede it is a greate matter to speake of yea and I knowe right well that all marchauntes thynke it vnpossible but yet if they were so disposed hauynge a mynde to it and would helpe thereunto they should finde it otherwise This do I not speake because I woulde teache the hyer powers what they shoulde forbidde or because I thinke that lendynge and trusting may be altogether forborne But to shewe the my minde howe vsurye may be right wel forborne and that although it were sharpely forbydden the common welth shoulde not be onely not hyndered by it but also greately furthered Sicut ipse Imperator facitin L. I. § fin C. de cad tollen And although it were somewhat preiudiciall to certayne fatte Cobbes yet ought rather a respecte to bee hadde to the furtheraunce of the common welth then to the priuate welth of certayne priuate and synfull persons Sūma GOD forbiddeth vs nothinge that for the maintenaūce of a decent order and for the necessite of mutuall conuersacion lyuinge betwene man man can not be forborne But God hath forbidden vsurye Vt infra patebit Wherfore it is certayne and cleare that it maye well be forborne Also that the abolishing of it semeth to be suche a busy pece of worke is for lacke of a good will towardes the same for the faute of it is nowhere elles but in the will wherfore I saye that the obiectiō of the great occupiers and specially of the vsurers is nothynge worth whiche saye that vsury can not be abrogated though there be neuer so much cryeng and writinge against it because that for the maintenaūce of the trades of marchaundise it can not be forborne In dede they that be vsurers and such as haue a profite by it thinke that they can not forbeare it yea many of them I thynke would go nygh to hange them selues yf it should be forbiddē or rather more then forbidden but the common welth might forbeare it wel ynough for the necessary trades occupiēges shoulde kepe their course neuertheles as farrefurth as they are necessary and profitable for the common welth and can not be forborne Vsurer Of a truthe Pasquill thou art able to bringe a man in a doubte In dede it is true that the faulte is but in the will for elles it coulde not be so impossible to be done But to brynge men to this will is very harde to be done There are very many of this opinion yea and I my selfe haue bene of this iudgement that vsurye ought to be permitted and not to be abolyshed because of the trades of marchaundise But nowe verely I knowe not what I shoulde saye Truely I wyl loke better vpon the matter Pasquill Remember thy selfe and studye aboute it and thou shalt fynde that the faute is in the will onely and not in the possibilite as pertayninge to the marchauntes I knowe that not a fewe vnto whome this our communication shal come wil be very sore offended with al thinkinge that heauē would fall and the worlde peryshe yf vsurye shoulde be abolyshed taken away notwithstanding euery man is bounde to counsayle to saye and to do the best for the profite of the common welth But if there were any wyse man among them being perswaded and certified by hys learnynge that vsurye myght not be forborne for the mayntenaunce of occupieng for the profite of the common welth that woulde write against me Howe shoulde I do then But I do not greately feare it I trust to God that I shall gette neuer a white heare for it For they are asshamed of their occupacion neither wyll any of them lyghtely crye Cuckowe Vsurer No faith Pasquill thou nedest not to feare that matter neuertheles yf it should chaūce whiche God forbidde I doubte not but thou wouldest fynde an aunswere for hym But I will loke better vpon it my selfe and at this tyme we wyl procede and talke further of the matter that I spake of before I will graunte the that it were more Godly and Christenly done if one would lende to another for nought yea I permitte also the vsurye myght be forborne for a nede But thinkest thou I praye the that a man is so bounde to lende for nought that it should be sinne yf he did it not Maye not one vse his goodes for his most aduauntage Who will compell a man to lende awaye his goodes for nought whiche he myght occupie hym selfe Pasquill Thou puttest here thre maner of questiōs First whether a man be bounde to lende vnto his neighbour Secōdly whether it bee synne to take any thynge for it Thirdely whether a man maye not occupye his goodes to his moste aduauntage To the first wyll I answere the with Doctor Luther that the tēporall powers doth not compell the to lende awaye thyne owne wherfore also the tēporall powers doth not correcte the if thou do it not neither can they saye that thereby thou hast offended against thē But whether thou be bounde to it before God whether it be sinne before god nedest thou not to aske me for it is written Whosoeuer hath this worldes good i. Iohn iij. and seeth his brother haue nede shutteth vp his compassion from hym howe abydeth the loue of God in hym Is not loue commaunded in many places of holy scripture and also her workes Sayth not the scripture I. Ioh. iiij beloued yf God so loued vs that he gaue his onely begottē sonne for vs and sent hym into the worlde that we might lyue through hym we ought also to loue one another If we loue one another God dwelleth in vs. Ibidem Item this cōmaundement haue we of hym that he whiche loueth God shoulde loue his brother also Leuit. xix Item thou shalt loue thy neighboure as thy selfe Gal. V. Item se that ye loue one another with a pure harte feruently I. Pet. I. Item this is my commaundement that ye loue one another Iohn xV. Lo thou art bounde to loue thy neighbour as thy selfe arte thou not then bounde to helpe hym to counsaill hym and to profyte hym as thy selfe Yea yf thou must do to other as thou wouldest be done to if thou were in necessite Luc. VI. Mat. Vij and yf thou mightest be holpen with money and kneweth that thy neighbour had ynough wouldest thou not be glad that he woulde helpe and succour the Rom. xij Thynkes thou that loue is called the fulfilling of the lawe in vayne Wylt thou then be a Christian wilt thou walke in the lawe Wilt thou dwell in God And wilt not abyde and walke in loue Sayth not the lorde Christe I. Iohn iiij Mat. V. Deut. xV. tourne not awaye from hym that woulde borrowe of the Item When one of thy brethren amōg you is waxed pore se that thou harden not thyne harte nor shut to thyne hande from thy