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A30520 A discovery of some part of the war between the kingdom of the Lamb and the kingdom of Anti-Christ held forth in this account of several disputes and queries between a Minister of Christ (really so) and one that hath the name of a Minister, but is proved to be a Minister and member of Anti-Christ by evident testimonies : and is a short account of the covetousnesse, ignorance, envy, and the fruits of darkness brought forth by C. Fowler ... / by Edw. Burrough. Burrough, Edward, 1634-1662. 1659 (1659) Wing B5999A; ESTC R27139 22,780 34

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the place and nominated a certain day for the time and he had nigh a weeks notice from me and the time appointed I went to Reading to attend the Service but when I came there I understood that he would not meet me according to his own proposals and agreement but nominated another place and another time which was supposed by me and others to be but a present evading of the matter whereupon his denial to meet me at the time and place appointed by me this following Letter I sent unto him C. Fowler WHereas a Challenge of thine to us called Quakers for a Dispute upon ten Particulars was set up on the Steeple-house-door at Easthamstead and leaving it to us to appoint time and place I did appoint Reading for the place and the fourth day this week called Wednesday the 21. of this moneth for the time and in order to proceed upon the particulars in dispute with thee the place and time abovesaid I ordered my occasions so as to attend upon the Service the said time but I being come into the Town this night do perceive that thou art not content with the place and time though they were left to our appointing in thy Challenge but hast appointed another place and time upon some feeble Reasons which thou gives which I might shew the weakness of and might upon many better reasons say that Reading is the only place seasonable to dispute at for if thou be indeed a true Minister of Christ the people of this Town best deserves to know it by hearing it to be so and if thou art a Deceiver the people of this Town had the most need of any others to know it by hearing thee disproved So upon this place I have pitched and cannot now change my resolution nor alter neither time nor place by me before-mentioned my occasion will not admit me to it Therefore I thought good to write to thee to know for certain under thy hand whether you will give a meeting or not in this Town the fourth day next as aforesaid if not this matter must yet remain as it stands between us till a more clear opportunity for I cannot be at Okingham the day mentioned by thee because my service is already determined for that day and for some other reasons also in my own brest Let me have a plain answer from thee that I may dispose of my self as the Lord guides me for his service This is all for present I do desire who am a friend to all that love the Lord Reading the 19th of the 10th Moneth 1659. E. Burrough But to this Letter his Answer was he would not meet me at Reading for there was no need of Dispute there and therefore it is my present work at this time for to answer his ten Particulars in writing and to make them publike to all that all may judge of this matter And indeed but that for these ten particular Charges and that truth may be clear from those Charges in his ten Particulars I believe I had not thus proceeded in this publike manner but because he ceaseth not to speak evil of the Truth and yet will not come forth fairly to Tryal neither will answer me any Queries in publike but keeps a secret reviling and reproaching therefore do I thus proceed Answer to the first Position Thy Major and thy Minor are both lame and both false and thy so conclusion falls to the ground for the Quakers do not perniciously deny the Scriptures to be the Word of God but they in sincerity say that Christ is the Word of God Io. 1.1 Rev. 19.13 and the Scriptures are the Words of God and a Declaration and a Treatise and this testimony is according to the Scriptures Luke 1.1 Acts 1. And it is not Heresie nor Blasphemy to deny the Scriptures to wit the writings to be the Word of God but the truth written of and those things declared of in the Scriptures are the Word of God and not the writings which are Scriptures But this is further spoken to before and so I pass it Answer to the second Position Thy Major Position is utterly false and not grounded upon any part of the Scriptures so that the Minor and the Conclusion are both denied and cast out For a man may say that Christ is the Foundation of Faith and the Spirit of God is the Rule of Life for thus the Scriptures say And a man may lawfully deny the Scriptures to be the Foundation of Faith and Rule of Life and neither be Heretick nor Blasphemer Was the Apostle a Blasphemer and a Heretick who said No other Foundation could be laid but that which was laid already which was Christ And was he a Heretick and a Blasphemer that said the Sons of God were led by the Spirit of God and exhorted to walk by the Rule of the Spirit And are the Quakers Blasphemers and Hereticks who holds forth that truth the Apostles hold forth and who walks by the Spirit walks according and not contrary to the Scriptures O thou Perverter of the right way of God who hast falsly accused the Innocent in thy illiterate Logick Answer to the third Position In this thou hast falsly accused but yet let us consider thy words There was a Nature in that Man Jesus Christ that was born of the Virgin that was subject to cold heat thirst and hunger and subject to be tempted of the Devil and this Nature was not God whose Nature is Infinite Eternal Unmeasurable not subject to hunger nor thirst nor to heat and cold nor subject to temptations so that a man may say lawfully and be no Blasphemer That there was a Nature in him which was not God and yet the fulness of the Godhead dwelt in him to and he is the Everlasting Father and the Father is in him and he in the Father And thus by a sound interpretation of the Word God by Nature thy Major and Minor and Conclusion are all made void Answer to the fourth The good works of the Saints are wrought in God and by his Spirit and its God that works in them to will and to do and all such works are worthy works glorious works and blessed works even unto eternal life as the Scripture saith Glory Honor and Peace be to every man that worketh good Rom 2.7.10 And no man by Faith without works is justified for Faith without works is dead and a dead Faith doeth not justifie This is our Faith and the Faith which the Apostles were of and we are neither Hereticks nor Papists no more than were the Apostles and thus thy argument is vain and falls to the ground and hath no weight in it unto sober minds though self-righteousness is altogether abomination to the Lord and justifies not any man Answer to the fift A man may deny the sprinkling of Infants and the Administration of Bread and Wine as is held forth in your Assemblies and be neither Antichristian nor a Heretick for the Institution