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A43272 The lambs innocency defended, against lyes and slanders In answer to a second reply of a priest, who is called a minister at Lazonby in Cumberland called Simon Atkinson, who hath shewed his wolfish nature against those people called Quakers; ranking them up with the papists; falsly accusing them of those things which they utterly detest; but his weapons is turned against himselfe by one of the campe of the God of Israel, whose eye is opened in measure, ... working in the shadow of reformation translated into a fairer forme springing from the old corrupt root; and to see the bickerings of the night-armie running on heaps now in the dawning of the day; and the uncircumcised in Heart and Ears in flying from the light, and repoose of the same: and from the alarum of the spirits trumpet which is founded vvithin, for the cutting downe of the man of sin, and for the quenching of his motions. Written in defence of the truth as it is in Jesus, by a foole to the wisdom of this world, who, according to measure, hath tasted and obtained of the wisdome Helling, Joseph. 1658 (1658) Wing H1382; ESTC R216631 44,515 52

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whom our perfection is wrought even he which said Fashion not your solves like unto this world whose Doctrine we are willing to obey though reproached for the same and numb●ed with the papists as our head was with transgs ●ffours Isay 53.11.12 but what the Nuns and the Munkes abuse is nothing to us for we know that perfection doth not lye in selling out outward estates but in dying with Christ unto sin and in putting off of the old man with his deeds that the new man may be witnessed which is perfect Eph 4.24 cleaving onely to the perfect righteousnesse of God by the spirts of his Son in our hearts Gal 4.6 so we deny both you and all the rabble of your papistical Function who hath swallowed up the Popes Law which he vomited to guard his Jesultes with by which Law you cause the innocents to suffer as most of the Goales in this nation can witnesse so you are the unclean spirits which is spitten out of his mouth exeresing the power of his beastly Laws so you are his Image though more ●in●lier carved adn hath a more guilded covering so you are found to be more in the mistery Babell having your hearts exercised with covertous prctises whith is Idolatry Gal. 3.5 this is extant is England and else where amongst you priests the papists imitators as more largely may be proved by tour Churching of Women as you call it Mortuaries Funerall-Sermons and Marrying for money with much more Romish trash too tedious to mention Pr. 5 Ac. The Papists holds inherent righteousnes to be the matter of our justsfication and not the righteonsnes of Christ alone and doe not you also the same A. Here thou blind man accuseth us with the Papists and yet thou enquires Whether we doe the same or not thou art proved a blinde searcher as I said confusedly first accusing and then quaerying whether it be so or not I say if the Papists hold inherent righteousnes to be the matter of your justification as thou saith then we deny both you and the Papists herein for we hold not inherent righteousnes viz. th●● righteousnes which dependeth upon outward merits to be our justification alone although James hath said that man is justified by Works and not by Faith onely Jam. 2.24 but we are justified by the righteousnes of the Faith of the Son of God which Faith is justified or made perfect by works Jam. 2.22 So S. A. beware how thou searchest my packe another time least thou be found falsly and confusedly accusing as then arr now Pr. 6. Ac. The Papists doe place their Religion and Righteousnesse most in externals and things that have a shew of wisedomo in will-worship c. so doe the Quakersridgedly restratning as of obsolute necessity the use of Cuff● Points Lace Hathands and the like as if they might not at all be used or could not without sin or as if these were matters of greatest moment Ans Here thy blind and false conjuction is seen as all along is proved and thou art seen to be ignorant of us and our Religion for we deny that foundation which is external and we deny the Papists the head and you the tayle in the mystery of Babell and all your externall performances as they are held in the our sed nature and ground and all your principles in that ground And as for having a shew of wisdom in will worship c. this will turn home again to thee and your selves who sormally in your wills can preach and pray by your glasse or watch being not a shamed to lye in the conclusion of your work as thus you having rent a verse of Scripture in pleces Preaching so long as an houre lasts then you say much more might be spoken but time will not por●●●t when you have nothing else to does but to serve your bellies for the which service you leave the other be ginning in your own time and ending in your own time and none must aske you a question not speak in exhortation till your houres talk be ended contrary to 1 Cor. 14.30.31.32 and here your will worship is ●een as certain of your own P●ets 〈◊〉 Cr●s●s-men can testifie who by the grace of God is convinced of and turned from your witchcrast And as for ridgedly restr●●ning the uso of Cuffs c. as above that is false but we doe it willingly in obe ●ience to our God not in a voluntary humility neither to the satisfying of our st●sh and if thou were not shamesul●y hardened thou would not contemne us for the casting off of the superfluities of naughtinesse which l●mes exhorted to east off lames 1.21 see 1 Pet 3.3.1 Tim. 2.9 and thou that on encourages peoples in outward adorning is contraty to the Apostle 1 Pet. 3.3 and so help them to sow to the flesh and into whoredom and is of that generation which ealled the proad happy Mas. 3.15 and one with the Papists with your C●ff Points Ribbous and ●uch like arregant trash desired by your ambitious wills for the outward adorning of your dust and ashes in which you Parish Masters is patternes nothing different from the Papists in the ground take notice of that Reader if thou have an Eare. Pr. 7. Ac. The Papists say that we are no true M●●●sters of Christ but decesvers and teacheth the Devination of our own brai●es and so doe you with much more Ans The papists we deny with all their blood-thirsty crew and also we deny all the persecuting generation of pr●efts in England else where to be the ministers of the power of God which is the Gospel and we have found you to be one in the ground with the papists though more painted in the mistery not divine though deviners and what we say we are ready to prove against both the papists and you having not onely found you out in the mistery but also in open rebellion against the Doctrine of Christ the end of his comming and against the vertue of his offering as is proved Pr. 8. Ac. The Papists say our Churches are no true Churches bus they own to for their Pastors and Teachers and so say the Quakers A. Here thou art trapped in thy own snare both in Popery and confusion for thou said before that the papists said You were not true Min●sters of Christ but deceivers and now thou saith that they own you for their pastors and teachers here is confusion that the papists should first call you decesvers and now according to thy own confession calls you and own you to be their pastors and teachers and ●o may they well for they pay you wages so here you pri●sis are found papists pastors and teachers although thou hast gon about hither●● to cleare thy selfe and priest-hood papistry yet in thy ●●se conju●●i ●n and blind search the sire of thy pride envy and anger hath b●o●en f●rth in a flame to discover thee for thou art owned of them with thy Faction to be their pastore
innocent with whom thou can have no fellowship neither doe we desire it in that nature And whereas thou calls us Selfe condemned persons here thou contradicts thine own accusation who ranks us up with the Papists in selfe-justification and now again calls us selfe-condemned persons I pitty thy sad condition unstable soule thou art a wandring star to whom the mist of darknesse is reserved for ever except thou repent And as for honouring our papers any more c. I say thou hast vilified them hitherto with lyes and slanders and so is found contemning and not honouring them And now whether thou will receive us to thy house or bid us God speed yet know thou that we are not ashamed of the Doctrine of Christ And we charge thee to prove wherein we are out of it and what the evill deeds is which thou accuseth us of and wherein we are Hereticks these things remains for thee to prove without false accusations so as I said before so say I now search our packe and spare us not but give us righteous judgement and marke well least thou be mistaken for thou S. A. hath not had thine eye in the head when thou searched my packe whereof thou did boast so blind-man-like thou hast run thy selfe into error And now to conclude against it in plainesse and love to thy soule and for the feed sake in thee I exhort thee and warne thee being thy fellow-creature and a lover of the Creation of God that thou take head to thy soule least thou lose it and consider thine estate seriously and be not puffed up by fleshly wis●dome and because thou canst speake faire things but take heed to the light which manites●eth all things Eph. 5.13 which light will let thee see the root ground and end of thy Ministry and decen●ble not with that of God in thee which me will answer and testifie with me that you all rebelliously walke contrary either to the Rule of Scripture or a New Creature and also that you Speake and Write contemtuously contrary to your owne knowledge so man I exhort thee as one called in measure from the Net and from the Ship if thou wilt receive it to b●ware betime and come out of that wicked and adulterous generation wherein thou lyes in the shaddow of reformation masked by the mist of the whores wisdome For know this That the fitteth upon multitudes Nations Tongues and Peoples Rev. 17.15 not upon one Nation nor one Tongue nor one People but upon Peoples marke c. but now is the Lord bringing People from the Multitudes and Heaps of Teaching without and from the mistery of Babylon the great which is drunke with the blood or lise Rev. 17.11 of the Saints which is recorded in the Scriptures I say he is bringing People from that ayrie drunken wisedom without to the mistery which hath been bid viz. Christ within Col. 1.27 and those that doubteth of Christ speaking in man is such as sought a proose of Christ speaking in Paul 2 Cor. 13.3 and now what shall I more say for it would till a Volume to record all that might be spoken in defence of our innocency concerning those things whereof thou accouseth us from which we are cleare God is our witnesse in whose presence we are naked who knows that I lye not so the Lord weigh thee in a more equall ballance then thou hast weighed us and we pray that these things be not layd to thy charge So with my tender love to the seed of God in all I rest reserring this Dialogue to the honest hearted and by the seed of righteousnesse in all to be judged And now this w● testifie unto you all That after the way that ye eal Herefie worship we the God of our Fathers bel●eving all things as they are which is Recorded in the Scriptures and is willing to give a reason of the hope that is in us and this is out hope Christ in us the hope Col. 1.27 which hope maketh not ashamed Rom. 5.5 and this Christ this light and hope within gives us the Knowledge of the Glory of God 2 Cor. 4.6 for none knows the Father but by the revelation of the Sonne which is light Mat. 11.27 for that which may be knowne of God is manifest in man Rom. 1.9 and whatsoever makes manifest is light Eph. 5.13 and he that hath revealed and made manifest the Father hath given us an understanding of the dversities of the opperation of God which worketh all in all mark all in all 1 Cor. 12.6 as saith the Apostle Eph. 2.13 its God that worketh in you both to will and to doe So this we testifie unto all people That the living God is our God who by the Word the World did make which Word became Flesh who is the expresse Image of his Fathers Person Heb. 1.3 in whom dwelleth the fulnesse of the God-head bodily Col 2.9 and this is the Word which sactifieth Iohn 17.17 the Word of Faith which is nigh in the mouth and heart Rom. to 8 by whose blood or life he hath purged and is purging our Consciences from dead works to serve the living God in his spirituall worship and in his owne Kingdome which consists not in words but in power 1 Cor. 4. 20. and in righteousnesse Rom. 14.17 and is not to be found without but within Luke 17.21 in which Kingdome which consists in power and righteousnesse is the deversities of the operation of Gods work known both of election redemption and sanctification wrought by him which worketh all in all He is the Author of our Faith which Faith purifies our hearts which Faith is perfected by works Iames 1.22 viz. the workes of righteousnesse wrought in our hearts by the spirit of God and brought forth by obedience to the motions of his power so that with our hearts we beleeve unto righteousnes with our mouths confession is made unto salvation the new covenant being known which is not like unto the old under which Covenant we are in the substance of all Figures in the better hope which maketh perfect Heb. 7.19 which hope we hold as an Anker of our sonles staying our wills and desires subjecting all as he is obeyed And this is our Faith and Hope in which we stand by which we know the teachings of Gods spirit which leads in to the life of righteousnesse purging our Consciences from all uncleanesse as we obay the Counsell of his Will by which Will we are sanctified Heb. 10.10 and now we rejoyce in hope Giving thanks unto the Father which hath made us meet to be partakers of the Inheritance of the Saints in light who h●… deliuered us from the power of darknesse and hath trai●… us into the Kingdome of his deare Sonne in whom we have ●…demption through his blood merits and righteousnesse ev●… the forgivenesse of sinnes upon whom we lay hold by a lively Faith the mistery of which is held in a pure Conscience 1 Ti●… 3.9 Therefore all People examine your selves betime wheth●… you be in the Faith or not for all your profession which is 〈◊〉 held in the purifying Faith will vanish from you and leave you naked in the day of the Lords vengeance So take heed betim●… what you kicke against and minde the pricke of that of God 〈◊〉 your Consciences in secret which will let you see where you mindes are and what is the treasure of your Hearts this is 〈◊〉 Teacher that cannot be removed to a corner Isay 30.20 〈◊〉 whose presence you cannot fly to hide your se●…ve in 〈◊〉 Profession therefore turne to the Teachings of Gods Sp●… that his Law which he hath Written in your hearts may be Light unto your Feet and a Lantherne to your Pathes that y●… Bread may be sure and your Water may never fayle that 〈◊〉 in your own Lamps you may witnesse without which you 〈◊〉 not enter into the Bridegroomes Chamber So remember ye●… are Warned By One who-hath Learned of the Grace 〈◊〉 God to deny all Hirelings and wolfe-fish She●…herds and hath found him whom my Soule love●… which leads into his spirituall worship there 〈◊〉 rest willingly to suffer the tryalls of our F●… before all the Sonnes of Men. IOSEPH HELLING THE END