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A54126 The counterfeit Christian detected; and the real Quaker justified Of God and Scripture, reason & antiquity. against the vile forgeries, gross perversions, black slanders, plain contradictions & scurrilous language of T. Hicks an Anabaptist preacher, in his third dialogue between a Christian and a Quaker, call'd, The Quaker condemned, &c. By way of an appeal to all sober people, especially those called Anabaptists in and about the City of London. By a lover of truth and peace W. P. Penn, William, 1644-1718. 1674 (1674) Wing P1271; ESTC R220484 73,223 125

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bear_n witness_v for_o murder_n be_v all_o this_o leave_v out_o to_o evince_v that_o the_o fiction_n i_o charge_v upon_o thou_o be_v real_a truth_n &_o no_o fiction_n &_o that_o a_o quaker_n be_v quite_o another_o thing_n then_o a_o christian_a because_o it_o be_v his_o honour_n to_o be_v quite_o another_o thing_n than_o such_o a_o christian_a as_o thou_o be_v that_o be_v a_o very_a counterfeit_n reader_n do_v not_o thy_o soul_n rise_v against_o these_o abominable_a practice_n falseness_n be_v ever_o hateful_a to_o truth_n and_o baseness_n to_o a_o honest_a mind_n which_o t._n h._n be_v prove_v thus_o guilty_a of_o i_o must_v conclude_v he_o quite_o another_o thing_n than_o a_o christian_a thus_o have_v i_o finish_v my_o observation_n on_o his_o perversion_n leave_v they_o also_o with_o the_o people_n call_v anabaptist_n upon_o who_o i_o can_v choose_v but_o frequent_o call_v for_o justice_n against_o this_o their_o unjust_a member_n conclude_v my_o complaint_n in_o this_o section_n in_o honest_a john_n husse_n against_o the_o like_a adversary_n on_o the_o same_o occasion_n some_o of_o these_o proposition_n i_o do_v write_v and_o publish_v other_o some_o my_o enemy_n do_v feign_v now_o add_v then_o diminish_v and_o take_v away_o now_o false_o ascribe_v and_o impute_v the_o whole_a proposition_n unto_o i_o §_o iii_o t._n h._n prove_v guilty_a of_o lie_n and_o slander_n reader_n in_o my_o answer_n to_o his_o former_a dialogue_n i_o charge_v he_o with_o eighten_v lie_n and_o slander_n under_o a_o distinct_a head_n pag._n 154_o 155_o 156._o of_o which_o i_o find_v not_o that_o he_o have_v take_v any_o notice_n save_v two_o by_o way_n of_o further_a affirmation_n but_o no_o proof_n a_o few_o i_o shall_v mention_v to_o his_o utter_a shame_n with_o all_o man_n love_v religion_n one_a that_o the_o quaker_n own_v of_o christ_n jesus_n and_o the_o christ_n they_o own_v be_v a_o mere_a mystical_a romance_n dial._n p._n 10._o cont._n pag._n 9_o a_o profane_a untruth_n 2._o that_o the_o light_n in_o the_o quaker_n see●_n no_o necessity_n of_o a_o mediator_n 1_o dial._n p._n 35._o when_o god_n know_v we_o feel_v the_o daily_a benefit_n of_o he_o 3._o that_o the_o quaker_n account_v the_o blood_n of_o christ_n no_o more_o than_o they_o do_v the_o blood_n of_o a_o common_a thief_n ibid._n p._n 38._o a_o ungodly_a aspersion_n 4._o that_o we_o deny_v his_o visible_a come_v and_o appearance_n in_o the_o world_n cont._n p._n 37._o this_o he_o contradict_v elsewhere_o 5._o that_o the_o quaker_n dissemble_v when_o they_o tell_v people_n they_o own_o the_o scripture_n and_o that_o they_o render_v they_o of_o no_o more_o authority_n than_o esop_n fable_n cont._n epist_n both_o abominable_a untruth_n 6._o that_o a_o quaker_n shall_v say_v the_o thing_n that_o trouble_n t●ee_v be_v thy_o puzzle_v thyself_o in_o that_o book_n the_o bible_n thou_o will_v never_o be_v settle_v till_o thou_o throw_v that_o book_n away_o cont._n pag._n 76._o a_o arrant_a slander_n 7._o that_o a_o quaker_n shall_v say_v to_o one_o i_o nobb_v what_o d●est_v thou_o tell_v i_o of_o the_o scripture_n they_o be_v no_o more_o to_o i_o t●en_o a_o old_a aimanak_n whereas_o j._n nobbs_n if_o he_o be_v alive_a and_o have_v but_o a_o little_a more_o honesty_n then_o t._n h_n can_v but_o confess_v that_o he_o be_v no_o quaker_n nor_o that_o there_o be_v one_o so_o call_v in_o that_o country_n when_o any_o thing_n like_o those_o word_n be_v speak_v as_o t._n holbrow_n the_o person_n charge_v by_o j._n n._n relate_v it_o to_o i_o the_o last_o summer_n dial._n 8._o that_o the_o quaker_n appoint_v their_o minister_n to_o speak_v in_o such_o a_o place_n and_o at_o such_o a_o time_n and_o they_o go_v to_o meeting_n only_o to_o decoy_n trapan_n &_o inviegle_n cont._n pag._n 66._o 9_o that_o a_o woman-quaker_n shall_v bid_v her_o husband_n take_v another_o woman_n ibid._n pag._n 63._o 10._o that_o the_o motion_n of_o god_n spirit_n be_v pretend_v by_o quaker_n at_o least_o one_o of_o 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