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every_o point_n of_o his_o religion_n and_o therefore_o you_o charge_v he_o to_o prove_v what_o be_v no_o part_n of_o his_o faith_n &_o to_o bring_v probable_a argument_n for_o that_o doctrine_n which_o he_o do_v not_o hold_v as_o probable_a to_o wit_n that_o the_o pope_n can_v by_o way_n of_o power_n and_o authority_n deliver_v soul_n out_o of_o purgatory_n the_o pope_n by_o the_o power_n of_o his_o key_n may_v grant_v pardon_n unto_o the_o live_n out_o of_o the_o treasury_n of_o christ_n his_o satisfaction_n and_o the_o satisfaction_n of_o the_o live_a may_v be_v apply_v to_o relieve_v the_o dead_a as_o the_o father_n most_o clear_o and_o uniform_o teach_v but_o the_o key_n of_o peter_n can_v only_o bind_v and_o loose_v upon_o earth_n and_o absolve_v from_o sin_n and_o penalty_n the_o live_n minister_n when_o they_o dispute_v with_o catholic_n be_v like_a unto_o a_o man_n that_o sit_v on_o thorn_n so_o prick_v and_o urge_v with_o the_o evidencye_n of_o the_o present_a argument_n as_o 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