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A67846 Three contending brethren, Mr. Williams, Mr. Lob, Mr. Alsop, reconcil'd, and made friends by an occasional conference with three notorious hereticks, Mr. Humphreys, Mr. Clark, Dr. Crisp. By Calvin Anti-Crispian. Trepidantium Malleus. 1698 (1698) Wing Y88B; ESTC R221091 18,673 24

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they do not this and that they shall come under the wrath of God P. 559 Against Qualifications at which I strike on all occasions even Faith it self for they make the Covenant of Grace a Covenant of Works P. 633 I make this notable Remark 16 Luke 20 The young Prodigal return'd to his Father like a Rogue then the Robes were put on him Mr. L. Was not this an excellent Proof No he return'd not like a Rogue neatly phras'd like a D. of D. by the way tho' if you will so untheologically express it he went away like one for it is said before When he came to himself I hope by the way you may in time he was you find so changed there was Humility in his Heart Confessions in his Mouth and a begun Reformation I will arise and go to my Father and will say unto him Father I have sinned against Heaven and before thee and am no more worthy to be called thy Son make me one of thy hired Servants Dr. C. I see you will still be objecting which thing I could never endure being known to be the weakest and feeblest Sect-master that ever was since the Creation But what makes you smile Mr. Alsop Mr. A. To see a man plead for a Faith without Repentance or Sorrow and Sadness and make such Proselytes It puts me in mind what the King of the Ammonites did to David's messengers 2 Sam. 10.4 shaved off one half of their Beards and cut off their Garments to the middle even to their Buttocks and sent them away So you send away and so look your Converts with Faith without Repentance but David bids them tarry at Jericho till their Beards were grown Let Repentance grow else you are not compleat but half Christians Hanun paid dear for what he did and so may you Dr. C. Do you think I am a Witch to answer such a man as you Mr. A. No truly they would do you a great deal of wrong that should so charge you Mr. L. Brother Williams and Brother Alsop let us be gone I care to stay no longer to hear such abominable Phrases Doctrius and Heresies from such a Brainless man Dr. C. Pray Sirs come back I will now endeavour to say something that may please you I said after all p. 638 Good works are comfortable Evidences that we are in Christ Mr. W. Well said Dr. then a man may fetch some comfort from his Graces Consider what Paul said 1 Cor. 2.12 For our rejoycing is this the testimony of our Consciences that in simplicity and godly sincerity we have had our conversation in the World Have you not denied fetching Comfort from hence because all from Christ and argued all-along at such an idle rate as if I preaching in those words 1 Tim. iv 16 So shalt thou save thy self and them that hear thee I should lay down this Doctrine Ministers are their own Saviours and the Saviours of their hearers then God is not their Saviour nor Christ c. Dr. C. I will think of it I said also That Christ draws without an absolute necessary compulsion but draws sweetly and freely to good works Mr. L. What! is the Physick poured down the Throat come to this Dr. C. And p. 676 in the Sermon about the Fast appointed by my good King C. the first whom I there commend I said The end of a Fast is 1. The humbling us for Sin 2. The pleasing of God 3. The averting of Wrath. That Faith that justifies alone stands not alone without good works 685. Then I tell them when a Man sees Christ as the chief of ten thousand and all sair then he comes to him 101. That God hides his Face from a Believer when he harbours Sin 688. Mr. L. But did you not say things over and over and with great Zeal things diametrically opposite Is the justified blind man at the same time a seeing man Sees Christ fair c Sure these be unusual contradictions No doubt Mr. Edwards's Charge in his Crispianism Vnmask'd is too true but I doubt after all this the Vertigo will soon take you again notwithstanding some intervals Mr. L. I doubt Brethren this man makes not a few Atheists or Scepticks Tho' great is their folly that conclude Christ is not of God because we contend about his person and offices As if because there are disputes among Philosophers whether the Sun be 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 whether it heat formaliter or eminenter whether the old Ptolomaicks or new Capernicans be right about the Suns motion or the earths motion therefore should conclude there is no Sun nor Earth neither and so might we name a thousand other things M. W. You speak honestly and soberly good Mr. Lob You know this man's Followers preach up that Conversion changeth not a man's state but nature only Dr. C. Oh how Herod and Pontius Pilate became Friends against Christ how friendly you two are against Free-Grace Mr. A. Lay aside the Comparison of Herod and Pontius Pilate they have served all turns and are grown thread-bare and therefore 't is high time to let them alone Dr. C. Look to your selves I tell you If any man Preach any other Doctrine than I do you know the Consequence as I say in my Book Look yonder here is coming my Brother Toune and my Brother Eaton they will justifie me and knock you all down For some say they write something like sence and truth who will by no means grant that I do Mr. L. What say you Mr. Toune Mr. T. Gentlemen you are men of known worth and therefore you cannot be ignorant that to understand a Polemical man you must consider against whom he writ I wrote against the Arminians Dr. Taylor in particular not against the Calvinists as Crup did whose madness hath ruin'd our Cause he is as 1 Tim. 1.7 a Doctor of the Law and understands not what he says nor whereof he affirms Read worthy Sirs p. 115. of my Book of Free-Grace if p. 33. seems harsh I am not of your opinion great Sirs I modestly confess and be sure not of Crisps for on my principles as well as yours he is guilty of damnable Heresies Dr. C. Bless me Did I send for thee Toune to justifie me and knock down my Enemies and dost thou justifie my Enemies in their Charge against me and knock down me Good Brother Eaton speak one word for me let your lips drop as the Honycomb Mr. W. What say you Mr. Eaton Mr. E. Brethren I hope I may call you so tho' our Heads differ yet I cannot call this tattling prating Dr. so being of your Opinion and Mr. Toune's he is a notorious Heretick for if it please you read the beginning of my Honycomb and you will find I was so far from Crisp's mad definition of Justification that I rather gave one more like yours than his These are my very words Justification is when we feeling what loft creatures we are in our selves and in all our works and