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A65229 The papists younger brother, or, The vileness of Quakerism detected as it hath been printed and published by themselves : and an appendix of the Quakers unsound faith, which is also gathered out of their own printed books / by Misoplanes and Philalethes. Misoplanes.; Philalethes. 1679 (1679) Wing W1031; ESTC R28383 121,068 189

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24 25. R. G. We who since we believed received the Atonement shall after our bodily death be raised from the grave and be made partakers of that salvation which through faith and hope we wait for while in the body Q. Numb 20 Answ Thou puttest salvation at a great distance shewing thy self yet in the grave of corruption Is this thy meaning of salvation that thou hopest and waitest for while in the body to be raised from the grave after thy bodily death What strange nonsensical language is this * And was this the salvation that Christs second appearance was looked for to effect Hebr. 9.28 For your better understanding this Quakers mind take his Marginal note * He now hopes and waits for salvation after the bodily death see his sottishness and confusion at other times it was perfectly wrought at once without or else purchased he knows not which at Jerusalem but he hopes for it after his bodily death ah the hypocrites hope shall perish Pr. Pr. Here this Quaker hath given us a tedious chase I shall pursue him as close as I can To believe and wait for the life everlasting after death is no Article of this Quakers Faith this is putting salvation at a great distance according to these Quaking-lines that man shews himself to be in the grave of corruption that believes and waits for salvation after his bodily death To understand salvation so as to hope and wait for it while in the body to be raised from the grave after bodily death this is strange nonsensical language in this Quakers estimate according to Heb. 9.28 truly misunderstood basely wrested by this Quaker salvation after this life ended is not the salvation that Christs second coming is look't for to effect this Quaker in his marginal note scoffs at his Adversary for hoping and waiting for salvation after the bodily death it 's no less fault than sottishness and confusion to hope for salvation after the bodily death everlasting life purchased by Christ upon the Cross at Jerusalem hoped for after bodily death this is sottishness and confusion for any faithful Christians to do yea which is far worse it 's a damnable sin to do so it 's no less than the hypocrites false hope which shall perish Q. p. 29. Q. Numb 21 Also thou grantest that his appearing the second time is without sin to salvation but when thinkest thou that must be Is it in this life or hereafter Thou sayest that after the bodily death you shall be raised out of the grave and made partakers of that salvation 't is strange the salvation of sinners yea of the whole world as thy word is should be compleated at once above 1600 years since as yet to be so long after death lookt for how long is not known to thee Or dost thou look for Christ as the Son of Mary to appear outwardly in a bodily existence to save thee according to thy words If thou dost thou mayest look till thine eyes drop out before thou wilt see such an appearance of him Pr. Pr. Here this Quaker falls foul upon his Adversary in a rude manner Leviathan-like out of his nostrils goeth smoak to darken the truth Christs appearing the second time without sin to salvation is according to this Quaker in this life not hereafter to be raised out of the grave after the bodily death to be partakers after death of that resurrection which is unto life this is that sound Divinity which this Quakers light within him knows nothing of to affirm that the salvation of sinners yea of the whole world should be compleatly finished by Christs death upon the Cross above 1600 years since this is strange Doctrine to this ill-principled Quaker that Christs death upon the Cross so long since past should be effectual to deliver from bodily death hereafter those that believe in him this is that comfortable Doctrine which this Quakers stomack cannot digest you see clearly it 's no part of this Quakers faith to believe that Christ is the Son of the Virgin Mary or to look for Christ as the Son of Mary to appear outwardly in a bodily existence to save those that believe in his name this Quaker is bold to say to this purpose If any man believes that Christ shall come at the last day of judgment to judg the quick and the dead to adjudg the righteous to Heaven to condemn the wicked to Hell then he may look till his eyes drop out before he will see such an appearance of him after this life is ended by a bodily death Christs last coming to judgment is no Article of this Quakers faith without doubt Job that was a perfect man was in the right when he said That he knew that his Redeemer liveth and that he should stand at the latter day upon the earth and that in his flesh when worms had destroyed his body he should see God and his eyes should behold him after his bodily death though his reins were consumed within him Q. p. 30. Q. Numb 22 The works of the Law excluded by the Apostle from justification is when the Law is done without life or spirit so the works not done in Christ the Seed do not justifie The righteousness by faith is when the Law is performed in us by the works of the spirit righteousness in the elect seed c. Pr. Pr. Give me leave to write without offence if this Quaker had not been born out of due time he might in this point have been without exception one of the Tridentine Cabal his spirit agrees well with those Cabal-men about justification by works of righteousness as for Christs righteousness without us made ours by faith this is that Doctrine which is disowned by this Papal-Quaker in this Quaking-account of justification what hath this Quaker said more which the Trent-Council hath not determined to his hand Concil Trid. Cap. 3. Sess 6. Cum ea renascentia per meritum passionis ejus gratia qua justifiunt illis tribuatur Together with the new birth through the Merit of Christs passion grace whereby they are made righteous is imparted to them Cap. 7. Sess 6. Justificatio est sanctificatio renovatio interioris hominis per voluntariam susceptionem gratiae Justification is both the sanctification and renovation of the inward man by grace received as face answers face in the glass so do the Quakers and Papists agree together in the point of Justification by inherent righteousness they do both disclaim the works of the Law before grace received works not done in Christ the Seed do not justifie says the Canting-Quaker Justification is the sanctifying of the inner man by grace received say the Papists The righteousness by faith is when the Law is performed in us by the works of the Spirit saith the Quaker By grace received in the new birth are we made righteous say the Papists Thus the Light within which guides the Quakers to scribble concerning Justification is nothing else
but Trent-Popery infused into them by subtil Popish Priests and propagated by the deluded Quakers at this day This old Popish Doctrine is that which their Praters put off in their Speakings and Writings to their followers as if it were new doctrine from heaven something belonging to Christianity which was not known till the brain-sick Quakers made it known Q. p. 32 33. Q. Numb 23 To oppose the righteousness of the elect seed and the works of the Spirit within as unto Justification this R. G. scornfully tells us that in plainer words they of Rome thus express That the Apostle excludes from Justification works which we our selves do by our strength without the help of the grace of God not those works we do by the aid of the Spirit To these lines this Quaker answers thus They of Rome have given a better definition of Justification than R.G. hath and at least shown a better esteem of works of grace and of the Spirit of God than he hath done Now if I be exclaimed against herein for Popery I must say that wherein Papists hold any truth though in unrighteousness I must not therefore deny it if the Papists and the Devil also confess there is a God and a Christ must I therefore deny it or be counted a Papist Pr. Pr. Here the Quakers Light within is stifly at work to justifie himself for holding as the Papists do the same doctrine of Justification by works of righteousness In plain terms Quakerism in the point of Justification is Popery new-born into the world it 's no false charge to say That the Quakers have a Pope in their bellies their Books have the same Papal doctrine that truth which the Papists hold though in unrighteousness as this Quaker saith as to Justification even the self-same doth this Quaker hold as fast to the shame of the received doctrine of the Church of England I might tell the Reader how Rom. 8.3 4. 1 Cor. 6.9 10 11. Isa 45.8 James 2.20 21 23. Gal. 3.6 are discoursed from by this Quaker no otherwise than the Papists have done to assert Justification by the works of the Spirit but it is no new thing with the Devil or his Agents to quote Scripture to prove that which God never intended them for That man is a stranger to the point of Justification that knows not that many Scriptures have been wrested by the Papists for this purpose which have been soundly vindicated from Popish glosses put upon them This Quaker doth but actum agere act the Popish old part over again to amuse unwary Christians with the rehearsal of them If this Quakers spirit were of God he had ere this been silent in this matter To use this Quakers own words I shall tell him That it is an old Popish trick to assert Justification by works of the Spirit from mistaken Scriptures and there is certainly no little spice of the old Law-working spirit in it Q. p. 33. Q. Numb 24 Our asserting the righteousness of the elect seed raised in us and obedience of faith therein for justification and acceptance with God this doth neither deny nor oppose the Sacrifice of the crucified body of the Man Christ Jesus nor yet blot out of our hearts either the name or remembrance of him who is the great Propitiation for sin as unjustly the elect seed and its righteousness within is accused for the appearance of Christ within and his manifestation in spirit doth neither deny nor oppose his manifestation or suffering in the flesh but rather answereth and fulfilleth the intent and end thereof for the outward manifestation of the Son of God in the flesh as it did condemn sin in the likeness of sinful flesh so his inward manifestation in spirit doth destroy sin worketh justification and redemption in them who obey his light within for he is the author of eternal salvation to as many as obey him So here is righteousness redemption and salvation received in Christ the Light through obedience to his Light within Pr. Pr. This Quaker hath had fair play he is transcribed usque ad nauseam by this tedious discourse this Quaker gives us to understand that there is no such truth as Justification by faith alone the subject matter of his lines is hammered out upon his Popish anvil there is nothing for the main said which any Papist will disown Justification and Sanctification are by him ignorantly confounded but rightly enough according to the Popish mode he that shall affirm this Quaker to be one of Abbot Joachim's Disciples or one belonging to Seculum Spiritus Sancti or a Franciscan Papist in a new dress is not altogether mistaken his whole discourse is a medley of some truth of more falshood to glance at the title of his Pamphlet you see it plain unless we are of the same mind with the Papists in the doctrine of Justification we are all far from the nature of true Christianity in this matter in this Quakers account the Church of England together with other Reformed Churches is altogether Antichristian Q. p. 40 41. Q. Numb 25 As to R.G. his saying His Apostles and all his Ministers in all ages all in one joint voice pointing to Jesus the Son of Mary this son of man with an Hosanna to the Son of David Ans That the holy Prophets Apostles and Ministers testified unto Jesus Christ both as man born of the Virgin and unto his Divinity this is owned But it appears further that R. G.'s Hosanna and pretended adoration and claim of Salvation is only to him as the Son of Mary as now existing outwardly bodily without us * whereupon I ask him if he hath so considered him to be God the Saviour or the Son from the substance of the Father as some of his Brethren have confessed the Son is and that he existeth outwardly bodily without us at Gods right hand what Scripture-proof hath he for these words and then what and where is Gods right hand is it visible or invisible within us or without us only and is Christ the Saviour as an outward bodily existent or person without us distinct from God and on that consideration to be worshipped as God yea or nay And where doth the Scripture say he is outwardly and bodily glorified at Gods right hand according to the foregoing Asterisk * you may take this Authors Marginal note Why did he not call Mary the Mother of God as the Papists do which to be sure is not Scripture-language Pr. Pr. In this Quaking ramble we find too much false abominable doctrine delivered to serious Christians it 's certainly sad to read so much base doctrine vented under the pretended nature of true Christianity I shall endeavour to sum it up in these following particulars First here is no Hosanna due to Christ as the Son of Mary as now existing bodily without us 2ly Jesus the Son of Mary is not God our Saviour 3ly That Jesus Christ is not the Son of the substance of the