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A03584 The ansvvere of Mr. Richard Hooker to a supplication preferred by Mr Walter Travers to the HH. Lords of the Privie Counsell Hooker, Richard, 1553 or 4-1600.; Jackson, Henry, 1586-1662. 1612 (1612) STC 13706; ESTC S104190 20,605 36

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but also for other reformed Churches even Geneva it selfe for they haue the like to change or take that away which cannot but with great inconvenience be observed In the meane while the breach of it may in such consideration be pardoned which truly I wish howsoever it be yet hardly defended as long as it stan deth in force vncanceld 19 Now whereas he confesseth another way had beene more convenient and that he found in himselfe secret vnwillingnesse to doe that which he did doth hee not say plainely in effect that the light of his owne vnderstanding proved the way he tooke perverse crooked reason was so plaine and pregnant against it that his mind was alienated his will averted to another course yet somewhat there was which so farre over-ruled that it must needs bee done even against the very streame what doth it bewraie Finally his purposed protestation whereby hee meant openly to make it knowne that he did not allow this kind of proceeding and therefore would satisfie men otherwise and deale no more in this place sheweth his good mind in this that he meant to stay himselfe from further offending but it serueth not his turne Hee is blamed because the thing he had done was amisse his answer is That which I would haue done afterwards had beene well if so bee I had done it 20 But as in this hee standeth perswaded that hee hath done nothing besides dutie so hee taketh it hardly that the high Commissioners should charge him with indiscretion Wherefore as if hee could so wash his hands he maketh a long and a large declaration concerning the carriage of himselfe how he waded in matters of smaller waight and how in things of greater moment how warily he dealt how naturally he took his things rising from the text how closely he kept himselfe to the Scripture he tooke in hand how much paines he tooke to confirme the necessity of beleeving iustification by Christ only and to shewe how the Church of Rome denyeth that a man is saved by faith alone without workes of the Law what the sonnes of thunder would haue done if they had beene in his case that his answere was verie temperate without immodest or reproachfull speech that when he might before all haue reproved me he did not but contented himselfe with exhorting me before all to follow Nathans example and revisit my doctrine when hee might haue followed S. Paules example in reproving Peter he did not but exhorted me with Peter to endure to be withstood This testimonie of his discreet carrying himselfe in the handling of his matter being more aagreeably framed giuen him by an other then by himselfe might make somwhat for the praise of his person but for defence of his action vnto them by whom he is thought vndiscreet for not conferring privatly before he spake will it serue to answere that when he spake he did it consideratly He perceiveth it will not and therefore addeth reasons such as they are As namely how he purposed at the first to take an other course and that was this publiquely to deliver the truth of such doctrine as I had otherwise taught and at convenient opportunitie to conferre with mee vpon such points Is this the rule of Christ If thy brother offend openly in his speech controule it first with contrary speech openly and conferre with him afterwards vpon it when convenient opportunitie serveth Is there anie law of God or of man wherevpon to ground such a resolution any Church extant in the world where teachers are allowed thus to do or to be done vnto He cannot but see how weake an all●gation it is when hee bringeth in his following this course first in one matter and so afterwards in another to approue himselfe now following it againe For if the very purpose of doing a thing so vncharitable be a fault the deed is a greater fault and doth the doing of it twise make it the third time fit and allowable to bee done The waight of the cause which is his thirde defence relieveth him as little The waightier it was the more it required considerat advise and consultation the more it stood him vpō to take good heed that nothing were rashlie done or spoken in it But hee meaneth waightie in regard of the wonderfull danger except hee had presently withstood me without expecting a time of conference This cause being of such moment that might preiudice the faith of Christ incourage the ill affected to continue still in their damnable waies and other weake in faith to suffer themselues to be seduced to the destruction of their soules he thought it his bounden duetie to speake before hee talked with me A man that shoulde read this and not know what I had spoken might imagine that I had at the least denied the Divinitie of Christ. But they which were present at my speech and can testifie that nothing passed my lips more then is cōtained in their writings whom for soundnes of doctrine learning iudgment Mr Travers himselfe doth I dare say not only allow but honor they which hard and doe know that the doctrine here signified in so fearefull manner the doctrine that was so dangerous to the faith of Christ that was so likely to encourage ill affected men to continue still in dānable waies that gaue so great cause to tremble for fear of the present destruction of Soules was only this I doubt not but God was mercifull to saue thousands of our Fathers living heretofore in popish superstitions in as much as they sinned ignorantly and this spoken in a sermon the greatest part whereof was against poperie they will hardly be able to discerne how Christianity should herewith be so grievously shaken 21 Whereby his fourth excuse is also taken from him For what doth it boot him to saie The time vvas short wherein he was to preach after me when his preaching of this matter perhaps ought surely might haue bin either very well omitted or at the least more conveniently for a while differd even by their iudgements that cast the most favourable aspect towards these his hasty proceedings The poyson which men had taken at my hands was not so quicke and strong in operation as in eight daies to make them past cure by eight daies delay there was no likelyhood that the force and power of his speech could dy longer meditation might bring better and stronger proofes to mind then extemporall dexteritie could furnish him with and who doth know whether time the only mother of sound iudgement and discreet dealing might haue given that actiō of his some better ripenesse which by so great festination hath as a thing borne out of time brought small ioy vnto him that begat it Doth hee thinke it had not beene better that neither my speech had seemed in his eies as an arrow sticking in a thigh of flesh nor his own as a child whereof he must needs bee delivered by an houre His last way of disburdening