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A01987 The aunswer of Iohn Gough preacher, to Maister Fecknams obiections against his sermon, lately preached in the Tower of London. 15. Ianurie. 1570. Gough, John, fl. 1561-1570. 1570 (1570) STC 12131; ESTC S118696 21,473 49

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THE Aunswer of Iohn Gough Preacher To Maister Fecknams Obiections against his Sermon lately preached in the Tower of London 15. Ianurie 1570. ¶ Imprinted at London by Iohn Awdeley dwellyng in little Britaine stréete without Aldersgate 1570. ¶ TO THE RIGHT worshipfull Mayster Pellam the Quenes Maiesties Lieftenaunt of her highnes Ordinaunce of the Tower Iohn Gough Preacher of the word of God sendeth greeting in our Lord God euerlasting Amen BECAVSE ryght woorshipfull at your earnest request and godly desire I preached the 15. of Ianuarie last passed a sermon in the Tower of London in the presence of Doctour Watson sometime bishop of Lyncolne and Maister Fecknam sometime also Abbot of Westminster wyth others Sithens the which my Sermon the sayd M. Fecknam hath seemed by writing to condemne certaine articles contained in my Doctrine at that present and there by me taught That is to say where I affirmed that it was impossible to keepe the law of God he hath taken vpon him to affirme the contrarie vz. That it is possible and that it lyeth in mans power to obserue and keepe them Secondly where I taught that we be iustified by faith onely he denieth the same and therewyth teacheth iustification by workes Thirdly where I denied the inuocation of Saintes he affirmeth the cōtrary And fourthly and lastly where as I affirmed that all sinnes are deadly he teacheth the contrary Aduouching that there be some veniall sinnes therefore concludeth that all are not deadly All which his assertions he semeth very clarklye to ground and maintaine by the autoritie of the word of God and consent of the Fathers Which thing he hath in such maner and wyth such goodly glosing wordes blased and set forth that at the first shew he seemeth vtterly to beate me downe to the ground and maketh that my doctrine in the eyes of the simple and of such whose consciences are not as yet setled in true religion to appeare false and vnsound and therefore of no credite nor to be receaued I therfore thought it my boūden dutie to stand in the defence of my doctrine being sound and perfect and according to the sacred and holy Scriptures And bringyng M. Fecknams obiections to the bright shinyng Sunne of God his most holy woord hys gay cloked colours might be detected and made apparant to the eyes of all men and thereby the counterfeited mistes of his Assertions driuen away the true and wholesome doctrine of myne might be made the more manifest And therefore haue taken vpon me at this present to answer the same wherein I haue vsed this order First I haue aunswered euery article of the foure particularly and restored the Scriptures to their right sence which M. Fecknam for the maintenaunce of his errors hath very corruptly wrested That done I proue my doctrine true both by the Scriptures and Fathers so sufficiently that I am perswaded that all colours of caueling is remoued or taken away to all such as seeke the truth and onely seeke the same for the better setling of their consciences rather then for vayneglory or estimacion of men Hauing therefore now finished this my aunswer and defence of my doctrine aforesayd thought it good to dedicate the same to your worship that you with the rest of Gods Children may be the better setled and grounded in this most wholsome and sound doctrine of God his glorious Gospell And the other whose eyes are not yet opened God may in his great mercies hereby remoue the mistes of the false and corrupt doctrine of the Papistes from the same That they may yet now at length see how they haue bene seduced and deceiued and receiue the truth now also offered them to their euerlasting comfort Whych obtayned I haue my desire and shall in that respect thinke my labours herein well bestowed which I pray God for his sonne Iesus Christes sake may redounde to hys glory and profit of hys Church Amen Which thing as I haue well ment so I hope your worship wyll take in good part Whom I pray God so to behold with his most fauorable coūtenaunce that as he hath begonne in you and that in hys free mercies this his good worke and opened your hart to beleue his truth and your eyes to see the same perfect it in you vnto the end That you may dayly grow from grace to grace from fayth to fayth and from vertue to vertue vntyll you become a perfecte man in Iesus Christ to hys glory and honour and to your euerlasting comfort AMEN Yours to commaund in the Lord Iohn Gough Preacher c. ❧ The aunswer of Iohn Gough Preacher to M. Fecknams Obiections I Haue M. Fecknam red your cauelyng Obiections to certayne poyntes of religion by me touched and taught in my Sermon in the Tower of London in your presence with others Wherin as you haue corruptly wrested the Scriptures in your Assertions to the maintenaunce of your heresies So haue you also with like subteltie wrested my wordes of purpose leauing out such my reasons or arguments as vtterly made against you and reciting them maymedly you will séeme to triumphe before you haue obtayned the victorie And although the articles M Fecknam which you haue taken vpon you to inuey against and as it were piked out from the rest of my Sermon be already so sufficiently and learnedly answered by such as I vnfainedly acknowledge my selfe not worthy in respect of vertue and learning to carrye their bookes after them Whereby you myghte bee well remoued from these your heresies if you would rede them and in reading geue place to the truth which you onely ought to séeke and not your own estimation Yet least you should thinke I were not able to defend my doctrine which you séeme so to impugne with Doctor vpon Doctor and with certain wrested scriptures preposterously vnderstanded I shall God willing with so few wordes as I may and as my litle leysure from waightier studies shall permit and suffer me aunswer the same Wishing that God in his mercies will so open your vnderstanding that with humblenes of hart you may simply séeke IESVS CHRIST and the profit of his Church Amen ¶ M. Fecknams first Article 1 That it is not impossible to keepe God hys commaundement Which I did affirme to be impossible Your scriptures you alledge are these that follow whereof the first is Christ in Matthew 11. where he saith Tollite iugum meū super vos c. Take vp my yoke vpō you c. Wherin you triumphe ouer my poore lump of leade at your pleasure But if you weyed the text with a litle more déeper consideration you should sée that you are fowly deceiued For in that Christ calleth it Iugum meum my yoke he maketh a differēce betwene his doctrine and the law and that in respect of the straightnes of the law and of the easines of his doctrine and of that he requireth of his Children and Scholers But howe heauy a lumpe the law is S. Peter
we ought not to worship Let vs not make it religion to worship brute beastes for the basest sort of men that be be better thē they whō notwithstanding we ought not to worship Let vs not make it religion to worship dead men because if they haue liued godlyly they ar not counted that they seeke suche honours but they would haue him to be worshipped of vs who allumining them do reioyce c. The same August agayne in hys booke Contra Faust. lib. 20. ca. 21. saith thus Ipsi enim Sancti vel homines aut angeli exhiberi sibi nolunt ꝙ vni Deo debori volunt Apparuit hoc in Paulo Barnaba cum commoto miraculis que per eos facta sunt Licaonij tanquam dijs immolare voluerunt Conscissis enim vestimentis suis confitētes persuadētes se deos non esse ista sibi fieri vetuerunt Apparuit in Angelis sicut in Apocalipsi legimus angelum se adorari ꝓhibentem ac dicentem adoratori suo Conseruus tuus sum fratrum tuorum i. For the very Saints them selues whether they be dead men or Angels will not haue honour geuen vnto them which they would haue onely due to god This appeared in Paul and Barnabas when the men of Licaonia astonied at their miracles wold haue done sacrifice vnto thē as if they had bene Gods. For they renting their garmēts confessing and perswading them that they wer not Gods forbad such thinges to be done vnto them This appeared also in the Angels as we reade in the Apocalips The Angell forbidding him selfe to be worshipped and saying to him that worshipped him I am the fellow seruaunt of thee and thy brethren Also Ciril in his 6. booke Contra Iulia. saith thus At sanctos Martyres neque deos esse dicimus neque adorare consueuimus Laudamus autem eos potius summis honoribus que pro veritate strenue certarūt fidei cinceritatē seruarunt ita vt et suam animam contempserint et mortis terroribus valedicentes pre ualuerunt in summis periculis tanteꝙ fuerint fortitudinis quasi statuas fibi sue vite excitaturi c. That is to say As for the holy Martyrs wee neither say that they are Gods neither haue bene accustomed to worship them But we prayse them rather wyth great honour because they haue valiantly striuen for the truth and haue mayntayned the sinceritye of faith in so much as they haue despised their own life and not regarding the terrors of death haue preuailed in very great daungers and were of so great strength as though they would rayse vp ymages to them selues of their own lyfe c. Agayne S. August in his 8. booke De Ciuitate Dei cap. 27. saith Quis autem audiuit aliquando fidelium stantem sacerdotem ad altare etiam super sanctum corpus Martyris ad Dei honorem cultumque constructum dicere in precibus Offero tibi sacrificium Petre aut Paule vel Cipriane c. That is But which of the faithful hath heard the Priest at the aultar yea vpon the holy body of the Martyr made forth honor and worship of God saye at any time in his prayers I offer a sacrifice to thee O Peter or Paule or Cyprian c. These also M. Fecknam approueth my assertion true that the Saints are not to be prayed to and likewyse vtterlye condemne your heresy which maintaineth the cōtrary ¶ M. Fecknams third article 3 That fayth onelye doth not iustifie And for this Article which you thus affirme you expound the place alledged by me out of S. Paul Rom. 2. Arbitremur iustificari hominem sine operibus legis We suppose a man to be iustified without the woorkes of the law after this sort You say that I inferred hereupon that workes do in no maner of wise iustifie vs which is vtterly false For my woordes were that hereby S. Paul did teach vs that wee were not iustified by workes Your addition in no maner of wise I spake not For I know M. Fecknam that there is two maner of iustifications vnderstāded in the scriptures the one before God the other before men Of iustification before God it is truly said by S. Paul Rom. 4. Credidit autem Abraham Deo imputatum est ei ad iustitiam Abraham beleued God it was imputed vnto him vnto righteousnes And of sustification before mē S. Iames speaketh in the. 2. Chap. of his Epistle thus Abraham pater noster nōne ex factis iustificatus est cum obtulisset filium suum super-altare c. i. Was not our father Abraham iustified through workes when he had offered his sonne vpon the aulter c. And that he so ment appeareth by his very woordes which follow within few lines after thus Credidit autem Abraham Deo et imputatū est illi ad iustitiā amicus Dei vocatus est Abraham beleued God and it was reputed vnto him for righteousnes and he was called the friend of God. Thus we sée S. Paul and S. Iames reconciled and both teach iustification by faith in the sight of god For it is necessarye that because faith is an inuisible thing and cānot rightly be iudged of men for that a mā may brag before men and say that he hath faith when he is vtterly voide therof And therefore of necessitie workes be required to follow the iustifieng faith as the shadow the body that the faith which is onely knowen vnto God may by the godly conuersation of the iustified man appeare and be made manifest to men also And therfore S. Paul after he hath proued our iustification by faith without the workes of the law from the .3 Chap. of the Epistle to the Rom. vnto the .8 of the same then he there concludeth thus Nulla igitur nunc condemnatio his qui insiti sunt in Christo Iesu qui non iuxta carnē versantur sed iuxta spiritum i. There is nowe therefore no condemnation to them which are graffed in Christ Iesu which walke not after the flesh but after the spirit And when the same Apostle hath in most plaine wordes thus proued our iustification by faith without workes Ephes. 2. Gratia enim seruati estis ꝑ fidem idque non ex vobis Dei donum est nō ex operibus ne quis glorietur i. For ye be saued through fayth and that not of your selues it is the gift of God and not of workes least any man should reioyce Hee immediatelye addeth thys Nam ipsius sumus opus cōditi in Christo Iesu ad opera bona que preparauit deus vt in eis ambularemus i. For we are his workmanship created in Christ Iesu vnto good woorkes which God hath prepared that we shoulde walke in them And where as you M. Fecknam make great wonder at our subteltie or rather sensible absurditie of thys our opinion of iustifieng by fayth onely you fall into these questions whether we meane faith without penaunce as you terme it I suppose you