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A14227 An ansvver to a challenge made by a Iesuite in Ireland Wherein the iudgement of antiquity in the points questioned is truely delivered, and the noveltie of the now romish doctrine plainly discovered. By Iames Vssher Bishop of Meath. Ussher, James, 1581-1656.; Malone, William, 1586-1656. 1624 (1624) STC 24542; ESTC S118933 526,688 560

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in_o bliss_n do_v reject_v that_o kind_n of_o pray_v and_o offer_v for_o the_o dead_a which_o be_v practise_v by_o the_o ancient_a church_n but_o the_o romanist_n be_v of_o this_o judgement_n therefore_o they_o reject_v that_o kind_n of_o pray_v and_o offer_v for_o the_o dead_a which_o be_v practise_v by_o the_o ancient_a church_n the_o truth_n of_o the_o first_o of_o these_o proposition_n do_v appear_v by_o the_o testimony_n of_o epiphanius_n compare_v with_o those_o many_o other_o evidence_n whereby_o we_o have_v former_o prove_v that_o it_o be_v the_o custom_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n to_o make_v prayer_n and_o oblation_n for_o they_o of_o who_o rest_v in_o peace_n and_o bliss_n there_o be_v no_o doubt_n at_o all_o conceive_a the_o verity_n of_o the_o second_o be_v manifest_v by_o the_o confession_n of_o the_o romanist_n themselves_o who_o reckon_v this_o for_o one_o of_o their_o 10._o catholic_a verity_n that_o suffrage_n shall_v not_o be_v offer_v for_o the_o dead_a that_o reign_n with_o christ._n and_o therefore_o that_o ancient_a 7._o form_n of_o pray_v for_o the_o apostle_n martyr_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o saint_n be_v by_o disuse_n deserve_o abolish_v say_v alphonsus_n mendoza_n nay_o 20._o to_o offer_v sacrifice_n and_o prayer_n to_o god_n for_o those_o that_o be_v in_o bliss_n be_v plain_o absurd_a and_o impious_a in_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o jesuite_n azorius_fw-la who_o be_v not_o aware_a that_o thereby_o he_o do_v outstrip_v aërius_n in_o condemn_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n as_o far_o as_o the_o censure_v it_o only_o to_o be_v unprofitable_a for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d what_o shall_v the_o dead_a be_v profit_v thereby_o be_v the_o further_a that_o aërius_n dare_v to_o go_v come_v short_a of_o reject_v it_o as_o absurd_a and_o impious_a and_o therefore_o our_o adversary_n may_v do_v well_o to_o purge_v themselves_o first_o from_o the_o blot_n of_o aërianisme_n which_o stick_v so_o fast_o unto_o they_o before_o they_o be_v so_o ready_a to_o cast_v the_o aspersion_n thereof_o upon_o other_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n the_o reader_n who_o desire_v to_o be_v right_o inform_v in_o the_o judgement_n of_o antiquity_n touch_v this_o point_n be_v to_o remember_v that_o these_o two_o question_n must_v necessary_o be_v distinguish_v in_o this_o inquiry_n whether_o prayer_n and_o oblation_n be_v to_o be_v make_v for_o the_o dead_a and_o whether_o the_o dead_a do_v receive_v any_o peculiar_a profit_n thereby_o in_o the_o latter_a of_o these_o he_o shall_v find_v great_a difference_n among_o the_o doctor_n in_o the_o former_a very_o little_a or_o none_o at_o all_o for_o 24._o howsoever_o all_o do_v not_o agree_v about_o the_o state_n of_o the_o soul_n say_v cassander_n a_o indifferent_a papist_n which_o may_v receive_v profit_n by_o these_o thing_n yet_o all_o do_v judge_v this_o duty_n as_o a_o testimony_n of_o their_o love_n towards_o the_o dead_a and_o a_o profession_n of_o their_o faith_n touch_v the_o soul_n immortality_n and_o the_o future_a resurrection_n to_o be_v acceptable_a unto_o god_n and_o profitable_a to_o the_o church_n therefore_o for_o condemn_v the_o general_a practice_n of_o the_o church_n herein_o which_o aim_v at_o those_o good_a end_n before_o express_v aë●ius_n be_v condemn_v but_o for_o deny_v that_o the_o dead_a receive_v profit_n thereby_o either_o for_o the_o pardon_n of_o the_o sin_n which_o before_o be_v unremit_v or_o for_o the_o cut_n off_o or_o mitigation_n of_o any_o torment_n that_o they_o do_v endure_v in_o the_o other_o world_n the_o church_n do_v never_o condemn_v he_o for_o that_o be_v no_o new_a thing_n invent_v by_o he_o diverse_a worthy_a man_n before_o and_o after_o he_o declare_v themselves_o to_o be_v of_o the_o same_o mind_n and_o be_v never_o for_o all_o that_o charge_v with_o the_o
least_o suspicion_n of_o heresy_n 60._o the_o narration_n of_o lazarus_n and_o the_o rich_a man_n say_v the_o author_n of_o the_o question_n and_o answer_n in_o the_o work_n of_o justin_n martyr_n present_v this_o doctrine_n unto_o we_o that_o after_o the_o departure_n of_o the_o soul_n out_o of_o the_o body_n man_n can_v by_o any_o providence_n or_o care_n obtain_v any_o profit_n suis._n then_o say_v gregory_n nazianzen_n in_o vain_a shall_v any_o one_o go_v about_o to_o relieve_v those_o that_o lament_v here_o man_n may_v have_v a_o remedy_n but_o afterward_o there_o be_v nothing_o but_o bond_n or_o all_o thing_n be_v fast_o bind_v for_o 18.19_o after_o death_n the_o punishment_n of_o sin_n be_v remediless_a say_v theodoret._n and_o therefore_o s._n hierome_n do_v conclude_v 6._o that_o while_o we_o be_v in_o this_o present_a world_n we_o may_v be_v able_a to_o help_v one_o another_o either_o by_o our_o prayer_n or_o by_o our_o counsel_n but_o when_o we_o shall_v come_v before_o the_o judgement_n seat_n of_o christ_n neither_o job_n nor_o daniel_n nor_o noah_n can_v entreat_v for_o any_o one_o but_o every_o one_o must_v bear_v his_o own_o burden_n other_o doctor_n be_v of_o another_o judgement_n that_o the_o dead_a receive_v special_a profit_n by_o the_o prayer_n and_o oblation_n of_o the_o live_n either_o for_o the_o remission_n of_o their_o sin_n or_o the_o ease_n of_o their_o punishment_n but_o whether_o this_o be_v restrain_v to_o small_a offence_n only_o or_o such_o as_o live_v and_o die_v in_o great_a sin_n may_v be_v make_v partaker_n of_o the_o same_o benefit_n and_o whether_o these_o man_n torment_n may_v be_v lessen_v only_o thereby_o or_o in_o tract_n of_o time_n quite_o extinguish_v they_o do_v not_o agree_v upon_o that_o stephanus_n gobarus_n who_o before_o i_o allege_v make_v a_o collection_n of_o the_o different_a sentence_n of_o the_o father_n 232._o whereof_o some_o contain_v the_o receive_a doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n other_o the_o unallowable_a opinion_n of_o certain_a of_o the_o ancient_a that_o vary_a therefrom_o of_o this_o latter_a kind_n he_o make_v this_o sentence_n to_o be_v one_o ibid._n that_o such_o sinner_n as_o be_v deliver_v unto_o punishment_n be_v purge_v therein_o from_o their_o sin_n and_o after_o their_o purge_n be_v free_v from_o their_o punishment_n albeit_o not_o all_o who_o be_v deliver_v unto_o punishment_n be_v thus_o purge_v and_o free_v but_o some_o only_o whereas_o the_o true_a sentence_n of_o the_o church_n be_v that_o none_o at_o all_o be_v free_v from_o punishment_n if_o that_o be_v the_o true_a sentence_n of_o the_o church_n that_o none_o of_o those_o who_o suffer_v punishment_n in_o the_o other_o world_n be_v ever_o free_v from_o the_o same_o then_o the_o apply_v of_o prayer_n to_o the_o help_a of_o man_n soul_n out_o of_o any_o such_o punishment_n must_v be_v refer_v to_o the_o erroneous_a apprehension_n of_o some_o particular_a man_n and_o not_o to_o the_o general_a intention_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n from_o which_o in_o this_o point_n as_o in_o many_o other_o beside_o the_o latter_a church_n of_o rome_n have_v swarve_v and_o quite_o go_v astray_o the_o ancient_a writer_n of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a hierarchy_n handle_v this_o matter_n of_o pray_v for_o the_o dead_a profess_o 7._o do_v by_o way_n of_o objection_n move_v this_o doubt_n to_o what_o purpose_n shall_v the_o bishop_n entreat_v the_o divine_a goodness_n to_o grant_v remission_n of_o sin_n unto_o the_o dead_a and_o a_o like_a glorious_a inheritance_n with_o those_o that_o have_v follow_v god_n see_v by_o such_o prayer_n he_o can_v be_v bring_v to_o no_o other_o rest_n but_o that_o which_o be_v fit_v for_o he_o and_o answerable_a unto_o the_o life_n which_o he_o have_v here_o lead_v if_o our_o romish_a divinity_n have_v be_v then_o acknowledge_v by_o the_o church_n there_o have_v be_v no_o place_n leave_v to_o such_o question_n and_o doubt_n as_o these_o the_o matter_n may_v easy_o have_v be_v answer_v that_o though_o a_o man_n do_v die_v in_o the_o state_n of_o grace_n yet_o be_v he_o not_o present_o to_o be_v admit_v unto_o the_o place_n of_o rest_n but_o must_v first_o be_v reckon_v withal_o both_o for_o the_o committall_n of_o those_o small_a fault_n unto_o which_o through_o humane_a frailty_n he_o be_v daily_o subject_a and_o for_o the_o not_o performance_n of_o full_a penance_n and_o satisfaction_n for_o the_o great_a sin_n into_o which_o in_o this_o life_n he_o have_v fall_v and_o purgatory_n be_v the_o place_n wherein_o he_o must_v be_v cleanse_v from_o the_o one_o and_o make_v up_o the_o just_a payment_n for_o the_o other_o these_o prayer_n be_v direct_v unto_o god_n for_o the_o delivery_n of_o the_o poor_a soul_n which_o be_v not_o now_o in_o case_n to_o help_v itself_o out_o of_o that_o place_n of_o torment_n but_o this_o author_n take_v upon_o he_o the_o person_n of_o s._n paul_n scholar_n and_o profess_v to_o deliver_v herein_o ibid._n that_o tradition_n which_o he_o have_v receive_v from_o his_o divine_a master_n say_v no_o such_o thing_n but_o give_v in_o this_o for_o his_o answer_n the_o divine_a bishop_n as_o the_o scripture_n witness_v be_v the_o interpreter_n of_o the_o divine_a judgement_n for_o he_o be_v the_o angel_n of_o the_o lord_n god_n almighty_a he_o have_v learn_v therefore_o out_o of_o the_o oracle_n deliver_v by_o god_n that_o a_o most_o glorious_a and_o divine_a life_n be_v by_o his_o just_a judgement_n worthy_o adward_v to_o they_o that_o have_v live_v holy_o his_o divine_a goodness_n and_o kindness_n pass_v over_o those_o blot_n which_o by_o humane_a frailty_n he_o have_v contract_v forasmuch_o as_o no_o man_n as_o the_o scripture_n speak_v be_v free_a from_o pollution_n the_o bishop_n therefore_o know_v these_o thing_n to_o be_v promise_v by_o the_o true_a oracle_n pray_v that_o they_o may_v according_o come_v to_o pass_n and_o those_o sacred_a reward_n may_v be_v bestow_v upon_o they_o that_o have_v live_v holy_o the_o bishop_n at_o that_o time_n belike_o do_v not_o know_v so_o much_o as_o our_o popish_a bishop_n do_v now_o that_o god_n servant_n must_v dear_o smart_v in_o purgatory_n for_o the_o sin_n wherewith_o they_o be_v overtake_v through_o humane_a infirmity_n he_o believe_v that_o god_n of_o his_o merciful_a goodness_n will_v pass_v by_o those_o slip_n and_o that_o such_o after-reckoning_n as_o these_o shall_v give_v no_o stoppage_n to_o the_o present_a bestow_n of_o those_o holy_a reward_n upon_o the_o child_n of_o the_o promise_n ibid._n therefore_o the_o divine_a bishop_n say_v our_o author_n ask_v those_o thing_n which_o be_v promise_v by_o god_n and_o be_v grateful_a to_o he_o and_o without_o doubt_n will_v be_v grant_v thereby_o aswell_o manifest_v his_o own_o good_a disposition_n unto_o god_n who_o be_v a_o lover_n of_o the_o good_a as_o declare_v like_o a_o interpreter_n unto_o they_o that_o be_v present_a the_o gift_n that_o shall_v befall_v to_o such_o as_o be_v holy_a he_o further_o also_o add_v that_o the_o bishop_n have_v a_o separate_a power_n as_o the_o interpreter_n of_o god_n judgement_n according_a to_o that_o commission_n of_o christ_n who_o sin_n you_o remit_v they_o be_v remit_v unto_o they_o and_o who_o you_o shall_v retain_v they_o be_v retain_v and_o whatsoever_o thou_o shall_v bind_v upon_o earth_n shall_v be_v bind_v in_o heaven_n and_o whatsoever_o thou_o shall_v loose_v upon_o earth_n shall_v be_v loose_v in_o heaven_n and_o as_o in_o the_o use_n of_o the_o key_n the_o 135.161.162_o schoolman_n follow_v saint_n hierom_n do_v account_v the_o minister_n to_o be_v the_o interpreter_n only_o of_o god_n judgement_n by_o declare_v what_o be_v do_v by_o he_o in_o the_o bind_n or_o lose_v of_o man_n sin_n so_o do_v this_o author_n he●e_v give_v they_o power_n only_o to_o suprà_fw-la separate_v those_o that_o be_v already_o judge_v of_o god_n and_o by_o way_n of_o ibid._n declaration_n and_o convoy_n to_o bring_v in_o those_o that_o be_v belove_v of_o god_n and_o to_o exclude_v such_o as_o be_v ungodly_a and_o if_o the_o power_n which_o the_o minister_n have_v receive_v by_o the_o foresay_a commission_n do_v extend_v itself_o to_o any_o further_a real_a operation_n upon_o the_o live_n pope_n gelasius_n will_v deny_v that_o it_o may_v be_v stretch_v in_o like_a manner_n unto_o the_o dead_a because_o that_o ch●ist_n say_v whatsoever_o thou_o shall_v bind_v upon_o earth_n 〈◊〉_d he_o say_v upon_o earth_n for_o he_o that_o die_v bind_v be_v no_o where_o say_v to_o be_v loose_v and_o th●od●rimo_fw-la that_o which_o a_o man_n remain_v in_o his_o body_n have_v not_o receive_v be_v unclothe_v of_o his_o flesh_n he_o can_v obtain_v say_v leo._n whether_o the_o dead_a receive_v profit_n by_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o live_n be_v still_o a_o question_n in_o the_o church_n maximus_n in_o his_o greek_a