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A85550 Truths defender, and errors reprover: or A briefe discoverie of feined Presbyterie dilated and unfolded in 3. distinct chapters. The first, shewing what English Presbyterie is. The second declareth what the failings and errings are, in the practise of those that have constitution by Ordinance of Parliament. The third chapter discovereth the conceited fancies, of such as minde not Parliamentary directions, either for their own constitution or execution and yet denominate themselves Presbyterians. And both parties being found guilty of transgression, are admonished to repentance, according to the rule of the word of the Lord, that commandeth his servants, saying, Thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sinne upon him, or as it is in the margent, or thou beare not sinne for him Levit. 19. 17. And also Capt. Norwoods declaration, proved an abnegation of Christ. / By J.G. a servant to, and lover of the truth. Graunt, John, of Bucklersbury. 1651 (1651) Wing G1596; Thomason E633_5; ESTC R206472 16,292 20

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the Elderships ought to have proceeded according to the rule for the increase of grace love and knowledge and the maintenance of peace and amitie for the flourishing of true and pure religion instead thereof they have acted by their owne corrupt mindes and wils and vented their hatred and spleen and have prevented truth and promomoted falshood and where there was quiet and peace before they have now raised up discord and dissention and instead of denying themselves and bearing with and edifying one another they have destroyed and devoured each other witnesse the third Classis of London and the assemby of Syon-Colledge which Committee as they call themselves did declare in print to all the world that this forementioned government was the will and appointment of Jesus Christ and avouched it to be jure divino and of themselves made additionall Orders without notice to or leave given them by the Parliament That all Elected Elders of every Parish should have their names very fairely written and set upon the Church doore desiring any whomsoever that could make exception against any thre mentioned they should be heard at such a time and place where the Triers would sit and receive all such accusations they observing no rule or directions therein provided by the Ordinance of Parliament neither for the time limited nor the particulars enumerated nor the competetency or number of witnesses required whereby illimited Jurisdictions innovations and arbitrary proceedings may be avoided and as this lawlesse Committee then and the Triers afterwards declared their owne wils so they all acted as corruptly for I knew a man then chosen an Elder in one of the parishes of the third Classis whose election was with the greatest freedome and affection of the Parishioners as any that hath been chosen the man being auntient in the Congregation and had gone through most Offices amongst them and it so fel out at the same time there was another younger yet a richer Parishioner chosen also that was one of the Triers nominated in the Ordinance who causelesly divers times before had declared himselfe an opposer of the former and in the Vestry he affirmed the Party they had chosen should never be allowed of and presently used all his endeavour to finde cause of exception in such a malicious and inveterate manner as the whole Parish tooke notice of it so that at the next Vestry some of them blamed him that the State having appointed him a Judge he should so maliciously make himselfe the Accuser the Prosecutor the Condemner and Executioner and all To whom he made this answer againe he whom you have chosen shall never be allowed of and I will never give him the right hand of Fellowship nor be reconciled unto him upon his thus speaking the opposed Elder desired the Parish to take notice of two things in his implacable adversarie First That he sets up his owne will above the Ordinances of Parliament which gives you power to choose your owne Elders and leaves it not to his perverse will and pleasure and againe he supersedes all the rest of the Triers and Judges for the Ordinance refers the Tryall and approbation to nine men or any fix of them And Secondly he exalts himselfe above God and his Ordinances in saying peremptorily againe and againe I will never be reconciled for Gods word commands and his servants beseech the contrary wherefore I pray said he observe what an unworthy Elder and Judge you have chosen to governe you for his opposition is not so much against me as against you all for your yea is his nay and you claime a Publique interest in me but he denies it you from the which to be excused tends to my particular ease and freedome and truly as this his beginning was vile and corrupt so his prosecution abundantly exceeded in hatred and malice for in all hast he caused divers exceptions to be drawn up against him which he pretended to be scandalous both in practise and Judgement and upon summons the accused appeared and after their Clerk had read the exceptions he required a Copy of them which being denyed by the Prolocutor which afterwards through much importunitie was obtained he then presently disclaimed and disavowed so many of them as tended to practise and that most of them were false in many respects and requiring them to proceed by the rule limited to a year before for the time the enumeration in the Ordinance for the particular matters and two honest Christians at least for evidence doe you tell us of the rule wee should walk by say they we would have you know we are not tyed to the letter of the rule but the meaning of it is left to our judgements I hear you said he but I never heard before of a mystical humane Law I tel you all plainly that if you wave the letter of the Ordinance of Parliament which is your direction to trie me by then I would have you know I have as much power to try you all as you all have to trie me and added that he was sorry to finde them so unlimited and arbitrary in their proceedings and because the exceptions in practise were vaine and frivolous and no way ordered by the Ordinance I will not now mention them but referre them to another day of hearing and proceed to give you a Breviate of the Exceptions touching scandalous judgement The first was that he had affirmed That the first day of the weeke was not commanded in Gods word to be a Sabbaoth He answered I have so affirmed and if it be an errour so to say then shew me it commanded in the word of God to which they did not reply but proceeded and said it was further objected against him that he denied the moralitie of the Sabbaoth He said before I can properly and clearely answer you I must aske you a question what you meane by Sabbaoth whether the signe or the thing signified And also what you meane by moralitie because I do not finde the terme in our English tongue used in the Scripture The Prolocutor or Moderator being at a pause I answered I affirme that the command of the seventh day extended not to the Christian Gentiles and I think you are all of my mind or else you would observe and not prophane it as you doe Secondly I do hold that which the seventh dayes rest did signifie doth remaine and continue to the end of the world and in some respects forever also and pulling out a Bible out of my pocket read part the of third and fourth Chapters of the Hebrews and opened to them those Scriptures that speak of the Sabbaoth or rest of God before mentioned also by the Prophets David and Isaiah saying To day if you will heare his voice harden not your hearts least you enter not into his rest c. And againe Wee that have believed have entred into his rest and have ceased from our workes as God did from his proving to them by
the Scriptures that the rest that remained unto the people of God was a spirituall rest and not a corporall and you that are Ministers here said he know well enough that it is concluded in the harmony of all Christian Churches their confessions that the command for sanctifying the first day of the weeke is an Ordinance of the Church but they being weary of his exposition and exhortation they replyed little and less to the purpose but proceeded to further exceptions and said that he was accused for affirming that divine examples doe not alwayes binde the conscience of a Christian to which he answerered that in saying so he said no more then what themselves justified for said he there is a divine example that the baptizer and the baptized descended personally into the water together and you baptizers follow not this holy example they replyed it was not the custome of this Country Behold said he your hands and your tongue and all that you doe is against you to justifie that to be lawfull in your selves which very thing you accuse in me for a scandalous exception These and such like they debated some three or foure houres but I will not tell you for shame how shamefully they parted from my Friend least you should be ashamed to heare it But to put a face upon the businesse they summoned him twise or thrise afterwards to make him wait but they durst not dispute and he finding their delayes were to the Parishes prejudice in their right and for their satisfaction he made the case knowne to that worthy and now Right Honourable Counsellour whose place is too high to declare his name in so low a discoverie as this yet I cannot doe lesse then tell you his judgement was that the Triers had much wronged the accused in not bringing his accusers face to face according to Ordinance of Parliament in such cases provided and commanded him to tell them so from him which Message he delivered to them the next time they sate which when they heard they told him they did not believe him wherupon he required them as they had power to take an Oath so they would give him his Oath to confirme the truth of it and when they would not required what answer he should returne to him that sent him they said that they could not approve of him to be an Elder he desired their reasons and their hands for his removing that the Parish might choose another all which they unworthily denyed him notwithstanding the Ordinance required them If such grosse injuries as these through selfishnesse and carnalitie have been done by the best and choicest Presbyters by the Judgers and Triers such as were heedfully and consideratly appointed by immediate Authority of Parliament and if it be so with the best what can wee expect from the choice of the multitude both Parochiall and Classicall of which if I had but time to tell you would make both your eares to tingle to heare what ignorance contradictions nonsense impentenency they are guilty of besides their Pride vaine glorie and hypocrisie yet a hint of it you shall have in the Chapter following The second sort of English Presbyters are such as take upon them the name of the former and are in some practises like them but wholly without institution by Authority of Parliament who in their practise heed not but are opposers both of the Law of God and Man therefore The third Chapter discovereth the conceited fancies of such as have no authority for their practise but their owne inventions FIrst for the constitution of their Church-Officers they minde not the Ordinances before mentioned thereby to be made capeable for election nor to be impowered being elected and allowed but according to their owne inventions goe on in the name of Presbyterians and choose Elders and Deacons whereas the Parliament knew well that the Office of Deacons was sufficiently already provided for by divers Acts and Statutes under the name of Church-Wardens and Over-seers for the poore and therefore have wholly left out that sort of Church-Officers in their Ordinances thereby giving us a cleare evidence that they never intended to destroy Parochiall Congregations as these men unwarily doe but to reedefie and repaire them by adding a helpfull carefull and watchfull Office of Elders to those Officers that were formerly although they prove not as they were intended and such as doe thus practise a Presbyterian way in the Parochiall Congregations not authorised as aforesaid it is so farre from being beneficiall as that it will prove wholly prejudiciall and it tends more to a Teaching sense of the supreame Judicature of this Common-wealth then of obedience Of selfishnesse in judgement then of sincerity of Engagement for if such as were ordained prove not to the purpose what can we expected of them that ordaine themselves and if those faile that are regulated what can wee looke for from such whose rule is their will how helplesse are the people that submit to them that are not provided for to appeale from them to free them from the wrongs they shall doe them what defence shall a Christian have from amongst them for speaking the truth in reproofe of their false Doctrine you may judge what they will doe with you hereafter by what they doe and have done heretofore have they chosen themselves have they set up themselves above their Brethren what good fruit can you expect from such evill Plants and the choice they made was so strange and new that as there is no example to Paralell it so there is scarce a dialect to expresse it without smiling at it that such an unanimous people such a great corporation and constant communicants so that I know not a more fuller or willing Congregation in this Common-wealth for frequenting Gods publique Ordinances for these to be denyed the Lords Supper for five yeares together by the same Teacher that all on a sudden through imposing a new fancie of his owne devising neither warranted by the Law of God or man but destructive to both yet all that now would follow and daunce after his pipe should be admitted to that he had so long time detained yet now also publiquely declared that all that would not ob●y his humane invention should not presume to come to the communion and thus he conceived and brought forth vanity for being in the pulpit desiring the people to meet him next morning in the Church and some fourscore of many hundreds appearing to him he then taught them a necessity of believing his humane conceiving to be sound doctrine and then and there to choose a Minister and Church-Officers of their own devising And the first question he askt them was who they would choose for their Minister and with one voice they chose himself a fair Election to choose one out of one and he being chosen in such an unwarantable manner as this and accepting thereof he told them that as they had made choice of their