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A69592 An apologie concerning perfection being a fundamentall answer and reply upon Esaiah Stiefel his exposition of four texts of the Holy Scripture written in the year 1622 ... / by Jacob Behme, also called Teutonicus philosophus ; Englished by John Sparrow.; Vom Irrthum der Secten Esaiae Stiefels und Ezechiel Meths. English Böhme, Jakob, 1575-1624.; Sparrow, John, 1615-1665? 1661 (1661) Wing B3415; ESTC R14771 119,599 158

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in Christs death and put on HIS Resurrection out of the GRAVE That the Man which dyeth according to Flesh in the Limit which God hath set or appointed viz at the Last DAY should ARISE out of Christs Death 79. He hath given us his Death and Buriall for a REST where the OUTWARD Body resteth from the working of vanity as in a meek soft Sleep 80. But what this Authour sets down concerning the opposition of the totall fleshly Man that the Earthly Man which he calleth the Serpents Seed despiseth contemneth derideth and persecuteth Christ in his Members and continually crucifieth and putteth them to death together with Christ that is so and cannot otherwise be 81. For when Christ is become born then the Man of Sinne in his self-hood MUST dye the Faithfull Man becometh himself an Enemy of his own Sinnes in the Flesh the Faithfull Man according to the Heavenly Substance is indeed yea undeniably the Bride of CHRIST in whom Christ dwelleth that I contradict not 82. But that this Authour sets it down that Christ was born a poor despised Infant in the highest Lowlinesse out of MARY and yet was equall in the Height of the Triune God and LORD there he should better explain it and shew wherein he is the Triune God and LORD 83. Not according to the Creature viz according to our Flesh and Soul which is Eternally under or beneath God but according to his Divine and according to the Heavenly Substantiality and Corporeity wherewith he came from Heaven and took our Substance upon him 84. The divine Substance is unmeasurable BOTH according to Spirit and Corporeall Substance but our humane Substance is measurable to our humane Substance the Power or Authority is given but to the divine nothing CAN be given 85. God will judge the humanity through the voyce of the humanity of Christ so that the humanity of Christ according to our humanity is the Instrument to do it with Not that our humanity in Christs Person and Creature hath the power or authority out of it self 86. It is a given power or authority from the Father As Christ himselfe saith ALL Power or Authority in Heaven and upon Earth is given me of my Father Matth 28. Not to the self-hood of the Creature that the Creature is as Omnipotent and self powerfull as GOD but that the CREATURE is the Instrument whereby the Spirit of God will Judge and separate ALL things 87. The Spirit of the Holy Trinity IN the Creature is the will and the Creature is the Instrument of performance as through a cleer visible open Image and Substance seeing God hath manifested himself through the Creature therefore through the Creature also he produceth a Manifested or revealed authority or power and Dominion 18. As an Artist fitteth an Instrument of Musick and himself strikes or playes upon it that it may sound and give melody to him SUCH as he would sain HEAR Thus also in like manner the Creature is Gods Instrument upon which God striketh or playeth and hath introduced his own sound out of the divine voyce into this Creaturely Lute which soundeth and Melodizeth to him 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 will 89. This Lute doth not play upon it self for CHRIST saith also All whatsoever the Sonne seeth the Father do that the Sonne doth also And the word which I speak to you is not mine but the Fathers who dwelleth in me Also I and the Father are One but the Father is greater than I. 90. The Father is the Eternall Beginning and the Sonne is the Eternall Begun viz the Manifestation of that Spirit which is called Father and the Holy Spirit is that which the Father through the Sonne Manifesteth with the Eternall outspoken wisdome out of the sound which the Father with the Sonne Generateth 91. The Sonne is the Fathers sound or word and the Creature is the cleer or Loud manifested word through which the Father in the Eternall Generating of his holy word soundeth or speaketh 〈◊〉 hear the Creature viz the voyce of the Person CHRIST then I hear what the Father in his holy sound in the exit of his Holy Spirit manifesteth and expresseth in and with the Creature 92. Here it is not called beloved Woman or Wife with or as to the Creature but Gods Image Gods Manifestation Gods manifest Dominion Gods own Doing or self-acting viz the invisible and incomprehensible acting through a visible comprehensible image and Substance of his own propriety 93. For without God there is Nothing HE alone is ALL but all whatsoever is perceptible or comprehensible that is only an Image of the Invisible Divine Substance wherewith the Invisible hath Manifested or revealed it self 94. Therefore the Creature should NOT say of it self that it self is any thing but introduce its ability into THAT out of which it is originated that it may be the Omniscient Gods work and play or Melody in his Love that it may do what he will and SO God be ALL in ALL. 95. And if God will do any thing through his Creature and manifest his will then speaketh not the Creature from or of it self but saith Thus saith the LORD thus hath the Lord spoken this is the Command of the Lord and not esteem it self at all to be the speaking Word or divine Sound also not say with this outward Body that the outward Body is espoused with Gods Holinesse as this Authour sets it down 96. The inward Man is indeed together with or in Gods Harmony through which God soundeth and Singeth and is a Wedding-Place or City of God but all whatsoever is Creaturely is tinder or beneath that which hath made the Creature The Creature is Gods Artifice or workmanship which he hath made through his wisdome for it is the Nature it standeth in the Principle viz in a Beginning but God standeth in NONE God is without all Beginning his desire maketh Beginning 97. But what this Authour saith concerning the woman of Faithfull Flesh and Bloud is not spoken plain enough to be understood For Flesh and Bloud beleeveth not but the Spirit Flesh and Bloud is a House of the Spirit 98. And what he also setteth down concerning the Man CHRIST who is in the Marriage with the Woman cannot at all be spoken of the outward Flesh and Bloud of this Life time for Christ is himself the Woman and the Man God and Man 99. Of the Inward Man it may WELL be spoken that is in the Marriage with Christ but the Outward is in the Marriage with the Outward World and with the vanity and Sinne as also with Death and Corruptibility weaknesse sicknesse and Misery THAT is called Eve and not the Marriage City of God in Gods holinesse as this Authour saith it is 100. But a waste Tabernacle wherein the Spirit is perished understand the Outward Spirit which dwelleth in Flesh and Bloud not that we would or should DESPISE the Spirit viz the Soul of the Great