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B20542 Believers-baptism from heaven, and of divine institution Infants-baptism from earth, and human invention. Proved from the commission of Christ, the great law-giver to the gospel-church. With a brief, yet sufficient answer to Thomas Wall's book, called, Baptism anatomized. Together with a brief answer to a part of Mr. Daniel William's catechism, in his book unto youth. By Hercules Collins, a servant of the servants of Christ. Collins, Hercules, d. 1702. 1691 (1691) Wing C5360; ESTC R224066 50,763 158

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for Men go down into the Sea So accordingly it was practised in the Apostles Time they went down into the Water which if it had not been to be dipp'd in it they need to have gone only unto it therefore how vain is that he asserts John baptized standing at the brink of the River Jordan pag. 8. This is to contradict the Word of God which saith plainly Philip and the Eunuch went both down into the Water not to the brink of it and came up out of the Water In pag. 4 5. his great Ordnance by which he thinks to do the most Execution is from 1 Cor. 10.1 2. where it is said All our Fathers were baptized unto Moses in the Cloud and in the Sea Answer 1. Consider it is said the Fathers not the Children were baptized 2. If you will have it the Children also then you must include there Beasts and Cattel for the Cloud poured Water upon them all 3. Where-ever the word Baptism is used whether it be applied to the Spirit to Sufferings or to Water it always sheweth some large measure of all So here they were baptized in the Cloud and in the Sea not properly baptized for that Ordinance was not in use then but the scope of that place is the Apostle thought fit to borrow that word Baptize for to show God's gracious protection of them in the Red-Sea as in the Wilderness he fed them with Manna from Heaven and gave them Water out of a Rock So he left them not in the Red-Sea but encompassed them about in safety by his Divine Providence with Water on each side of them and the Cloud over them as Persons are encompassed with that Element when baptized Again for the true understanding of the Word we must have recourse to the common Acceptation of it and not imagine the Spirit of God doth contradict the common Acceptation of Words among Men. When the Prophets wrote by Inspiration and the Apostles they always used such words as were vulgar and commonly accepted amongst Men so that the common acceptation of the Hebrew word Tabal among the Hebrews and Baptizo among the Greeks always signifying to dip there being other words to signify sprinkle or pour How then can pouring Rain from the Cloud be called Baptism as John Wall would needs have it though he beg for it because it can never be proved see my Book pag. 16 17. And is he not full of audacity or boldness to tell the World in pag. 8. That there is not one word that any by John or Philip were dipped when the very word properly signifieth dipping Hence the Dutch call John the Dooper And our Translators might as well have rendred baptize dip in all the places where it is as to render Judas sopt dipp'd and Christ's Vesture dipp'd in Blood being all from the same Original Word And whereas he tells the World pag. 16 17. Though the Scripture say they baptized in Aenon because there was much Water He saith It would not be enough to dip half the Body in 1. I suppose he never was there to see it but speaks by an implicit Faith 2. Common sense directs us to believe there was need of much Water to the due performance of that Ordinance or else the Holy Spirit would not have mentioned it as commodious for that Work because much Water there a little Water will sprinkle hundreds but much Water is necessary unto the due performance of this Ordinance of Baptism because it must be so done as to figure out the Death Burial and Resurrection of Christ Now I would fain know how sprinkling or pouring Water upon the Face doth figure out Christ's Death Burial and Resurrection Rom. 6.1 2 4. In pag. 9. how disingenuously doth he deal with Coloss 2.12 We are buried with Christ in Baptism To follow their natural Fancy saith he the Person buried is wholly passive and must be taken in Arms laid upon the Water then Water cast upon him till covered as Earth is upon the Dead Answer This way of discourse is a kind of trifling with God's Word You are to know Similitudes do not run upon all four as we say but respect must alway be had to the chief intent and design of a Metaphor which in this Text is to hold forth the Death Burial and Resurrection of Christ for our Justification and also holds forth our Death to Sin and Resurrection to a new Life This being the prime scope of the Apostle his way of discourse is nothing but to evade the strength of the Argument Whereas in pag. 10. he saith The Person baptizeth part of himself because he goeth into the Water We answer That is false because he doth not lay himself down in the Water but that is done by the Administrator he lays him along as one buried under the Water his whole Body not the upper part only to figure out Christ's lying in the Grave for as the Persons stands upright in the Water that is not Baptism but when laid along under the Water by the Administrator using the words of Institution I baptize thee in the Name of the Father Son and Holy Ghost this is Baptism In pag. 14. he saith The Person is not baptized but his Cloaths Those things are not becoming Modesty to discourse of Let that vain Man know we do not baptize the Cloaths in the Name of the Blessed Trinity but the Person and should we baptize otherwise I fear this poor Man would be the first would reproach the Interest of Christ upon that account Whereas he chargeth B. K. pag. 80. with the whole Assembly of Baptized Believers that they were forced to try their Wits for want of those literal words Remember you keep holy the First Day Answ Our Arguments for observing the First Day do greatly satisfy our Consciences being grounded upon the Word of God Also our Arguments against Pedobaptism and for Believers Baptism also being proved from the same Divine Revelation But alas how are Men put at their Wits end to find Arguments for Pedobaptism or else they would never prefer a dark Consequence before a plain Command which is beneath the Reason of a Man nor run to the Law to prove a Gospel-Ordinance and reject God's Institution and set up Man's Invention Could he say as much for Pedobaptism as we can for the Lord's Day the Controversy would not have held so long Could he give us such Examples of Infant-Baptism as we can for our religious observing that Day we shall give him thanks And whereas in pag. 104. he quarrels because we do not Baptize always upon the First Day We do not judg we are confin'd to that Day The Lord's Supper Christ himself did institute it and practise it with his Apostles on another Day than the First Day of the Week Although we do grant it is very commendable to do such Work on such Days when retired from our Labour yet we do not think we are confin'd to that Day for
before he examined them of Repentance and Faith in the Messiah to come 5. To Baptize unto Repentance the sense can be nothing else than my Baptism being the Baptism of Repentance I Baptize them for my Baptism is the Baptism of Repentance I must see something of that else I have no Commission to Baptize 6. Penitent Souls may well be said to be Baptized unto Repentance Should I say Sir Walter Rawleigh was beheaded in Palace-Yard and made an excellent Speech none would understand that he spoke after he was dead because Beheaded is first and Speech after c. So tho John say I baptized to Repentance it could not be he baptized first because he required Repentance and Faith according to Christ's Commission as necessary to Baptism because 't is an every day's Work after his Baptism to amend and reform However John's words may be placed the scope of the Place sheweth they must repent before they were baptized because when the Pharisees and Sadduces came to his Baptism that is to be baptized said he O Generation of Vipers bring forth first Fruits meet for Repentance or unto or according to the nature of true Repentance and then I will baptize you and not without it Object 21. Water-Baptism is John's Baptism Paul was not sent to Baptize We have the Substance we need not the Shadow we are baptized with the Spirit we need not that of Water I Answer Cornelius and his Houshold were baptized with the Holy Ghost to that degree as they spake with Tongues Acts 10. yet thought it not beneath them to submit to Christ's blessed Ordinance of Water-Baptism I know not but this Scripture may be an everlasting Testimony against some which pretend to the Spirit who have it in that degree as now Cornelius and his Houshold Where the Spirit is Acts 10.44 to 48. there is Obedience to the Command I marvel any who pretend to great degrees of the Spirit should call God's Ordinances Shadows and Shells Is it a Command of Christ and a Shadow did Christ ever call it so Thou may'st as well say all other Ordinances are Shadows as Prayer Preaching c. And where wilt thou run is it a Command hath it a Divine Stamp if so dispute not Christ's Authority Are you wiser than he who subjected himself to it or can you think you have more of the Spirit than him who had it without measure and yet was was baptized in Water Whereas it is Objected Christ sent not * Bullinger in his House-book saith of 1 Cor. 1.17 'T is not slightly to be understood as if Paul was not sent to baptize at all but that Teaching should go before Baptism for the Lord commanded both Teaching and Administring Sacraments Paul to Baptize but to Preach Paul did baptize several either he did it by Commission or Presumption surely not by the latter therefore the former His meaning is that Baptism was not his first and principal Work he was sent to preach and Baptism fell in as a part of his Preaching-Office None are fit for Gospel-Ordinances until they have the Spirit of God Doth Cornelius and his House submit to Water-Baptism after Baptized eminently with the Spirit then that can be no Argument we are Baptized with the Spirit and need no Water This is cleared by our Lord's Word who said I am not sent but to the lost Sheep of the House of Israel not but he came also to be a Light to the Gentiles he was first to preach to them hence called the Minister of the Circumcision And whereas Water-Baptism is called John's Baptism I query the Baptism of John Was it from Heaven or of Men If from Heaven as it was for God sent him to Baptize then let all keep silent I know no difference between John's Baptism and that Christ gave his Apostles but that the former Baptized in the Name of Christ to come the latter in his Name being come Whereas some urge John said He must decrease Christ increase This hath no reference to the ceasing of Gospel-Ordinances but unto the Splendor and Glory of Christ in the World above what John's was in Holiness and Miracles for John did no Miracle John 10.41 Object 22. There are no fit Administrators therefore for the present Sacraments and Church-Ordinances cease I Answer When Christ gave Commission to Preach he gave Power in the same to Baptize Mat. 28. How comes this to pass that those very Persons which thus object do Preach which requires as great Ability and Sanctity to the due performance of the one as of the other I know some object that Commission Mat. 28. lasted no longer than to the end of that Age. To which I Answer Then Preaching ended too Christ commands his Disciples to teach all Nations all things which he commanded them Now Christ's Commands were Holiness Repentance and Faith was this to be no longer than to the end of that Age was Christ's Promise of his Presence but to the end of that Age this would be uncomfortable Doctrine The Promise is I will be with you to the end of the World the Learned know it 's the same original Word as in Matth. 13.39 40. where it is said The Harvest is the end of the World As the Tares are gathered together and burnt in the Fire so shall it be in the end of the World All conclude I think or ought that this hath respect to the final end of all things 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 this being the same word in Mat. 28. We conclude teaching the Gospel baptizing them which are taught and the gracious Presence of Christ If Baptism ended in the Apostles Age then preaching of Repentance Faith and Holiness ceased also because all in the same Commission Yea the promise of Christ's Presence must cease also in the end of that Age a more uncomfortable Doctrine cannot be is to remain in his Church till the World's end that is till the final end of all things Moreover Paul asserts Ephes 3.21 that Christ will have a Church and glory in the Churches throughout all Ages World without end From whence I argue if God have a Church in all Ages he must have Ordinances there because no Church of Christ can be constituted without them If there be Ordinances in the Church in all Ages there must be some to administer them or else they would be insignificant But that he hath fit Administrators in the Church and will have Paul asserts in Ephes 4.12 13. He gave some Apostles some Prophets some Evangelists some Pastors and Teachers For what end for the perfecting of the Saints for the Work of the Ministry for the edifying the Body of Christ How long till we all come to the Vnity of the Faith and of the Knowledg of the Son of God unto a perfect Man unto the measure of the Fulness of Christ Let Men take heed how they put a slight upon the Ordinances of God in crying up the Spirit with