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B04134 Cum bono deo. A remonstrance to the Godly party. Two maine quæries, which stand much usefull fo these our times. ... And a vindication of both. / By Andrew Logie sometime Arch-Deane of Aberdene; Penned by the author, ann. 1654, and printed 1661. Logie, Andrew. 1661 (1661) Wing L2840; ESTC R180013 29,338 52

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cover all nakednes blemishes or defects whatsomever It was the balme of Gilead and The tree of the twelve manner of fruits The grave learned and judicious Cōmissioners of our Church have sufficiently and fully vindicated and asserted this Tenet and confirmed the lawfulnesse thereof in the Case set downe from the universall uncontroverted practise of all Christian Kingdomes and approbation hereof by the unanimous consent and judgement of all the soundest protestant Divines in the Case of just and necessarie defence against forraign invasion From the very law of Nature which no positive law of man can infirme or infringe calling us hereunto binding and obliedging every Member of the politick bodie of a Kingdome to endeavour to the uttermost the good and preservation of the whole and allowing the Body yea laying an obligation upon such as are in Eminency or in Power to call for this help and assistance at the hands of every Member yea and bearing no small guilt upon such as shall prove deficient and shall withdraw their ayd and assistance in such an exigence as betrayers of their Trust AND last from Gods Word holding out unto us innumberable cleare and sufficient warrants for approving of this Practise For re-collection Is this practise justifiable from and by the very law of Nature who can prove so farre denatured here as to maligne the same Stands it justifiable by Gods Word Then what man can prove so impudent and dare make so bold as to seclude and disclude whom God admits I beleeve That where God hath not a mouth to speak man should not have an eare to heare Optimus sobrietatis terminus est Deo loquendi finem faciente sapere velle desinere It is not safe to co-argue Gods Wisdom of folly Verum vero semper consonat vos vobis constate But because I finde as yet not a few pestred and infected with this leaven of the Pharisees I finde me necessitated to speak a little more fully of this Matter and to contribute my poore mite out of a willing and free minde for the use of this Tabernacle for why may it not justly seem lawfull to these vel Taurū è farina fingere qui praetenui peculio vitulum vivum divis elustrare nequeunt Is it not notourly known That some works of Necessity which not unfitly is indigitated Lex temporis The Law of time become justifiable which extra hunc casum without this case would cease to be such as the Disciples their plucking eares of corne on the Sabbath day Davids eating of Shew bread which was onely lawfull for the Priests Now who dare prove so impudent as to deny an urgent and pressing necessity here so that it can not be in reason challenged of any unlawfulnesse Is it rather wisely or safely done by us out of uncertaine praeconceived dangers yea and but fears of such and these evitable too from fellow-subjects to cast our selves into seene and certaine dangers of a forraign Enemy Let me pose you here If a King can be in reason denied the common benefite of the law of the Subject Now shall subjects without challenge make use promiscuously of fellow-subjects yea and against their Native KING and shall we condemne this fact in His Sacred Person to make promiscuous vse of His subjects both in His own just and necessarie defence and theirs too O for an impartiall Judge to decide this controversie aright are we not bound and tyed both by League and Covenant to mantaine the KINGS just Greatnesse the liberty of the Subject and shall we comply with Enemies to both to the subversion of both Shall we make so great Conscience foresooth of the meanest heads and articles of our sworne unto Covenant and none of this maine one If these fiery Zelots had lived in Christs and his Apostles their dayes doubtlesse they would have envyed and maligned the accession of so many thousand soules to the Church in one day who maligned so the receiving in of bare Nuncupative Malignants into the bosome of their Army Certes These differ much in practise from that of Christs in receiving in of Publicans and sinners May not these Hote-spirited seeme most justly to be altogether ignorant of the nature properties of love set downe I. Cor. 13.4.5.6.7.8 verses Shall Christ weeping over Hierusalem professe his great carefulnesse and earnestnesse to gather her Children notwithstanding of their great waywardnes untowardnes frowardnes as an Hen gathereth her Chickens under her wings Matth. 23.37 and shall we be more propense and bently set for dispersion and scattering then gathering Shall Christ professe this to be the End of His coming into the World to seek the lost sheepe to bring againe what had gone astray and shall these who would singularly acclaime this Prerogative to themselves as that they stand solly his Ministers amidst a cōmon defection vouchsafe no pains here It fears me The Scribs Pharisees compassing sea dry land to gaine in a Proselyte shall rise up in judgement against our strictest rigide and violent Reformers and condemne their carelesse and sinfull neglect here and fiery and violent procedure God is said to be 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 A God of long Nostrills and so is slow to anger gentle and easie to be appeased but these quite contrarie to Gods Naturall partake onely in the evill both of the Cholerian and the Melancholian they are short spirited soone set on fire edge but their wrath is not easily quenched and abated they prove implacable Edomits against their brother Jacob yea Novatians veniam omnem denegant lapsis for I heard this expression from some of their mouths That they could sooner and readier comply with a Turk then with a Malignant 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 hîc 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 no lesse irreconcilable enmity then twixt the seed of the Woman and the seed of the Serpent but I spare you studens Correctioni parcens pudori I could wish these holy Zelots to shew me warrants from Scripture the safest Rule and surest Directory Where a KING Iudge or Ruler is reproved for making promiscuous use of his subjects for the defence of the People of God and making warre upon their Enemies Nay and on the contrary wee see them sadly reproved for their neglect and omission here Hitherto Iudg. 5.23 Curse ye Meroz said the Angel of the Lord curse ye bitterly the inhabitants therof because they came not to the help of the Lord to the help of the Lord against the mighty Did not Gideon a Iudge of Gods own designation choosing and sending out in his might Make an Ephod and put in Ophrah his City after which all Israel went a-whoring and which thing became a snare unto him and to his house and tended to their destruction Iudg. 8.27 Now did the people from hence with our fiery Zelots refuse to go under his conduct or yet receive from his hands or by his means many notable deliverances Nay was not the Countrey in safety and
and admit a division or partage in the Wages or Reward IT fears me and that well justly too That in this case the strictest of you would not prove deficient to themselves but would endeavour themselves to finde out a new glosse on the words and make up a new Commentary as I am no lesse assured on the other hand That these our well Ruling-Elders with us to day would be no lesse ready to acclaime to their right and interest in this Reward if they should finde any sure or firme basis whereupon to ground their Challenge and Claim 5. Some no slenderly expert in the originall language averre That after 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 there would be required the adversative particle 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to import a necessarie distinction 6. Some no lesse expert in this original language arcesse some ground of reason from off of the accents and grammaticall spirits to infirme and weaken this distinction or classing But I love not to straine apiculations in grāmatications Thus this very passage wherin tantum ponunt praesidij they place the full force and strength of their CAUSE petit jugulum causae it cuts the throat of their Cause and so unde illi vitam nos mortem This poor wandering Levite must harbour and rest with the Godly Party forsooth finding no where else in Heaven or upon Earth an harbouring or sheltering place No wonder that such a Heterogenious body compacted of such dissimilary parts should suffer such a sudden dissolution Thus it is evident that we must needs go elswher to seek out their generation then from Gods Word or yet sound Antiquity In a word they were 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 foetus necessitatis the birth and brood of Necessity for we find no use for them to day except in such a case where a bussines or work in hand cannot be effectuated and brought to passe but by the subsidiary help of their suffrage Majori parte vincente saniorem which else in reason or by force of Argument would fall short May it not justly seeme according to Gamaliel his decision in a congener case That this Counsell or this work hath not been of God but of men Act. 5.38.39 seing it is so soon come to nought for there is no use of them now their worke being accomplished which they intended or in case of any new emergent bussines calling for their subsidiary help to hold up that ruinous and decaying Fabrick and structure so that for the best they are but Nocturni Fungi ex nocturna pluvia nati or an untimous birth and abortion no sooner brought to light then expired THE SECOND QVAERE THe Second Quaere is If our Cōmission of Church did rightlie determine anent the receiving in of Nuncupative Malignants into the bosome of their Army to fight pro Patria pro aris et focis for KING Countrey Religion Lives Liberties Fortunes in such a nick of time and exigence of affairs against Forraigne invasion of so dangerous an Enemy infesting the whole Kingdom and seeking to overturne and raze all frō the very foundation or pronounced therein Clave errante Numerò If that stood an Vnlawfull Engagement with the Godly Party or men of godly understanding IT marvels mee not a little how the Question can be thus stated and modelled whereas adhuc sub Judice lis est which of these two contesting Parties Herodians or Pharisees so to speak should be thus branded with the Note of Malignancy I beleeve That Veritas which is Filia temporis TRUETH which stands the daughter of time hath given us some farther light and clearer insight in this bussinesse For how have they I pray you acquitted thēselves here who were so much cryed up for sole men of known integrity Have they not detected to the world their deepe masked hypocrisie and so bred more nor just matter of jealousie in the hearts of all these who are of truly godly understanding Coelum et terram hîc in testes advocare possem 2. Is it not strange That our new start up Protestators should so maligne men under this name and notion of Malignancy whereas they roundly professe their ignorance here of the true Notes and marks from whence they may be discerned and dignosced as the Desire or Petition put up by them The sole Nuncupative Godly Party or men of Godly understanding to that Venerable Assembly at Edinburgh anno 52. for their information hereanent in their 3. Proposition bears instructs to the full Now is it not more nor strange That they should have so maligned men under this name and notion whereas it is not yet conveened upon and condescended what stand these Notes and marks Vbi nulla lex ibi nulla trāsgressio where there is no Law there can be no Transgression May it not justly seeme That Malignancy receives subinde new Notes and Characters or Marks according to the various revolution of Cases and exigence of times or rather men their brain-sick apprehended fancies Nonne haec Ecclesia in Maligno posita est Et quae non animā justè odit coetum hujusmodi Malignantium 3. I would gladly understand the Reason or discrepance here where I promise to yeeld my self docil and teachable Why the Non-conformists at first These who found not themselves fully satisfied with the publick Resolutions of our Church whiles this work was but in it Infancy as it were and so when as I beleeve it stood more veniall and pardonable to have scrupled theranent were branded with this Note of Infamy and Reproach yea and most cruelly persecuted as it wer with fire and sword And the Non-conformists now so avowedly protesting against all their publick Resolutions and opposing themselves with an high hand when this work is come to a perfection to the stature of a Perfect man shall not onely go unbranded but go under the name of the Godly Party or men of godly understanding and shall go over these dangerous rocks without the least Jacture or Naufrage yea turgidis velis vento secnudo nay and should be sealed in their fore-heads with a Noli me tangere What! Is your so glorious a Sun come to so sudden a declining How is the faithfull City become a harlote how is your silver become drosse and your wine mixed with water how is the strong staffe broken and the beautifull Rod I dare be bold to averre That the Approbation at first of the publick Resolutions of Church stood to many Cyphers both in State and Church who in effect stood more expletive then significative Their best qualification and endowment yea stood the sole means of their advancement to the highest roomes in both A blind Obedience out of an implicite faith stood for all qualifications else and an approven and evidenced activity to promove the great glorious worke in hand This was Panchrestū panacaea a soveraign salve against all sores Omnibus malis averrumcandis pollens Alexipharmacum yea vestis talaris a faire and goodly rob to