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A62298 An antidote against Quakerisme wherein these following questions are opened, the truth concerning them proved, the contrary arguments examined and confuted ... / by Stephen Scandrett ... Scandrett, Stephen, 1631?-1706. 1671 (1671) Wing S817; ESTC R34024 108,858 138

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moment be liable to the everlasting wrath of God 2. Gods good end in giving this Light is to reveal moral duties and sins against nature that avoiding these sins and practising these duties we might be delivered from temporal judgements as Nineveh was and might enjoy the Lords common savours 3. Gods gracious end in giving us the Scriptures is that seeing and embracing Christ Righteousness and Gods Mercy in him our souls might sincerely be reconciled to his Will and so living to God we might be sure of mercy favour and salvation Arg. 8. They usually bring that Scripture Luke 17.21 Behold the Kingdom of God is with you Answ Gods Kingdom is to be considered either as to the Common or as to the special Administration of it 1. As to the Common and this is whereby God doth restrain convince make offers of Christ and Grace and sometimes give a taste of the heavenly gift by the preaching of the word and the common operation of the spirit carrying the word into the Consciences of men for the word of God is quick and powerful piercing to the dividing asunder of the Soul and Spirit God had so set up his Kingdom in them as he had not in the Heathen They are therefore called the Children of the Kingdom Mat. 8.12 Of the Kingdom only in this common Administration of it for they were to be cast out and the Kingdom of God was to be taken from them 2. As to the special Administration of it and this is whereby God awakens souls unites them to Christ by a lively Faith makes them willing subjects and stablishing them in their obedience preserves them to glory by his word and by his spirit powerfully applying it to their hearts inlightning renewing quickning comforting and dayly assisting them God had not thus set up his Kingdom in the Pharisees for his Kingdom as to this Administration of it is not in word but in power 1 Cor. 4.20 Is not meat and drink but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Ghost Rom. 14.17 Is never to cease while the world last Dan. 7.27 Whose Kingdom is an everlasting Kingdom Hence then cannot be concluded either that there is a Light effectually saving in Pharisees or the unconverted or that there is a Light objectively saving in every man for though the Pharisees had in them such a light which if they had embraced sincerely they had been in the way to salvation yet this was forc'd into them by Christs Preaching his Miracles and the common operation of the Spirit They did not bring it into the World with them Quest It was asked me in the first dispute I shall speak according to my best remembrance I know I must give account If an heathen obey his Light may he be saved And then not having so fully seen into this point I was shy and answered I was not to Judge them that are without Quest I was afterwards asked If a man improves his Light within him may not he be saved I answered he may and added if he improves that is studieth Scripture and looketh up to God for a blessing he may That night reflecting upon his passage I was very much disturbed in my spirit because I did not more fully speak to this point laying down the manner how upon improvement he might be saved and expressing the Truth on the contrary side What might unskilful people conclude from this Assertion Next day my wife destitute and near her Travail begging with Tears that I would seek her out an habitation I could not in the least regard her I could easily embrace any self-abasement to prevent the dammage of any soul through mistake To effect this as much as might be I drew up and dispatcht a Letter to G. W. with a Paper containing the same things to Thaxted where the dispute was to be openly read among them The Letter follows A LETTER sent to G. W. Beloved Friend TOuching one Query in the Disputation whether if a man improve the Light within him may he not be saved My Answer was that if he improve it that is make use of it in studying the Scripture and look up to God for a blessing he may be saved I judge it needful to acquaint you with my meaning how he may be saved 'T is this God may I do not say certainly will much less that be is bound I disown Pelagianisme so bless him as to give him to see embrace and endeavour to practice his whole mind revealed in the Scripture that is to speak with reference to you to sanctifie the Christian Sabbath seek justification by the Righteousness of Christ imputed repent if his sinful nature and sinful motions of his heart submit to the Ordinances of Baptism and the Lords Supper and in other things universally incline his heart to please him thus may the Lord through grace save him I was defective in the Disputation that I did not manifest this so weighty a matter Yea and that I did not manifest the Truth on the other side which is this For a Person to whom Scriptures are given to practice no more then what the Light that is in every man doth dictate rejecting the Scripture as not obliging in those things that this Light doth not discover is to fling away his own salvation Arg. 1. That Person that erres in the Doctrine of Justification by Christs Righteousness only and so sets up something else instead of this Righteousness for justification cannot possibly be saved Gal. 5.4 But this Light that is in every man doth not dictate that justification is by Christs Righteousness only Arg. 2. That Person that in many things lives and dies in allowed Rebellion against the mind and will of God revealed cannot be saved But having Scriptures to practice no more then what the Light in every man doth dictate is to live and dye in allowed rebellion against the mind and will of God revealed in many things 1. This Light doth not dictate that the Christian Sabbath is to be kept but God in Scripture commands Remember the Sabbath that is one day in seven which the Lord shall chuse in Gospel times it is not the seventh from the creation Let no man judge you for the Sabbath day and if it must be one of the other six which doth the Lord more clearly in Scripture point at then the first day To keep it holy do no manner of work To practice no more than what the Light that is in every man doth dictate is as good as to say I will not remember the Sabbath I will work on that day 2. This Light doth not dictate that Lusts or first motions of sinful principles much less the principles themselves are sins and so to be repented of and that we are to fly to Christ blood for pardon Rom. 7.7 But the Scripture sends us to Christ for pardon for all sin calls to repent of all sin manifesteth that the first motion to sins are sins thou shalt not
AN ANTIDOTE AGAINST Quakerisme Wherein these Following QUESTIONS Are Opened the Truth concerning them Proved the contrary Arguments Examined and Confuted Whether the Scriptures or the Light in every man be our Rule to Heaven Whether the Light in every man be a Saving Light Here Something also concerning Immediate Teaching Whether Perfection viz. a State free from all Sin be attainable in this Life Whether Baptism with Water be an Ordinance of Christ binding us Whether the Supper be an Ordinance of Christ binding us Whether Justification be by the Righteousness of Christ imputed By Stephen Scandrett Minister of Gods Word 1 Cor. 3.13 Every mans works shall be made manifest for the Day shall declare it because it shall be revealed by fire and the fire shall try every mans work of what sort it is London Printed for Tho. Parkhurst at the Bible and Three Crowns in Cheapside near Mercers Chappel 1671. TO THE GODLY READER A Brief Account of Two Disputations between George Whitehead Robert Ludgater c. Quakers and the Author BEing informed of the great number of Quakers in and about Old-Samford and considering the destructive Opinions of those that teach among them the certain eternal ruine of them if in all things they should believe and practise according to the Doctrine of some at least of these Teachers As Pauls Spirit was stirred in him when he saw the Athenians wholly given to Idolatry so my Bowels yearned towards this misguided Flock of which many I am perswaded truly breathing after Salvation are led away as those two hundred men that went after Absolom in the simplicity of their hearts and know not whither these Teachers are leading them What might be done to stop the erroneous course of this people If these that take upon them to preach among them saw the evil of their own wayes it would be a good step to the reducing of many Is it impossible that these should be informed I told a Friend that lived near the place I could willingly discourse with some of their Teachers had I an opportunity aiming only at a private Conserence About a year after this person directs two Quakers to my House with a Letter which when I opened I found that whereas I had challenged to dispute with them they required these may be the Questions c. and that time and place may be agreed upon I wondred at this Language for before the Quakers utterly disclaimed any such thing as a Challenge Yet considering that a Dispute would draw Quakers to it who are utterly averse from hearing any that preach the wholsom Doctrine of the Gospel and thus there might be an advantage of clearing up the Truths of God before them it may be the Lord will convince some of them at least and so rescue them from that destruction their Teachers are drawing them into I consented Pauls practice in the School of Tyrannus was my Encouragement and my Hope trusting in the Lord for help and setting his Glory the advancement of Truth and the salvation of souls before mine Eyes The Place being appointed the Day come George Whitehead appearing my Antagonist I demanded Whether he would grant the Scriptures to be a Truth or no This Principle being yeilded to bottom an Argument upon I required silence to begin with Prayer This was flouted at Thou hast thy God to seek Thus did he shewing a scornful proud self-confident Spirit deride the solemn Worship of God who is to be sanctified in all things especially in undertakongs of this nature in that he only can enlighten and lead us into Truth and all assembled stood in need of his teaching Gods people surely are a Generation of such as seck his face I returned not reviling for reviling I came for another purpose I further press'd for silence He continuing to dissent I did however though the more briefly seek Gods presence among his people and his Vindication of what is Truth This done Concerning the Scriptures I asserted them to be a most certain and infallible Rule He bids me prove it This was my Argument That which is given by Inspiration of God to guide us to heaven cannot but be a most certain and infallible Rule But so are the Scriptures He granted the Scriptures were given by inspiration but instead of shewing how these may deceive us notwithstanding which indeed is impossible he rambles and runs out in an impertinent Discourse as if he were preaching rather than disputing And this was his manner when to prove the Scriptures a trying Rule I urged an Argument from the example of the Bereans That which God approves of is our Duty But God approves of it that we try Doctrines by the Scripture This therefore is our duty He would not hearken to this argument nor attempt to give any answer at all to it though repeated three or four times but flies to another thing rambling tediously Indeed to prove Perfection he brought several Arguments and Scriptures one after another somewhat closely and having received distinct Answers to them he fairly ceased being unable to make good his Assertion and heard my Argument to the contrary But then grow mose tedious again in his repetitions and impertinences I was too mild towards him But when entring upon Justification I saw that he hid himself in impertinent long answers and that the day was now far spent that I might not be prevented in what I chiefly designed the discovery of the only way of Justification by Christs Righteousness imputed that people might see whither these Teachers were leading them and prevent if God saw good their everlasting damnation of body and soul I resolved I would not regard him but deliver something to the People touching this point for their instruction and safety Three Arguments I delivered and enlarged my self on them freely and fully to the People and would not be interrupted pressing them as they desired to escape condemnation at Gods Barr to look for Justification in nothing else but the righteousness of Christ imputed to fly to Christ and build only on his Blood and Righteousness as that alone that is able to satisfie God for their transgression And having done this I commended all to God by Prayer and went away The People seeing how I was hindred by this mans tedious enlargements desired another dayes dispute I told G. W. by a Letter that if he would give it in Writing that what Question is asked pertinent to the point in hand it should be answered expresly by affirming or denying it the Question being capable of such an answer I was willing to meet him a second time And that it might be lawful for others also to speak his friends and mine that so we might carry the Dispute on and the People attend through this veriety with less weariness He useth many shifts to keep off from this engagement I being peremptory knowing without this he would ramble but not dispute at length he gives this under his hand I do intend
necessary to salvation when they are by the Gospel or Scripture objectively revealed unto him 't is but a wild fancy to imagine that this Light can without the Gospel and Scripture find out and objectively reveal these spiritual Truths But when they are objectively revealed he cannot know them He who when he is plainly shewn is not apprehensive of the Mystery of a Trade would never take it of his own head Arg. 2. If this Light can objectively reveal all Truths necessary to salvation then there was no need that God should inspire holy men to write the Scripture Men might have done well enough without them are little or nothing advantaged by them The Heathen for a Rule are in as good a condition as we The Scripture reveals all Truth necessary to salvation and their Light can do this But God was not about a needless work when he inspired the Penmen of the Scripture Rom. 3.1 2. What advantage hath the Jew Much every way chiefly because that unto them were committed the Oracles of God The Heathen without the Covenants of promise are without hope Eph. 2.12 Therefore this Light doth not objectively reveal all Truths necessary to Salvation Now let us see what Arguments G. W. hath to prove that every man is enlightned with a saving Light Arg. 1. p. 28. Nehem. 9.20 26. Thou gavest them also thy good Spirit to instruct them nevertheless they rebelled Therefore all are savingly enlightned To this our Opposer gave no Answer Ans No wonder when it was never urged in my hearing The Israelites had a saving external light viz. the Spirit of God speaking in the Scriptures and in the Prophets What 's this to prove that those who have not the Scriptures have soch a Light Again The Spirit was given to instruct them but not by any effectual Illumination otherwise they had not been rebellious Their Rebellion proves they had no internal saving Light Arg. 2. p. 26. The Spirit or Light of God is greater or more universal than the Scripture and contains that which the Scripture contains and more Answ Those bare Assertions without Proof deserve to be rejected without Answer And here he confounds Light and Spirit The Light is Universal in respect of the Subject they have it that have not the Scripture not in respect of the Object it reveals not all the mind of God as doth the Scripture The Query is not what the Spirit of God can reveal he can no doubt reveal all and add to the Scripture if he please But whether he actually doth reveal all saving Truths to all Men without the Scripture This should be proved Arg. 3. p. 10. Will you deny immediate Revelation that the people might pin their faith on your sleeve Ans This man knows we direct people to the Revelation of the spirit in the Scripture therefore his own light here condemns him If I could find out any better arguments of his I would produce them But take them such as they are Arg. 4. p. 17. Christ is given to be a Light to the Gentiles and Gods salvation to the ends of the earth Answ And so Christ is externally by the Scriptures and Gospel preached and internally by his spirit effectually enlightning both wayes a saving Light to all the Gentiles that are saved Here 's nothing to prove that every man is effectually enlightned or externally taught all necessary truths by Christ immediatly and without the Scriptures Arg 5. p. 31. Whatsoever may be known of God is not manifest within Answ 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 That which is commonly known his external power and God head Not his grace favour and mercy in Christ without which all other knowledge is in sufficient Arg. 6. It might be argued If Heathens have not the knowledge of truths necessary to salvation how are they left without excuse Answ Because God is not bound to reveal Christ to every man and what Truths are revealed every man sins against them And they are condemned not for not believing in Christ but for those sins Rom. 2.12 They that have sinned without Law shall perish without Law And if their acting coutrary to their shallow Light shall render them inexcusable How great will his condemnation be that casts off the saving Light of Scripture and will walk only after such dim Light as is in Heathens This is the Condemnation that Light is come into the world and men love darkness more than Light They cannot say we never heard that Christ shed his blood for remission of sins if we had we would have believed But this argument might be farther improved thus If their living contrary to their Light renders them without excuse then if they had lived up to their Light they had been saved Answ 1. This is but a frivolous supposition for none ever did none ever could live up to their Light that is from the beginning of their knowledge to the end of their dayes perfectly do every thing they know to be their duty Rom. 3.9 2. But suppose they had this had been no coming up to the condition of the Coyenant of works for this Light is not able perfectly to discover it Psal 119.96 I have seen an end of all perfection but thy the commandment is exceeding broad If by the help of Scripture and that measure of the spirit that was given to David he was not able to see the utmost bounds of Gods Law much less can this dim Light of it self reveal them 3. Nay suppose this Light had been able to discern perfectly the whole condition of the Covenant of works and once more suppose they had been able from the beginning of Life to the end to fulfill this also yet being fallen creatures being by nature the Children of wrath if God had not some way or other revealed Christ to them they had most certainly perished for the Covenant of works is no way of salvation for fallen man Gal. 3.21 If ever he be saved it must be by the Covenant of Grace that holds forth Christ The sum is this This Light revealing Duty their disobedience did render them unexcusable not revealing Christ their obedience could not have excused them for is not he a fighter against God that saith they were unjustly by nature the Children of wrath Admire we Gods grace for a revelation of Christ If we sincerely live our Light that is the precious Scripture though our unavoidable failings are many our God in Christ will save us Arg. 7. p. 19. Why should God give to man this Light surely Gods good will and end is to convince them of sin that they may see and hate it and by degrees be drawn out of it and so find mercy and peace and satisfaction with the Lord in forsaking sin and embracing Righteousness Answ 1. Suppose we should perfectly be drawn from sin to holiness without faith in Christs blood for remission never should we find mercy and true peace with God but standing charged with past guilt should every