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A95789 Hell broke loose: or An history of the Quakers both old and new. Setting forth many of their opinions and practices. Published to antidote Christians against formality in religion and apostasie. By Thomas Underhill citizen of London. Underhill, Thomas. 1660 (1660) Wing U43; Thomason E770_6; ESTC R207275 38,367 59

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upon the Husk c. p. 11. See way to the Kingdome p. 8. See perfect Pharisee p. 17 18. 22. That the Scriptures are not the Saints Rule of knowing God and living unto him but that which was before the Scriptures were written This is also your own concerning which anon more at large Atkinson ubisupra p. 1. Parnell p. 11. 23. That there is no need of outward teachings by reading or hearing of the Scriptures opened and applyed See perfect Pharisee p. 20. 24. That no mens interpretations of the Scripture or Arguments from them are to be received except those that give them are infallible See Quakers Cat. published by Mr Baxter where the Quaerists require Infallibility in a Minister And perfect Pharisee p 23. This is generally their strain We renounce and deny all your meanings interpretations arguments calling them adding to the Scriptures And concerning it we must have a brush or two with you anon 25. That the light in them is the Gospell and the more sure word of Prophecy so sure that some of them say That it is a like for to take a sentence out of their Letters and Preach from it as to take a sentence out of Pauls Epistles Discovery of mysticall Antichrist displaying Christs Banners p. 15 and 33. 26. That there is no call to the Ministry but an immediate Call which is generally proclaimed by them See perfect Pharisee p. 29. J. Parnell p. 16. 27. There is no Baptisme of Christ but with the holy Ghost and fire And no Supper of the Lord but in the spirituall part for as for the visible part The Bread which the world breakes is carnall and naturall See perfect Pharisee p. 28. and J. Parnell p 12 13. 28. That singing Davids Psalmes in English Meeter is to sing the Ballads of Hopkins and Sternhold King James his Fidlers And to sing them is to turn the Scriptures into lies and blasphemies One of them in a Letter here at Reading Henry Clarke in his description of the Prophets p. 9. 29. That God made not man to be Lord over Man but over Creatures and therefore amongst them there are no Superiours after the flesh But are there any Superiours over them then that are not among them see in the next Article J. Parnell p. 22 23. 30. That Christ comes to fulfill and end all outward Lawes and Government of man Ja. Parnell p. 18 19. The righteous are from under the outward Law for they are a Law to themselves Especially if Magistrates be wicked that is not of them the Author quoted in the Margin denies them utterly 31. Ja. Parnell p. 37. That there is no Sabbath now but an everlasting Sabbath and that our Sabbath is but a shadow of which they have the substance and that the first day in the week is no Sabbath 32. That we may not pray before and after Sermons or at set times daies and houres because these things were in the Generation which were enemies to Christ Quaeries sent to the Congregation at Stopport printed in a Book of Mr Eaton 33. That the Ratters themselves had a pure convincement which did convince them And what their convincements were most men know To wit that there is no Heaven Hell Resurrection Judgment to come that there is no sin but what a Man thinks to be so that all that they did was done by the Eternity in them c. Geo. Fox and J. Nailor in a book called A word from the Lord p. 13. 34. That that word 1 John 1.8 If we say we have no sin we deceive our selves was spoken by the carnall man Fr. Gawler See Antichrist in man by Mr Miller of Cardiff p. 7. Idem ibid. 35. That if a man hath sin in him he hath none of Christ 36. They will not acknowledge that Christ ascended with his body into Heaven Idem ibid. Since my Catalogue of the Errors and Blasphemies of the Quakers was Printed off I thought good to make this Addition following Of the Trinity WE deny the term of three distinct Persons which you call God the Father God the Son and God the holy Ghost Whitehead and Geo. Fox against Mr. Smith the Library keeper of Cambridg p. 2. Printed 1659. Of the Authority of the speeches and writings of the Quakers Quest Do you esteem of your speakings to be of as great Authothority as any Chapters in the Bible Answ That which is spoken from the Spirit of Truth in any is of as great Authority as the Scriptures or Chapters are and greater as Christs words were of greater Authority when he spake then the Pharisees reading the Letter This was Writ and Published by Geo. Whitchead and Geo. Fox the younger in their Truth defended against Mr. Tho. Smith of Cambridge 1659. And themselves say it was written from the Spirit of Truth in Geo. Whitehead and Geo. Fox the younger see the Title Page of Truth defending the Quakers and p. 7. here it is plainly though most grosly and blasphemously affirmed that the Quakers speakings are of greater Authority than the Scriptures Of the Morall Law or Ten Commandements No Rule to the Christians life Whitehead and Geo. Fox against Mr. Smith p. 18. In which Book also these Doctrines are owned That Christs coming in the flesh was but a Figure p. 20. That it s no sin to mend an old Doublet on the Communion Table on the Lords Day in Sermon time though forbidden by the Parrishioners p. 20 21. Of Justification Good works are the meritorious cause of our Justification Fisher the Quaker in the Dispute with Mr. Tho. Danson at Sandwitch Printed 1659. These following Stories I had from my very good Friend Mr. W. Allen of London who will if occasion be satisfie any concerning the truth of them By which as well as by some of the former may be seen that the Devill doth extraordinarily act in and by many of the Quakers A Maid in London being met by a Quaker who addressed himselfe to her with suits of Love was perswaded to drink with him The Quaker took something out of a Paper and put into the drink and in discourse told her she should come after him and that he need not come after her The Maid after this found pressing inclinations within her selfe to go to the Quakers Meeting and was brought into strange Raptures and found her mind exceedingly turned against the Bible And some Christian Friends of hers having observed her to have been under sore distempers as well of body as mind for a certaintime at last kept a day of fasting and Prayer for her having her then in their company though not without much relactancy on her part Whilst they were thus seeking God for her she found her selfe greatly tormented and her body sweld so much that they were fain to unloose her Cloathes to give her ease But before they had finished that daies work she found her selfe delivered and since acknowledged to me the great mercy of God to her in recovering her
this substance is the same holy Ghost by which the Apostles were endued and the Christ of God the Redeemer from sin That the Garden of Eden is the world that the Trees thereof are all living beings That Paradice is in man That man fell by harkning to the wicked which was the fleshly mind and that not the Woman properly but the silliest and weakest part was the Woman that tempted him That Adam was the earthly nature in Man That the Redeemer of Man is not that person the Son of God that dyed at Jerusalem but the light which is in every particular Man by which he is given to see sin and inabled by it if obedient to be redeemed from sin That searching the Scriptures is not the way to find out the knowledg of Christ but the turning the mind within there to be taught the measure of God the Law written in the heart That Scripture ought not to be interpreted This Collection following of the Opinions of the Quakers was made by two very Reverend and most credible men Mr. Christopher Fowler and Mr. Simon Ford Ministers of the Gospell in Reading in their Book Intituled A sober Answer to an Angry Epistle of Tho. Speeds a Quaker in Bristol The Quakers Doctrines 1. Sect. 54. Perfect Pharisee p. 3. See also the Relation of the it-religious Northern Quakers THat they are equall with God as holy just and good as God himself Affirmed by G. Fox and J Nailor before Witnesses who attest it in a Book called the perfect Pharisee published by five Ministers of Newcastle 2. Sultable hereunto was the Blasphemy of one of your she-Quakers lately in hold in this Town who being convented before the Major of this Corporation and asked what she was and what was her name roundly answered and stood to it again the next day I AM THAT I AM which will be attested upon Oath by the Major and one of the Constables 3. Suitable to this was the Blasphemy of another of your Brethren who meeting with a godly Londiner occasionally being in this Town on a Lords day lately and asking him the way as he met him to one of our Churches answered him in these words The Church is in God and the Church is God 4. That the being of God is not distinct from them that are begotten by him Sword of the Lord by James Atkinson Quaker 5. That the Nature and Glory of the Elect differ not from the Nature and Glory of the Creator For the Elect are one with the Creator in his Nature enjoying his glory That the Elect is not distinct from the Creator Howgill and Burroughs two Quakers in an answer to Reeve 6 And that God is not distinct from living Creatures for in him living Creatures lives moves c. 7. That God is three Persons or subsistences they say is a lye That there is no distinctions of Persons in the Godhead Sword of the Lord by J. Atkinson G. Fox Errand to Damascus 8. That the soul is a part of the Divine Essence See perfect Pharisee p. 6. 9. That Jesus Christ is God and Man in one person they say is a lye 10. They deny and detest this Doctrine That Christ being the only God and Man in one person remaines for ever a distinct person from all Saints and Angels notwithstanding their Vnion and communion with him Sword of the Lord by James Atkinson 11. That the person that Son of God which died at Jerusalem is not the Redeemer of Man from sin but the Redeemer is in every man that light by which he is given to see him c. The discourse of a Quaker with J. Toldervy Foot out of the Snare p. 7. 12. That Christ is in every man even Heathen Indians and in the Reprobates he is hold under corruption 13. That Christ was a man had his failings for he distrusted God upon the Crosse J. Nailor See perfect Pharisee p. 7. Rob. Collison See Gilpins Book p. 2. 14. That we are not justified by that righteousness of Christ which he in his own person did fulfill without us And that whosoever expects to be saved by him that died at Jerusalem shall be deceived For Christ in the flesh was in all that he died and suffered a Figure and nothing but an example 15. That we are therefore to be saved not by the righteousness of Christ imputed to us but by the righteousness of Christ inherent in us See both these in the perfect Pharisee with their Testimonies p. 9 10 11. And Howgill and Burroughs Answer to Bennet Q. 9. And another to the same purpose saith That the faith and justification which stands in the comprehension of Christ without will stand us in no stead Fr. Gawler to Mr. Miller of Cardiff 16. That God and man cannot be perfectly reconciled till he be brought into the state of the first Adam and able in his own power to stand perfect And that holy workes and lives of Saints are not excluded from justification Howgill c. Answer to Bennets 11 12 Quaeries 17. That no man that is not perfectly holy or commits sin can ever enter into the Kingdome of Heaven except there be a Purgatory And there is no Saint but he that is so perfectly holy in this life without sin 18. That to Preach the impossibility of such a freedome here on earth is to Preach up sin while the world stands and to bring men into Covenant with the Devill for tearm of life Nailor perfect Pharisee p. 11 12 13. See also J. Parnell Shield of faith p. 29. to both these Nailor in his answer to Mr Baxter p. 28. 19. That Christ took not humane flesh upon him at any time otherwise then he daily doth and that Christ is now conversant on earth among men since his ascension as he was in the Apostles times It is the summe of Howgills and Burroughs answer to two Quaeries of Mr Bennet See Howgill c. in their answer to Bennets 18 and 19 Qu. 20. That the Scriptures are not the Word of God This is their constant judgment though they dare not profess it for fear of the Law as one of the most eminent in these parts confessed before the Magistrates here in the hearing of one of us asking Whether if the Bible were burnt the Word of God were burnt or words sully to this purpose See the proof perfect Pharisee p. 23. T.C. Parnells book p. 10. saith He that saith the Letter is the Word is a Deceiver 21. That they had a light in them sufficient to lead them to salvation if they had never seen or heard of the Bible The substance of this was affirmed before some Magistrates of this Town and one of us by the same party And this light extended to Heathen Indians by him Suitable to the assertions of James Nailor in a discourse of his in the Book quoted here And he that saith the Letter is the Rule and guid of the people of God is without feeding