you_o both_o to_o will_v and_o to_o be_v able_a to_o do_v for_o his_o own_o good_a pleasure_n whereupon_o we_o conclude_v that_o though_o a_o man_n be_v will_v to_o work_v his_o own_o salvation_n by_o walk_v in_o that_o way_n which_o god_n have_v appoint_v for_o they_o that_o shall_v be_v save_v yet_o he_o can_v do_v nothing_o by_o his_o own_o strength_n but_o all_o that_o he_o do_v be_v of_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n for_o by_o grace_n you_o be_v save_v through_o faith_n &_o that_o not_o of_o 8._o yourselves_o it_o be_v the_o gift_n of_o god_n to_o be_v short_a we_o make_v not_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n a_o helper_n only_o but_o a_o whole_a doer_n and_o bringer_n to_o pass_v in_o we_o of_o our_o salvation_n and_o of_o all_o thing_n tend_v thereto_o for_o we_o be_v not_o apt_a of_o ourselves_o as_o of_o ourselves_o to_o think_v any_o thing_n belong_v thereto_o but_o our_o aptness_n be_v of_o god_n nor_o i_o say_v saint_n paul_n but_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n which_o be_v with_o i_o again_o we_o etc._n have_v infinite_a place_n of_o scripture_n to_o prove_v that_o a_o man_n ought_v not_o to_o doubt_v of_o his_o salvation_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o god_n promise_n although_o we_o ought_v to_o fear_v &_o trem_fw-la ble_a at_o god_n judgement_n and_o although_o we_o can_v be_v always_o void_a of_o fear_n in_o respect_n of_o our_o own_o weakness_n furthermore_o they_o have_v expresselie_o do_v you_o the_o worthy_a fruit_n of_o penance_n luc._n 3._o we_o have_v not_o where_o that_o faith_n only_o be_v sufficient_a without_o all_o satisfaction_n and_o all_o other_o work_v of_o penance_n on_o our_o part_n the_o fruit_n worthy_a of_o repentance_n we_o acknowledge_v to_o be_v necessaire_fw-fr to_o declare_v unfeigned_a repentance_n but_o not_o for_o satisfaction_n of_o god_n justice_n which_o be_v blasphemous_a against_o the_o satisfaction_n of_o christ_n death_n but_o that_o a_o faith_n which_o be_v fruitless_a or_o void_a of_o the_o work_n of_o repentance_n shall_v be_v sufficient_a to_o salvation_n or_o justification_n we_o do_v utterlie_o deny_v as_o a_o thing_n contrary_n to_o the_o scripture_n yet_o again_o they_o have_v expresselie_o that_o every_o man_n shall_v be_v save_v according_o to_o his_o work_n apo._n 20._o we_o have_v not_o where_o that_o man_n shall_v be_v judge_v only_o according_a to_o their_o faith_n we_o confess_v as_o the_o text_n be_v that_o every_o man_n shall_v be_v judge_v according_o to_o his_o work_n and_o so_o perhaps_o he_o will_v have_v say_v if_o the_o corrector_n have_v do_v his_o part_n neither_o do_v we_o affirm_v that_o man_n shall_v be_v judge_v only_o according_a to_o their_o faith_n for_o trial_n of_o their_o faith_n shall_v be_v make_v by_o their_o work_n once_o again_o they_o have_v expresselie_o that_o there_o remain_v aretribution_n stipend_n and_o pay_v to_o every_o good_a work_n in_o heaven_n marc._n 9_o 1._o cor._n 3._o apoc._n 22._o ps._n 118._o we_o have_v as_o he_o say_v no_o where_o that_o good_a work_n do_v in_o christ_n do_v merit_v nothing_o in_o the_o 3._o text_n quote_v out_o of_o the_o new_a testament_n be_v all_o one_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o signify_v a_o reward_n whether_o it_o be_v free_o give_v or_o deserve_v by_o labour_n to_o he_o that_o work_v say_v saint_n paul_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d reward_n be_v not_o account_v according_a to_o grace_n but_o 4._o according_a to_o debt_n but_o god_n be_v debtor_n to_o no_o man_n neither_o be_v there_o any_o merit_n of_o good_a work_n once_o name_v in_o the_o scripture_n but_o against_o the_o merit_n of_o good_a work_n christ_n say_v epxresselie_o when_o you_o have_v do_v all_o thing_n that_o be_v command_v unto_o you_o say_v we_o be_v unprofitable_a 10._o servant_n and_o the_o pay_n wage_n stipend_n merit_n or_o desert_n of_o a_o unprofitable_a servant_n be_v show_v matt._n 25._o 30._o cast_v out_o the_o unprofitable_a servant_n into_o utter_a darkness_n there_o shall_v be_v weep_a and_o gnash_n of_o tooth_n it_o be_v therefore_o the_o grace_n mercy_n and_o truth_n of_o god_n promise_n whereby_o we_o claim_v reward_v and_o not_o the_o merit_n desert_n or_o debt_n of_o our_o good_a work_n to_o that_o he_o say_v they_o have_v expresselie_o prayer_n and_o sacrifice_n for_o the_o dead_a in_o the_o second_o of_o the_o maccaebees_n we_o answer_v that_o book_n of_o macabe_n to_o be_v no_o holy_a scripture_n out_o of_o which_o he_o may_v have_v expresselie_o a_o man_n commend_v for_o kill_v himself_o whether_o angel_n present_v good_a work_n and_o almesdeede_n before_o god_n and_o whether_o saint_n depart_v do_v prey_n for_o they_o that_o be_v alive_a which_o he_o gather_v out_o of_o the_o apocryphal_a book_n of_o toby_n and_o the_o maccabe_n we_o make_v no_o question_n as_o of_o matter_n not_o reveal_v in_o the_o canonical_a scripture_n but_o if_o they_o be_v grant_v to_o be_v so_o yet_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o man_n alive_a must_v or_o may_v pray_v to_o angel_n or_o saint_n depart_v last_o of_o all_o out_o of_o the_o canonical_a scripture_n he_o say_v they_o have_v expresselie_o that_o the_o affliction_n which_o daniel_n use_v upon_o his_o body_n be_v acceptable_a in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n dan._n 10._o and_o we_o have_v not_o where_o that_o such_o voluntary_a corporal_a affliction_n be_v in_o vain_a but_o which_o of_o we_o say_v that_o such_o voluntary_a corporal_a affliction_n as_o daniel_n use_v and_o to_o such_o end_n as_o he_o do_v use_v they_o be_v in_o vain_a no_o man_n very_o you_o see_v therefore_o that_o while_o he_o boast_v of_o express_a word_n of_o scripture_n against_o we_o he_o be_v drive_v either_o to_o gloze_v upon_o the_o text_n or_o to_o feign_v some_o opinion_n unto_o we_o which_o we_o hold_v not_o at_o all_o and_o that_o all_o his_o brag_n be_v but_o wind_n and_o word_n without_o matter_n as_o of_o one_o that-fcareth_a no_o shame_n because_o his_o head_n be_v hide_v the_o three_o way_n of_o trial_n be_v necessary_a collection_n make_v and_o infer_v upon_o the_o scripture_n which_o we_o be_v willing_a to_o acknowledge_v and_o admit_v to_o be_v of_o as_o great_a authority_n as_o the_o express_a word_n of_o the_o scripture_n but_o to_o discern_v what_o be_v necessary_a collection_n and_o what_o be_v not_o necessary_a collection_n when_o there_o be_v no_o express_a word_n of_o scripture_n there_o be_v no_o certain_a way_n but_o the_o judgement_n of_o logic_n for_o that_o only_o be_v necessary_a collection_n which_o out_o of_o express_a word_n of_o scripture_n or_o article_n of_o faith_n or_o other_o ground_n confess_v to_o be_v necessary_o gather_v out_o of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n may_v be_v right_o conclude_v in_o a_o true_a and_o lawful_a syllogism_n &_o whatsoever_o can_v be_v so_o conclude_v be_v no_o necessary_a collection_n but_o our_o answerer_n say_v we_o must_v refer_v ourselves_o to_o the_o ancient_a primitive_a church_n for_o this_o meaning_n and_o his_o reason_n be_v for_o it_o be_v like_a they_o know_v it_o best_o for_o that_o they_o live_v near_o to_o the_o writer_n thereof_o than_o we_o do_v who_o can_v well_o declare_v unto_o they_o what_o be_v the_o meaning_n of_o the_o same_o we_o do_v willing_o yield_v to_o consult_v with_o the_o ancient_a primitive_a church_n to_o be_v holpen_v with_o their_o collection_n but_o to_o admit_v all_o their_o collection_n without_o examine_v they_o be_v to_o admit_v many_o error_n that_o even_o the_o papist_n do_v condemn_v for_o error_n and_o which_o be_v reproove_v by_o the_o scripture_n themselves_o let_v one_o example_n serve_v in_o stead_n of_o many_o s._n jerome_n collect_v out_o of_o this_o scripture_n it_o be_v good_a not_o to_o touch_v a_o woman_n that_o therefore_o it_o be_v evil_a to_o touch_v a_o woman_n every_o man_n do_v see_v that_o this_o be_v a_o unnecessary_a collection_n and_o so_o be_v many_o other_o in_o the_o ancient_a father_n writing_n wherefore_o we_o must_v use_v the_o gift_n of_o knowledge_n of_o right_n gather_v and_o conclude_v which_o god_n have_v give_v not_o to_o be_v unprofitable_a unto_o his_o church_n but_o to_o be_v both_o beneficial_a and_o necessary_a again_o mark_v the_o feeble_a reason_n upon_o which_o our_o answerer_n ground_v his_o say_n it_o be_v like_a they_o know_v it_o best_o he_o can_v say_v it_o be_v necessary_a that_o they_o know_v it_o best_o then_o how_o proove_v he_o that_o it_o be_v like_a because_o they_o live_v near_o to_o the_o writer_n than_o we_o do_v who_o can_v well_o declare_v the_o meaning_n unto_o they_o in_o deed_n if_o we_o have_v the_o writing_n of_o they_o that_o live_v so_o near_o unto_o the_o apostle_n that_o they_o may_v hear_v their_o meaning_n of_o their_o own_o mouth_n it_o be_v some_o likeliehood_n and_o yet_o no_o necessary_a proof_n
flat_o against_o you_o for_o he_o that_o do_v not_o that_o which_o god_n command_v sin_v although_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n he_o do_v some_o other_o thing_n that_o be_v good_a or_o not_o evil_a yea_o although_o he_o sleep_v and_o do_v nothing_o where_o master_n charke_n do_v distinguish_v the_o creature_n and_o ordinance_n of_o god_n which_o be_v good_a from_o the_o corruption_n and_o prevarication_n that_o be_v in_o they_o which_o be_v evil_a you_o pick_v a_o fond_a quarrel_n to_o he_o and_o make_v he_o to_o say_v that_o devil_n and_o evil_a man_n do_v not_o repugn_v against_o the_o law_n of_o god_n and_o that_o they_o do_v not_o sin_v proper_o which_o be_v false_a for_o he_o say_v no_o such_o thing_n but_o that_o evil_a man_n as_o they_o be_v the_o creature_n of_o god_n be_v not_o against_o the_o law_n but_o the_o evil_a in_o man_n and_o so_o of_o the_o rest_n yet_o evil_a man_n do_v sin_n proper_o and_o repugn_v against_o the_o law_n of_o god_n by_o the_o evil_a that_o be_v in_o they_o as_o in_o your_o own_o example_n the_o physician_n cure_v his_o patient_n not_o as_o he_o be_v a_o man_n but_o as_o he_o be_v a_o physician_n and_o by_o knowledge_n of_o physic_n which_o be_v in_o he_o and_o as_o for_o the_o repugnance_n of_o contrariety_n whereof_o the_o question_n be_v in_o the_o definition_n of_o sin_n it_o be_v not_o in_o the_o creature_n of_o god_n but_o the_o corruption_n of_o that_o good_a creature_n a_o black_a horse_n be_v not_o contrary_a to_o the_o colour_n of_o white_a but_o the_o colour_n of_o black_a so_o not_o a_o evil_a man_n but_o sin_n of_o a_o evil_a man_n be_v contrary_a to_o the_o justice_n of_o god_n law_n so_o a_o phitisian_a drive_v away_o a_o ague_n yet_o aphisitian_n be_v not_o contrary_a to_o a_o ague_n but_o thevertue_n of_o the_o medicine_n which_o he_o minister_v when_o every_o child_n may_v understand_v your_o cavil_v it_o be_v no_o marvel_n though_o you_o charge_v m._n chark_n with_o such_o absurdity_n and_o ignorance_n yea_o with_o heresy_n and_o that_o out_o of_o augustine_n tom._n 8._o fol._n 665._o not_o tell_v we_o of_o what_o edition_n you_o speak_v so_o that_o it_o be_v hard_a to_o find_v if_o it_o be_v worth_a the_o search_n that_o which_o you_o talk_v of_o but_o you_o be_v to_o be_v pardon_v for_o your_o note_n be_v unperfect_a &_o do_v not_o express_v in_o what_o homely_a upon_o what_o psalm_n the_o second_o fault_n of_o the_o jesuite_n definition_n be_v that_o they_o call_v it_o a_o humane_a or_o reasonable_a action_n master_n charke_n will_v rather_o say_v a_o beastly_a or_o unreasonable_a action_n of_o a_o man_n endue_v with_o reason_n here_o you_o take_v on_o and_o ask_v whether_o master_n charke_n be_v so_o unlearned_a in_o all_o foundation_n of_o philosophy_n and_o aristotle_n and_o saint_n augustine_n be_v call_v to_o witness_v that_o sin_n proceed_v from_o the_o mind_n endue_v with_o reason_n and_o what_o other_o thing_n i_o beseech_v you_o do_v master_n charke_n say_v his_o word_n be_v plain_a as_o i_o have_v set_v they_o down_o and_o the_o same_o that_o you_o cite_v 10._o out_o of_o augustine_n now_o if_o you_o will_v defend_v that_o sin_n be_v a_o action_n agreeable_a to_o right_a reason_n because_o it_o proceed_v from_o a_o reasonable_a man_n he_o give_v you_o a_o weapon_n to_o play_v with_o all_o against_o your_o next_o encounter_n otherwise_o he_o have_v better_a reform_v the_o word_n of_o your_o definition_n the_o you_o have_v either_o wit_n or_o grace_n to_o understand_v it_o have_v a_o better_a colour_n that_o you_o object_n of_o the_o moral_a work_n of_o justice_n temperance_n &_o other_o virtue_n in_o the_o gentiles_n which_o m._n chark_n will_v acknowledge_v to_o be_v sin_n and_o yet_o they_o seem_v to_o be_v agreeable_a to_o right_a reason_n &_o so_o they_o be_v in_o part_n so_o far_o forth_o as_o they_o be_v direct_v by_o that_o light_n which_o be_v leave_v in_o man_n proceed_v from_o the_o eternal_a word_n of_o god_n but_o in_o so_o much_o as_o that_o light_n shine_v in_o darkness_n and_o the_o darkness_n comprehend_v it_o not_o no_o acceptable_a work_n to_o god_n can_v be_v bring_v forth_o thereby_o yea_o for_o so_o much_o as_o all_o the_o moral_a work_n of_o the_o gentile_n respect_v not_o the_o right_a end_n of_o obedience_n and_o glory_n of_o god_n who_o they_o know_v not_o their_o whole_a action_n be_v 8._o thereby_o vitiate_v and_o corrupt_v so_o that_o they_o may_v justly_o be_v call_v sin_n even_o as_o prayer_n be_v turn_v into_o sin_n and_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o ungodlie_a be_v abomination_n to_o the_o lord_n and_o m._n charke_n faith_n true_o whatsoever_o be_v not_o of_o faith_n be_v sin_n be_v it_o reasonable_a as_o you_o speak_v or_o against_o reason_n and_o in_o deed_n against_o right_a reason_n it_o be_v that_o the_o gentile_n in_o their_o moral_a work_n seek_v not_o to_o obey_v god_n according_a to_o his_o law_n and_o therefore_o even_o their_o best_a work_n of_o justice_n and_o temperance_n be_v sin_n but_o this_o be_v so_o jump_o you_o say_v that_o a_o horse_n may_v be_v a_o sinner_n for_o that_o his_o action_n proceed_v not_o of_o faith_n in_o deed_n if_o saint_n paul_n have_v speak_v of_o the_o action_n of_o brute_n beast_n as_o your_o saint_n francis_n witness_n your_o legend_n do_v preach_v to_o brute_n beast_n you_o have_v jump_v near_o the_o matter_n but_o when_o none_o but_o a_o ass_n will_v understand_v saint_n paul_n to_o speak_v of_o any_o other_o action_n than_o such_o as_o proceed_v from_o man_n you_o jump_v as_o near_o as_o german_n lip_n that_o be_v nine_o mile_n a_o sunder_o but_o you_o will_v answer_v to_o saint_n paul_n with_o s._n ambrose_n that_o he_o mean_v whoesoever_o do_v a_o thing_n against_o that_o which_o faith_n prescribe_v that_o be_v against_o a_o man_n own_o conscience_n and_o judgement_n he_o sin_v the_o word_n of_o s._n ambrose_n be_v these_o rectè_fw-la peccatum_fw-la appellat_fw-la quod_fw-la aliter_fw-la 14._o fit_a quà m_fw-la probatum_fw-la est_fw-la he_o do_v right_o call_v that_o sin_n which_o be_v do_v otherwise_o then_o be_v allow_v now_o this_o allowance_n or_o approbation_n be_v not_o refer_v to_o every_o man_n corrupt_a conscience_n or_o ignorant_a judgement_n as_o you_o expound_v it_o but_o be_v measure_v by_o faith_n which_o be_v a_o certain_a knowledge_n and_o persuasion_n ground_v upon_o the_o word_n of_o god_n as_o saint_n paul_n show_v in_o the_o 14._o verse_n of_o the_o 14._o chap._n i_o know_v &_o be_o persuade_v by_o our_o lord_n jesus_n that_o nothing_o be_v unclean_a of_o itself_o which_o faith_n when_o the_o gentile_n have_v not_o in_o their_o work_n their_o work_n be_v sin_n and_o therefore_o you_o abuse_v s._n ambrose_n by_o your_o gloze_n to_o restrain_v the_o prescription_n of_o faith_n only_o to_o that_o which_o a_o man_n do_v against_o his_o conscience_n and_o judgement_n but_o saint_n augustine_n you_o say_v proove_v at_o large_a against_o master_n charke_n that_o the_o moral_a good_a work_n of_o infidel_n be_v not_o sin_n lib._n de_fw-fr spiritu_fw-la &_o litera_fw-la cap._n 26._o 27._o 28._o in_o truth_n s._n augustine_n though_o he_o call_v such_o work_n justice_n liberality_n wrought_v by_o infidel_n as_o we_o do_v common_o good_a work_n yet_o his_o judgement_n be_v none_o other_o than_o i_o have_v before_o express_v and_o that_o he_o declare_v in_o the_o latter_a end_n of_o the_o 27._o chapter_n for_o in_o the_o 26._o he_o have_v nothing_o sound_v that_o wase_n speak_v of_o infidel_n quaedam_fw-la tamen_fw-la fact_n a_o vel_fw-la legimus_fw-la vel_fw-la novimus_fw-la vel_fw-la audimus_fw-la quae_fw-la secundùm_fw-la iusliciae_fw-la regulam_fw-la non_fw-la solùm_fw-la vituper_fw-la be_v non_fw-la possumus_fw-la verumetiam_fw-la meritò_fw-la recteque_fw-la laudamus_fw-la quanquam_fw-la si_fw-la discutiatur_fw-la quo_fw-la fine_fw-la fiant_fw-la vix_fw-la iweniuntur_fw-la quae_fw-la insticiae_fw-la debitam_fw-la laudem_fw-la defensionemue_fw-la mereantur_fw-la yet_o some_o deed_n we_o either_o read_v or_o know_v or_o hear_v of_o which_o according_a to_o the_o rule_n of_o righteousness_n we_o can_v not_o only_o dispraise_v but_o also_o we_o do_v worthy_o &_o right_o praise_v they_o although_o if_o it_o be_v discuss_v with_o what_o end_n they_o be_v do_v they_o be_v scarslie_o find_v which_o deserve_v the_o praise_n or_o defence_n dew_n to_o righteousness_n but_o most_o cleerelie_o his_o judgement_n be_v for_o master_n charke_n against_o you_o sir_n defender_n as_o well_o for_o the_o allegation_n of_o the_o text_n rom._n 14._o where_o you_o scornfullie_o jump_v in_o your_o sinful_a horse_n as_o for_o the_o matter_n in_o question_n that_o the_o moral_a work_n of_o gentile_n be_v sin_n before_o god_n contra_fw-la julianum_fw-la pelagianum_n lib._n 4._o cap._n 3._o toward_o the_o end_n in_o these_o word_n si_fw-mi gentilis_fw-la inquis_fw-la nudum_fw-la
be_v find_v in_o the_o scripture_n it_o be_v most_o clear_a that_o god_n forgive_v our_o sin_n otherwise_o then_o by_o external_a order_n or_o sacramet_n again_o the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n be_v a_o seal_n and_o assurance_n unto_o we_o of_o the_o forgiveness_n of_o our_o sin_n not_o only_o such_o as_o be_v come_v mit_v before_o baptism_n receive_v but_o even_o unto_o our_o life_n end_n whensoever_o we_o be_v true_o penitent_a for_o the_o same_o also_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n in_o which_o we_o be_v spiritual_o feed_v with_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v give_v for_o we_o and_o with_o his_o blood_n which_o be_v shed_v for_o the_o remission_n of_o our_o sin_n be_v a_o sure_a pledge_n token_n and_o seal_v of_o the_o remission_n of_o our_o sin_n commit_v after_o baptism_n that_o we_o need_v not_o the_o popish_a sacrament_n of_o penance_n for_o the_o same_o allen_n as_o for_o myself_o good_a christian_a reader_n i_o be_o not_o so_o free_a from_o sin_n woe_n be_v i_o therefore_o nor_o so_o void_a of_o man_n affection_n but_o as_o often_o i_o hear_v in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o penance_n the_o priest_n who_o to_o i_o then_o be_v christ_n in_o full_a power_n of_o pardon_v say_v the_o word_n of_o absolution_n over_o i_o i_o think_v true_o i_o hear_v the_o sweet_a voice_n of_o christ_n say_v with_o authority_n thy_o sin_n be_v forgive_v thou_o whereof_o no_o mortallman_n shall_v ever_o forbid_v i_o to_o take_v hope_n and_o singular_a trust_n of_o remission_n of_o sin_n with_o the_o pass_a comfort_n that_o thereon_o ensue_v all_o these_o that_o be_v without_o christ_n fold_n seek_v not_o to_o hear_v his_o voice_n for_o all_o their_o load_n of_o sin_n from_o the_o heavenly_a and_o entire_a joy_n whereof_o they_o be_v as_o far_o as_o from_o the_o conceive_v of_o of_o the_o felicity_n to_o come_v in_o heaven_n itself_o but_o let_v they_o assure_v themselves_o that_o christ_n write_v with_o his_o holy_a finger_n all_o their_o sin_n though_o to_o christ_n they_o will_v not_o now_o confess_v they_o while_o they_o refuse_v the_o power_n ofremission_n that_o he_o both_o have_v and_o have_v in_o earth_n to_o the_o world_n end_n without_o which_o outward_a solemn_a act_n of_o penance_n man_n shall_v either_o despair_v of_o god_n mercy_n and_o live_v in_o fear_n intolerable_a of_o everlasting_a perish_v which_o often_o fall_v to_o timorous_a conscience_n or_o else_o which_o be_v now_o of_o day_n more_o common_a man_n will_v live_v in_o such_o pass_a presumption_n and_o vain_a security_n of_o heaven_n that_o they_o shall_v never_o till_o the_o very_a last_o breath_n of_o their_o evil_a time_n either_o be_v sorry_a for_o sin_n or_o seek_v to_o do_v any_o good_a work_n at_o al._n this_o time_n shall_v testify_v with_o i_o herein_o and_o the_o very_a diversity_n that_o be_v between_o these_o our_o corrupt_a condition_n and_o the_o holy_a study_n and_o endeavour_n of_o our_o forefather_n shalltestifie_v but_o the_o day_n that_o yet_o be_v to_o come_v must_v need_v most_o feel_v the_o smart_n of_o it_o when_o these_o that_o now_o have_v the_o direction_n of_o other_o man_n step_n shall_v be_v go_v by_o who_o for_o old_a discipline_n wherein_o they_o be_v bring_v up_o some_o sign_n and_o remnante_n of_o virtue_n be_v continue_v in_o the_o world_n for_o when_o they_o be_v spend_v and_o our_o yonker_n that_o never_o hear_v of_o the_o church_n discipline_n but_o have_v have_v their_o full_a swinge_n in_o sin_n with_o the_o instruction_n of_o a_o most_o wanton_a doctrine_n shall_v be_v the_o principal_a of_o the_o people_n if_o this_o division_n so_o long_o continue_v which_o god_n forbid_v into_o what_o term_n shall_v truth_n and_o virtue_n be_v then_o bring_v i_o think_v i_o see_v before_o hand_n the_o lamentable_a state_n of_o thing_n and_o in_o a_o manner_n behold_v the_o fruit_n of_o our_o only_a faith_n of_o this_o bold_a presumption_n of_o god_n mercy_n of_o remove_v the_o discipline_n of_o penance_n of_o refuse_v the_o only_a ordinance_n of_o god_n for_o remission_n of_o our_o mortal_a sin_n evil_n be_v we_o now_o but_o a_o thousand_o part_n worse_o shall_v they_o be_v then_o which_o in_o long_o nousel_v in_o this_o naughty_a learning_n of_o liberty_n shall_v be_v in_o perpetual_a woe_n and_o have_v not_o feel_v nor_o sense_n thereof_o and_o all_o this_o must_v needs_o follow_v upon_o the_o lack_n of_o these_o outward_a act_n &_o external_a way_n of_o pardon_v &_o punish_v offence_n and_o intend_v either_o for_o man_n present_a comfort_n and_o solace_n or_o else_o to_o keep_v in_o awe_n the_o wanton_n of_o the_o world_n by_o the_o rod_n of_o outward_a discipline_n which_o in_o the_o church_n have_v ever_o especial_o be_v observe_v in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o penance_n fulke_v when_o we_o hear_v the_o authorize_v ambassador_n and_o messenger_n of_o reconciliation_n pronounce_v in_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n according_a to_o the_o scripture_n and_o promise_n of_o god_n that_o our_o sin_n be_v forgive_v we_o whensoever_o we_o be_v hearty_o sorry_a &_o true_o penitent_a for_o the_o same_o we_o have_v sufficient_a warrant_n out_o of_o god_n word_n to_o assure_v ourselves_o of_o remission_n of_o they_o with_o inestimable_a joy_n &_o comfort_n of_o conscience_n but_o for_o the_o sacrament_n of_o penance_n or_o the_o priest_n to_o be_v christ_n unto_o we_o in_o fullpower_v of_o pardon_v or_o to_o have_v any_o word_n of_o absolution_n say_v over_o we_o because_o we_o have_v no_o ground_n in_o god_n word_n whatsoever_o imaginary_a pleasure_n you_o have_v therein_o we_o find_v nothing_o that_o be_v of_o force_n to_o stay_v a_o weak_a conscience_n to_o comfort_v a_o trouble_a spirit_n or_o to_o heal_v a_o break_a heart_n to_o confess_v our_o sin_n to_o christ_n who_o only_o know_v whether_o our_o repentance_n be_v unfeigned_a god_n forbid_v that_o we_o shall_v refuse_v but_o to_o confess_v they_o to_o a_o popish_a priest_n or_o any_o lawful_a minister_n if_o they_o be_v secret_a there_o be_v no_o law_n or_o commandment_n of_o god_n to_o require_v us._n if_o our_o conscience_n be_v not_o satisfy_v about_o any_o offence_n that_o we_o have_v commit_v how_o we_o shall_v declare_v our_o unfeigned_a conversion_n or_o repentance_n we_o may_v use_v the_o advice_n of_o the_o godly_a and_o learned_a pastor_n who_o be_v able_a out_o of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n toresolue_v our_o doubt_n and_o quiet_a our_o conscience_n that_o the_o want_n of_o popish_a penance_n will_v drive_v all_o man_n either_o to_o desperation_n or_o security_n and_o presumption_n it_o be_v affirm_v without_o any_o proof_n god_n be_v praise_v experience_n cry_v out_o of_o the_o contrary_a side_n but_o rather_o the_o doctrine_n of_o popery_n concern_v the_o pretence_a sacrament_n of_o penance_n be_v manifest_a occasion_n of_o security_n in_o they_o that_o be_v carnal_o mind_v of_o desperation_n in_o they_o that_o have_v a_o tender_a conscience_n for_o the_o one_o think_v he_o have_v a_o easy_a remedy_n for_o his_o sin_n to_o discharge_v they_o into_o a_o priest_n ear_n the_o other_o consider_v the_o impossibility_n of_o confession_n and_o unsufficiency_n of_o the_o satisfaction_n that_o be_v part_n of_o this_o counterfeit_a sacrament_n can_v find_v small_a comfort_n in_o the_o priest_n absolution_n your_o blasphemous_a rail_n at_o the_o doctrine_n of_o god_n justify_v by_o faith_n only_o which_o you_o call_v the_o instruction_n of_o a_o most_o wanton_a doctrine_n and_o the_o naughty_a learning_n of_o liberty_n be_v sufficient_o confute_v by_o the_o example_n of_o many_o thousand_o of_o god_n saint_n who_o acknowledge_v that_o they_o be_v justify_v in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n by_o faith_n only_o in_o the_o merit_n of_o christ_n be_v more_o fruitful_a in_o good_a work_n than_o all_o the_o popish_a hypocrite_n in_o the_o world_n where_o you_o term_v your_o popish_a penance_n to_o be_v the_o only_a ordinance_n of_o god_n for_o remission_n of_o our_o mortal_a sin_n you_o utter_v not_o only_o a_o gross_a contradiction_n of_o the_o truth_n teach_v in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n but_o also_o direct_o contrary_a to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o all_o papist_n and_o even_o of_o yourself_o for_o what_o say_v you_o m._n allen_n be_v you_o well_o advise_v when_o you_o say_v that_o penance_n be_v the_o only_a ordinance_n of_o god_n for_o remission_n of_o our_o mortal_a sin_n if_o it_o be_v as_o you_o say_v than_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n be_v not_o the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n for_o remission_n of_o our_o mortal_a sin_n as_o all_o papist_n beside_o you_o do_v hold_v and_o maintain_v and_o extreme_a unction_n whereof_o you_o have_v late_o affir_n m_v the_o contrary_a be_v not_o the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n for_o the_o remission_n of_o our_o mortal_a sin_n the_o discipline_n of_o the_o church_n whereby_o wanton_n be_v keep_v in_o
sacrifice_n neither_o be_v the_o word_n sacrifice_n in_o the_o hebrew_n text_n of_o daniel_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v a_o unlikelie_a place_n to_o prove_v a_o sacrifice_n propitiatory_a of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o mass_n the_o prophecy_n of_o malachi_n by_o general_a consent_n almost_o of_o all_o ancient_a father_n be_v expound_v as_o i_o have_v say_v of_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o praise_n and_o thanksgiving_n which_o be_v offer_v at_o all_o time_n by_o the_o faith_n full_a and_o especial_o in_o the_o celebration_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n but_o most_o cleerelie_o instinus_n martyr_n in_o his_o dialogue_n against_o the_o jew_n speak_v of_o the_o very_a same_o text_n of_o malachi_n and_o the_o sacrifice_n that_o be_v offer_v in_o all_o place_n by_o the_o gentile_n that_o be_v the_o bread_n of_o thanksgiving_n and_o the_o cup_n of_o thanksgiving_n have_v these_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n for_o i_o myself_o do_v affirm_v that_o prayer_n and_o thanksgiving_n make_v by_o worthy_a person_n be_v the_o only_a perfect_a and_o acceptable_a sacrifice_n to_o god_n for_o these_o be_v the_o only_a sacrifice_n that_o christian_n have_v receive_v to_o make_v to_o be_v put_v in_o mind_n by_o their_o dry_a and_o moist_a nourishment_n of_o the_o passion_n which_o god_n the_o son_n of_o god_n be_v record_v to_o have_v suffer_v for_o they_o if_o prayer_n and_o thanksgiving_n be_v the_o only_a sacrifice_n which_o christian_n have_v receive_v to_o offer_v and_o be_v the_o only_a perfect_a and_o acceptable_a sacrifice_n to_o god_n as_o justinus_n in_o plain_a word_n affirm_v where_o be_v the_o unbloodie_a sacrifice_n of_o the_o natural_a body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n yea_o of_o christ_n himself_o unto_o god_n his_o father_n if_o prayer_n and_o thanksgiving_n be_v the_o only_a pure_a sacrifice_n prophesy_v by_o malachi_n then_o be_v not_o the_o natural_a body_n of_o christ_n offer_v in_o the_o mass_n neither_o have_v the_o church_n any_o such_o sacrifice_n and_o although_o the_o ancient_a father_n often_o time_n do_v call_v the_o celebration_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n a_o sacrifice_n yet_o you_o see_v by_o the_o judgement_n of_o justinus_n how_o they_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o a_o spiritual_a sacrifice_n of_o prayer_n and_o thanksgiving_n for_o the_o death_n of_o christ_n on_o the_o cross_n and_o our_o perfect_v redemption_n thereby_o which_o also_o they_o call_v a_o unbloodie_a sacrifice_n jul._n sometime_o as_o cyrill_v and_o nazianzen_n in_o the_o place_n by_o the_o answerer_n quote_v but_o either_o in_o the_o same_o place_n or_o some_o other_o of_o their_o work_n they_o do_v evident_o declare_v that_o they_o mean_v no_o sacrifice_n propitiatory_a of_o the_o natural_a body_n of_o christ_n but_o of_o praise_n and_o thanksgiving_n for_o tbe_n only_o insacrificable_a sacrifice_n of_o christ_n 4._o passion_n as_o gregory_n nazianzen_n do_v call_v it_o saint_n augustine_n also_o in_o the_o place_n by_o the_o answerer_n quote_v 21._o show_v plain_o that_o this_o sacrifice_n of_o praise_n be_v celebrate_v by_o the_o sacrament_n of_o rememberaunce_n of_o the_o flesh_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n which_o in_o truth_n itself_o be_v offer_v in_o the_o passion_n of_o christ._n sed_fw-la quid_fw-la agam_fw-la etc._n etc._n but_o what_o shall_v i_o do_v and_o when_o shall_v i_o make_v demonstration_n to_o so_o great_a blindenes_n of_o these_o heretic_n what_o force_n that_o have_v which_o be_v song_n in_o the_o psalm_n the_o sacrifice_n of_o praise_n shall_v glorify_v i_o and_o there_o be_v the_o way_n where_o i_o will_v show_v my_o save_a health_n the_o flesh_n &_o blood_n of_o this_o sacrifice_n before_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n be_v promise_v by_o oblation_n of_o similitude_n in_o the_o passion_n of_o christ_n by_o the_o truth_n itself_o it_o be_v yield_v after_o the_o ascension_n of_o christ_n by_o the_o sacrament_n of_o remembrance_n it_o be_v celebtate_v who_o see_v not_o here_o a_o manifest_a opposition_n between_o yield_n by_o the_o truth_n itself_o and_o celebrate_v by_o a_o sacrament_n of_o remembrance_n but_o that_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n be_v the_o same_o that_o be_v offer_v on_o the_o cross_n differ_v but_o in_o the_o unbloodie_a manner_n of_o oblation_n saint_n chrysostom_n say_v out_o answerer_n do_v prove_v at_o large_a upon_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o hebrew_n hom._n 17._o who_o if_o master_n charke_n and_o his_o fellow_n will_v not_o disdain_v to_o read_v and_o believe_v they_o will_v be_v ashamed_a to_o cavil_n and_o blaspheme_v god_n mystery_n as_o they_o do_v the_o place_n of_o chrysostom_n have_v be_v often_o allege_v on_o both_o part_n by_o the_o papist_n for_o a_o show_n and_o a_o colour_n of_o the_o matter_n by_o the_o other_o side_n for_o a_o manifest_a demonstration_n that_o chrysostom_n as_o he_o do_v interpret_v himself_o make_v nothing_o for_o the_o popish_a sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n but_o altogether_o against_o it_o his_o word_n be_v these_o after_o he_o have_v show_v the_o imperfection_n of_o the_o legal_a sacrifice_n by_o the_o often_o repeat_v of_o they_o then_o what_o do_v we_o every_o day_n do_v we_o not_o offer_v yes_o we_o offer_v but_o we_o make_v the_o remembrance_n of_o his_o death_n and_o this_o be_v one_o sacrifice_n and_o not_o many_o how_o be_v it_o one_o and_o not_o many_o see_v it_o be_v once_o offer_v it_o be_v carry_v into_o the_o holy_a of_o holies_n this_o thing_n be_v a_o figure_n or_o type_n of_o that_o sacrifice_n &_o this_o sacrifice_n of_o that_o for_o we_o offer_v the_o same_o always_o not_o now_o a_o other_o but_o always_o the_o same_o therefore_o it_o be_v one_o sacrifice_n by_o this_o reason_n otherwise_o because_o it_o be_v offer_v in_o many_o place_n be_v there_o many_o christ_n not_o so_o but_o one_o chrisi_n every_o where_o both_o here_o full_a and_o perfect_a &_o there_o full_a and_o perfect_a one_o body_n therefore_o as_o be_v offer_v in_o many_o place_n it_o be_v one_o body_n and_o not_o many_o body_n so_o be_v it_o one_o sacrifice_n he_o be_v our_o high_a priest_n which_o offer_v that_o sacrifice_n which_o make_v we_o clean_o the_o same_o do_v we_o offer_v now_o also_o which_o then_o be_v offer_v which_o can_v not_o be_v consume_v this_o be_v now_o do_v in_o the_o remembrance_n of_o that_o which_o be_v then_o do_v for_o do_v you_o this_o say_v he_o in_o remembrance_n of_o i_o we_o do_v not_o offer_v a_o other_o sacrifice_n as_o the_o high_a priest_n but_o the_o same_o always_o but_o rather_o we_o work_v the_o remembrance_n of_o a_o sacrifice_n these_o word_n of_o chrysostom_n declare_v that_o the_o name_n of_o sacrifice_n be_v un_o proper_o give_v to_o the_o celebration_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n which_o be_v rather_o a_o remembrance_n of_o a_o sacrifice_n than_o a_o sacrifice_n indeed_o secondlie_o that_o retain_v the_o name_n of_o a_o sacrifice_n there_o be_v great_a difference_n between_o it_o and_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o christ_n for_o the_o thing_n here_o offer_v be_v a_o type_n of_o that_o which_o be_v offer_v there_o and_o this_o sacrifice_n be_v a_o figure_n of_o that_o sacrifice_n thirdlie_o christ_n offer_v the_o only_a sacrifice_n propitiatory_a that_o purge_v away_o sin_n this_o oblation_n be_v but_o a_o remembrance_n of_o that_o to_o stir_n we_o up_o to_o thankfullnes_n for_o that_o and_o to_o confirm_v our_o faith_n in_o our_o spiritual_a nourishment_n by_o that_o body_n and_o blood_n which_o be_v once_o offer_v for_o all_o never_o to_o be_v repeat_v so_o that_o master_n charke_n and_o his_o fellow_n have_v not_o chrysostom_n their_o adversary_n in_o this_o place_n but_o receive_v great_a light_n by_o this_o exposition_n of_o the_o name_n sacrifice_n which_o be_v not_o proper_o so_o to_o be_v call_v but_o rather_o a_o remembrance_n of_o a_o sacrifice_n and_o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v doubt_v but_o that_o other_o ancient_a father_n use_v the_o name_n of_o sacrifice_n in_o the_o same_o sense_n that_o chrysostom_n do_v the_o answerer_n refer_v his_o reader_n further_o to_o theodoret_n and_o saint_n augustine_n who_o handle_v this_o question_n why_o christian_n do_v now_o use_v to_o sacrifice_v see_v the_o old_a law_n with_o all_o sacrifice_n be_v abolish_v by_o the_o one_o sacrifice_n of_o christ._n you_o may_v see_v by_o this_o that_o our_o answerer_n have_v more_o care_n to_o point_v his_o margin_n with_o quotation_n of_o the_o doctor_n which_o the_o ignorant_a can_v not_o read_v than_o he_o have_v judgement_n to_o consider_v what_o the_o doctor_n write_v for_o this_o place_n of_o theodoret_n be_v clean_o contrary_a to_o the_o sacrifice_n propitiatory_a of_o the_o mass_n the_o word_n be_v these_o of_o the_o translation_n of_o gentianus_n heruetus_n a_o man_n not_o to_o be_v suspect_v of_o papist_n siergo_v &_o sacerdotium_fw-la quod_fw-la est_fw-la ex_fw-la lege_fw-la finem_fw-la 〈◊〉_d &_o
themselves_o whereof_o if_o there_o be_v no_o particular_a vow_n express_v yet_o see_v they_o vow_v to_o follow_v the_o rule_n of_o layolas_n which_o include_v whip_v of_o themselves_o as_o you_o can_v deny_v master_n charke_n have_v not_o belie_v the_o jesuite_n as_o you_o note_v in_o your_o margin_n and_o as_o concern_v the_o sect_n of_o heretic_n call_v whipper_n you_o refer_v we_o to_o prateolus_n and_o gerson_n to_o prove_v that_o they_o hold_v many_o wicked_a opinion_n for_o which_o they_o be_v condemn_v and_o ask_v what_o do_v this_o make_v against_o the_o sober_a &_o moderate_a chastisement_n which_o good_a man_n use_v in_o secret_a upon_o their_o own_o body_n at_o such_o time_n as_o they_o esteem_v themselves_o for_o mortification_n to_o need_v the_o same_o i_o answer_v there_o be_v no_o need_n that_o any_o man_n for_o mortification_n shall_v whip_v himself_o or_o else_o it_o be_v need_v for_o all_o man_n so_o to_o whip_v themselves_o except_o jesuite_n have_v more_o untamed_a body_n than_o all_o other_o man_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v but_o ethelothreschia_n a_o voluntary_a religion_n or_o a_o superstition_n after_o the_o precept_n and_o doctrine_n of_o man_n in_o colour_n of_o humility_n and_o not_o spare_v the_o body_n describe_v by_o saint_n paul_n col._n 2._o 23._o and_o as_o for_o gerson_n to_o who_o you_o send_v we_o do_v not_o slagiliante_n only_o condemn_v the_o heretical_a opinion_n of_o those_o whipper_n but_o also_o their_o whip_n of_o themselves_o and_o that_o for_o diverse_a cause_n of_o which_o i_o will_v rebearse_v some_o first_o he_o account_v it_o a_o tempt_a of_o god_n to_o lay_v such_o a_o burden_n upon_o man_n as_o you_o do_v which_o make_v whip_v needful_a for_o mortification_n 15._o whereby_o it_o follow_v that_o it_o be_v needful_a for_o all_o man_n as_o mortification_n be_v &_o not_o for_o jesuite_n only_a secondlie_o he_o say_v that_o the_o law_n of_o christ_n ought_v no_o less_o in_o his_o service_n to_o avoid_v the_o superstition_n of_o the_o gentiles_n and_o idolatour_n espiciallie_o these_o that_o be_v cruel_a and_o horrible_a than_o the_o old_a law_n in_o the_o which_o yet_o there_o be_v express_a prohibition_n deu._n 14._o where_o it_o be_v say_v be_v you_o seruer_n of_o the_o lord_n your_o god_n you_o shall_v not_o cut_v yourselves_o where_o the_o gloss_n be_v you_o ought_v not_o in_o any_o thing_n to_o be_v make_v like_o to_o idolatour_n and_o in_o the_o hebrue_n it_o be_v you_o shall_v not_o tear_v or_o rend_v yourselves_o again_o he_o say_v for_o i_o do_v but_o translate_v his_o word_n lex_fw-la christi_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o law_n of_o christ_n be_v give_v sufficient_o in_o the_o ten_o commandment_n the_o keep_n of_o which_o good_a simplicity_n and_o plain_a faith_n be_v enough_o to_o salvation_n especial_o of_o lay_v man_n and_o common_a people_n without_o any_o new_a imposition_n of_o most_o grievous_a burden_n according_a to_o the_o say_n of_o christ_n if_o thou_o will_v enter_v into_o life_n keep_v the_o commandment_n neither_o be_v it_o any_o thing_n worth_n if_o it_o be_v say_v that_o the_o people_n do_v voluntary_o take_v upon_o they_o such_o whip_n without_o any_o other_o commandment_n while_o it_o be_v find_v that_o there-upon_o they_o do_v more_o licentiouslie_o contemn_v god_n commandment_n in_o many_o thing_n for_o the_o nature_n of_o man_n be_v stubborn_a which_o since_o it_o be_v forsake_v of_o the_o state_n of_o originalliustice_n it_o be_v carry_v more_o greedelie_o unto_o those_o thing_n that_o be_v of_o man_n invention_n than_o those_o that_o be_v of_o god_n bid_n and_o this_o be_v one_o degree_n of_o pride_n which_o bernard_n say_v be_v find_v among_o religious_a man_n while_o they_o rejoice_v more_o in_o abstinence_n or_o particular_a voluntary_a prayer_n then_o in_o all_o the_o regular_a discipline_n again_o the_o law_n of_o christ_n be_v set_v forth_o sufficient_o by_o the_o apostle_n and_o holy_a doctor_n be_v not_o find_v to_o have_v appoint_v such_o novelty_n of_o man_n whip_v themselves_o either_o by_o preach_v or_o otherwise_o but_o rather_o to_o have_v reproove_v they_o as_o most_o suspect_v and_o dangerous_a and_o which_o may_v grow_v to_o the_o slander_n of_o christianes_n among_o the_o jew_n saracen_n and_o pagan_n as_o though_o the_o law_n of_o christ_n be_v austere_a cruel_a and_o nourish_v in_o blood_n not_o in_o mercy_n afterward_o he_o set_v down_o reason_n to_o dissuade_v this_o superstition_n as_o he_o call_v it_o let_v diligent_a and_o earnest_a exhortation_n be_v make_v touch_v the_o praise_n of_o patience_n which_o have_v her_o perfect_a work_n prefer_v it_o before_o such_o voluntary_a whip_n as_o augustine_n say_v agreeable_o to_o seneca_n that_o the_o adversity_n of_o this_o world_n be_v not_o so_o much_o to_o be_v lay_v upon_o we_o as_o when_o they_o happen_v patient_o to_o be_v suffer_v make_v through_o patience_n a_o virtue_n of_o necessity_n i_o be_o not_o so_o mad_a say_v seneca_n that_o i_o will_v be_v sick_a but_o if_o i_o must_v be_v sick_a i_o will_v bear_v it_o patient_o therefore_o there_o must_v be_v reckon_v up_o diligent_o and_o severallie_o the_o diverse_a tribulationes_fw-la sometime_o temporal_a sometime_o spiritual_a which_o daielie_o do_v give_v and_o offer_v to_o we_o whether_o we_o will_v or_o will_v matter_n of_o patience_n such_o as_o be_v sickness_n poverty_n &c_n &c_n and_o who_o be_v able_a to_o number_v all_o such_o tribulation_n which_o be_v such_o and_o so_o many_o that_o we_o must_v not_o bring_v upon_o ourselves_o new_a sorrow_n for_o the_o valiant_a suffering_n of_o such_o daily_a tribulation_n be_v enough_o for_o the_o purge_n of_o great_a sin_n especial_o if_o contrition_n be_v increase_v and_o humble_a confession_n in_o deed_n or_o purpose_n etc._n etc._n yea_o the_o same_o gerson_n say_v far_o imò_fw-la sicut_fw-la non_fw-la licet_fw-la etc._n etc._n as_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a for_o a_o man_n of_o his_o own_o authority_n to_o maim_n or_o gelde_v himself_o except_o it_o be_v for_o the_o health_n of_o the_o whole_a body_n so_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a as_o it_o seem_v that_o a_o man_n shall_v violent_o draw_v blood_n of_o himself_o except_o it_o be_v for_o bodelie_a physic_n or_o else_o by_o the_o like_a reason_n a_o man_n may_v burn_v himself_o with_o a_o hot_a iron_n which_o no_o man_n have_v hold_v or_o grant_v hitherto_o except_o perhaps_o idolater_n or_o false_a christian_n such_o as_o be_v find_v in_o india_n which_o think_v that_o they_o ought_v to_o be_v baptize_v with_o fire_n final_o gerson_n allow_v no_o whip_n except_o it_o be_v enjoin_v as_o penance_n and_o that_o it_o be_v execute_v by_o another_o man_n and_o that_o moderate_o and_o without_o offence_n give_v or_o ostentation_n and_o last_o of_o all_o without_o draw_v of_o blood_n and_o this_o book_n of_o gerson_n as_o you_o wot_v be_v in_o print_n to_o answer_v your_o question_n be_v there_o ever_o honest_a man_n but_o master_n charke_n that_o will_v have_v object_v so_o impertinent_a a_o thing_n in_o print_n as_o be_v the_o whip_n of_o man_n by_o themselves_o upon_o any_o false_o pretend_a need_n of_o mortification_n but_o master_n charke_n make_v you_o laugh_v when_o he_o say_v the_o sect_n of_o whipper_n be_v condemn_v long_o ago_o you_o ask_v how_o long_o and_o by_o who_o for_o they_o begin_v anno_fw-la 1273._o under_o pope_n gregory_n the_o 10._o and_o be_v condemn_v both_o by_o he_o and_o his_o successor_n by_o which_o authority_n luther_n and_o caluine_n be_v likewise_o condemn_v a_o high_a point_n in_o a_o low_a house_n as_o though_o the_o authority_n by_o which_o man_n be_v condemn_v be_v all_o the_o matter_n not_o the_o cause_n for_o which_o adultery_n be_v condemn_v by_o mahomet_n and_o by_o the_o same_o authority_n the_o gospel_n of_o christ_n be_v it_o not_o lawful_a to_o approve_v the_o one_o condemnation_n except_o a_o man_n allow_v the_o other_o no_o marvel_n though_o you_o laugh_v at_o this_o matter_n for_o indeed_o it_o be_v very_o ridiculous_a as_o most_o of_o your_o collection_n be_v and_o whereas_o you_o affirm_v that_o pope_n gregory_n the_o 10._o do_v condemn_v these_o flagellantes_fw-la i_o suppose_v you_o be_v not_o able_a to_o bring_v any_o author_n of_o credit_n that_o so_o do_v write_v for_o in_o his_o time_n they_o spring_v up_o and_o continue_v almost_o fourscore_o year_n without_o any_o solemn_a condemnation_n for_o any_o thing_n that_o prateolus_n or_o who_o so_o write_v most_o diligent_o of_o here_o sie_fw-la can_v testify_v prateolus_n out_o of_o carion_n show_v that_o 1343._o they_o come_v to_o spire_n in_o germany_n when_o the_o diet_n of_o the_o empire_n be_v keep_v and_o through_o opinion_n of_o great_a holiness_n have_v good_a entertainment_n tandem_fw-la verò_fw-la damnata_fw-la est_fw-la at_o length_n say_v he_o this_o sect_n be_v condemn_v and_o extinguish_v with_o fire_n
solùm_fw-la peccata_fw-la omne_fw-la quorum_fw-la nunc_fw-la remissio_fw-la fit_a in_o baptism_n que_fw-fr reos_fw-la faciunt_fw-la dum_fw-la desideriis_fw-la vitiosis_fw-la consentitur_fw-la 〈◊〉_d peccator_fw-la verumetiam_fw-la ipsa_fw-la desideria_fw-la vitiosa_fw-la quibus_fw-la si_fw-la non_fw-la consentitur_fw-la nullus_fw-la peccati_fw-la reatus_fw-la contraehitur_fw-la quae_fw-la non_fw-la in_o ista_fw-la sed_fw-la in_o alia_fw-la vita_fw-la nulla_fw-la erunt_fw-la eodem_fw-la lavacro_fw-la baptismatis_fw-la universa_fw-la pur_fw-it gantur_fw-la not_o only_o all_o sin_n whereof_o there_o be_v no_o we_o remission_n in_o baptism_n which_o make_v man_n guilty_a while_o they_o consent_v to_o vicious_a desire_n and_o to_o sin_n but_o even_o those_o vicious_a desire_n also_o to_o which_o if_o consent_n be_v not_o yield_v no_o guilt_n of_o sin_n be_v contarct_v which_o not_o in_o this_o life_n but_o in_o the_o other_o life_n shall_v be_v none_o at_o all_o be_v altogether_o purge_v in_o the_o same_o laver_n of_o baptism_n now_o whether_o a_o christian_a man_n need_n to_o say_v forgive_v we_o our_o debt_n for_o his_o vicious_a or_o wicked_a desire_n although_o he_o consent_v not_o unto_o they_o you_o define_v out_o of_o saint_n austin_n that_o he_o need_v not_o and_o quote_v ep._n 200._o ad_fw-la asell_n where_o he_o say_v that_o if_o we_o do_v not_o at_o all_o follow_v our_o concupiscence_n and_o although_o the_o desire_n of_o sin_n be_v in_o we_o while_o we_o be_v in_o this_o mortal_a body_n yet_o if_o we_o give_v consent_n to_o none_o of_o they_o there_o be_v not_o for_o which_o we_o shall_v say_v to_o our_o father_n which_o be_v in_o heaven_n forgive_v we_o our_o debt_n yet_o shall_v we_o not_o be_v such_o as_o we_o shall_v be_v after_o this_o mortal_a have_v put_v on_o immortality_n for_o then_o there_o shall_v be_v in_o we_o no_o desire_n of_o sin_n second_o you_o quote_v conc_fw-fr 3._o in_o ps._n where_o he_o answer_v this_o question_n in_o these_o word_n quantum_fw-la quidemeg_n sapere_fw-la possum_fw-la etc._n etc._n as_o far_o as_o i_o can_v perceive_v the_o whole_a guilt_n of_o the_o disease_n and_o infirmity_n from_o whence_o those_o unlawful_a desire_n be_v move_v which_o the_o apostle_n call_v sin_n be_v loose_v by_o the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n with_o all_o those_o that_o obey_v it_o we_o have_v do_v say_v or_o think_v neither_o shall_v this_o disease_n hereafter_o hurt_v we_o though_o it_o be_v in_o we_o if_o we_o yield_v obedience_n to_o none_o of_o the_o unlawful_a desire_n thereof_o at_o any_o time_n either_o in_o work_n speech_n or_o secretassen_v until_o the_o sickness_n itself_o be_v heal_v when_o that_o which_o we_o pray_v for_o be_v fullfil_v either_o when_o we_o say_v thy_o kingdom_n come_v or_o when_o we_o say_v deliver_v we_o from_o evil_a thirdlie_o you_o quote_v the_o perfect_a iustisiae_fw-la c._n ultimo_fw-la where_o against_o the_o pelagian_o which_o hold_v that_o a_o man_n may_v be_v just_a without_o actual_a sin_n although_o he_o can_v not_o be_v without_o concupiscence_n which_o be_v call_v sin_n because_o it_o be_v sin_n to_o consent_v untoit_fw-fr and_o be_v move_v against_o our_o will_n he_o have_v these_o word_n subtiliter_fw-la quidemista_fw-la discernit_fw-la etc._n etc._n he_o that_o so_o say_v discern_v these_o thing_n subtle_o but_o let_v he_o be_v advise_v what_o be_v do_v in_o the_o lord_n prayer_n where_o we_o say_v for_o give_v we_o 〈◊〉_d debt_n quòd_fw-la nist_n fallar_fw-la which_o except_o i_o be_v deceive_v it_o be_v no_o need_n to_o say_v if_o we_o do_v neeur_fw-fr consent_n never_o solitle_o to_o the_o desire_n of_o the_o same_o sin_n either_o in_o drip_v of_o tongue_n or_o in_o delight_n of_o thought_n but_o only_o we_o shall_v say_v lead_v we_o not_o into_o temptation_n but_o deliver_v we_o from_o evil_a last_o you_o quote_v cont._n 〈◊〉_d epist._n pel._n lib._n 1._o cap._n 13._o nec_fw-la propter_fw-la ipsum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d iam_fw-la etc._n etc._n neither_o for_o this_o concupiscence_n who_o guilt_n be_v already_o confumed_a in_o the_o laver_n of_o regeneration_n the_o baptize_v say_v in_o their_o prayer_n forgive_v we_o our_o debt_n &c_n &c_n out_o of_o all_o these_o place_n this_o i_o may_v gather_v first_o that_o saint_n augustine_n do_v not_o so_o constant_o affirm_v as_o you_o say_v as_o a_o doctrine_n most_o certain_a but_o modest_o deliver_v his_o opinion_n say_v as_o far_o as_o my_o wisdom_n serve_v and_o except_o i_o be_v deceive_v secondliehe_fw-ge speak_v not_o of_o those_o motion_n that_o be_v in_o we_o which_o consent_n to_o some_o though_o not_o to_o all_o of_o they_o but_o in_o case_n we_o never_o consent_v to_o any_o of_o they_o three_o he_o render_v his_o reason_n because_o they_o he_o already_o forgive_v to_o theregenerate_v in_o baptism_n and_o sorthlie_a he_o call_v they_o unlawful_a desire_n of_o sin_n against_o which_o we_o pray_v to_o be_v deliver_v so_o that_o all_o thing_n weigh_v as_o you_o have_v saint_n augustine_n in_o some_o sort_n favourable_a to_o the_o word_n of_o your_o assertion_n in_o this_o piont_n yet_o he_o be_v not_o so_o rank_n and_o full_a one_o your_o side_n in_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o matter_n as_o you_o will_v bear_v we_o in_o hand_n now_o follow_v a_o number_n of_o cavillation_n against_o m._n charke_n word_n which_o i_o will_v brief_o run_v over_o first_o where_o he_o say_v be_v not_o all_o the_o first_o motion_n of_o just_a mere_o natural_a and_o ever_o more_o of_o some_o cause_n give_v by_o we_o and_o dwell_v within_o we_o namely_o the_o corruption_n of_o adam_n this_o fond_a 〈◊〉_d say_v you_o include_v two_o contrary_n for_o of_o they_o be_v meerlie_o natural_a then_o be_v they_o not_o of_o any_o cause_n give_v by_o us._n this_o fond_a argument_n say_v i_o have_v two_o fault_n one_o be_v ambiguity_n seek_v where_o it_o need_v not_o in_o the_o word_n meerelie_o natural_a which_o master_n charke_n show_v to_o be_v by_o corruption_n of_o nature_n and_o then_o the_o consequent_a follow_v not_o for_o to_o that_o corruption_n cause_n be_v give_v by_o we_o and_o in_o we_o in_o the_o sin_n of_o adam_n secondlie_o you_o say_v that_o it_o be_v false_a that_o all_o first_o motion_n of_o just_a be_v mere_o natural_a for_o in_o lewd_a man_n they_o be_v often_o voluntary_a jump_v as_o you_o be_v wont_a to_o say_v for_o if_o will_v go_v before_o they_o then_o be_v they_o not_o first_o we_o speak_v of_o motion_n which_o go_v before_o will_v and_o therefore_o be_v call_v first_o motion_n wherefore_o your_o example_n of_o awake_v a_o mad_a dog_n and_o distinction_n of_o natural_a in_o the_o root_n and_o voluntary_a in_o the_o branch_n do_v not_o excuse_v but_o increase_v your_o heap_n of_o waste_a word_n as_o when_o you_o be_v awake_a you_o may_v perceive_v another_o cavillation_n you_o have_v that_o master_n charke_n deceitful_o avoid_v the_o simulitude_n of_o first_o motion_n with_o the_o pulse_n because_o they_o be_v not_o like_a in_o all_o thing_n which_o be_v untrue_a but_o because_o they_o be_v not_o like_a in_o quality_n in_o the_o which_o they_o be_v compare_v for_o the_o first_o motion_n unto_o sin_n be_v evil_a vicious_a unlawful_a as_o saint_n augustine_n call_v they_o so_o be_v not_o the_o motion_n of_o the_o pulse_n therefore_o not_o like_a but_o while_o he_o reason_v against_o your_o example_n of_o the_o pulse_n he_o utter_v three_o foúle_a absurdity_n &_o most_o gross_a error_n if_o we_o believe_v you_o which_o be_v they_o say_v on_o &_o take_v heed_n you_o lie_v not_o the_o first_o be_v that_o he_o place_v concupiscence_n of_o the_o flesh_n whereof_o we_o talk_v in_o the_o reasonable_a part_n of_o the_o mind_n and_o 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o sensitive_a part_n that_o be_v false_a for_o his_o word_n be_v you_o can_v conclude_v from_o that_o part_n of_o our_o soul_n whereby_o we_o have_v life_n and_o sense_n only_o to_o that_o part_n where_o in_o our_o reason_n and_o affection_n be_v place_v in_o these_o word_n he_o deni_v not_o concupiscence_n unto_o the_o sensitive_a part_n but_o extend_v it_o to_o the_o reasonable_a part_n where_o also_o the_o affection_n be_v where_o virtue_n and_o vice_n have_v their_o seat_n in_o as_o much_o as_o the_o reasonable_a soul_n be_v distinguish_v into_o two_o pars_fw-la the_o one_o that_o use_v reason_n the_o other_o that_o shall_v obey_v reason_n and_o therefore_o you_o speak_v very_o grosselie_o and_o false_o when_o you_o say_v the_o first_o motion_n be_v nothing_o else_o but_o the_o rebellion_n of_o our_o sensitive_a part_n and_o your_o reason_n be_v as_o gross_a in_o divinity_n as_o your_o position_n be_v in_o philosophy_n because_o it_o be_v call_v flesh_n and_o the_o concupiscence_n of_o the_o flesh_n etc._n etc._n where_o flesh_n signify_v the_o whole_a corruption_n of_o man_n as_o it_o be_v manifest_a by_o the_o work_n of_o the_o flesh_n rehearse_v by_o saint_n paul_n in_o the_o text_n you_o
in_o express_a word_n absolve_v many_o of_o their_o sin_n conceive_v in_o their_o heart_n as_o it_o be_v record_v by_o saint_n matthew_n in_o the_o history_n of_o the_o heal_n of_o the_o man_n that_o have_v the_o palsy_n that_o christ_n do_v injury_n to_o god_n and_o 9_o commit_v blasphemy_n in_o take_v upon_o he_o to_o remit_v man_n offence_n who_o malicious_a mind_n and_o cogitation_n christ_n do_v so_o reprehend_v that_o they_o may_v well_o perceive_v by_o his_o sight_n of_o their_o inward_a secret_n that_o he_o be_v very_a god_n who_o only_o by_o nature_n look_v into_o man_n heart_n and_o therefore_o do_v thereby_o well_o insinuate_v that_o they_o can_v not_o justly_o reprehend_v his_o do_n see_v he_o be_v god_n in_o deed_n and_o may_v as_o god_n pardon_v man_n offence_n yet_o that_o notwithstanding_o he_o stand_v not_o with_o they_o then_o upon_o the_o right_n of_o his_o godhead_n for_o the_o do_v of_o this_o excellent_a function_n which_o in_o deed_n by_o nature_n and_o property_n be_v only_o pertain_v to_o he_o but_o he_o give_v this_o reason_n of_o his_o do_v that_o the_o son_n of_o man_n have_v power_n to_o remit_v sin_n in_o earth_n whereby_o i_o seem_v wherein_o yet_o i_o submit_v my_o judgement_n to_o the_o more_o learned_a that_o he_o plain_o profess_v that_o by_o power_n receive_v he_o may_v in_o respect_n of_o his_o manhood_n and_o calling_n forgive_v sinner_n and_o that_o in_o earth_n as_o mean_v thereby_o to_o institute_v a_o order_n and_o way_n how_o to_o remit_v sin_n here_o in_o the_o world_n either_o by_o himself_o or_o by_o his_o minister_n at_o who_o sentence_n pass_v in_o earth_n the_o penitent_a shall_v be_v frree_n by_o judgement_n of_o god_n in_o heaven_n for_o so_o our_o saviour_n two_o or_o three_o time_n talk_v of_o man_n ministry_n in_o the_o remission_n of_o 〈◊〉_d term_v it_o lose_v in_o earth_n and_o the_o contrary_a bind_v in_o earth_n as_o also_o he_o call_v god_n high_a sentence_n in_o the_o same_o cause_n lose_v and_o bind_v in_o heaven_n neither_o do_v the_o interpretation_n of_o saint_n hilary_n any_o whit_n hinder_v my_o meaning_n who_o upon_o that_o place_n affirm_v christ_n to_o have_v remit_v this_o 18_o man_n sin_n by_o the_o might_n of_o his_o godheade_n for_o it_o stand_v well_o that_o one_o work_n shall_v be_v wrought_v by_o the_o principal_a cause_n and_o yet_o by_o the_o office_n and_o ministry_n of_o some_o secondary_a cause_n appoint_v by_o the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n for_o the_o same_o use_n as_o we_o see_v in_o baptism_n to_o the_o remission_n of_o the_o child_n sin_n both_o the_o might_n of_o god_n and_o the_o ministry_n of_o man_n to_o concur_v at_o once_o whereof_o we_o shall_v have_v i_o trust_v better_a occasion_n to_o speak_v anon_o fulke_v it_o be_v well_o that_o you_o can_v make_v such_o light_a account_n of_o such_o as_o shall_v object_v against_o you_o that_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a for_o man_n to_o usurp_v any_o thing_n which_o be_v proper_a to_o god_n as_o be_v the_o absolute_a power_n to_o forgive_v sin_n which_o none_o can_v proper_o and_o absolute_o forgive_v but_o he_o against_o who_o they_o be_v commit_v therefore_o there_o be_v a_o broad_a difference_n between_o the_o power_n of_o god_n and_o the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o man_n in_o forgive_a of_o sin_n god_n do_v absolute_o and_o proper_o forgive_v sin_n commit_v against_o his_o law_n and_o majesty_n man_n by_o his_o appointment_n do_v assure_v the_o penitent_a sinner_n of_o his_o sin_n forgive_v by_o god_n and_o therefore_o in_o some_o phrase_n of_o 〈◊〉_d be_v say_v to_o forgive_v sin_n as_o he_o be_v say_v to_o save_v man_n soul_n to_o who_o he_o preach_v the_o salvation_n by_o jesus_n christ._n the_o scribe_n do_v right_o affirm_v that_o none_o can_v forgive_v sin_n but_o god_n only_o but_o they_o err_v in_o that_o they_o do_v not_o acknowledge_v christ_n to_o be_v god_n who_o in_o the_o person_n of_o the_o mediator_n even_o in_o that_o state_n of_o humility_n in_o which_o he_o be_v conversant_a upon_o earth_n be_v no_o whit_n abridge_v of_o his_o divine_a authority_n but_o that_o he_o may_v by_o the_o same_o power_n forgive_v sin_n that_o he_o do_v heal_v disease_n and_o whereas_o he_o say_v that_o the_o son_n of_o man_n have_v power_n to_o forgive_v sin_n upon_o earth_n he_o mean_v not_o that_o he_o have_v it_o as_o mere_a man_n but_o as_o god_n and_o man_n in_o one_o person_n and_o that_o his_o manhood_n be_v not_o let_v unto_o he_o to_o exercise_v that_o power_n of_o his_o godheade_n john_n 3._o he_o say_v the_o son_n of_o man_n come_v down_o from_o heaven_n and_o that_o the_o son_n of_o man_n be_v in_o heaven_n but_o this_o be_v not_o to_o be_v understand_v of_o the_o son_n of_o man_n according_a to_o his_o manhood_n but_o according_a to_o his_o godhead_n as_o many_o other_o such_o speech_n be_v in_o the_o scripture_n which_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o person_n ascribe_v to_o the_o one_o nature_n that_o which_o be_v proper_a to_o the_o other_o as_o act._n 20._o to_o feed_v the_o church_n of_o god_n which_o he_o have_v redeem_v with_o his_o own_o blood_n where_o redemption_n by_o his_o blood_n be_v affirm_v of_o god_n which_o be_v proper_a and_o true_a in_o respect_n of_o christ_n humanity_n your_o modesty_n be_v commendable_a that_o you_o do_v submit_v yourself_o to_o the_o judgement_n of_o other_o in_o that_o your_o conceit_n of_o christ_n meaning_n thereby_o to_o institute_v a_o order_n etc._n etc._n for_o the_o order_n that_o he_o have_v institute_v and_o the_o power_n that_o he_o have_v give_v of_o bind_v and_o lose_v in_o earth_n be_v else_o where_o plain_o and_o purposedlie_o set_v forth_o that_o we_o need_v not_o such_o unnecessary_a &_o unlikelie_a conjecture_n to_o ground_n it_o upon_o and_o whereas_o you_o affirm_v that_o the_o interpretation_n of_o saint_n hilary_n do_v not_o any_o whit_n hinder_v your_o meaning_n because_o one_o work_n may_v be_v wrought_v by_o the_o principal_a cause_n and_o yet_o by_o the_o office_n and_o ministry_n of_o some_o secundarie_n i_o answer_v the_o question_n be_v not_o what_o may_v be_v but_o what_o be_v do_v in_o that_o case_n whereof_o saint_n hilary_n judgement_n be_v flat_a against_o you_o his_o word_n be_v in_o mat._n come_v canon_n 8._o movet_fw-la scribas_fw-la remissum_fw-la ab_fw-la homine_fw-la peccatum_fw-la hominem_fw-la enim_fw-la tantùm_fw-la in_o jesu_fw-la christo_fw-la confitebantur_fw-la &_o remissum_fw-la ab_fw-la eo_fw-la quod_fw-la lex_fw-la laxare_fw-la non_fw-la poteratifides_fw-la enim_fw-la 〈◊〉_d iustificat_fw-la deinde_fw-la murmurationem_fw-la eorum_fw-la dominus_fw-la introspicit_fw-la dicitque_fw-la facilè_fw-la esse_fw-la filio_fw-la hominis_fw-la in_o terra_fw-la peccata_fw-la dimittere_fw-la verùm_fw-la enim_fw-la nemo_fw-la potest_fw-la dimittere_fw-la pecoata_fw-la nisi_fw-la solus_fw-la deus_fw-la ergo_fw-la quiremittit_fw-la deus_fw-la est_fw-la quia_fw-la nemo_fw-la remittie_n nisi_fw-la deus_fw-la deus_fw-la in_o homine_fw-la manens_fw-la curationem_fw-la homini_fw-la praestabat_fw-la &_o nulla_fw-la ei_fw-la agendi_fw-la aut_fw-la loquendi_fw-la erat_fw-la difficultas_fw-la cvi_fw-la subest_fw-la totum_fw-la posse_fw-la quod_fw-la loquor_fw-la porro_fw-la autem_fw-la ut_fw-la ipse_fw-la in_o corpore_fw-la positus_fw-la intelligi_fw-la possit_fw-la esse_fw-la qui_fw-la &_o animus_fw-la peccata_fw-la dimitteret_fw-la &_o resurrectionem_fw-la corporibus_fw-la prestaret_fw-la ait_fw-la ut_fw-la siatis_fw-la quoniam_fw-la silius_fw-la hominis_fw-la habet_fw-la potectatem_fw-la in_o terra_fw-la dimittendi_fw-la peccata_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o move_v the_o scribe_n that_o sin_n be_v remit_v by_o a_o man_n for_o they_o do_v behold_v a_o man_n only_o in_o jesus_n christ_n and_o that_o to_o be_v remit_v by_o he_o which_o the_o law_n can_v not_o release_v for_o faith_n alone_o do_v justify_v afterward_o our_o lord_n look_v into_o their_o murmur_a and_o say_v that_o it_o be_v easy_a for_o the_o son_n of_o man_n on_o earth_n to_o forgive_v sin_n but_o none_o true_o can_v forgive_v sin_n but_o god_n alone_o therefore_o he_o which_o forgive_v be_v god_n be_v ause_fw-la no_o man_n remit_v but_o god_n god_n abide_v in_o man_n perform_v heal_v to_o the_o man_n and_o there_o be_v no_o difficulty_n to_o he_o of_o do_v or_o speak_v who_o have_v power_n so_o be_v able_a to_o do_v all_o that_o he_o speak_v but_o that_o he_o be_v place_v in_o the_o body_n may_v be_v understand_v to_o be_v the_o same_o which_o forgive_v sin_n to_o man_n soul_n and_o perform_v resurrection_n to_o their_o body_n he_o say_v that_o you_o may_v know_v that_o the_o son_n of_o man_n have_v power_n on_o earth_n to_o forgive_v sin_n etc._n etc._n let_v the_o reader_n judge_v whether_o saint_n hilary_n do_v any_o whit_n in_o these_o word_n hinder_v your_o meaning_n and_o yet_o more_o plain_o saint_n chrysostome_n control_v your_o meaning_n and_o speak_v expresselie_o and_o direct_o against_o it_o in_o mat._n hom._n
to_o us._n so_o that_o after_o that_o day_n no_o sin_n mortal_a can_v ordinarie_o be_v loose_v but_o by_o they_o &_o that_o sacrament_n which_o in_o their_o ministry_n he_o then_o do_v institute_v fulke_v now_o you_o come_v toward_o the_o point_n when_o you_o promise_n to_o let_v we_o see_v how_o your_o popish_a confession_n be_v of_o christ_n institution_n it_o depend_v you_o say_v direct_o upon_o christ_n own_a word_n who_o sin_n you_o do_v forgive_v etc._n etc._n that_o will_v we_o fain_o see_v how_o for_o you_o yourself_o though_o you_o make_v a_o very_a disorderly_a syliogisme_n can_v tell_v which_o way_n to_o infer_v it_o upon_o your_o premise_n but_o thus_o you_o reason_n if_o christ_n give_v power_n to_o priest_n to_o forgive_v or_o retain_v sin_n than_o there_o must_v needs_o be_v some_o subject_n to_o their_o power_n and_o judgement_n i_o answer_v you_o that_o every_o power_n draw_v not_o a_o judgement_n with_o it_o and_o therefore_o you_o foist_v in_o the_o word_n judgement_n unreasonablie_o although_o i_o grant_v also_o a_o kind_n of_o judgement_n unto_o they_o and_o that_o man_n be_v subject_a to_o this_o power_n and_o iudegment_n of_o the_o minister_n by_o who_o be_v declare_v the_o infallible_a sentence_n of_o god_n then_o say_v you_o it_o be_v a_o clear_a case_n that_o in_o the_o very_a same_o word_n that_o power_n be_v deliver_v to_o they_o the_o bond_n of_o obedience_n be_v also_o prescribe_v to_o us._n of_o what_o obedience_n i_o pray_v you_o that_o we_o shall_v obey_v they_o in_o any_o thing_n they_o shall_v speak_v or_o only_o when_o they_o speak_v in_o the_o word_n of_o the_o lord_n if_o the_o latter_a only_o for_o no_o man_n will_v grant_v the_o former_a show_v we_o if_o you_o be_v able_a the_o lord_n word_n and_o commandment_n for_o sacramental_a confesson_n as_o you_o term_v it_o to_o be_v necessary_a your_o conclusion_n hang_v as_o well_o by_o your_o premise_n as_o confession_n dependeh_a upon_o christ_n word_n that_o after_o that_o date_n no_o sin_n mortal_a can_v ordinary_o be_v loose_v 〈◊〉_d by_o they_o and_o in_o that_o sacrament_n which_o in_o their_o ministry_n he_o then_o do_v institute_v all_o sin_n be_v mortal_a and_o deserve_a death_n the_o wage_n of_o sin_n say_v the_o apostle_n be_v death_n but_o your_o conclusion_n be_v confute_v by_o yourself_o afterward_o grant_v sin_n to_o be_v remit_v 6._o by_o baptism_n and_o as_o for_o other_o sacrament_n i_o dare_v say_v you_o will_v not_o exempt_v they_o but_o that_o sin_n be_v forgive_v by_o they_o and_o that_o which_o be_v the_o chief_a matter_n in_o controversy_n namely_o that_o a_o sacrament_n be_v there_o and_o then_o institute_v you_o always_o affirm_v but_o never_o be_v able_a to_o prove_v and_o whereas_o you_o affirm_v that_o the_o necessity_n of_o auricular_a confession_n stand_v not_o upon_o positive_a law_n but_o by_o christ_n institution_n it_o be_v marvel_n that_o this_o institution_n shall_v so_o many_o hundred_o year_n be_v unknown_a in_o the_o church_n the_o master_n of_o the_o sentence_n can_v say_v nothing_o for_o it_o but_o allege_v diverse_a authority_n to_o and_o fro_o and_o in_o the_o end_n have_v no_o certain_a argument_n to_o persuade_v we_o that_o it_o be_v of_o christ_n institution_n gratian_n likewise_o in_o his_o decree_n after_o diverse_a testimony_n producted_v on_o both_o side_n whether_o it_o be_v necessary_a or_o no_o conclude_v in_o these_o word_n quib_n authoritatibus_fw-la vel_fw-la quibuslibetrationum_fw-la firmamentis_fw-la utroque_fw-la sententia_fw-la satisfactionis_fw-la &_o confessionis_fw-la innitatur_fw-la in_o medium_n breviter_fw-la exposuimus_fw-la cvi_fw-la autem_fw-la harum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d adhaerendum_fw-la sit_fw-la 〈◊〉_d be_v iudicio_fw-la referatur_fw-la viraque_fw-la enim_fw-la 〈◊〉_d habet_fw-la sarientes_fw-la &_o religi_fw-la osor_fw-la viros_fw-la upon_o what_o authorite_n and_o what_o fundation_n of_o reason_n both_o the_o judgement_n of_o satisfaction_n and_o confession_n do_v lean_a we_o have_v brief_o bring_v forth_o and_o declare_v but_o to_o whether_o of_o these_o we_o ought_v chief_o to_o stick_v it_o be_v reserve_v to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o reader_n for_o either_o of_o both_o opinion_n have_v wise_a and_o religious_a man_n favourer_n of_o it_o if_o the_o romish_a church_n in_o gratianstime_n have_v receive_v the_o opinion_n of_o the_o necessity_n of_o shrift_n to_o a_o priest_n to_o be_v ground_v upon_o the_o institution_n of_o christ_n neither_o he_o nor_o the_o master_n of_o the_o sentence_n will_v have_v be_v in_o such_o a_o mamere_n about_o it_o wherefore_o it_o appear_v to_o be_v but_o young_a ware_n the_o institution_n whereof_o be_v so_o uncertain_a to_o those_o principal_a pillar_n of_o popery_n in_o so_o much_o that_o the_o gloss_n upon_o the_o 5._o aistinct_a in_o penitentia_fw-la be_v bold_a to_o utter_v these_o word_n which_o shall_v have_v prove_v he_o a_o heretic_n if_o the_o popish_a church_n in_o his_o time_n have_v hold_v that_o confession_n be_v of_o christ_n institution_n and_o not_o upon_o any_o positive_a law_n in_o hac_fw-la distinctione_n &_o in_o aliis_fw-la duabus_fw-la sequentibus_fw-la agitur_fw-la 〈◊〉_d de_fw-la illa_fw-la parte_fw-la poenitentiae_fw-la que_fw-la dicitur_fw-la oris_fw-la confessio_fw-la &_o operis_fw-la satisfactio_fw-la quà m_fw-la de_fw-la aliis_fw-la &_o ider_v videndum_fw-la est_fw-la 〈◊〉_d oris_fw-la confessio_fw-la fuerit_fw-la instituta_fw-la virum_fw-la necessaria_fw-la sit_fw-la vel_fw-la 〈◊〉_d voluntaria_fw-la qualiter_fw-la sit_fw-la facienda_fw-la &_o cvi_fw-la et_fw-la quando_fw-la dicunt_fw-la quidam_fw-la institutam_fw-la fuisse_fw-la in_o paradiso_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d peccatum_fw-la dicente_fw-la donino_n ad_fw-la adam_n adam_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ideo_fw-la enim_fw-la 〈◊〉_d ut_fw-la ipso_fw-la conficente_fw-la peccatum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d sorma_fw-la aliis_fw-la in_o posterum_fw-la confitendi_fw-la sed_fw-la quoniam_fw-la in_o ille_fw-la interrogatione_fw-la dominus_fw-la minùs_fw-la expressè_fw-la videbatur_fw-la adconfirendum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d idro_fw-la post_fw-la exquisivit_fw-la á_fw-fr cain_n fratricida_fw-la expressiâ—s_fw-la ubi_fw-la est_fw-la abel_n frater_fw-la tuus_fw-la alij_fw-la dicunt_fw-la quód_fw-la sub_fw-la lege_fw-la primò_fw-la instituta_fw-la quando_fw-la josua_n percepit_fw-la aâ—hor_fw-la â—rimen_fw-la sâ—um_fw-la confiteri_fw-la â—â—_o lapidatus_fw-la est_fw-la 45._o do_v secundum_fw-la &_o illud_fw-la alij_fw-la dicunt_fw-la quód_fw-la in_o novo_fw-la testamento_fw-la á_fw-fr jacobo_fw-la dicente_fw-la consitemini_fw-la alterâ—â—â—um_fw-la peccata_fw-la vestra_fw-la etc._n etc._n sed_fw-la melius_fw-la dicitur_fw-la eam_fw-la institutam_fw-la fuisse_fw-la a_o quâ—dâ—m_fw-la universale_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la traditione_n potius_fw-la quám_fw-la ex_fw-la novo_fw-la vel_fw-la veteri_fw-la testamento_fw-la authoritâ—s_fw-la &_o traditio_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la obligatoria_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la preceptum_fw-la ait_fw-la 1.1_o di_fw-it in_o his_o rebus_fw-la ergo_fw-la necessaria_fw-la est_fw-la confessio_fw-la in_o mortalib_a apud_fw-la nos_fw-la apud_fw-la graecos_fw-la non_fw-la quoniam_fw-la non_fw-la emanavit_fw-la apud_fw-la illos_fw-la traditio_fw-la talis_fw-la 〈◊〉_d nec_fw-la confisiunt_fw-la in_o 〈◊〉_d say_v in_o firmentatis_fw-la 5._o di_o cap._n 1._o si_fw-la illud_fw-la ergo_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d alteruâ—rum_fw-la peccata_fw-la vestra_fw-la 〈◊〉_d consilium_fw-la primó_n aliâ—â—uin_fw-la liâ—oret_fw-la et_fw-la grecos_n non_fw-la obstanto_fw-la eorâ—â—_n consuetudine_fw-la in_o this_o distinction_n and_o the_o other_o two_o that_o follow_v it_o be_v entreat_v as_o well_o of_o that_o part_n of_o penance_n that_o be_v call_v confession_n of_o the_o mouth_n and_o satisfaction_n of_o the_o work_n as_o of_o other_o part_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v to_o be_v see_v when_o confession_n of_o the_o mouth_n be_v institute_v whether_o it_o be_v necessary_a or_o only_o voluntary_a how_o it_o be_v to_o be_v make_v and_o to_o who_o &_o when_o some_o say_v it_o be_v institute_v in_o paradise_n immediate_o after_o sin_n commit_v when_o the_o lord_n say_v unto_o adam_n adam_n where_o be_v thou_o for_o therefore_o he_o inquire_v that_o he_o confess_v his_o sin_n a_o form_n of_o confess_v shall_v be_v give_v to_o other_o afterward_o but_o because_o in_o that_o confession_n the_o lord_n secm_v not_o so_o expresselie_o to_o have_v warn_v he_o to_o confession_n therefore_o he_o inquire_v afterward_o of_o cain_n the_o murderer_n of_o his_o brother_n more_o expresselie_o where_o be_v abel_n thy_o brother_n other_o say_v it_o be_v first_o institute_v under_o the_o law_n where_o josua_n command_v achar_n to_o confess_v his_o fault_n and_o he_o be_v stone_v 45._o di_o sed_fw-la &_o illud_fw-la other_o say_v that_o it_o be_v institute_v in_o the_o new_a testament_n by_o saint_n james_n say_v confess_v your_o sin_n etc._n etc._n but_o it_o be_v better_a to_o say_v that_o it_o be_v institutad_v by_o a_o certain_a universal_a tradition_n of_o the_o church_n rather_o than_o by_o authority_n out_o of_o the_o new_a or_o old_a testament_n and_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o church_n be_v of_o authority_n to_o bind_v as_o it_o be_v command_v be_v 11._o di_o in_o these_o thing_n therefore_o confession_n in_o mortal_a sin_n be_v necessary_a with_o we_o but_o not_o with_o the_o greek_n because_o such_o tradition_n have_v
the_o church_n shall_v of_o duty_n initigate_v the_o rigour_n of_o those_o canon_n and_o not_o send_v man_n to_o seek_v pardon_n for_o they_o whereas_o many_o a_o man_n that_o have_v needc_a lack_v either_o money_n or_o other_o occasion_n to_o purchase_v pardon_n but_o if_o the_o manner_n of_o man_n be_v so_o dissolute_a as_o they_o like_v not_o straight_o penance_n they_o be_v more_o dissolute_a unto_o sin_n and_o so_o have_v need_n of_o the_o bit_n of_o straight_a penance_n to_o keep_v they_o in_o than_o the_o rain_n of_o pardon_n and_o easy_a penance_n to_o let_v they_o run_v you_o repeat_v again_o that_o this_o penance_n canonical_a be_v appoint_v not_o only_o for_o cautele_n and_o provision_n against_o the_o like_a sin_n but_o also_o for_o satisfy_v of_o god_n justice_n but_o hereof_o no_o proof_n at_o all_o but_o a_o bare_a affirmation_n allen_n the_o three_o way_n of_o punishment_n of_o temporal_a sin_n be_v by_o god_n own_o hand_n as_o when_o he_o strike_v some_o by_o sickness_n 〈◊〉_d by_o temporal_a death_n or_o by_o the_o pain_n of_o purgatory_n which_o 〈◊〉_d a_o place_n of_o temporal_a satisfaction_n &_o correction_n of_o the_o soul_n only_o in_o the_o next_o life_n thus_o be_v diverse_a of_o the_o corinthian_n cast_v into_o infir_n mite_n many_o strike_a dead_a and_o further_a also_o punish_v in_o the_o next_o world_n in_o the_o place_n of_o judgement_n there_o not_o eternal_a but_o transitory_a because_o they_o will_v not_o just_o judge_v and_o correct_v themselves_o 11._o and_o which_o be_v much_o to_o be_v note_v for_o our_o purpose_n the_o apostle_n also_o have_v authority_n give_v they_o to_o punish_v the_o offender_n often_o by_o bodelie_a vexation_n and_o death_n sometime_o that_o they_o may_v thereby_o make_v true_a show_n and_o proof_n to_o all_o the_o world_n that_o they_o and_o their_o successor_n have_v jurisdiction_n over_o the_o soul_n of_o man_n while_o they_o make_v it_o evident_a by_o manifest_a sign_n wrought_v in_o the_o face_n of_o all_o the_o world_n even_o upon_o the_o body_n themselves_o which_o be_v not_o so_o proper_o subject_a to_o the_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n as_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o faithful_a be_v though_o their_o body_n to_o for_o the_o soul_n sake_n be_v subject_a to_o the_o say_a power_n and_o not_o withstand_v the_o same_o miraculous_a force_n in_o correct_v sinner_n do_v cease_v afterwards_o yet_o the_o like_a power_n ordinary_o to_o be_v exercise_v by_o give_v penance_n and_o separate_n from_o the_o sacrament_n remain_v in_o the_o church_n right_a still_o and_o here_o we_o may_v not_o think_v that_o the_o kill_n of_o diverse_a as_o well_o by_o god_n own_o hand_n amongst_o the_o people_n of_o israel_n in_o moset_n time_n 20_o as_o of_o other_o that_o die_v of_o disease_n for_o punishment_n of_o unworthy_a receive_v the_o sacrament_n in_o saint_n paul_n daic_n or_o slea_v of_o ananias_n and_o his_o wife_n by_o s._n peter_n hand_n many_o more_o perhaps_o whereof_o there_o be_v no_o talk_n in_o the_o text_n we_o may_v not_o deny_v i_o say_v that_o these_o be_v all_o kill_v either_o of_o god_n or_o christ_n apostle_n to_o eternal_a damnation_n but_o rather_o for_o their_o temporal_a correction_n and_o the_o avoid_v of_o god_n judgement_n to_o come_v especial_o where_o any_o of_o they_o do_v repent_v they_o of_o their_o fault_n before_o their_o deserve_a death_n come_v upon_o they_o fulke_v that_o god_n strike_v by_o sickness_n or_o temporal_a death_n his_o child_n sore_o their_o chastisement_n and_o example_n of_o other_o it_o be_v very_o certain_a but_o that_o he_o send_v any_o into_o purgatory_n or_o punish_v for_o satisfaction_n of_o his_o justice_n i_o must_v still_o deny_v until_o i_o see_v it_o plain_o prove_v neither_o do_v i_o find_v that_o the_o corinthian_n which_o neglect_v to_o judge_v themselves_o in_o this_o life_n be_v punish_v with_o any_o transitory_a punishment_n in_o the_o next_o world_n that_o the_o apostle_n have_v authority_n to_o aftlict_v man_n body_n proove_v not_o that_o they_o or_o their_o successor_n have_v jurisdiction_n over_o man_n soul_n but_o their_o spiritual_a power_n be_v otherwise_o sufficient_o testify_v as_o well_o in_o retaming_a sin_n as_o in_o cast_v out_o of_o the_o church_n such_o as_o team_v by_o gentle_a discipline_n incorrigible_a concern_v all_o those_o that_o have_v be_v or_o be_v strike_v with_o the_o hand_n of_o god_n with_o temporal_a death_n we_o leave_v the_o judgement_n to_o himself_o if_o they_o do_v true_o repent_v before_o their_o death_n we_o have_v sure_a testimony_n that_o god_n have_v receive_v they_o to_o mercy_n but_o hereof_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o their_o temporal_a punishment_n be_v a_o satisfaction_n of_o god_n justice_n neither-saith_a saint_n hierome_n any_o such_o thing_n alien_n now_o by_o these_o three_o diverse_a way_n of_o correction_n for_o sinnesremit_v no_o doubt_n the_o pardon_n of_o god_n minister_n must_v be_v limit_v and_o understand_v so_o that_o whosoever_o give_v a_o pardon_n lawful_o he_o must_v either_o discharge_v the_o penitent_a of_o the_o punishment_n which_o his_o ghostly_a father_n enjoin_v he_o or_o that_o the_o old_a law_n of_o most_o holy_a counsel_n charge_v the_o like_a offender_n withal_o or_o that_o god_n himself_o enjoin_v sometime_o in_o this_o world_n but_o especial_o in_o the_o next_o life_n where_o god_n more_o exact_o &_o proper_o punish_v both_o for_o sin_n remit_v &_o not_o remit_v if_o the_o pardon_n be_v large_a it_o take_v away_o the_o whole_a pain_n if_o it_o be_v otherwise_o it_o determine_v the_o number_n of_o day_n and_o release_v not_o all_o but_o part_n of_o the_o penance_n only_o that_o be_v to_o saic_a so_o many_o day_n or_o year_n as_o in_o the_o indulgence_n be_v mention_v whereof_o no_o man_n can_v now_o be_v ignorant_a if_o he_o do_v but_o mark_v that_o the_o penance_n which_o the_o pope_n take_v upon_o he_o to_o remit_v be_v also_o limit_v by_o year_n of_o fast_v pray_v abstinence_n from_o the_o sacrament_n and_o such_o 〈◊〉_d as_o if_o your_o confessor_n have_v give_v you_o in_o penance_n to_o fast_v every_o fridaie_n bread_n and_o drink_v only_o for_o some_o notorious_a sin_n confess_v unto_o he_o than_o the_o pardon_n for_o twenty_o day_n will_v discharge_v you_o of_o so_o many_o day_n from_o your_o say_a bond_n as_o be_v name_v and_o if_o it_o be_v a_o free_a and_o plenary_a indulgence_n it_o shall_v discharge_v you_o of_o the_o bond_n of_o all_o the_o day_n or_o year_n appoint_v which_o you_o have_v not_o before_o the_o receipt_n of_o the_o say_a pardon_n accomplish_v and_o this_o be_v exceed_o plain_a for_o the_o two_o first_o kind_n of_o punishment_n which_o we_o say_v be_v adjoin_v for_o satisfaction_n by_o the_o church_n law_n and_o by_o the_o confessor_n prescription_n for_o they_o stand_v upon_o daiet_fw-mi and_o year_n so_o the_o remission_n of_o the_o same_o must_v needs_o keep_v the_o like_a form_n for_o which_o cause_n you_o shall_v see_v often_o express_v de_fw-fr poenitentiis_fw-la iniunctis_fw-la in_o the_o indulgence_n and_o that_o form_n of_o grant_n &_o remission_n be_v use_v always_o in_o god_n church_n for_o s._n cyprian_n do_v remit_v a_o great_a piece_n sometime_o de_n poenitentiis_fw-la iniunctis_fw-la inunctis_fw-la of_o the_o enjoin_v penance_n when_o he_o give_v peace_n to_o such_o as_o fall_v in_o time_n of_o persecution_n long_o before_o they_o have_v fulifil_v their_o prescribe_a penance_n and_o so_o do_v s._n paul_n to_o the_o corinthian_a that_o have_v commit_v incest_n and_o so_o do_v nice_a council_n prescribe_v to_o bishop_n that_o they_o shall_v or_o may_v at_o the_o jest_n humaniùs_fw-la agere_fw-la deal_v more_o gentle_o with_o those_o that_o deny_v their_o faith_n in_o the_o persecution_n of_o licinius_n &_o that_o they_o may_v pardon_v 11._o they_o before_o if_o they_o see_v cause_n though_o seven_o year_n penance_n be_v prescribe_v unto_o they_o in_o which_o place_n that_o the_o church_n now_o call_v a_o pardon_n or_o indulgence_n be_v term_v sometime_o donare_fw-la aliquid_fw-la in_o persona_fw-la christi_fw-la to_o give_v or_o grant_v something_o to_o the_o offender_n in_o christ_n person_n and_o so_o call_v saint_n paul_n it_z sometime_o it_o be_v call_v dare_v pacem_fw-la as_o saint_n cyprin_n term_v it_o in_o many_o place_n of_o his_o work_n sometime_o it_o be_v call_v humaniùs_fw-la agere_fw-la to_o deal_v gentle_o with_o sinner_n or_o to_o show_v unto_o they_o humanity_n and_o so_o do_v nicen_n and_o ancyran_n counsel_n term_v it_o licebit_fw-la etiam_fw-la episcopo_fw-la humanius_fw-la circa_fw-la aliquid_fw-la cogitare_fw-la it_o shall_v be_v lawful_a for_o the_o 5._o bishop_n to_o deal_v more_o curteouslie_o with_o they_o say_v the_o holy_a council_n fulke_v first_o you_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o pardon_n must_v discharge_v man_n either_o of_o all_o or_o some_o part_n of_o these_o three_o kind_n of_o
whereby_o he_o have_v set_v the_o sinner_n out_o of_o fear_n of_o all_o discipline_n &_o so_o at_o liberty_n to_o commit_v what_o wickedness_n he_o will_v without_o punishment_n whereby_o it_o appear_v how_o true_a it_o be_v that_o you_o say_v that_o the_o pope_n be_v slander_v by_o they_o that_o say_v that_o for_o money_n you_o may_v obtain_v of_o the_o pope_n a_o free_a pardon_n before_o hand_n of_o any_o grievous_a sin_n that_o you_o commit_v afterward_o when_o you_o now_o do_v acknowledge_v that_o he_o give_v pardon_v not_o only_o the_o iniunct_n be_v poenitentiis_fw-la but_o also_o the_o iniungendis_fw-la of_o penance_n to_o be_v enjoin_v which_o you_o extend_v further_o by_o interpret_n it_o of_o penance_n that_o shall_v or_o ought_v to_o be_v enjoin_v though_o it_o be_v not_o enjoin_v at_o all_o so_o that_o it_o be_v all_o one_o in_o effect_n whether_o a_o man_n have_v a_o pardon_n before_o hand_n of_o any_o grieve_v sin_n or_o whether_o he_o have_v a_o pardon_n aforehand_o of_o all_o punishment_n due_a for_o the_o same_o or_o a_o pardon_n of_o course_n as_o they_o term_v it_o for_o his_o money_n after_o he_o have_v commit_v the_o sin_n allen_n and_o this_o be_v the_o church_n meaning_n in_o give_v somanie_fw-fr day_n and_o year_n as_o be_v often_o time_n express_v in_o pardon_n in_o title_n of_o prayer_n or_o use_v of_o certain_a sanctify_a creature_n make_v holy_a by_o god_n word_n and_o prayer_n of_o which_o because_o we_o see_v not_o the_o original_n and_o because_o by_o unlawful_a practice_n of_o printer_n or_o writter_n the_o grant_v of_o diverse_a bishop_n for_o multiplication_n of_o the_o year_n may_v be_v join_v together_o against_o the_o meaning_n of_o the_o giver_n there_o may_v be_v some_o forge_a &_o not_o authentical_a yet_o we_o will_v not_o stand_v in_o that_o point_n because_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o such_o be_v indeed_o grant_v diverse_a time_n by_o they_o that_o have_v lawful_a authority_n in_o the_o church_n the_o undouted_a sense_n whereof_o though_o every_o man_n may_v easy_o understand_v by_o the_o premise_n yet_o full_o to_o open_v the_o case_n which_o be_v now_o so_o common_a in_o most_o man_n mouth_n &_o not_o well_o consider_v of_o many_o look_v how_o many_o day_n or_o year_n a_o man_n may_v deserve_v to_o be_v punish_v in_o this_o life_n if_o his_o sin_n be_v to_o the_o uttermoste_a tax_v and_o the_o appoint_a penance_n of_o the_o church_n fullfil_v so_o many_o year_n may_v the_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n remit_v and_o forgive_v by_o a_o pardon_n but_o many_o a_o man_n may_v and_o god_n know_v often_o time_n do_v commit_v so_o many_o 〈◊〉_d offence_n continue_v so_o long_o in_o sin_n live_v so_o wanton_o and_o so_o careless_o in_o all_o manner_n of_o wicked_a 〈◊〉_d even_o to_o his_o life_n end_n alalmoste_o that_o be_v convert_v by_o christer_n grace_n and_o so_o depart_v hence_o in_o his_o favour_n as_o it_o often_o through_o much_o mercy_n fall_v he_o must_v needs_o be_v in_o exceed_v great_a debt_n for_o so_o long_a a_o life_n so_o evil_a spend_v and_o i_o think_v if_o you_o call_v he_o to_o account_v for_o all_o his_o common_a and_o daily_a offence_n for_o all_o his_o day_n unthriftilie_o waste_v for_o every_o of_o his_o idle_a word_n for_o every_o of_o his_o vain_a thought_n for_o so_o many_o occasion_n of_o good_a work_n omit_v which_o he_o ought_v to_o have_v do_v for_o often_o fellowship_n in_o other_o man_n misdeed_n beside_o his_o own_o all_o this_o willriseto_o a_o great_a debt_n in_o a_o man_n case_n that_o never_o require_v in_o all_o his_o time_n effectual_o to_o have_v his_o debt_n forgive_v he_o and_o therefore_o he_o must_v needs_o stand_v much_o bind_v even_o for_o his_o venial_a trespass_n which_o though_o they_o deserve_v not_o of_o their_o nature_n damnation_n eternal_a yet_o be_v not_o remit_v they_o bind_v man_n to_o transitory_a punishment_n according_a to_o the_o number_n time_n and_o weight_n of_o they_o but_o now_o if_o you_o sit_v on_o the_o audit_n of_o the_o great_a matter_n of_o this_o man_n conscience_n where_o every_o of_o his_o sin_n deserve_v by_o the_o church_n limitation_n for_o correction_n only_o after_o they_o be_v remit_v necre_n hand_n seven_o year_n penance_n and_o some_o many_o more_o where_o he_o have_v do_v nothing_o else_o all_o his_o evil_n and_o long_a time_n but_o heap_v sin_n upon_o sin_n where_o infinite_a sacrilege_n bold_o have_v be_v commit_v where_o his_o flesh_n be_v never_o satisfy_v of_o most_o unlawful_a lust_n where_o his_o mind_n be_v ever_o full_a of_o greedy_a gain_n where_o his_o hand_n or_o heart_n be_v always_o imbrue_v with_o innocent_a blood_n be_v no_o part_n of_o his_o mind_n or_o body_n have_v be_v free_a from_o what_o iniquity_n you_o can_v name_v in_o all_o this_o corrupt_a case_n of_o many_o a_o man_n life_n where_o no_o good_a work_n that_o i_o may_v use_v saint_n chrysostom_n word_n be_v find_v by_o which_o there_o may_v be_v any_o hope_n of_o release_n where_o there_o be_v abundance_n of_o all_o sin_n without_o any_o satisfaction_n in_o this_o lamentable_a state_n of_o a_o life_n so_o evil_a spend_v how_o many_o year_n penance_n if_o it_o be_v possible_a for_o the_o party_n to_o live_v so_o long_o be_v he_o by_o the_o church_n judgement_n by_o the_o weight_n of_o his_o wickedness_n or_o by_o christ_n justice_n to_o be_v chardged_a with_o all_o sure_o if_o his_o life_n be_v not_o only_o a_o thousand_o year_n for_o so_o long_o almost_o aid_v some_o of_o the_o old_a fatherslive_a but_o if_o it_o be_v ten_o thousand_o year_n he_o can_v not_o fatisfiefor_o so_o much_o temporal_a pain_n and_o bebt_n of_o sin_n as_o reason_n law_n and_o god_n justice_n will_v and_o well_o may_v charge_v he_o withal_o though_o the_o great_a debt_n of_o everlasting_a damnation_n by_o christ_n grace_n be_v merciful_o remit_v in_o the_o priest_n absolution_n at_o his_o confession_n before_o threfore_o whether_o the_o party_n live_v or_o die_v he_o be_v in_o debt_n for_o such_o penance_n if_o rigour_n be_v show_v as_o so_o great_a sinner_n deserve_v and_o if_o he_o live_v ten_o thousand_o year_n he_o be_v bind_v in_o his_o life_n time_n and_o in_o his_o body_n to_o accomplish_v as_o he_o may_v the_o due_a penance_n for_o his_o desert_n and_o if_o he_o die_v straight_o upon_o his_o repentance_n he_o be_v not_o less_o bind_v by_o suffer_a pain_n and_o punishment_n in_o the_o next_o world_n to_o fulfil_v the_o same_o for_o god_n justice_n leese_v no_o right_a because_o man_n leese_v his_o life_n fulke_v as_o privy_a as_o you_o make_v yourself_o to_o the_o church_n meaning_n the_o popish_a church_n can_v have_v no_o good_a meaning_n in_o grant_v pardon_n for_o so_o many_o thousand_o year_n yea_o for_o so_o many_o hundred_o thousand_o year_n which_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n for_o a_o thousand_o year_n after_o christ_n ascension_n never_o hear_v of_o some_o part_n of_o the_o fault_n be_v lay_v upon_o printer_n and_o writer_n which_o for_o lucre_n have_v increase_v the_o number_n but_o in_o the_o end_n the_o great_a number_n be_v coufeise_v for_o otherwise_o the_o bull_n of_o lead_n as_o dumb_a as_o they_o be_v will_v cry_v out_o against_o you_o but_o whereas_o these_o year_n be_v express_v in_o pardon_n in_o title_n of_o prayer_n or_o use_v of_o certain_a creature_n the_o last_o of_o these_o be_v say_v to_o be_v sanctify_v and_o make_v holy_a by_o god_n word_n and_o prayer_n why_o sir_n all_o the_o creature_n of_o god_n be_v sanctify_v in_o the_o lawful_a use_n of_o they_o by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o by_o prayer_n as_o the_o apostle_n teach_v we_o to_o which_o no_o such_o pardon_n be_v annex_v who_o be_v he_o then_o that_o despise_v the_o holiness_n give_v by_o god_n to_o all_o his_o creature_n in_o the_o ordinary_a use_n of_o they_o take_v upon_o he_o to_o add_v agreat_a holiness_n to_o certain_a creature_n to_o apply_v they_o to_o another_o use_n and_o join_v not_o only_a holiness_n unto_o they_o but_o also_o remission_n of_o sin_n and_o of_o pain_n due_a for_o sin_n to_o the_o use_n of_o they_o for_o which_o he_o have_v no_o word_n of_o god_n to_o warrant_v he_o and_o therefore_o can_v have_v no_o prayer_n to_o help_v he_o sure_o this_o can_v be_v none_o other_o than_o he_o that_o exalt_v himself_o above_o god_n which_o can_v make_v god_n creature_n more_o holy_a than_o god_n have_v make_v they_o but_o now_o for_o this_o number_n of_o year_n whereof_o you_o make_v your_o audit_n at_o your_o pleasure_n value_v man_n offence_n in_o a_o heavy_a balance_n to_o make_v your_o pope_n pardon_n seem_v more_o probable_a &_o saleable_a your_o account_n nevertheless_o will_v fall_v short_a of_o many_o thousand_o year_n by_o your_o former_a reckon_n you_o confess_v in_o
enemy_n who_o by_o all_o likelihood_n be_v as_o much_o a_o lutheran_n as_o the_o other_o and_o perhaps_o neither_o of_o they_o both_o either_o of_o religion_n or_o of_o honesty_n these_o preacher_n of_o paris_n most_o worthy_a not_o of_o the_o locrensian_o rope_n but_o ofa_fw-mi much_o great_a torment_n as_o procure_v of_o so_o wilful_a murder_n shall_v m._n frarine_n call_v upon_o with_o the_o say_n of_o christ_n unto_o saint_n peter_n put_v up_o thy_o sword_n into_o thy_o sheath_n rather_o than_o the_o preacher_n of_o the_o gospel_n who_o neither_o draw_v any_o sword_n themselves_o nor_o ever_o be_v author_n or_o councillor_n to_o any_o man_n of_o murder_n and_o cruel_a bloodshedyea_n to_o the_o pope_n himself_o which_o vaunt_v that_o he_o be_v peter_n successor_n this_o text_n shall_v be_v most_o apt_o apply_v when_o he_o not_o only_o stir_v up_o prince_n to_o make_v war_n one_o against_o a_o other_o but_o he_o himself_o also_o make_v bloody_a battle_n not_o for_o defence_n of_o religion_n but_o to_o maintain_v his_o one_o worldly_a quarrel_n not_o to_o hold_v his_o own_o right_a but_o to_o invade_v other_o princess_n dominion_n put_v up_o thy_o sword_n into_o thy_o sheath_n say_v christ_n unto_o s._n peter_n the_o sword_n of_o paul_n say_v julie_n the_o second_o shall_v defend_v we_o when_o yonder_o key_n of_o peter_n will_v no_o long_o serve_v us._n but_o friar_n luther_n be_v call_v to_o witness_v that_o it_o be_v not_o the_o gospel_n which_o the_o protestant_n take_v in_o hand_n to_o maintain_v by_o these_o bloody_a war_n who_o say_v in_o the_o assembly_n at_o lipsia_n neither_o be_v this_o matter_n ever_o begin_v for_o god_n quarrel_n neither_o shall_v be_v end_v for_o god_n sake_n hereupon_o follow_v great_a outcry_n but_o who_o be_v witness_n that_o these_o be_v luther_n word_n which_o every_o papist_n do_v so_o spitfullie_o gnaw_v upon_o none_o but_o luther_n enemy_n ems_a and_o eccius_n and_o the_o legate_n yet_o be_v there_o present_a many_o other_o not_o only_o his_o friend_n but_o more_o indifferent_a person_n than_o his_o profess_a adversary_n yet_o none_o of_o they_o can_v bear_v witness_n of_o this_o speech_n but_o admit_v the_o word_n be_v speak_v in_o the_o only_a hear_n of_o his_o enemy_n do_v it_o follow_v that_o they_o must_v needs_o have_v no_o other_o sense_n but_o that_o which_o the_o papist_n do_v most_o malicious_o imagine_v of_o the_o may_v not_o luther_n mean_v of_o that_o cause_n &_o matter_n which_o his_o adversary_n have_v begone_v against_o he_o or_o be_v it_o proable_a to_o any_o reasonable_a man_n judgement_n that_o luther_n will_v deny_v that_o the_o contention_n which_o he_o then_o maintain_v against_o the_o popish_a heresy_n be_v ever_o begone_v for_o god_n quarrel_n or_o shall_v be_v end_v for_o his_o sake_n if_o they_o this_o malicious_a sense_n carry_v with_o it_o no_o likelihood_n of_o truth_n whereto_o serve_v that_o exclamation_n o_o noble_a sentence_n etc._n etc._n &_o the_o rest_n that_o follow_v eth_z what_o war_n do_v euther_n ever_o make_v or_o move_v that_o he_o shall_v be_v call_v forth_o by_o frarine_n to_o show_v his_o commission_n from_o god_n for_o soul_n do_n yea_o if_o at_o be_v true_a that_o luther_n both_o speak_v &_o mean_v as_o you_o falsty_n charge_v he_o &_o have_v be_v as_o great_a a_o hypocrite_n as_o he_o be_v a_o sincere_a preacher_n be_v those_o only_a word_n sufficient_a to_o carry_v away_o the_o whole_a cause_n of_o the_o gospel_n from_o the_o protestant_n to_o the_o papist_n and_o to_o prove_v that_o no_o other_o protestant_n have_v commission_n or_o authority_n from_o god_n if_o luther_n confess_v he_o have_v none_o see_v i_o pray_v you_o what_o weighty_a argument_n the_o papist_n lean_a unto_o while_o they_o accuse_v the_o protestant_n to_o have_v make_v war_n without_o just_a cause_n but_o p._n frarine_n dissemble_v no_o this_o adversary_n objection_n that_o faith_n be_v well_o nigh_o querch_v and_o out_o of_o the_o church_n which_o the_o protestant_n purpose_v to_o reform_v neither_o may_v we_o dissemble_v his_o answer_n christ_n pray_v say_v he_o for_o s._n peter_n that_o his_o faith_n shall_v never_o fail_v and_o will_v you_o say_v that_o he_o pray_v in_o vain_a no_o very_o for_o we_o believe_v that_o s._n peter_n faith_n neither_o in_o that_o most_o grievous_a temptation_n against_o which_o he_o be_v comfor_v by_o these_o word_n of_o our_o saviour_n christ_n neither_o in_o any_o other_o to_o his_o life_n end_n do_v ever_o fail_v but_o what_o do_v that_o appertain_v to_o the_o pope_n or_o popish_a church_n again_o he_o say_v have_v not_o the_o holy_a ghost_n teach_v the_o church_n all_o truth_n for_o which_o cause_n he_o come_v down_o from_o heaven_n we_o believe_v the_o holy_a ghost_n teach_v all_o truth_n to_o the_o apostle_n according_a to_o christ_n promise_n and_o upon_o the_o foundation_n of_o the_o prophet_n and_o apostle_n the_o church_n be_v build_v to_o continue_v forever_o if_o the_o popish_a synagogue_n host_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n without_o the_o foundation_n of_o the_o prophet_n and_o apostel_n who_o shall_v believe_v that_o she_o be_v the_o church_n of_o christ_n but_o if_o your_o purpose_n be_v say_v frarine_n to_o reform_v the_o christian_a faith_n when_o you_o can_v not_o persuade_v the_o people_n by_o reason_n do_v you_o think_v it_o the_o best_a way_n with_o gonneshot_v and_o beetle_n to_o drive_v the_o faith_n into_o their_o head_n you_o be_v great_o deceive_v the_o mind_n may_v be_v induce_v by_o reason_n it_o can_v not_o be_v compel_v by_o stripe_n no_o sir_n they_o never_o have_v purpose_n to_o persuade_v faith_n by_o blow_n and_o battle_n neither_o do_v they_o ever_o put_v on_o armour_n for_o such_o purpose_n but_o constrain_v by_o injury_n and_o allow_v by_o authority_n to_o defend_v themselves_o neither_o do_v they_o ever_o think_v that_o the_o vicious_a manner_n of_o man_n be_v to_o be_v reform_v by_o any_o other_o mean_n then_o by_o preach_v of_o god_n word_n christian_a discipline_n and_o godly_a law_n and_o therefore_o to_o term_v they_o but_o fling-braine_n and_o light_a lack_n straw_n and_o all_o their_o do_n nothing_o but_o a_o bloody_a butchery_n a_o heinous_a wickedness_n a_o devilish_a deal_n a_o impiety_n never_o to_o be_v pardon_v as_o frarine_n do_v it_o be_v the_o sentence_n of_o a_o light_n and_o lavish_a orator_n &_o not_o of_o a_o grave_n and_o lawful_a judge_n what_o will_v this_o man_n have_v term_v the_o massacre_n of_o paris_n and_o the_o executioner_n there_o of_o where_o not_o in_o paint_a word_n but_o in_o most_o cruel_a and_o lamentable_a deed_n more_o than_o ten_o thousand_o person_n of_o all_o degree_n age_n and_o sex_n be_v murder_v in_o one_o day_n without_o any_o examination_n process_n or_o sentence_n but_o be_v call_v together_o under_o the_o pretence_n of_o 〈◊〉_d league_n and_o marriage_n but_o to_o proceed_v in_o our_o matter_n you_o that_o accuse_v the_o papist_n say_v frarine_n for_o their_o evil_a life_n be_v the_o work_n man_n and_o naughty_a liver_n that_o ever_o tread_v on_o earth_n and_o that_o do_v luther_n himself_o who_o he_o call_v the_o three_o elias_n plain_o confess_v that_o the_o manner_n of_o man_n be_v far_o more_o vicious_a under_o his_o gospel_n than_o ever_o they_o be_v before_o under_o the_o popedom_n but_o i_o pray_v you_o master_n frarine_n say_v luther_n so_o much_o of_o all_o that_o profess_v the_o gospel_n which_o he_o preach_v or_o of_o some_o hypocrite_n who_o wickedness_n be_v great_a ter_z after_o knowledge_n receive_v they_o it_o be_v in_o ignorance_n the_o truth_n be_v luther_n neither_o flatter_v the_o ungodlie_a which_o out_o wardlie_o profess_v the_o gospel_n nor_o yet_o accuse_v all_o true_a professor_n for_o the_o wickedness_n of_o some_o hypocrite_n what_o then_o do_v luther_n testimony_n make_v for_o frarines_n slander_n that_o they_o which_o accuse_v the_o papist_n be_v the_o worst_a man_n in_o the_o world_n but_o if_o anyof_o the_o disciple_n say_v he_o dare_v deny_v this_o matter_n the_o adulterous_a bed_n the_o smoke_n of_o burn_a house_n the_o earth_n yet_o moist_a with_o blood_n theirpurse_n swell_v with_o spoil_n bear_v witness_n against_o they_o these_o general_a acusation_n deserve_v no_o answer_n except_o they_o be_v exemplify_v by_o particular_n and_o therefore_o he_o call_v forth_o martin_n luther_n be_v ready_a to_o charge_v he_o if_o he_o dare_v show_v his_o face_n with_o rebellion_n sedition_n sacrilege_n impiety_n heresy_n and_o all_o manner_n of_o wicked_a vice_n and_o heinous_a offence_n that_o can_v reign_v in_o a_o man_n by_o the_o testimony_n of_o charles_n the_o emperor_n henry_n the_o eight_o king_n of_o england_n and_o sigismonde_n king_n of_o pole_n in_o their_o several_a edict_n and_o public_a writing_n and_o as_o though_o he_o have_v he_o bind_v with_o invincible_a chain_n of_o this_o
speak_v so_o the_o charge_n both_o of_o preach_v and_o babtize_v be_v give_v to_o a_o few_o choose_a man_n then_o present_a but_o that_o all_o the_o world_n may_v preceive_v that_o of_o his_o wisdom_n &_o careful_a providence_n the_o charge_n &_o authority_n pertain_v to_o the_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n for_o ever_o no_o less_o then_o to_o they_o who_o he_o then_o call_v to_o that_o function_n he_o add_v i_o will_v be_v with_o you_o to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n meaning_n that_o they_o shall_v exercise_v that_o office_n in_o his_o name_n &_o assistance_n ult._n to_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n which_o in_o their_o own_o person_n be_v not_o true_a but_o in_o their_o successor_n for_o this_o cause_n it_o be_v no_o doubt_n but_o what_o authority_n soever_o peter_n have_v alone_o above_o the_o residewe_n of_o he_o fellow_n that_o the_o same_o be_v by_o all_o reason_n to_o be_v dirive_v from_o he_o to_o all_o his_o successor_n and_o that_o cause_v chrysostome_n to_o say_v that_o christ_n shed_v his_o 〈◊〉_d to_o win_v the_o sheep_n which_o he_o commit_v to_o peter_n and_o his_o successor_n to_o feed_v where_o christ_n in_o person_n present_o speak_v but_o to_o peter_n alone_o and_o yet_o because_o he_o know_v the_o like_a government_n be_v both_o necessary_a after_o peter_n death_n as_o well_o as_o in_o his_o time_n and_o no_o less_o by_o christ_n appointement_n to_o be_v continue_v in_o the_o church_n after_o as_o before_o the_o doctor_n doubt_v not_o to_o enlarge_v christ_n word_n utter_v to_o peter_n alone_o to_o all_o they_o that_o this_o ccee_v in_o the_o same_o room_n upon_o these_o most_o strong_a ground_n every_o man_n plain_o may_v argue_v the_o like_a power_n yet_o to_o be_v in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n in_o every_o case_n even_o as_o christ_n do_v institute_v at_o the_o beginning_n when_o he_o give_v the_o charge_n to_o the_o apostle_n first_o for_o look_v what_o form_n of_o government_n and_o order_n of_o the_o church_n be_v think_v unto_o his_o wisdom_n to_o be_v best_a then_o the_o same_o must_v needs_o be_v best_a now_o i_o speak_v for_o the_o substance_n of_o thing_n for_o by_o diversity_n of_o time_n and_o person_n some_o alteration_n may_v rise_v in_o the_o circumstance_n therefore_o if_o it_o be_v good_a at_o that_o time_n that_o one_o shall_v be_v the_o general_a vicar_n of_o christ_n and_o pastor_n of_o all_o the_o sheep_n for_o which_o he_o shed_v his_o bless_a blood_n it_o be_v good_a yet_o also_o if_o some_o have_v authority_n then_o to_o consecrate_v christ_n body_n some_o have_v the_o same_o power_n till_o this_o time_n if_o some_o than_o must_v needs_o baptize_v &_o preach_v other_o some_o must_v now_o also_o do_v the_o same_o final_o if_o certain_a then_o have_v commission_n by_o christ_n &_o the_o holy_a ghost_n give_v they_o to_o remit_v sin_n &_o therewith_o power_n by_o his_o word_n both_o to_o pardon_v &_o punish_v to_o bind_v &_o to_o loose_v it_o must_v by_o force_n of_o the_o foresay_a argument_n necessary_o be_v induce_v that_o some_o at_o this_o date_n must_v have_v the_o like_a office_n for_o else_o christ_n can_v not_o continue_v the_o same_o power_n &_o office_n in_o the_o church_n which_o he_o for_o the_o church_n sake_n do_v first_o institute_n &_o which_o he_o count_v of_o his_o heavenly_a wisdom_n most_o necessary_a for_o the_o chucrhe_n government_n but_o i_o think_v no_o man_n have_v yet_o so_o shake_v of_o shame_n and_o fear_n of_o god_n that_o he_o dare_v hold_v that_o christ_n be_v not_o able_a to_o maintain_v all_o power_n rule_n and_o iurisaiction_n with_o all_o kind_n of_o function_n which_o he_o institute_v for_o the_o benefit_n of_o the_o people_n till_o the_o world_n end_n both_o himself_o and_o the_o holy_a ghost_n promise_v to_o be_v present_a for_o that_o purpose_n till_o the_o general_a judgement_n and_o that_o those_o function_n be_v necessary_a for_o his_o everlasting_a common_a wealth_n his_o solemn_a institution_n and_o careful_a provision_n of_o they_o do_v declare_v that_o he_o mean_v no_o less_o to_o establish_v the_o same_o which_o he_o then_o institute_v not_o only_o the_o foresay_a reason_n but_o that_o say_n of_o saint_n paul_n do_v prove_v he_o give_v unto_o the_o church_n some_o to_o be_v apostle_n some_o to_o be_v prophet_n some_o to_o be_v evangelist_n some_o to_o be_v pastor_n and_o 4._o doctor_n and_o all_o this_o to_o the_o work_n and_o maintenance_n of_o the_o ministry_n for_o the_o persit_n of_o the_o saint_n and_o uphold_v of_o christ_n body_n till_o the_o time_n of_o the_o acknowledgeing_n of_o god_n son_n thus_o do_v christ_n provide_v for_o his_o dear_a church_n in_o all_o manner_n of_o service_n and_o office_n even_o till_o the_o last_o day_n whereby_o it_o be_v most_o clear_a that_o the_o power_n of_o remission_n of_o sin_n be_v once_o give_v to_o the_o church_n can_v never_o cease_v while_o man_n of_o his_o continual_a frailty_n cease_v not_o to_o sin_n that_o which_o be_v then_o count_v a_o necessary_a refuge_n and_o remedy_n for_o sin_n commit_v can_v not_o now_o perish_v in_o the_o world_n where_o sin_n be_v a_o great_a deal_n more_o rife_a and_o the_o remedy_n more_o needful_a fulke_v there_o be_v a_o certain_a power_n commit_v to_o the_o apostle_n to_o have_v a_o general_a charge_n to_o preach_v over_o all_o the_o world_n which_o cease_v by_o their_o death_n as_o that_o which_o be_v proper_a to_o the_o office_n of_o the_o apostleship_n but_o such_o power_n as_o they_o have_v for_o the_o build_n up_o of_o particular_a church_n by_o preach_v administer_a the_o sacrament_n and_o exercise_v of_o discipline_n be_v perpetual_a and_o die_v not_o with_o the_o apostle_n and_o this_o authority_n be_v derive_v unto_o they_o immediate_o from_o christ_n and_o not_o from_o peter_n and_o therefore_o you_o abuse_v the_o name_n of_o chrysostom_n to_o make_v he_o witness_v of_o your_o derivation_n for_o he_o acknowledge_v christ_n himself_o in_o the_o word_n by_o you_o allege_v to_o have_v 〈◊〉_d feed_v of_o his_o sheep_n to_o peter_n successor_n that_o be_v to_o all_o preiste_n which_o be_v successor_n of_o the_o aposty_n as_o saint_n hierome_n say_v no_o les_fw-fr then_o unto_o peter_n himself_o for_o they_o be_v not_o peter_n commissary_n but_o christ_n ambassador_n minister_n and_o dispenser_n that_o one_o shall_v be_v general_a vicar_n of_o christ_n &_o pastor_n of_o all_o the_o sheep_n for_o which_o he_o shed_v his_o blood_n it_o be_v neither_o good_a not_o possible_a and_o therefore_o he_o institute_v many_o and_o no_o one_o with_o such_o singular_a authority_n as_o be_v pretend_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v of_o perfect_a holiness_n and_o therefore_o need_v no_o consecration_n of_o man_n but_o there_o remain_v authority_n with_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n to_o consecrate_v bread_n and_o wine_n to_o be_v the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o chest_n that_o be_v the_o sacrament_n sign_n or_o figure_n thereof_o likewise_o to_o preach_v and_o baptize_v to_o excommunicate_v and_o to_o receive_v again_o and_o that_o for_o which_o you_o bring_v in_o the_o rest_n to_o remit_v and_o retain_v sin_n according_a to_o the_o pleasure_n of_o god_n reveal_v in_o his_o holy_a gospel_n whereof_o the_o true_a dispensour_n be_v appoint_v to_o be_v true_a and_o faithful_a interpreter_n and_o declarer_n allen_n but_o to_o convince_v they_o plain_o that_o think_v contrary_a let_v they_o tell_v i_o whether_o thomas_n be_v not_o then_o present_a as_o the_o evangelist_n say_v and_o therefore_o the_o word_n not_o utter_v to_o he_o in_o person_n let_v they_o show_v i_o whether_o he_o have_v not_o afterward_o by_o force_n of_o that_o institution_n power_n also_o to_o remit_v sin_n if_o he_o have_v as_o by_o reason_n i_o be_o sure_a they_o can_v deny_v as_o full_a pre-eminence_n and_o power_n to_o do_v all_o thing_n that_o then_o christ_n charge_v his_o ten_o disciple_n which_o be_v present_a to_o do_v in_o his_o name_n than_o the_o power_n of_o remission_n of_o sin_n be_v not_o so_o streightlie_o limit_v as_o the_o word_n may_v seem_v to_o be_v utter_v by_o which_o no_o doubt_n a_o sacramen_n be_v institute_v to_o take_v force_n in_o the_o church_n both_o then_o &_o afterward_o to_o the_o world_n end_n not_o that_o any_o man_n may_v of_o his_o own_o head_n upon_o force_n only_o of_o christ_n commission_n give_v at_o that_o time_n to_o his_o apostle_n take_v that_o high_a function_n upon_o he_o but_o that_o he_o which_o ordinary_o shall_v be_v call_v by_o receive_v of_o grace_n and_o the_o holy_a ghost_n in_o external_a sacrament_n by_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n of_o priesthood_n may_v likewise_o upon_o his_o own_o flock_n and_o cure_n exercise_v that_o office_n no_o less_o than_o those_o holy_a man_n may_v after_o christ_n call_n thereunto_o occupy_v the_o
same_o work_n of_o bind_v and_o lose_v of_o such_o sheep_n of_o christ_n fold_n as_o to_o they_o be_v commit_v and_o so_o do_v saint_n thomas_n who_o then_o be_v not_o there_o so_o do_v saint_n matthew_n who_o then_o be_v no_o apostle_n so_o do_v barnabas_n so_o do_v timothy_n and_o titus_n who_o be_v ordain_v by_o saint_n paul_n and_o so_o do_v paul_n himself_o of_o who_o saint_n ambrose_n say_v 16._o that_o he_o do_v remit_v sin_n without_o all_o derogation_n the_o good_a studiousereader_n must_v mark_v well_o then_o that_o all_o these_o holy_a function_n or_o pass_a preeminency_n be_v not_o give_v to_o the_o private_a person_n in_o respect_n of_o themselves_o neither_o of_o peter_n nor_o of_o paul_n nor_o any_o other_o but_o they_o be_v bestow_v upon_o they_o for_o the_o use_n of_o the_o church_n which_o die_v in_o their_o person_n and_o therefore_o must_v be_v honour_v with_o the_o same_o office_n by_o other_o after_o they_o be_v dead_a by_o perpetual_a succession_n they_o shall_v never_o cease_v and_o that_o cause_v saint_n augustine_n and_o other_o holy_a father_n to_o say_v the_o key_n be_v give_v to_o the_o church_n and_o authority_n to_o remit_v sin_n 18._o to_o baptize_v and_o to_o enjoin_v penance_n not_o because_o the_o whole_a church_n by_o gather_v all_o her_o child_n together_o must_v give_v sentence_n upon_o every_o sinner_n or_o else_o the_o priest_n judgement_n to_o be_v nothing_o as_o some_o foolish_a seditious_a head_n have_v now_o to_o the_o distrurbance_n of_o the_o world_n devise_v but_o because_o it_o be_v our_o common_a wealth_n and_o house_n of_o faith_n which_o be_v so_o beautify_v in_o her_o minister_n with_o all_o kind_n of_o sacrament_n and_o good_a order_n for_o the_o government_n of_o her_o child_n and_o because_o all_o man_n may_v see_v it_o be_v the_o earnest_a love_n and_o careful_a providence_n for_o this_o his_o spouse_n and_o not_o the_o person_n of_o the_o apostle_n in_o respect_n of_o themselves_o which_o move_v his_o wisdom_n to_o the_o institution_n of_o such_o perpetual_a office_n in_o the_o church_n fulke_v your_o conclusion_n be_v true_a that_o the_o power_n extend_v to_o all_o the_o apostle_n successor_n but_o it_o be_v not_o strong_o prove_v by_o the_o example_n of_o thomas_n matthew_n paul_n and_o bernabas_n who_o be_v apostle_n themselves_o in_o the_o high_a degree_n and_o therefore_o i_o like_v better_o the_o solution_n of_o cyrillus_n which_o understand_v the_o intention_n of_o christ_n to_o have_v be_v of_o the_o whole_a order_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o their_o successor_n although_o more_o than_o thomas_n have_v be_v absent_a at_o such_o time_n as_o he_o give_v that_o power_n allege_v the_o example_n of_o eldad_n and_o meldad_o which_o be_v of_o the_o number_n that_o be_v choose_v to_o be_v governor_n to_o assist_v moses_n although_o they_o be_v not_o present_a with_o the_o rest_n before_o the_o tabernacle_n yet_o they_o be_v endue_v with_o the_o spirit_n of_o pprophecy_n because_o they_o be_v of_o the_o number_n appoint_v where_o you_o say_v that_o no_o doubt_n a_o sacrament_n be_v institute_v by_o these_o word_n of_o christ_n and_o often_o have_v so_o say_v you_o only_o say_v it_o and_o bring_v no_o proof_n thereof_o neither_o do_v you_o declare_v what_o be_v the_o visible_a sign_n of_o the_o invisible_a grace_n nor_o what_o 〈◊〉_d the_o element_n to_o which_o the_o word_n come_v that_o we_o may_v acknowledge_v a_o sacrament_n with_o you_o that_o the_o key_n be_v give_v to_o the_o church_n although_o it_o prove_v 〈◊〉_d that_o every_o member_n of_o the_o church_n shall_v execute_v they_o yet_o it_o proove_v that_o peter_n have_v no_o sovereign_a nor_o singular_a authority_n of_o the_o key_n above_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n but_o that_o the_o pastor_n of_o every_o church_n have_v the_o same_o not_o of_o the_o gift_n grant_v commission_n or_o permission_n of_o peter_n but_o of_o the_o grant_n and_o immediate_a commission_n from_o jesus_n christ_n himself_o whether_o the_o power_n of_o excommunication_n perteine_a to_o all_o the_o church_n or_o to_o certain_a choose_a governor_n thereof_o it_o be_v a_o question_n not_o incident_a to_o this_o to_o be_v handle_v allen_n hereupon_o therefore_o and_o in_o consideration_n that_o the_o key_n of_o open_v and_o shut_v heaven_n by_o bind_v and_o lose_v man_n sin_n shall_v ever_o remain_v for_o the_o use_n and_o honour_n of_o the_o church_n the_o say_v holy_a saint_n augustine_n have_v these_o word_n clave_n dedit_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la suae_fw-la ut_fw-la quae_fw-la solucrit_fw-fr in_fw-la terra_fw-la soluta_fw-la essent_fw-la &_o in_fw-la coelo_fw-la quae_fw-la ligaverit_fw-la in_o terra_fw-la ligata_fw-la essent_fw-la &_o in_o 〈◊〉_d christ._n christ_n deliur_v the_o key_n to_o the_o church_n that_o whoesoever_o she_o loose_v in_o earth_n shall_v be_v loose_v in_o heaven_n and_o whatsoever_o she_o bind_v in_o earth_n shall_v be_v bind_v likewise_o in_o heaven_n and_o optatus_n his_o equal_a strive_v with_o the_o donatist_n for_o all_o holy_a gift_n which_o christ_n bestow_v upon_o his_o church_n challenge_v donatist_n all_o other_o sacrament_n and_o namely_o the_o key_n for_o the_o catholic_a and_o universal_a church_n from_o the_o part_n of_o donatus_n the_o heretic_n as_o in_o the_o right_n of_o peter_n he_o say_v exceed_v pithy_o clave_n darae_fw-la sunt_fw-la petro_n &_o non_fw-la haereticis_fw-la and_o afterwade_v cathedram_fw-la petri_n quae_fw-la nostra_fw-la est_fw-la per_fw-la ipsam_fw-la &_o caeteras_fw-la dote_v apud_fw-la nos_fw-la esse_fw-la probamus_fw-la etiam_fw-la sacerdotium_fw-la the_o key_n be_v give_v to_o peter_n and_o not_o to_o heretic_n by_o the_o chaier_n of_o peter_n which_o be_v we_o we_o prove_v all_o other_o gift_n of_o the_o church_n to_o be_v we_o yea_o even_o priesthood_n thus_o he_o have_v in_o sense_n in_o diverse_a place_n by_o which_o we_o see_v the_o inrisdiction_n and_o power_n give_v to_o the_o principal_a apostle_n yet_o to_o remain_v and_o by_o it_o all_o other_o the_o church_n notable_a preeminence_n which_o he_o call_v ecclesiae_fw-la dote_v the_o doury_n of_o the_o church_n through_o his_o whole_a discourse_n against_o the_o donatist_n so_o do_v epiphanius_n attribute_v the_o power_n of_o penance_n and_o pardon_n to_o the_o church_n likewise_o not_o only_o in_o baptism_n which_o he_o call_v the_o most_o perfect_a penance_n but_o also_o afterward_o upon_o the_o party_n relapse_n in_o which_o case_n the_o heretic_n call_v cathari_n affirm_v that_o the_o church_n have_v no_o authority_n to_o pardon_v they_o any_o more_o against_o which_o pernicious_a cathari_n sect_n he_o say_v if_o any_o man_n fall_v after_o his_o baptism_n the_o church_n will_v not_o be_v unmerciful_a to_o he_o that_o enim_fw-la reversionem_fw-la &_o 59_o post_fw-la poenitentiam_fw-la for_o she_o give_v he_o leave_v to_o return_v and_o have_v penance_n after_o penance_n by_o which_o he_o note_v that_o the_o church_n have_v two_o sacrament_n for_o remission_n of_o sin_n the_o one_o be_v baptism_n which_o he_o term_v perfect_a penance_n with_o saint_n paul_n to_o the_o hebrew_n and_o saint_n augustine_n do_v call_v it_o in_o his_o en._n chiridion_fw-la magnam_fw-la indulgentiam_fw-la a_o grand_a pardon_n and_o 6._o afterward_o the_o church_n have_v a_o other_o kind_n of_o remission_n which_o epiphanius_n call_v poenitentiam_fw-la post_fw-la poenitentiam_fw-la but_o of_o these_o two_o more_o shall_v be_v say_v anon_o after_o this_o 〈◊〉_d do_v lactantius_n 〈◊〉_d to_o the_o true_a church_n confession_n penance_n and_o profitable_a heal_n of_o our_o wound_n and_o such_o sore_n as_o be_v find_v in_o our_o soul_n by_o all_o which_o every_o man_n 30._o may_v conceive_v easy_o that_o this_o honour_n and_o commission_n of_o priesthood_n for_o the_o remission_n of_o our_o sin_n do_v not_o decay_n with_o the_o aposty_n appoint_v by_o christ_n nor_o shall_v cease_v till_o christ_n come_v to_o 〈◊〉_d the_o world_n fulke_v these_o testimony_n need_v not_o to_o be_v heap_v up_o in_o vain_a but_o that_o you_o will_v bear_v the_o ignorant_a in_o hand_n most_o iniurioslie_o that_o caluin_n and_o the_o better_o learn_v of_o the_o protestant_n do_v hold_v that_o the_o power_n of_o bind_v and_o lose_v at_v with_o the_o apostle_n and_o continue_v not_o in_o the_o church_n saint_n augustine_n word_n be_v as_o you_o cite_v they_o but_o there_o follow_v immediate_o a_o explication_n which_o you_o have_v omit_v scilicet_fw-la ut_fw-la quis_fw-la quis_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la eius_fw-la dmitti_fw-la sibi_fw-la peccata_fw-la non_fw-la crederet_fw-la non_fw-la eidimitterentur_fw-la quisquis_fw-la autem_fw-la crederet_fw-la seque_fw-la ab_fw-la his_fw-la correctus_fw-la averteret_fw-la in_fw-la eiusdem_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la gremio_fw-la constitutus_fw-la eadem_fw-la fide_fw-la atque_fw-la correctione_n sanareiur_fw-fr quisquis_fw-la enim_fw-la non_fw-la cred_a it_o dimitti_fw-la sibi_fw-la posse_fw-la peccata_fw-la fit_a deterior_fw-la disperando_fw-la quasi_fw-la nihil_fw-la illi_fw-la melius_fw-la quà m_fw-la malum_fw-la esse_fw-la remanear_fw-la