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A12484 Of the author and substance of the protestant church and religion two bookes. Written first in Latin by R.S. Doctour of Diuinity, and now reuiewed by the author, and translated into English by VV. Bas.; De auctore et essentia Protestanticae Ecclesiae et religionis libri duo. English Smith, Richard, 1566-1655.; Bas., W. 1621 (1621) STC 22812; ESTC S117611 239,031 514

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be_v such_o as_o do_v not_o quite_o take_v away_o the_o foundation_n and_o ministry_n reineccius_n tom_n 4_o armatur_fw-la cap._n 6._o pag._n 35_o we_o affirm_v there_o be_v heretic_n even_o in_o the_o true_a church_n hutte●us_o in_o analysi_fw-la confess_v august_n pag._n 435_o neither_o be_v heresy_n without_o the_o territory_n and_o limit_n of_o the_o true_a church_n plessy_n in_o his_o book_n of_o the_o church_n cap._n 2._o affirm_v plain_o that_o all_o heretical_a and_o schismatical_a congregation_n be_v true_o the_o church_n and_o ibid._n pag._n 25._o he_o say_v although_o particular_a church_n be_v insect_v with_o heresy_n from_o top_n to_o toe_n nevertheless_o they_o be_v part_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n as_o long_o as_o they_o profess_v the_o name_n of_o christ_n moulins_n in_o his_o bukler_n of_o faith_n part_n 1._o sect_n 89_o a_o heretical_a church_n may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v a_o true_a church_n even_o as_o man_n blemish_v with_o a_o canker_n or_o infect_v with_o the_o plague_n be_v notwithstanding_o a_o true_a
12._o what_o as_o tertullian_n say_v mean_v they_o otherwise_o then_o they_o write_v master_n of_o deceit_n not_o of_o truth_n 10._o if_o any_o demand_n how_o it_o come_v to_o pass_v that_o protestant_n shall_v so_o often_o and_o so_o plain_o say_v that_o their_o church_n and_o religion_n be_v perish_v before_o luther_n appear_v perish_v wherefore_o protestant_n say_v their_o church_n be_v perish_v i_o answer_v that_o there_o be_v many_o cause_n thereof_o first_o because_o it_o be_v so_o evident_a that_o their_o church_n and_o religion_n be_v not_o at_o all_o when_o luther_n begin_v that_o as_o themselves_o have_v confess_v they_o can_v deny_v it_o it_o can_v be_v deny_v if_o any_o deny_v it_o he_o may_v be_v convince_v all_o man_n must_v confess_v it_o the_o matter_n itself_o proclaim_v and_o prove_v it_o 1.4.5.7_o num._n 1.4.5.7_o and_o final_o that_o it_o be_v manifest_a both_o to_o learned_a and_o unlearned_a second_o they_o say_v so_o for_o to_o move_v man_n to_o hate_v the_o 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a_o true_a church_n and_o understand_v their_o foresay_a mayor_n universal_o it_o be_v false_a for_o not_o every_o true_a church_n in_o that_o sense_n be_v apostolical_a or_o have_v ever_o be_v for_o a_o schismatical_a church_n be_v true_a in_o doctrine_n and_o yet_o be_v neither_o apostolical_a nor_o have_v ever_o be_v and_o if_o they_o understand_v their_o mayor_n particular_o the_o conclusion_n follow_v not_o because_o it_o be_v deduce_v out_o of_o pure_a particular_a proposition_n and_o thus_o much_o of_o the_o mayor_n 7._o second_o the_o foresay_a argument_n be_v a_o sophism_n because_o of_o the_o minor_a by_o which_o one_o unknown_a thing_n be_v prove_v by_o another_o one_o false_a thing_n by_o another_o not_o only_o false_a unknown_a protestant_n proof_n out_o of_o a_o thing_n more_o unknown_a but_o also_o impossible_a for_o it_o be_v more_o uncercertaine_a that_o the_o protestant_a church_n hold_v the_o doctrine_n of_o christ_n then_o that_o she_o be_v before_o luther_n for_o 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debate_n 196._o caluin_n 4._o insticut_n c._n 1._o §_o 12._o narrat_fw-la de_fw-fr eccles_n belg._n p._n 196._o and_o the_o mayor_n they_o can_v prove_v no_o otherwise_o then_o by_o trifle_v by_o repeat_v it_o and_o say_v that_o it_o be_v out_o of_o all_o doubt_n i_o add_v also_o that_o the_o sacramentarye_n say_v that_o the_o lutheran_n church_n err_v even_o in_o the_o fundamental_a point_n and_o the_o like_v say_v the_o lutheran_n of_o the_o sacramentary_n and_o scarce_o there_o be_v any_o protestant_n who_o do_v not_o think_v that_o the_o church_n whereof_o he_o be_v do_v err_v in_o some_o point_n what_o reason_n then_o have_v they_o out_o of_o the_o trueness_n of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o their_o church_n to_o infer_v their_o perpetual_a existence_n 8._o three_o i_o add_v that_o the_o manner_n wherewith_o protestant_n do_v prove_v the_o minor_a of_o their_o foresay_a syllogism_n be_v sophistical_a and_o not_o such_o as_o they_o exact_v of_o we_o for_o proof_n of_o our_o doctrine_n 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cap._n 3._o protestant_n do_v now_o confess_v that_o the_o scripture_n be_v not_o of_o itself_o sufficient_a to_o end_v all_o question_n of_o faith_n and_o that_o schismatic_n can_v be_v convince_v by_o scripture_n how_o then_o can_v they_o sufficient_o prove_v all_o the_o point_n of_o their_o doctrine_n by_o scripture_n 9_o whitak_n loc_fw-la cit_fw-la p._n 490._o plessy_a l._n de_fw-fr eccles_n c._n 9_o again_o themselves_o acknowledge_v that_o they_o need_v certain_a mean_n to_o attain_v to_o the_o right_a sense_n of_o the_o scripture_n and_o that_o their_o mean_n be_v humane_a and_o not_o infallible_a as_o knowledge_n of_o tongue_n conference_n of_o place_n and_o such_o like_a and_o with_o all_o that_o such_o as_o the_o mean_n be_v such_o be_v the_o exposition_n of_o scripture_n if_o therefore_o their_o mean_n be_v not_o infallible_a how_o can_v their_o understanding_n of_o the_o scripture_n be_v infallible_a moreover_o they_o scarce_o ever_o prove_v any_o thing_n by_o both_o 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