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distinguish_v between_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n and_o their_o appearance_n determine_v the_o former_a to_o be_v change_v upon_o consecration_n and_o the_o latter_a to_o remain_v unaltered_a but_o there_o be_v nothing_o like_o it_o in_o the_o whole_a book_n last_o in_o etc._n in_o de_fw-fr praedest_fw-la lib._n 1._o p._n 42._o &_o ibidem_fw-la vniversa_fw-la quae_fw-la sive_fw-la secundum_fw-la corpus_fw-la sive_fw-la secundum_fw-la animam_fw-la aguntur_fw-la etc._n etc._n another_o work_n our_o author_n say_v that_o god_n appoint_v all_o thing_n quae_fw-la secundum_fw-la corpus_fw-la homines_fw-la patiuntur_fw-la which_o affect_v man_n in_o their_o body_n now_o i_o suppose_v none_o will_v be_v so_o ridiculous_a as_o to_o interpret_v the_o word_n of_o the_o appearance_n of_o their_o body_n which_o plain_o import_v the_o natural_a substance_n and_o even_o in_o this_o place_n he_o have_v just_a before_o say_v that_o as_o to_o the_o permutatum_fw-la the_o n._n 14._o 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any_o thing_n corporal_o in_o that_o meat_n and_o drink_n viz._n the_o consecrate_a element_n he_o give_v this_o reason_n because_o the_o soul_n can_v feed_v on_o corporal_a meat_n and_o drink_n now_o i_o will_v fain_o be_v inform_v whether_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v not_o as_o unsuitable_a food_n for_o the_o soul_n as_o the_o sensible_a appearance_n thereof_o as_o also_o whether_o the_o soul_n can_v feed_v on_o the_o natural_a flesh_n of_o christ_n any_o more_o than_o on_o bread_n and_o wine_n the_o word_n be_v easy_a to_o be_v understand_v by_o any_o man_n who_o have_v no_o interest_n to_o make_v the_o plain_a thing_n obscure_a and_o their_o meaning_n be_v that_o the_o soul_n which_o be_v a_o spirit_n can_v receive_v nourishment_n from_o any_o material_a food_n which_o be_v itself_o a_o corporeal_a substance_n and_o the_o proper_a sustenance_n of_o the_o body_n last_o he_o say_v elsewhere_o ostensum_fw-la elsewhere_o n._n 75._o si_fw-mi vinum_fw-la illud_fw-la sanctificatum_fw-la in_o christi_fw-la sanguinem_fw-la corporaliter_fw-la convertitur_fw-la aqua_fw-la quoque_fw-la quae_fw-la pariter_fw-la admixta_fw-la est_fw-la in_fw-la sanguinem_fw-la populi_n credentis_fw-la necesse_fw-la est_fw-la corporaliter_fw-la convertatur_fw-la at_o videmus_fw-la in_fw-la aqua_fw-la secundum_fw-la corpus_fw-la nihil_fw-la esse_fw-la conversum_fw-la consequenter_fw-la ergo_fw-la et_fw-la in_o vino_fw-la nihil_fw-la corporaliter_fw-la ostensum_fw-la if_o the_o wine_n be_v corporal_o change_v into_o christ_n blood_n then_o must_v the_o water_n mix_v with_o it_o in_o the_o chalice_n be_v corporal_o turn_v into_o the_o blood_n of_o the_o faithful_a now_o we_o see_v that_o the_o water_n have_v nothing_o in_o it_o corporal_o change_v therefore_o neither_o have_v the_o wine_n etc._n etc._n will_n m._n boileau_n say_v that_o ratram_n believe_v the_o water_n to_o be_v real_o and_o substantial_o though_o not_o sensible_o and_o in_o outward_a appearance_n turn_v into_o the_o blood_n of_o the_o people_n if_o corporal_o do_v not_o signify_v sensible_o but_o in_o bodily_a substance_n when_o he_o deni_v the_o water_n to_o be_v corporal_o change_v than_o neither_o do_v it_o signify_v sensible_o but_o substantial_o when_o he_o deni_v the_o wine_n to_o be_v so_o change_v into_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n but_o m._n boileau_n 248._o boileau_n remarq_n p._n 246._o 247._o 248._o tell_v we_o that_o substantia_fw-la likewise_o be_v improper_o take_v in_o this_o book_n for_o the_o appearance_n and_o to_o make_v this_o out_o though_o he_o say_v the_o calvinist_n confess_v it_o to_o be_v sometime_o use_v improper_o he_o have_v muster_v a_o great_a many_o example_n out_o of_o the_o father_n whence_o we_o may_v conclude_v reasonable_o that_o he_o will_v not_o have_v fail_v to_o back_v his_o new_a exposition_n of_o other_o term_n with_o the_o like_a colourable_a authority_n if_o he_o can_v any_o where_n have_v meet_v with_o they_o but_o all_o this_o show_n of_o authority_n be_v mere_a empty_a appearance_n for_o in_o those_o few_o of_o his_o citation_n where_o substantiae_fw-la be_v use_v for_o the_o quality_n of_o any_o substance_n it_o impli_v they_o subsist_v in_o their_o subject_n and_o not_o of_o themselves_o their_o subject_a be_v destroy_v beside_o what_o though_o the_o word_n be_v sometime_o improper_o use_v must_v it_o therefore_o never_o be_v take_v in_o in_o its_o natural_a sense_n to_o which_o add_v that_o as_o in_o those_o instance_n which_o he_o cite_v it_o be_v apparent_a that_o the_o place_n will_v not_o bear_v the_o word_n in_o its_o natural_a sense_n so_o on_o the_o contrary_a those_o place_n of_o this_o book_n in_o which_o m._n boileau_n will_v expound_v it_o in_o a_o improper_a sense_n will_v bear_v none_o but_o the_o natural_a and_o primitive_a sense_n of_o the_o word_n n._n 54._o where_o he_o render_v secundum_fw-la creaturarum_fw-la substantiam_fw-la the_o visible_a creature_n as_o they_o appear_v the_o place_n necessary_o determin_n any_o unbiased_a judgement_n to_o understand_v the_o word_n proper_o and_o in_o the_o sense_n of_o aristotle_n for_o which_o m._n boileau_n frequent_o declare_v his_o aversion_n have_v bertram_n design_v only_o to_o say_v that_o the_o same_o sensible_a quality_n remain_v quale_n and_o tale_n will_v more_o apt_o have_v express_v his_o sense_n videntur_fw-la sense_n nam_fw-la secundum_fw-la creaturarum_fw-la substantiam_fw-la quod_fw-la fuerunt_fw-la ante_fw-la consecrationem_fw-la hoc_fw-la et_fw-la postea_fw-la consistunt_fw-la panis_n &_o vinum_fw-la prius_fw-la extitere_fw-la in_fw-la qua_fw-la etiam_fw-la specie_fw-la jam_fw-la consecrata_fw-la permanere_fw-la videntur_fw-la than_o quod_fw-la and_o hoc_fw-la which_o he_o use_v and_o he_o will_v rather_o have_v say_v they_o have_v the_o appearance_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n before_o consecration_n which_o they_o retain_v after_o not_o peremptory_o that_o they_o be_v bread_n and_o wine_n before_o and_o continue_v after_o in_o the_o same_o specific_a nature_n mr._n boileau_n will_v not_o be_v well_o please_v if_o we_o shall_v refuse_v to_o take_v the_o word_n substance_n in_o its_o proper_a sense_n in_o some_o place_n of_o this_o book_n where_o it_o be_v very_o apparent_a that_o it_o be_v improper_o use_v for_o example_n n._n 30._o where_o ratram_n paraphase_v on_o our_o saviour_n word_n to_o his_o disciple_n 63._o disciple_n john_n vi_fw-la 62_o 63._o do_v this_o offend_v you_o what_o and_o if_o you_o shall_v see_v the_o son_n of_o man_n ascend_v up_o where_o he_o be_v before_o in_o this_o manner_n when_o after_o my_o resurrection_n you_o shall_v see_v i_o ascend_v into_o heaven_n carry_v with_o i_o my_o entire_a body_n and_o every_o drop_n of_o my_o blood_n 30._o blood_n sed_fw-la verè_fw-la per_fw-la mysterium_fw-la panem_fw-la et_fw-la vinum_fw-la in_o corporis_fw-la &_o sanguinis_fw-la mei_fw-la conversa_fw-la substantiam_fw-la a_o credentibus_fw-la sumenda_fw-la n._n 30._o than_o you_o will_v understand_v that_o my_o flesh_n be_v not_o to_o be_v eat_v by_o the_o faithful_a in_o the_o way_n that_o these_o infidel_n imagine_v but_o that_o they_o must_v receive_v bread_n and_o wine_n be_v in_o truth_n mystical_o turn_v into_o the_o substance_n of_o my_o body_n &_o blood._n now_o there_o be_v two_o thing_n which_o will_v not_o permit_v we_o to_o take_v the_o word_n substance_n proper_o 1._o the_o author_n say_v that_o the_o thing_n to_o be_v receive_v by_o the_o faithful_a be_v sumendam_fw-la be_v panem_fw-la &_o vinum_fw-la sumenda_fw-la non_fw-la uti_fw-la in_o pridem_fw-la editis_fw-la sumendam_fw-la bread_n and_o wine_n which_o appear_v manifest_o to_o any_o impartial_a reader_n who_o observe_v the_o syntax_n according_a to_o m._n boileau_n edition_n from_o the_o ms._n for_o the_o participle_n be_v of_o the_o plural_a number_n and_o neuter_n gender_n which_o plain_o refer_v to_o bread_n and_o wine_n and_o not_o as_o in_o the_o former_a edition_n sumendam_fw-la refer_v to_o our_o saviour_n flesh_n this_o i_o do_v not_o observe_v when_o i_o correct_v the_o latin_a text_n according_a to_o the_o lobez_n ms._n and_o therefore_o have_v not_o alter_v the_o translation_n 2._o he_o say_v it_o be_v mysterium_fw-la be_v vere_n per_fw-la mysterium_fw-la