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A86881 Animadversions and considerations upon a sheet, printed for Francis Smith containing a confession of the faith of several catapædobaptists, whose names are thereunto subscribed. As also the absurdities of the doctrine of arminianism, free-will, and general redemption; and that it is a popish doctrine; and their objections briefly answered. By J. H. Humfrey, John, 1621-1719.; Humphreys, John, b. 1637. 1679 (1679) Wing H3666A; ESTC R224279 30,889 102

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is Disciple all Nations But the Question may be asked How shall we Disciple them the Answer is Baptizeing them c. then teach them to observe all things c. the Jews did so Disciple their Children and Children Acts 15. are called Disciples and doubtless the Righteousness of Christ and the Kingdom of Heaven is given to the Elect of them Mat. 18.4 5 6. 1 Cor. 14 20. Mark 9.42 Luke 17.1 2. and belongs to them and therefore the Sign of the Covenant belongs to them which is the Water of Baptism and the very rantizing or sprinckling in the Figure is sufficient because the Sprinckling the Blood in the Substance is sufficient 1 Pet. 1.2 The same way that Abraham was Discipled are all aged ones in all times that being ignorant of God's Covenant never knew it or received the Figure before and this by teaching them the Covenant of God as God taught Abraham and then set the Sign on them But the way to Disciple Infants as in that day by Circumcision so in this day by Baptism Acts 15.10 1 Cor. 12.13 Their Children were called Disciples and so are ours Disciples of right if the Substance of the Covenant of Grace be the same as it is for there is no new thing sub Coelis and our Baptism now doth Baptize into the whole Body or Church Universal 1 Cor. 12.13 that is into the number of the Elect and not into particular visible Congregations and when they do actually believe then are they Members of the visible particular Church actual Members and then as Baptism shadowed out their cleansing by Christ's Blood and the Application of it to them in the Womb by God So doth the Supper when they believe figure out Christ's Redemption and Satisfaction to them by his Blood Joh. 6. ult 1 Cor. 11. ult And though the Sacraments be distant in Administration and Respect of time yet Satisfaction Redemption and Cleansing was actually done at once for all the Elect by Christ John 18.34 35. with 1 Jo. 5.6 7 8. and yet I say the Elect have their cleansing sealed and signed Externally for the Internal Seal is the Spirit Ephes 1.13 Rom. 4. mostly in their Infancy because God imputes Christs Righteousness to them in their Infancy Rom. 9.10 3. Gal. 1.16 Mat. 19.14 And because Baptism is not a Communion Sacrament as the Supper is 1 Cor. 11. hence they did not eat the Pascal Lamb till they were able to stand on their Feet eat bitter Herbs and walk Exod. 12. for the Pascal Lamb under the old Administration of Grace was the Sign of Christ's Death for the Elect as the Supper is now both figuring out the same thing to wit the pardon of Sins by Christs bearing them as the Lamb taking them away John 1.29 only that figur'd out the actual time of discharge of the Elect to come but the Supper that the actual time is past Heb. 9.29 and ch 10.14 Neither is Baptism the way of making visible Churches but Profession of the true Faith of Christ Rom. 10.11.10.12 Gal. 3.26 By Faith and not by Baptism you make Baptism your Christ and so slight the Lords Blood by placing life in the Figures But the Apostle when some in his time see 1 Cor. 1. did too much magnifie it he thanked God that he he had not Baptized but a few Families and tells them His Mission was to preach the Gospel A more weighty Affair than administring Baptism though both belonged to him The Apostles never preached up Baptism as the Catabaptists do And though Circumcision did make Disciples of right yet it did not make them visible and actual Disciples but Faith in God's Covenant and the eating the Pascal Lamb was a or the visible Communion as the Supper is now to professed Believers You belie the word of God to prove your own Heresie For this you must answer one day mark it Generation was not the way of the Jews intromiting Church-Members or making them It was the knowledge of God's gracious Covenant Gen. 15.6 Faith in Christ as now Christs Priestly Office took away the Sins of the Elect under the old Administration or Testament as well as now under the new The Covenant was and is substantially and formally the same only differs diathetically and by way of Administration Heb. 8. Jer. 31.31 32 33. 1 Joh. 2.1 2 3. Why do you lye against the Scriptures and say That Vnscriptural Sprinckling for 1 Pet. 1.2 as the Blood of sprinckling purges away the Sins of the Elect so will the Water of sprinckling sufficiently figure it out A little Wax will seal a great Lease when the Covenants therein are firmly agreed do you know what you prate of the Bond-woman and her Son You your selves are Children of the Bond-woman Gal. 4 The Seed of the Adulterer and Whore Isay 57.34 10. and 12. You trust in the life of your hand in your Faith Repentance and Obedience for your formal justification as all Papists do and as the carnal Jews did suppose that the Law of works was given for them to fulfill in their own persons and what they failed of it was to be supplyed by the Sacrifices and Ceremonies Thus mistaking the whole Order and End of the Law which was to carry them to Christ the Mediator who was ordained in his person to fulfill all the Law of God and that Righteousness of his to be imputed to the Elect for their justification and received by Faith when God gave it them to believe And so the Law at Sina given in Thunder and Tempest was to shew them their Sinfulness Rom. 3.19 20 21 22. and God's Wrath boyling against Sinners Rom. 1. and 2. ch who all in Adam have violated Gods holy Law Rom. 3. and come short of the Glory of God by it and to break the Rock of their Carnal Confidence and security 2 Cor. 3. Exod. 19. and 20. To bring the Elect thereby humbly to submit to Christ the Everlasting Mediator on whom the Lord laid all the Sins of the Elect Isay 53.6 11. 1 Pet. 2.24 25. Mica 7.18 19. Psal 89. and Psal 80. ult and imputes his Personal Righteousness to them for their justification 2 Cor. 5.21 Gal. 3.13 Now as they corrupted their Administration of Grace under the Old Testament so do you and your Generation Pelagians Arminians and Papists under the New Testament For the Apostle in that Text Gal. 4. opposes the Covenant of Grace to the Covenant of Works or to the Law made by the Jews as a Covenant of Works as aforesaid and not the New Testament or Administration of Grace against the Old for as they did take the Law for a Covenant of Works so do you the Gospel calling Faith Repentance and Obedience the Conditions of it which are freely given to them as Fruits of the pardon of Sins not procurers and rejecting the imputed Righteousness of Christ as Papists do and make the Acts of your Faith to justifie you which is full of Sin yea full of
Errour and Heresie and therefore your Righteousness shall not profit you in the day of Christ because you are not wholly freed by Christ but Sons of the Bond-woman There were never but two Covenants for Matter and Form that of Works and that of Grace directly opposite one to the other The Covenant of Works was never by Divine Institution established to men since Adam's fall but immediately taken up by Christ the Elects Surety and laid on his Shoulders Isay 9. Being freely wrought in and by him for them is a Covenant of Grace to them but of Works to Christ who obtained all by his Works for them This Covenant of Grace hath two Administrations one under the Old Testament before the Law at Horeb and after the Law to Christ's time in the Flesh Then began the New Testament and Administration of Grace to the Elect more glorious by far than the other for Administration though in respect of the very Substance of the Covenants the Stipulator and Mediator Christ who undertook it for them the Father gave him from Eternity Titus 1.1 2. 2 Tim. 1.9 10. Rom. 8.29 30 31. Ps 89. Isay 53.6 Zac. 9.11 and 6.14 In that of Works in Paradise there was Faith and perfect Obedience but no Repentance Confession or Sorrow of Sin or new Obedience was admitted in that but in that of Grace there is Faith but different from that Faith in the Covenant of Works and new Obedience and Repentance Confession and Sorrow for sin admitted of none of these but to formally justifie only Faith in Christ receives justification and Repentance and New Obedience follows as fruits of Faith and of the pardon of sin which sundamentally hangs on Christ's bearing sin away and satisfying for it once for all Neither doth our Faith or Repentance or new Obedience make us Righteous but Christ's Righteousness fulfilling the Covenant of Works in his own person and imputed to us and received by Faith as given of God for that purpose Ephes 2.5 6 7. Neither is our Repentance or Confession or New Obedience or sorrow for sins committed any part of our Righteousness before God but as to man being wrought by the Spirit of Christ in us follow the pardon of our sins and our being made Righteous and follow Faith also in this administration of Grace publickly Gal. 3. and are not the Grounds or Causes of pardon or Receivers but the absolute Fruits and Effects in the Elect believing Besides The Law at Horeb was to the Jews a conditional Covenant for Temporal Blessings and being broke incurred Temporal Cursings which as such a Covenant expired when Christ came and the Paedagogy of the Jews ceased only the Law as in the Spiritual Power of it as a demonstrative Law in the hand of Christ and the Spirit to humble the Elect and make them sensible of their condition and misery by the fall from the Covenant of Works in innocency as in Adam the only Hole at which all Curse Wrath and Misery Spiritual and Temporal entred Rom. 5. That they may fall on Christ and at his Feet for all Redemption and Help out of themselves thus the Law continues still and for want of this Spiritual Ax Mal. 4. to cut down and humble you that you may appear as nothing but Firebrands for Hell it is that you and all your proud Generations have perverted Christ's Gospel and established a new one Gal. 1.8 9. the which makes your case worse you are insensible of it but glory and triumph in your cursed Bondage Gal. 4. Your justification is full of sin and you make Christ to purchase a sinful justification Gal. 2. and so the Minister of sin you make him while you prate that he removed the Covenant of Works and satisfyed that and procured a Lex remediens a milder Law that is that by Faith Repentance and Obedience we may be justified and so you make sin to justifie for all our Faith and Repentance and Obedience is but filthy Rags Isay 64.6 Phil. 3. and full of sin And Christ faith That when they have done all that 's their duty that is to believe to repent and obey Luke 17. then are they unprofitable Servants Ergo you make sin to justifie when you make Faith actually to justifie 2ly you make Christ the upholder of sin when you with the Papists your Brethren make Christs Blood to purchase a sinfull justification that is that our Faith and Repentance shall justifie Do you see the Pelagian Arminian Papistical Crew upon what Rocks and sholes you split your selves and all to bring in a new and another Gospel to damn you and to exclude Christ's everlasting Righteousness or the Law of works perfectly fulsilled in his person to be imputed to poor sinful undone ruined Worms for their free and real justification Now all these Imperfections are covered to true Believers with the same Righteousness that covers their persons Tit. 1.15 And so both they and all their Performances and Righteousness though in it self faulty is accepted and sanctified and all the sinfulness of it and them covered Ps 32. Rom. 4.5 6 7. This is a benefit peculiar to the Elect who truly believe and receive the imputation of Christ's Righteousness and not to you that cannot cry 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 but 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 whose Ruine Damnation lingers not except in infinite Mercy he give you humility and poverty of Spirit Faith in that truth of the true Jesus and everlasting Covenant and Repentance for your Blasphemies and Errours as a Fruit of the pardon of your sins by their transaction on him and the Evidence of your Faith in receiving his Righteousness c. So unless you are freed by Jesus from all sin and misery in esse or posse coming on you in Gods sight from Adam's fall or by your own actual and daily Transgressions and from all the sin and spottedness of all your most holy Duties your Faith Prayers Repentance and new Obedience though wrought puerly in you by Christ's Spirit as true Believers and freed from allsin past present and to come by the transaction of them on Christ by the Father Isa 53.6 and the imputation of his pure Righteousness to your persons received by Faith alone you are not free indeed by the Son Jo. 8.31 32. but in Bondage under the Law and Curse thereof Deut. 27. ult with your Children Your twelfth Article is swollen big with an absolute Errour drawn from the practice of the Apostles laying on of hands not ministerially as a sign of the approbation of Elders but as an Apostolical practice which did with them cease as being fruitless and uneffectual beyond their time and unpractised in the ordinary Churches nor at all upon any Record of Command more than James anointing with Oyl which Papists make a Sacrament or Christ's washing his Disciples Feet But because it is sufficiently confuted by Colonel Danvers a Brother of yours in the water but I hope in the Spirit built on better Principles
Christ the Lord. And lastly the old Whores Purgatory is better than your mortality for a live Dog is better than a dead Lyon Eccles 9.4 The one and twentieth Article acknowledgeth a general Judgment but tacitly denieth the particular Judgment because the Authors of the Article deny the Immortality of the Soul from the time of the death of the Body to the general Resurrection as I said before It is saith Paul appointed once for every man to die and after that death to Judgment that is every particular man for the Premises is particular therefore the Assumption must be particular the death he speaks of is a particular death Ergo the Judgment that follows is a particular Judgment which I say these good Gentlemen tacitly deny It is absurd that the Soul should not live a moment for if the Soul be immortal à parte post that is from the instant of its infusion into the Body it may not desist from life a moment for then it would lose its Immortality If we grant you Mortality of the Soul for a time they may as well beg its Mortality for ever for to unreasonable persons that have not the true Faith of Christ grant an Inch and they will crave an Ell. But I pass to the two and twentieth Article which is like a Jewel in a Swines Snout What the Kingdom of Christ set upon the Foundation of the Whore of Babylon and Antichrist it loaths my Soul to see it The Reign of Christ in the Kingdoms of the World in his Saints in a restorative Apostolical manner before the final dissolution of the World is and ever was the Judgment and Faith of Saints and not only so but at the general Judgment when Christ shall again the second time appear Acts 1. in that glorified body of his and descend from the Throne in that flesh he did ascend with the innumerable Societies of Saints and Angels the then living Saints being changed 1 Thes 4. ult Phil. 3. ult to meet the Lord in the Clouds of Heaven and together with him to return to take the Kingdoms of the World into his possession Dan. 7. Rev. 11. and so to judge the Earth and give his beheaded and suffering Sons Rev. 20. quiet and peaceable enjoyment of the new Heavens and new Earth Isai 63. and 2 Pet. 3. till the second and last Trumpet 1 Cor. 15. whether numerically for a thousand years or less or more may be disputable by some but for the sum and substance hath been owned from the very Apostles days by the Fathers as Papias Justin Martyr and Irenaeus and almost if not all except August and Jerom who yet spake very favourably fo the Chyleasts or fifth Monarchical Judgment Licet non sequamur tamen damnare non possumus quia mult● Ecclesiasticorum virorum ista dixerunt Jer. 23. Ep. de regnand secundo Christi But to set up this glorious Truth and Kingdom of Jesus Christ upon a rotten Papistical Pelagian Arminian Heretical Antichristian Foundation you will receive the reward of the Pharisees Mat. 7. Lord we have prophesied in thy Name and cast out Devils but saith Christ depart from me ye cursed into everlasting fire prepared for unbelievers The three and twentieth Article pleads for the holy Scriptures to be the Rule of Faith and Life it is one thing to take the Letter of the Scripture with the Doctrine and sense of the Holy Ghost included and another thing to accept for our Rule the humane glosses of mens natural or deluded spirits the latter of which is equal with their Errour that deny the regular Authority of the Scriptures The Letter of the Scriptures and the Spirit of Jesus are both in Commission from Christ our Prophet to teach his people they that exclude the Spirit and pretend the Letter are as unfortunate as Arminians Socinians Pelagians and other Carnal Hereticks but they that reject the Letter and pretend the Spirit are swallowed up of Enthusiastical Delusions as Quakers and such like For whom God hath joyned together we must not dare to separate asunder without incurring the Curse of adding or diminishing The twenty fourth Article pleads for Liberty of Conscience in spiritual matters It is not to be doubtted but that the Saints of God ought to have their liberty to worship God and to hinder them is the greatest sin next to the sin against the Holy Ghost but the question is who are the Saints 2. Whether false worshippers may have liberty from godly Magistrates 1. Saints are either called to the Faith of Christ and so to the profession of it and such are visible though they may differ among themselves in some circumstances 2. Saints that are Elect but uncalled may be among them that are false worshippers till called the first only worship God truly because none can worship God truly but such as truly believe in the Son of God according to the Declaration of God and that Record he hath given in the Word of his Son viz. that Christ was made Sin and a Curse that he laid their sins on Christ and so freed them and their Curse and so that Righteousness of the Law fulfilled in his Person as God-man is imputed to them for their whole Righteousness which they by Faith alone receiving are visible Saints and do worship God truly they that have not this Faith though Angels in appearance are but false worshippers because the Law of Faith in Christ is the fulfilling of the whole Law directly the first Table towards God Exod. 20. containing first four Commandments that is fulfilled compleatly in a true Believer and forasmuch as Love flows from Faith so is the second Table fulfilled in a true believer but this fulfilling the Law by Faith in a Believer is not his Justification or Righteousness before God for that is Christs fulfilling it in his Person Rom. 8.2 3 4. and Gods imputing it to the sinner Rom. 4.5 6 7. and Faith as an Instrument receives it and applies it to its self So then the Act of Faith in us doth not justifie for then our Works and the Law would justifie but it is still Christ alone that justifies Rom. 8. To the second question the Magistrate may restrain false worshippers See Rev. 2.20 and 2 Cor. 10.5 the Instruments of the Church for this purpose are spiritual 1 Cor. 5. delivering the proud and contemptible to Satan and the godly Magistrate is but a Ruling Elder whether in a Congregation or Nation Let the Tares grow with the Wheat some say is meant of secret Hypocrites but I suppose that blood-shed consiscation or any corporal persecution in this day is not to be in any wise inflicted on deluded Consciences The twenty fifth and last Article seems to contradict his Predecessor for he allows the Magistrate to punish evil doers and incourage the good but his Predecessor flatly denies the Magistrate to have any thing to do with matters of Divine Worship Now among the Pretenders to Spiritual Worship three
And so thought the unbelieving Jews under the Law so do you under the Gospel and with the same Irony as the Prophet did them I answer you Go to then make you a clean heart and purge away all your sins clean out of God's sight get you a sinless Faith and Repentance and fulfill the whole Law in your persons perfectly and then God will perhaps receive you But secondly I answer Who art thou that replyest against God Object 4. The Scriptures bids all repent and believe Answer It speaks especially to all the Elect of Jew and Gentile Or ministerially to all universally but spiritually and effectually to the Sheep the Elect. Object 5. God don't desire a Sinner's death but that he repent Answer He dont desire the death of Elect Sinners nor never did for he hath loved them with an Everlasting love a parte ante post Jer. 31.3 Object 6. Then is God a respecter of persons Answer So he is 1. by way of decree for he respected Abel and rejected Cain because he had elected the one and rejected the other and so the person of Jacob and hated the person of Esau before they did good or evil Secondly Officially he respects mens persons for Ministers shall shine as the Stars and I have said ye are Gods to Magistrates and not to all and the Man is the Image and Glory of God according to the place and Authority of an Husband So is not the Wife as a Wife and a Woman See 1 Cor. 11. therefore they that contend and despise and rule over their Husbands are meritricious Gentlewomen and Amazon's terrible Monsters generated out of corruption and the worser part of Evah but the works done by his redeemed and justifyed Children he respects not their persons for their works but for Christs Righteousness imputed he respects both them and their works and will reward them Neither doth he respect the Beauty Riches or Wisdom of any man so as to respect the person for those things though good in themselves Object 7. He gave himself a ransom for all Answer for all his Elect definitively which shall be testify'd in their proper times Kainois idiois that is when he by his Spirit calls and doth convert them Object 8. It is not our works but Christ that works in us Free-will Faith Repentance and new Obedience Answer Though he does it is but filthy Rags Isay 64.6 Phil. 3. but Dross Dung and loss as to our justification Nothing can justifie in any Covenant but a perfect Righteousness performed in a perfect and righteous person that never sinned Rom. 8.2 3. Hab. 1.13 Rom. 7. Object 9. This Doctrine of Election and Reprobation will dishearten people from using the means Answer It will not Gods Elect but rather hearten them Secondly All are commanded ministerially to use the means and have Abilities to do it yea the blind may hear Rom. 10.10 11 12 13. but spiritually the Spirit blows where it listeth John 3. the Spirit is but given to the Sons alone Gal. 4.6 Mat. 13. John 12.40 Object 10. Disobedience to the Law brought and incurred but temporal punishments but to the Gospel Eternal punishments Heb. 12.2 Ans Disobedience to every or to one Tittle of the Law incurs now and ever did Eternal Condemnation for the wages of Sin is Eternal death and Sin is but a transgression of the Law Ergo the transgression of the Law deserves Eternal Death But the Jews as they were under the Law given at Sinai had a Temporal Conditional Covenant to restrain their exhorbitant Spirits and allure them by Temporal Blessings 1 Tim. 1.5 9. There were three ends of the giving the Law at Sinai 1. To shew the dreadfulness of the fall and breach of that Law in Paradise and that at the last Day God shall in Thunder and Flame judge the Bodies and Souls of all that fell and are not reconciled by Christ or covered with his Righteousness Rom. 4.6 7 8. Psal 32. or for whom he hath not fulfilled it in his most sinless and excellent person and so it is a demonstrative Covenant of works Rom. 3.19 shewing Sin and breaking in pieces the self-conceited carnal hearts of Gods Elect that they may receive the Grace of God in Christ by Faith Gal. 3.24 Isay 42.18 19 20. And this was then Externally and Internally and Spiritually and internally now in them that are called the use of the Law to bring them in the hand of Christ to nothing but despiration in and because of sin and self-impotency within and without that so they may in emptiness and poverty receive by Faith a full and able rich Christ Which when it hath done by Faith the Law vanishes out of the Conscience like a baffled Giant and retires into the Flesh to curb that to its duty and is then a Commandment and Law of Love upon the new Covenant heart of a Believer to freely move him according to the External Rule and Matter of the means to glorifie Christ in the World 2 Cor. 3. and 2 Cor. 5. the love of Christ constrains us Secondly a second end of the Law at Sinai was to be a rule to the Elect Believers then to walk with God whose Heart and Will the Law represents And so it was put in the Ark A Type of Christ in whom now the Law is for a Believers Rule Thirdly It was given as a Temporal Conditional Covenant to frighten the stubborn Jews from Rebellion and to engage them to Righteousness a thing God did and does delight in And so the breaches were as in this respect punished but with a Temporal Death and Punishment and the Performers with Temporal Life and Blessings and as such a Covenant its Epoca began at Sinai and did end when Christ came in the Flesh The ignorance of this distinction is the root of all Errours and Heresies And so it was to the Jews under that Testament of Grace as it is now to us under the new and last Testament of Grace sealed and confirmed not with the Blood of Creatures and Beasts but with the Blood of Christ the Son of God to the everlasting Comfort of the Elect Believers Object 11. This Doctrine General Redemption sets all on work to use the means and to endeavour Answer Have ye never read or heard of Penelope that famous Wife that when her Husband was gone to the Trojan-war and thought to have been slain by his long tarrying and she having many Woers perplexing her not delighting her as they do the Ladies of these times was spinning for Ladies in those more ancient times were good House-wifes though now they are many of them Sluts and she put back the sharp importunities of her Rivals with this defence That when she had spun off her Web she would answer them Now to prove her self Loyal to her Husband and deceptious to her Rivals she unspun in the Night what she had spun in the day Hence we call all labour in vain The spinning of Penelope
them up to Sun-beams which if they can't endure they cast them down as none of their own it is to do all works obedience and repentance quid non in the light of Christs Righteousness and Justification from all sin guilt and wrath by Christ and then 't is freely done and not for any reward for repent believe obey is to be justified but sincerity is to do them because I am freely justified by Christs transaction of my sins and his perfect Righteousness imputed to me This is the mark of Popery and Pharisaicality which in the end will batter you all to pieces The 2d word is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which signifies Innocence and Simplicity as it were non cornibus feriense ex à privative and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 not to stick with horns or to be pushed at as only the innocent perfect Keepers of Gods Law as freed from Deut. 27. ult for except all sin be clearly abolished without any spot wrath will break out Now is your Arminian Faith and Repentance and Obedience so spotless else wrath will break out upon you one day or other and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 forum 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 aufero as if all sin must be quite taken away or else the work is not sincere but Faith and Repentance is our work because done in us though by the Spirit And the Apostle in 1 Cor. 2. saith The natural man cannot receive the things of God which it might if yours were the things of God for there is no Mystery in your Arminian Pelagian Papistical and Socinian Doctrines but meerly Reason And that word in 1 Cor. 2. may be well and properly read the rational man or reason it self cannot receive the things of God for they are a mystery Pseuchicos Anthropos the rational man for the Soul is the subject of Reason and before Faith is given is rational but not spiritual 't is Faith in the Blood of Christ wrought by the Spirit of Christ that makes it truly spiritual But Pucksius the Jesuit answers for you to that place in Rom. 4. alledged that the Apostle admired because he knew the depths of Gods Counsels and that it was beneath so great an Apostle not to know the depths of God I leave his foolish Assertion as not worth the answering and refer you and all your Tribe to Doctor Willet against the Papists in his Synopsis of the Controversies between the true Protestants and Papists where all your Doctrine is fully answered and confuted by irrefragable Argumentsl which when you have answered we will prepare new ones for you The tenth Absurdity if this universally be true then all have power to believe if they will contrary to Rom. 3.3 then all have Faith given them and then their unbelief resists Gods gift Consider which is the greatest Mystery the Doctrine of Election and Reprobation of persons freely from Eternity or conditional Election upon fore-sight of works or Faith or the Election of Seed not persons as the Quakers prate Arminians and Papists would be justified by obeying Christ without them Quakers by obeying Christ within them What difference is here but as much as is between an Heretick or Papist without doors in a plain dress and a Papist dressed up in a Mystery or an arrant Whore in honest Womens apparel sic etiam But neither will be justified by the obedience of Christ for them that they scorn that any man should pay their debts for them but give them but leave and let God have patience and they will pay him all their own way Mat. 18. 2. Consider which is most for the glory of Gods Justice Truth Mercy and Love and for exalting of Christ and Gods free grace for that of necessity must be the truth and all men lyars 3. Consider which is most for the security of Gods Children for that is Gods great care either to leave all men to their free will an invention much like the Popes Purgatory of later years congenerated out of the drunken Pates of filthy dreamers Jude Ep. to overthrow the Grace of God and Righteousness of Christ imputed for this Doctrine knows nor owns nothing of that kind of righteousness or to secure them in the hands of Christ without and above themselves and he and his Spirit to do all for and in them freely They object that by Jacob and Esau in Rom. 9. are meant two Nations and Peoples I answer with Calvin they do so But the Apostle doth not bring them in so but as two Persons signifying the Eternal free Personal Election and Reprobation of God either Gods will or mans will are most prevalent God desires not the death of a sinner yet they do die because they will not believe and repent when the Ministry bids them therefore to conclude that mans is more prevalent is blasphemy against God but if Gods Will is then is there eternal free personal Election and Reprobation I demand when did God give this grace to all men when did Christ restore all men if as soon as they fell in Adam then all are conceived and born pure contrary to Psalm 51. to David's experience and contrary to Psalm 58.3 for then the wicked could not err from the Womb and contrary to Prov. 22.15 for then is not iniquity bound up in the heart of a Child Now there are a parcel of Feminine and Womanish Objections drivelling at the unclean mouths of Quaking and Arminian Jezabels all which were they a thousand more and the strongest that their Jesuitical Tribe can bring are anticipated with an Answer by our great Apostle Rom. 9.19 20. in the 19th verse is the protoplot of all Objections and the Answer in the 20th verse Octject 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Who hath resisted his Will then if it stand in the Free and Personal Election before and without any thing in man or of man Why then doth he find fault Or Why doth he accuse us seeing we cannot help it Or Why doth he expostulate the Case with men As Why will ye dye c. Ans v. 20. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Yea say you me so O! man But who art thou that replyeth against God 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Or that judgest from the Truth against God as the Word signifies What will these busie Bodies and Tatlers not stick to meddle with God Shall the Clay oppose the Potter Shall the Ax resist the Hewer O! monstrum horrendum ingens cui lumen ademptum for indeed these Sophisters have but one Eye Object 1. If Christ dyed for all what need preaching Acts 13. ult 48. He that ordained the persons hath ordained the end for them and the means to come as via regnandi to that end Let this suffice for an Answer Object 2. If there be a particular Election then they shall be saved and the rest damned Answer Sape etiam stultus opportunè loquitur Fools may tell truth and so in this do you Object 3. This renders God unjust and unequal