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A50252 A defence of the Protestant Christian religion against popery: in answer to A discourse of a Roman Catholick Wherein the manifold apostaties, heresies, and schisms of the chruch of Rome, as also, the weakness of her pretensions from the scriptures and the fathers, are briefly laid open: by an English Protestant. Mather, Samuel, 1626-1671. 1672 (1672) Wing M1278; ESTC R217670 45,074 64

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condemn as such viz. as false and destructive unto Souls and dangerously intrenching upon the very Vitals and Fundamentals of Religion And if it be demanded of us What are the Heresies of the Church of Rome in this last sense This is a large Field Popery saith Dr. Ames Ames Cas l. 5. c. 4. de Haeres Non est una aliqua singularis Haeresis sed quasi corpus quoddam ex variis Haeresibus conflatum productum Sicut enim Mahumetismus est antecedentium Haeres●●n mixtura in Oriente Meridie sic Papismus quamvis aliâ specie variarum Haerese●n sentina est in Occidente Septentrione Popery is not one single Heresie but a Sink of many Heresies a dead Sea a Sodomitick Lake of many poysonous and erroneous Opinions Look as Mahometism is a mixture of former Heresies in the Eastern and Southern Countries so is Papism though under different pretensions a Sink of many Heresies in the Western and Northern parts of the old Roman Empire Take at present for I would not leave things at random these few Instances of the Heresies your Church hath fallen into It is easie seeing you call us to it it is easie in the strength of Christ in the evidence of his Word and Spirit to make good the Charge against Her CHAP. IV. Of the Heresies of the Church of Rome eight particulars instanced THe first grand Error of your Church is this Your Dethroning and Unlording the Scripture It is Christs own phrase Matth. 15.6 and Mark 7.13 by way of Reproof to your Predecessors those ancient Papists the Pharisees 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Unlording the Word of God through your Tradition But to this written Word did Jesus Christ appeal John 5.39 Search the Scriptures for in them ye think to have eternal life and they are they which testifie of me We are commanded to try the spirits 1 John 4.1 even by the Rule laid down in that Scripture ver 2. The Bereans are commended by the Holy Ghost as Christians of the right breed 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 because they would not take the Apostles Doctrine upon trust but searched the Scriptures daily whether those things were so Therefore many of them believed Acts 17 11 12. But with you it is a Nose of Wax attramentary Divinity of no more Authority in it self than Aesop's Fables or Titus Livius but that your Church hath christened it for Scripture but yet She tells us withall That we must receive Her Traditions Pari pietatis affectu reverentia Concil Trident S ss 4. Decret 1. with as much pious affection and reverence as we receive the Scripture So your Tridentine Council It is lamentable to consider how many Bibles you have burnt and how many Christians you have burnt alive for having Bibles and labouring to acquaint themselves therewith In King Henry the Eighth's time those of you who then had the conduct of Affairs in England did cause to be put forth a publick and authentick Instrument for the abolishing and inhibiting of the Scriptures wherein ye thus express your selves Da●ed May 24. 1531. That foras much as there is ingendered an Opinion in divers of his Subjects that it is his Graces duty to cause the Scripture of God to be Translated into the English Tongue to be communicated unto the people It appeareth That the having of the whole Scripture in English is not necessary to christen men Fox Acts and Mon. Vor. 2. E●it 1641. the divulging of the Scripture at this time in the English Tongue to be committed to the people considering such pestilent Books and so evil Opinions as be now spread among them should rather be to their further confusion and destruction than to the edification of their Souls Thus you said and did your worst but you could not hinder the Sun from rising at its appointed hour nor frustrate the Oath of him who sware that your time should be no longer and he gave the book to his servants to prophesie again Rev. 10. ver 6 9 11. This wretched neglect and contempt of the Scripture is the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the very corner stone of the Tower of Babel We look upon it as the first and chief of all your Heresies and the source and fountain of all the rest Ye do erre not knowing the Scripture Matt. 22.29 For there is a self-evidencing light and majesty in the Scripture it bears the stamp and impress of the Divine Attributes upon it which he that sees not must needs be blind as to other Truths also As he that cannot see the Sun when it shines at Noon-day can see nothing else he that cannot hear the voyce of Thunder is not like to be awakened by a silent whisper 2. The Authority and Infallibility of your Church and Pope as if they were not men but gods for humanum est errare Let God be true and every man a lyar Rom. 3.4 This is the great Idol that you set up against the Scripture and consequently against God himself for the Scripture is God speaking to Mankind Hence it is written of Antichrist that he exalteth himself above all that is called God or that is worshipped so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God shewing himself that he is God 2 Theff 2.4 He takes upon him to dispense even with the Laws of God therefore it is made the brand of a Reprobate to worship the Beast Revel 13.8 And the Lord denounces and thunders forth damnation to them Reve 14.9 10 11. The smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever and their doom is just for they make a god of him for put case the Pope should erre and go to Hell Bell. De summo Pontif. lib. 4. cap. 5. Bellarmine would fain make us believe that we are bound in conscience to go with him for thus he speaketh Si Papa exraret praecipiendo vitia vel prohibendo virtutes teneretur Ecclesia credere vitia esse bona virtutes malas nisi vellet contra conscientiam peccare If the Pope should erre in commanding Vices and forbidding Vertues the Church were bound to believe that Vice is good and that Virtue is evil unless she would fin against her Conscience Here is sweet Catholick Doctrine is it not yet such stuffe as this is of such value with you that the same Bellarmine saith Bell. Praefatin li●res ●e Fortif Quâ de re agitur cum de primatu Pontificis agitur brevissime dicam de summa rei Christianae The Primacy of the Pope sayes he is the sum of Christian Religion he means Antichristian 3. Your arrogant Attributions to corrupted Free-will in derogation to the sovereignty and efficacy of converting and electing Grace yea to the utter corrupting and undermining of sundry great Gospel-truths as Election Regeneration Assurance Perseverance your Free-will is an Error that draws a soul tail after it But the Scripture saith We are not born again of the will of man
will no more have mercy upon the house of Israel for ye are not my people and I will not be your God Hos 1.6 Plead with your mother plead for she is not my wife neither am I her husband Hos 2.2 God may remove the candlestick out of its place Rev. 2.5 You see in all these Scriptures what the Lord hath threatned and done to other Churches in dayes of old which as it utterly overthrows any such imagination That a True Church cannot fall away so it shews That your Church claims such a priviledge as never any Church enjoyed Go to Shiloh where I set my name at first Jer. 7.12 14. Go to Jerusalem and see what God hath done unto it for the wickedness of his people Israel Never any Church enjoyed such a priviledge as yours pretendeth to of Indefectibility and Impossibility of losing their Church estate and priviledges It was Christs own threatning to the Jewes The kingdom of God shall be taken from you and given to a Nation bringing forth the fruits thereof Matth. 21.43 Yea the Lord hath denounced the like Threatnings and brandished the same flaming Sword against the Church of Rome in particular and that from this very instance and example of the Jewish Church before mentioned Kem. 11.17 18 19 20 21 22. And if some of the branches were broken off and thou being a wild Olive tree wert grassed in among them Boast not against the branches which your Church doth against all the Churches in the World pretending to such transcendent priviledges and prerogatives above all other Sister-Churches But if thou boast thou bearest not the root but the root thee Thou wilt say the branches were broken off that I might be graffed in Well because of unbelief they were broken off and thou standest by faith Be not high-minded but fear This is written to Her that saith She cannot erre For if God spared not the natural branches take heed lest be also spare not thee Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God on them which fell severity but towards thee goodness if thou continue in his goodness otherwise thou also shalt be out off You see he threatneth Her with cutting off And he hath executed these his righteous Threatnings because She hath not continued in his goodness therefore he hath cut Her off and given Her a bill of Divorce having declared Her in the Scriptures of Truth to be Babylon and Her Head Antichrist even Babylan the Great the Mother of Harlots a monstrous Beast the principal object of all the vyals of his wrath And her Head a false Prophet a Star fullen from Heaven a persecuting Horn wearing out the Saints of the most High as it is written in these and the like Scriptures Daniel 7. and Dan. cap. 11. vers 36 c. 2 Thess 2. 1 Tim. 4.1 c. And it is the chief scope of the Book of the Revelation to discover and reveal Antichrist in every Chapter from the sixth to the twentieth This is something that doth some way concern this great Apostasie in all which Scriptures both of the Old and New Testament She may read as it were the Letters of her Divorce The Lord who was Her Husband having published them and left them upon Record to all the Churches that they may take notice that She is not his Wife nor he Her husband and that they may do as is written Revel 18 4. Come out of her my people that ye be not partakers of her sins and that ye receive not of bet plagues And accordingly we for our parts in obedience to this command have protested against Her and are come out from Her and our defence must be without shifts and subterfuges by making good the charge against Her What can She say for Her self How will She clear and vindicate Her self from all this fin and shame You attempt it under three Heads of Apostasic Haresie and Schism and I must follow you in your own method though it be none of the best But whether you took your Discourses hereof out of Fiat Lux for there they are verbatim there is more than a meer coincidence of matter or that Fiat Lux had learned them privately from you and then published them in Print suppressing your name I leave it to him and you to dispute that point and to your infallible Judge to determine it and judge between you Both he and you speak thus CHAP. II. Of the Nature and Kinds of Apostasie and of the Apostasies of the Church of Rome DISCOURSE This Church could not cease to be so but She must fall either by Apostasie Heresie or Schism ANSWER THis Enumeration is very defective and confused in that it makes Apostasie one particular species or kind of falling away whereas Apostasie and falling away is the same thing the one being a Greek word and the other English for Apostasie is contrary to the True Christian Religion which is the tying of man to God again from re and ligo after his fall in the bonds of Faith and Love or obedience of Love The Scripture everywhere makes these the two parts of True Religion 2 Tim. 1.13 Hold fast the form of sound words which thou hast heard of me in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus 1 Tim. 3.9 Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience Hence therefore there be two wayes of Apostasie viz. either from the Faith of the Gospel by fundamental ignorance and heresie and unbelief or from Gospel-obedience which is as large as the rule thereof of which David saith Thy Commandments are exceeding broad Psal 119.96 Therefore under this head comes Idolatry Superstition Schism Witchcraft Perjury Persecution Sedition Murther Whoredom Theft Equivocation c. Men may Apostatize and fa'l away from God by making shipwrack of the faith and by putting away a good conscience 1 Tim. 1.19 The Apostle speaks of some who profess they know God but in werks they deny him being abominable and disobedient and unto every good work reprobate Titus 1.16 But this kind of Apostasie by evil works and scandalous sins is omitted and forgotten which is another Error in your distribution though it is that which your Church and Popes are deeply guilty of notwithstanding all your boastings of your good works and merits and supererogations with God The sixth Trumpet instanceth in Idolatries Murthers Sorceries Fornications Thefts as Sins that do abound among you Revel 9. ult And all Histories bear witness to it The corruption of Life as well as Doctrine was so great before the Protestant Reformation so many the offences abuses and scandals and such the degenerated notoriety of them that as it was the common desire of Sober men in Luthers time that there might be a free and general Council in order to a general Reformation of the Church which all men observed to be wofully degenerated So there were Nine Select Cardinals and Prelates of your own Church C●sil Delect Card. Praed De Emendanda
Ecclesia Ann. 1538. See the Appendix cap. 8. who did privately advise the Pope to Reform things amiss in a Paper they presented to him he having asked their Advice wherein they do attaque the very Popes themselves as the Heads of the Apostasie and Fountains of Corruption to the whole Church Principium horum malorum vide fuisse quod nonnulli Pontifices tui Praedecessores prurientes auribus c. Wherein they do their Popes no wrong for they speak no worse of them then your own Historians represent them nor then Pope Adrian the Sixth did acknowledge them to be In his Instructions to his Legate Cheregatus and in his Letter to the Princes of Germany Assembled in the Imperial Dyet at Norimberge 1523. He saith S●imus in hac sede aliquot jam annis multa abominanda fuisse Fox's Acts and Mon. Vol. 2. pag. 78. Lampad Mellif Histor Part. 3. pag. 425. abusus in spiritualibus excessus in mandatis omnia denique in perversum mutata Se quidem non ignorare quid Scriptura docet nempe à Sacerdotibus populi iniquitatis originem scaturire ab ipsocapite Pontificio malum diffiuere in membra inferiora There have been saith he many years many Abominations in this See Abuses in Spirituals Excesses in Commands and all things perversly ordered The Fountain of Iniquity hath flowed from the Priests to the people as the Scripture saith and from the Pontificial Head the evil hath flowed into the inferiour members Thus he who as you say could not erre in judgment If a man would choose a Religion on purpose for the gratifying of his lusts Sir Walter Raleigh saith He knows none like Popery You have so many wayes to dispense with your Consciences and to indulge Sinners a licentious liberty to take their swinge in their lusts Your last swarm of Locusts the Jesuites have made it their business to corrupt all Morality as is to be seen at large in the Book called The Mystery of Jesuitism Moreover there is yet a third oversight in your Enumeration over and above both the former for as a Church which was once true and pure may cease to be so by such backslidings as have been instanced on her part so she may cease to be at all by righteous and destroying Judgments on Gods part which is also the case of the Old Church of Rome Providence having cut them off by the Sword of the Goths and Vandals and other Northern Nations about 400 years after Christ as he did the ten Tribes by the Assyrians of old and he hath substituted another people and language in their Land and place viz. those we call Italians as he did the Samaritans in the Land of Israel And as then so now the Successors are worse and further off from God than their degenerate Predecessors whom they saw the Lord destroy and cut off before their eyes Now suppose the Samaritans of old had pleaded a Plea not unlike yours viz. thus The Israelites were a true famous flourishing Church in the dayes of Moses and Joshuah and in the dayes of David and Solomon therefore we Samaritans are so now The Answer is easie You are neither of the same Religion no nor yet so much as the same people for they were Israelites but ye Samaritans So here What though there was in the dayes of Paul a Gospel Church of Romans at Rome though so far as appears not very great or numerous in those dayes but that ever there was such a Church of Samaritans or Italians there a pure Church there since the Roman people were cut off and their Language ceased to be a Mother-tongue and the Italian came in place Hoe tibi incumbit demonstrandum prove this if you can Alas the True Church is dead and gone from thence above 1000 years ago and a monstrons Beast with Ten crowned Horns is risen up instead thereof But you proceed to the first Head of your Distribution thus DISCOURSE Apostasie is not only a Renouncing of the Faith of Christ but of the very Name and Title of Christianity No man will say That the Church of Rome bad ever such a fall or fell thus ANSWER You thus restrain the word Apostasie to the grossest and deepest degree thereof that so you may the better defend your Church from the guilt of this sin But there is no necessity so to restrain it for there may be deep Apostasie from God under a name and outside profession of Religion It is written of the Church of Sardis Revel 3.1 Thou hast a name that thou livest but art dead Neither the Scripture nor the original signification of the Greek word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which signifies a falling away nor the common and ordinary use of it requires that there be in it a Renouncing of the very Name and Title of Christianity It is used in sundry places of Scripture where no such Restraint is intimated as Acts. 21.21 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Thou teachest the Jews to forsake Moses And concerning Antichrist 1 Tim. 4.1 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Some shall apostatize or depart from the faith And again 2 Thess 2.3 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 except there come a falling away first And ver 7. This Apostasie is called A Mystery of Iniquity Therefore it shall not be an open total professed Apostasie but partial and palliated over with fair umbrages and plausible pretensions else why is it called A Mystery of Iniquity and Mystical Babylon Nor do you indeed your own selves alwayes use the word Apostasie onely in that gross sense for you scruple not to bestow the title of Apostate as well as Heretick upon Luther and the Protestant Churches though neither he nor we ever did nor through grace ever will Renounce the Name and Title of Christianity Cyprian warning the Saints and people of God in his time to take heed of spiritual and sitbtile Delusions Cypr. De Vnitate Ecclefia open and professed persecution being not their only danger He sheweth how Sathan perceiving that by the large diffusion and spreading of Gospel-light Pagan Idolatry and their Temples were much forsaken Excogitavit novam fraudem ut sub ipso Christiani nominis titulo fallat Incautos He hath bethought himself of a new deceit whereby to mislead unwary Souls under the very Name and Title of Christianity Sathan saith he transforming himself into an Angel of light and suborning his Ministers as Ministers of righteousness bringing night for day Antichristum sub vocabulo Christi Antichrist under the name of Christ The Church of Israel in the time of her Apostasie did not Renounce the very Name and Title of Jehovah but they did worship and swear by the Lord and by Malcham too Zephan 1.5 So those mungrel Samaritans 2 Kings 17.33 41. They professed Ezra 4.2 We seek your God as you do as fair a pretension as any your Church can make And in Christs time they had some confused notions and expectations of the Messiah John 4.29
They had learned to say our father Jacob as well as you can say Saint Peter John 4.12 So in like manner the Church of Rome though She hath not Renounced the very Name and Title of Christianity yet She is deeply guilty of Apostasie from God divers other wayes both in her Head and Members She is and may be called an Apostate Church as having fallen away from the Faith and Doctrine of the Gospel by fundamental Unbelief Ignorance and Herefie and from Gospel obedience by the most abominable profaneness of life by the grossest kind of sins and scandals against all the Ten Commandments concerning which you prudently forbear to say any thing but concerning the former head viz. Apostasie from the Faith Your Defence is this CHAP. III. Of the Nature of Heresie DISCOURSE Heresie is an adbesion to some private and singular Opinion or Error in Faith contrary to the general and approved Doctrine of the Church If Rome did ever adhere to any such Opinion c. By what General Council was it ever condemned Which of the Fathers ever wrote against Her Or by what Authority was She ever Reproved ANSWER This Description of Heresie and the Queries grounded thereupon as they are not agreeable either to the Scriptural or Ecclesiastical sense and use of the Word so they are indeed no better than a begging of the thing in question between you and us For you know we hold That the Rule whereby to judge of Heresie is the Scripture and not the Opinions of Churches of Fathers Mr. Gales Idea of Jansenism Histor dogmat Part. 2. Sect. 28. p. 157. or Councils Tertullian makes it the Badge of an Heretick to decline the Scriptures he saith They are Noctue Lucifugae Scripturarum Night Owls that do not love the light of that Sun yea some of your own Church who are the pars sanion thereof if yet they be of you have said That it is an Herefie to judge of Heresies without the Word of God So the Jansenists And the Reason why the generality of Papists are so desirous to derline the Scripture is because they are conscious to themselves that it is against them as Mr. White hath well observed 〈◊〉 of Brisom White 's way to the Church Sect. 7. Numb 8. Bristow Motiv ult Canus loc lib. 3. cap. 3. Confil. Episc Bononi Congreg Anno 1553. De stabilienda Roman Eccles Fol. 5. who teaching his Scholar how to deal with a Protestant 〈…〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 proud Heretick out of his weak and false Castle of unely Scripturs into the plain field of Traditions Miracles Councils and Fathers and then like Cowards They shall not stand Another Papist saith There is more strength is confine Hereticks in Traditions than in the Scriptures yea all Disputations with them must be determined by Traditions Those Reverend Fathers of your Church that met at Bononia by the Popes appointment to consult of the means for establishing of the Church of Rome or healing the Wound of the Daughter of Babel in the counsel they gave to Pope Julius the Third They do confess Certè vix umbram quandam retinemus in nostris Ecclesus ejus Doctrinae Disciplinae quae Apostolorum temporibus floruerunt prorsùs aliam accersivimus The truth is we searce retain a shadow in our Churches of that Doctrine and Discipline which flourished in the Apostles times but we have brought in altogether another There was no mention Fol. 2. say they for we may confess the Truth to your Holiness but it must he kept close either of Popes or Cardinals in the Apostles times nor of some years after There were no Monasteries nor Priors nor Abbots much less were there these Doctrines these Laws these Customs no nor that Empire which now we enjoy over several people and Nations They say further That the not studying the Canon Law and Sophistry and Metaphysicks c. Fol 5. But learning the Greek and Hebrew Tongues and examining Translations by the Greek and Hebrew verity hath been the cause and fountain of the late decay of the Church of Rome and of the deplorable state and condition of her Affairs at this day And finally which they reserve to the last place as the weightiest of all their ghostly counsels They advise That as little as may be of the Gospel Fol. penult be read amongst the people in their vulgar Tongue For hic ille in summa est liber qui praeter caeteros hasce nobis tempestates acturbines conciliavit quibus prope abrepti sumus For this is in brief That Book which above all others hath raised and brought upon us these storms and whirlewinds by which we are almost carried away headlong Thus speak they It appears by all this wherefore it is that you love not the Scripture even because it restifies against you For he that doth evil hateth the light and cometh not to the light lest his deeds should be reproved John 3.16 20. As to the word Heresie for your mistakes call upon me to open it a little if we look at the notation of it from 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 capio eligo so it signifies any thing of choice or option as Galen 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the Methodical and the Empirical way of Physick when applyed to matters of Religion it imports in the largest signification any Sect or way of Religion that a man makes choice of whether true or false So the Sect 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 of the Sadduces Acts 5.17 the Sect of the Pharisees Acts 15.5 called the most exquisite Sect of our Religion Acts 26.5 the Sect of the Nazarens Acts 24.5 the word is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Herefie in all these places But it is frequently restrained by a Synecdothe to signifie a false Religion as some other words ex gr Tyrannus magnus c. which are commonly taken in deteriorem partem Thus Epiphanius seemeth to take it in his Book of Eighty Heresies where he numbers Barbarism Seythism Stoicism Platonism c. amongst Heresies But it is commonly restrained yet more by a further Synecdoche to such Errors as overthrow the Foundation and are obstinately maintained against Conviction by persons pretending in part to the True Religion and so we do not call Pagans Hereticks but Infidels This sense of the word seems to be grounded on 1 Cor. 3.10 11. and 2 Pet. 2.1 and Titus 3.10 11. where the Apostles do distinguish of Doctrines comparing some to Hay and Stubble yet retaining the true foundation But there is another sort which they call damnable Heresies or Heresies of perdition Soul-destroying Heresies the Assertors whereof are subverted or overturned 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 from off the true foundation and self-condemned 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 as sinning against their own light Now the written Word of God being the onely Rule of True Religion hence nothing ought to be rejected under the Notion of Heresie but what the Scripture doth
Witnesses to this truth It was also in my thoughts to have noted something out of your own Writers concerning the Popish Circle I mean the maze of unbelief wherein they run round to prove the Scripture by the Church and the Church back again by the Scripture Like men drunk and giddy with the cup of the Wine of Astonishment and with the spirit of Delusion it being just with God to smite them with a vertiginous distemper of mind that they shall never come to any consistence to any settlement in the Faith who will not settle upon the true foundation and acquiesce in the Scriptures of Truth For as the fire devoureth the stubble and the flame consumeth the chaffe so their root shall be as rottenness and their blossome shall go up as dust because they have cast away the law of the Lord of Hosts and despised the word of the holy One of Israel Isa 5.24 And finally seeing you call so much for Humane Testimonies I had thought to have offered some which I think you will blush to read out of your own Writers concerning the Veneration you give to your Popes your Representative Christs and Vice-gods and yet withall concerning the hideous prophaneness of their Lives and their Errability yea their actual erring Errors damnably and fundamentally destructive of the Faith and all this out of your own approved Authors out of whom I have observed and collected a few things but these few are too many to be here inserted The Subject is so copious that it requires an intire Tractate by it self therefore must be deferred till some other occasion do present And in the mean time so long as Gregories praecursor Antichristi and so long as Bellarmines Tulissimum est remains upon Record among men you may shut your mouths and cease your boastings of Humane Testimonies I Have now according to the measure of Light and Grace received returned you an Answer to your Paper somewhat largely I confess being desired to answer it to the full but yet as briefly as I could yea omitting many things which might have been both truly and pertinently spoken I find that it hath been answered twice before by more Learned pens which as it renders this Labour of mine less necessary and which I think might have been spared had you not called with such renewed importunities for an Answer so it renders you the more without excuse for that now you have the Truth against one opposition confirmed to you in the mouth of Three Witnesses First by Mr. Baxter in his Key for Catholicks printed Anno 1659 who received a great part of this your paper in a Manuscript sent from Wolverhampton to Sturbridge and hath inserted it and confuted it in his Book before mentioned page 244. It hath been answered a second time by Dr. Owen in his Animadversions on Fiat Lux Cap. 2. page 59 c. and in his Vindication of his Animadversions Cap. 4. page 48. deinceps And yet now after two Answers in print you send the same words again such is the penury of your cause in a Manuscript to a person of Honour in this Kingdom of Ireland with a challenge to our Divines to answer it which hath produced and drawn forth this third Answer to it besides all that hath been written in former times as also of late by Dr. Stillingfleete Mr. Poole and others though not to this individual paper but upon occasion of other oppositions yet in defence of the same general Truth and Cause of Christ against Popery O that He who alone is able would vouchsafe to bless both those former and these present endeavours so as to undeceive and open your eyes and convince you by his Spirit of the Vanity of Vanities that is in these pretensions of Supremacy Inerrability and Indefectibility in your Church and Pope The Lord awaken you out of these golden Dreams before it be too late Yea I do believe through grace and am persuaded That he will yet do it by one means or other for such of you as do belong to the election of his grace The same free and sovereign grace that did pity that did undeceive and convince and conquer Paul when in his full career of blind Zeal and opposition is able to convince and over-power you Father forgive them for they know not what they do Now the Lord in mercy do it That your Faith may not stand hereafter in the wisdom of men but in the power of God CHAP. VIII An APPENDIX for the further Illustration of some things which are but briefly hinted in the former Chapters IN Cap. 2. of Apostasie and again in Cap. 3. of Heresie mention is made of counsel given by Papists to the Pope A Friend to whom the Answer was communicated in Manuscript made some Inquiry about it to whom a further Account was sent which because the same Inquiries are not unlikely to arise in the studious Readers mind is thought fit to be communicated I find there were two papers of Advice presented to the Pope in those dayes about the time of the Council of Trent for the help and support of the then declining Church of Rome both which give pregnant evidence against her of her corruption and departure from Apostolical and primitive purity The first to Pope Paul the Third in the Year 1538. by Nine select Cardinals and Prelates viz. Cardinal Contarenus Cardinal Peter Theatinus afterwards Pope Paul the Fourth Cardinal Sadolet Cardinal Reginald Poole of England c. The Title is Consilium Delectorum Cardinalium Praelatorum de emendanda Ecclesia This Novem-virale Concilium was sent by Nicholaus Cardinalis Capulanus to a Prince in Germany by whom it came to the hands of Luther and Sturmius and by their means was made publick It is mentioned and quoted by Espensaeus a Popish Bishop a Sorbenist in his Commentaries on Titus 1. It was extant in the Book of the Councils Tom 3. Concil Edit per Crab. Edit Colon 1551. But in all other Editions Pontificiorum furto fraude desideratur saith Mr. Crashaw who Reprinted it London 1609. These men do with something of Ingenuity acknowledge and advise to a Reformation of sundry enormous Abuses and Corruptions in the Church of Rome and they begin wisely and faithfully at the fountain Well-head telling the Pope plainly Principium horum malorum inde suisse quod nonnuili Pontifices tui Praedecessores prurientes auribus ut inquit Apostolus Paulus coacervarunt sibi magistros ad desideria sua non ut ab eis discerent quod facerè deberent Page 2. sed ut eorum studio calliditate inveniretur ratio quâ liceret id quod liberet Ex hoc fonte sancte pater tanquam ex equo Trojano irrupêre in Ecclesiam Dei tot abusus tam gravissimi morbi quibus nune conspicim is eam ad desperationem sere salutis laborasse The beginning of these Eviis say they hath been that some of the Popes your
versionem ad Graecam Hebraicam veritatem exigere examinareque ac Theologiae Antiquis Ecclesiae doctoribus studere caeperunt Unde damna illa quae jam sustinemus Omnia extitere Quare danda erit opera ut studiis istiusmodi valere jussis Scholasticam artem tuum jus Canonicum homines repetant quibus Theologiae studia sepulta pene atque obruta fuisse olim constat Decretalium c meminimus at non item Decreti est enim perniciosus liber authoritatem tuam valde vehementer imminuit Ita enim inquit Canon qui incipit Transferunt 24. Q. 3. Immutant mendacio veritatem qui aliud praedicant quam ab Apostolis acceperunt Hoc plane Lutheranum est axioma Quid enim aliud quotidie inculcant nostri adversarii quam ne latum quidem unguem licere ab his rebus quae Apostolis fuere in usu recedere At quis est ex nostris qui non recedat saepe quotidie Certe vix umbram quandam retinemus in nostris Ecclesiis ejus Doctrinae Disciplinae quae Apostolorum temporibus sieut etiam initio attigimus floruerunt prorsus aliam accersivimus Denique quod inter omnia Consilia quae nos hoc tempore dare possumus Folio penult omnium gravissimum ad extremum reservavimus Oculi hîc aperiendi sunt omnibus nervis aduitendum erit ut quam minimum Evangelii poterit praesertim vulgari lingua in iis legatur civitatibus quae sub tua ditione potestate sunt sufficiatque tantillum illud quod in missa legi solet nec eo amplius cuiquam mortalium legere liceat Quamdiu enim pauculo illo homines contenti fuerunt tamdiu res tuae ex sententia successêre eaedemque in contrarium labi caeperunt ex quo ulterius legi vulgo usurpatum est Hic ille in summa est liber qui praeter caeteros hasce nobis tempestates ac turbines conciliavit quibus prope abrepti sumus Et sane siquis illum diligenter expendat deinde quae in nostris fieri Ecclesiis consueverunt singula ordine contempletur videbit plurimum inter se dissidere hanc doctrinam nostram ab illa prorsus diversam esse ac saepe contrariam etiam Quod simulatque homines intelligant à docto scilicet aliquo adversariorum stimulati non ante clamandi finem faciunt quam rem plane omnem divulgaverint nosque invisos omnibus reddiderint Quare occultandae pauculae illae chartulae sed adhibitâ quâdam cautione dilige●tiâ ne ea res majores nobis turbas ac tumultus excitet This last Paragraph let English ears hear it Last of all say they which we have reserved to the last place as the weightiest of all the counsels that we can give at this time Your eyes are here to be opened You must endeavour with all the power you have that as little as can be of the Gospel be read especially in the vulgar tongue in those Cities which are within your power and jurisdiction but let that little which is wont to be read in the Mass suffice and let it not be lawful for any mortal man to read any more than that For as long as men were content with that little your affairs succeeded according to your hearts desire but they began to decline and go back as soon as it came in use to read more of it This is in sum that Book which above all others hath brought upon us these storms and whirlewinds wherewith we are almost carried away headlong And truly if any man shall diligently weigh that Book and then consider distinctly all those things which are wont to be done in our Churches he will see that they differ very much the one from the other and that this Doctrine of ours is altogether diverse from that yea and oftentimes directly contrary to it Which as soon as men understand being stirred up by some Learned man amongst the Adversaries they make no end of clamoring till they have laid open the whole matter and rendred us odious unto all Wherefore those few sheets of paper must be hid and kept out of sight but with some caution and diligence lest the very doing of this should increase the storm and bring yet greater troubles and tumults upon us This is their advice with other things ejusdem farinae too many to be here Transcribed Ghostly counsel of ghostly Fathers Wherein indeed they state the Controversie between them and us aright namely That their departure from the Scripture and our adherence to it is that which hath begun and bred the Quarrel and made the breach between them and us and the name Protestant arise then instead of trembling at his Word and humbling themselves to reform by that unerring Rule they enter into open Rebellion and Conspiracy against the Rule to suppress it and smother it even in the spiritual Language of those Rebels Who say Psalme 2.3 Let us break their bands asunder and cast away their cords from us For which he that sits in heaven laughs at them and the Lord hath them in derision I find both these counsels mentioned by Pope Paul the 4th and Pope Clement the 8th in their Index librorum prohibitorum published by them in pursuance of the Decrees of the Council of Trent The former in the letter L. under this Title Liber inscriptus Consilium de emendanda Ecclesia And so Pope Paul the 4th prohibits and condemns the Book and Council subscribed by himself when he was Cardinal Peter Theatin As the like change of judgment upon change of interest is commonly observed in Aeneas Sylvius when he came to be Pope Pius the 2d The latter counsel is mentioned in the letter C. under this Italian Title Consiglio d'alicuui Vescovi congregati in Bologna The counsel of certain Bishops met together in Bononia This may suffice as to a further Account of this matter In Cap. 7. of humane Testimonies mention is made of Epiphanius his Testimony against Idolatry and of the freedom of expression used by sundry Romanists concerning him whereof take this further account Epiphanius his words are these Quando venissem ad villam quae dicitur Anablatha Inveni ibi velum pendens in foribus ejusdem Ecclesiae tinctum atque depinctum Epiph. Operae tom 2 Epist ad Johan Hierosol page 317. Edit Petav. 1622. habens imaginem quasi Christi vel sancti cujusdam non enim satis memini cujus imago fuerit Cum ergo hoc vidissem in Ecclesia Christi contra authoritatem Scripturarum hominis pendere imaginem scidi illud magis dedi consilium custodibus ejusdem loci ut pauperem mortuum eo obvolverent efferrent Precor ut Jubeas in Ecclesia Christi ejusmodi vela quae contra Religionem nostram veniunt non appendi As we were going to Bethel saith he when I came to a Village called Anablatha I found there a Vail hanging in the Church-door